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Position Preview: Secondary

CBFSSS/RovCB
Starter Anthony Gildon (6-1, 185, Jr) John Boyett (5-10, 198, So) Eddie Pleasant (5-11, 213, Jr) Talmadge Jackson III (5-10, 188, Sr)
Reserves Cliff Harris (5-11, 180, So) Brian Butterfield (6-0, 183, Sr) Erick Dargan (6-1, 197, Fr) Scott Grady (5-11, 180, So)
  Terrance Mitchell (6-0, 183, Fr) Marvin Johnson (5-11, 210, Sr) Javes Lewis (6-1, 190, Jr) Dior Mathis (5-9, 180, Fr)
  Avery Patterson (5-10, 180, RFr) Marcus Davis (6-1, 185, So) Chad Peppars (5-10, 189, Sr)

 

Where do you start when talking about this year's secondary?  The corner back competition?  John Boyett and how awesome he is at Safety?  Eddie Pleasant's omnipresence and his move to SS/ROV?  Or, the new guys that are going to be pushing the starters and returning guys, like Terrence Mitchell Dior Mathis, or Marcus Davis?  There is too much here for me to even begin to cover what to expect from the secondary this fall.  Instead I'm going to focus on what I think are going to be some of the most intriguing aspects.

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CB Competition

TJ3 is pretty much a lock to be manning one of the corners this fall.  Who is going to be covering the other is still up for debate.  This titillating contest will most likely not be finished once fall camp wraps up and play begins in September.  We could see a number of changes both in the starting line-up as well as during games as Aliotti and Neal try establish who will cover the other side of the field.  The main players in this act are Anthony Gildon, Cliff Harris, Terrence Mitchell, Avery Patterson and don't count out Dior Mathis, Scott Grady or even Javes Lewis.  That's seven different guys who all have a legitimate shot at starting or seeing significant playing time.  You'd have to assume that Lewis, Gildon or Harris have the inside track given the experience they had last year playing the corner, but the new guys in Mitchell, Patterson and Mathis are most definitely not going to sit idly by and let one of them assume that position.

Eddie Pleasant at Safety

At first this move seemed to make sense due to Pleasant's size and the crop of outstanding linebackers that Oregon currently has.  I'll argue that the move was because of way more than that.  Pleasant is easily one of the fastest guys on the team (some say his only competition is from LMJ).  That kind of speed demands space to play in, and moving Pleasant to Safety gives him more space to make plays with his speed.  I also believe that moving Pleasant to Safety will allow Oregon to take the next step in their defensive evolution in using the 3-4 and 3-3-5 defense.  Bringing confusion from the linebacker position gives the QB and O-line another thing to think about at the line of scrimmage.  Bringing confusion from the LBs AND the Safety is damn near impossible to pick up.  The problem is, to bring this type of confusion there will be times when the Safety needs to be near the LOS to bluff blitz and still be able to get back into coverage.  You need someone that is fast; enter Eddie Pleasant (side note: you also need to have another Safety that has great coverage capabilities in case the SS blitzes because you are leaving only 3 guys deep.  Hence, John Boyett's awesomeness).  Don't be surprised to see Eddie playing all over the field both before the play as well as during the play.  He'll line up on slots, deep in a cover 2, at the inside linebacker position as well as the outside linebacker position.  We've joked about Pleasant being everywhere on the field in the past, only this year we'll finally get to see that.

There is way more to discuss when looking at the secondary this coming year, but I'll leave that to the posters.  Here's a poll to get you started.

Go Ducks!

Poll
What are you most interested in about the Ducks Secondary?
John Boyett's coverage abilities
56 votes
Eddie Pleasant moving to safety
250 votes
The new comers this year
34 votes
The corner back competition
84 votes
Other (explain in comments)
2 votes

426 votes | Poll has closed

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I’m just having trouble figuring out why CH13 is in Kelly’s doghouse. All I can figure is that it’s either a grades, attitude, or discipline issue. I think he proved himself on the field last year, and adding 20 pounds in the offseason couldn’t have hurt his cause.

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 17, 2010 12:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Ok, the coaching staff’s doghouse. I just generalized it.

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 17, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is he looking lackadaisical? Without actually being at practice (or in the film room, or classroom or weight room, etc) it’s tough to gauge why he’s not higher on the depth chart.

Plus, the absence of media on what is going on here is somewhat discouraging. I would think that someone would want to dig into why he’s “in the doghouse” more, but I guess there’s one more QB competition question that just HAS to be asked.

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Aug 17, 2010 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who’s going to be the starting QB?

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-T-H-E-N-E-E-D-T-O-I-N-V-I-T-E-T-H-O-S-E-G-U-Y-S"

by JShufelt on Aug 17, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lackadaisical at times, sure.

Seems to not know where the coaches want him on the field at times. They’re always getting at him. He chats it up a lot too with other players. He might be getting bored, or something. I don’t know. Hopefully he pulls it together. Right now he just doesn’t look too applied in practice.

My yoke is heavy.

by qrsouther on Aug 17, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

he looks a little too light on the attitude side for someone who's in the doghouse.

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 17, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the 29

"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA

by Famous Duck on Aug 17, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the 20#s went to his mouth...?

"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA

by Famous Duck on Aug 17, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Boyett is awesome

… I predicted him as the P10 DPOY in the CougCenter poll. But, as you guys point out, I’m usually wrong.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.

by Gekko Mojo on Aug 17, 2010 12:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Oooh, a Husky going with a darkhorse Duck as the defensive player of the year? Scandalous!

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 17, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Personally, I hope you’re right. Boyett is a stud safety and the Aliotti quote the other day of, “if Pleasant isn’t where he’s supposed to be, I’m blaming John Boyett” shows what kind of confidence they have in this kid.

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Aug 17, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Boyett certainly knows how to play.

He’s got the best instincts and tackling form as a safety that I’ve seen since Matthew Harper. Boyett is one of those players that enables the rest of the defense to play loose. He’s exactly what a safety is supposed to be: a safety blanket that helps the other players around him play their game and not worry as much about getting beat or covering every square inch that they’re supposed to. We’re very lucky to have him. He was a breath of fresh air when T.J. Ward went down.

My yoke is heavy.

by qrsouther on Aug 17, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I went with Rahim Moore out of UCLA.

But Boyett flies around all over the field, so he just may have a shot.

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by CaDuck on Aug 17, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's a great video

TJ looked ripped. He must have had a good offseason.

Great, another stud Duck I have to root against in the AFC North… FML. START DIXON!!!!

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Aug 17, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Made Donald Driver his bitch.

by SeattleDucks on Aug 17, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you review the comments on that video?

And we think Husky fans are chippy. I had to take a shower after reading them.

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Aug 19, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

TJ Ward needs to stop Hitting Packers so hard

I feel your pain MattDaddy, if only for one preseason game.

Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!

by trumpetduck on Aug 17, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Normally I am amazed at how much smaller players look in the NFL compared to college,

Not TJ Ward, he look much bigger. He pretty much picked up Donald Driver and decided to smoosh him for the hell of it.

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by CaDuck on Aug 17, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTIII looked bigger too

by echo31 on Aug 17, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

UO=Secondary U

The video was awesome – ouch! NFL Ducks looked good last week.

by duck4ev on Aug 17, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just Wondering

Has dargan been having that good of a camp that hes already ahead of Javes?

by ChiTownDuck16 on Aug 17, 2010 7:46 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah, I'd be surprised by that

Javes was fantastic last year, I’d be shocked if he wasn’t playing a lot.

--Dave

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by David Piper on Aug 17, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dargan got knocked out on the first day of practice.

It looked like a concussion, though I won’t say by any means definitively.

Lewis has been playing a lot. As much or more than last year. He’s in on every nickel package and seems to be a great hybrid safety and corner for our shifting-sands defense.

My yoke is heavy.

by qrsouther on Aug 17, 2010 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

got his ass handed to him on a silver platter by Williams today.

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 17, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my subject line I said Dargan; I meant to say Mathis.

Dargan has looked pretty normalwhelming. Not necessarily standing out.

My yoke is heavy.

by qrsouther on Aug 18, 2010 1:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

um, my reserves weren’t listed in any particular order. Don’t take what I wrote as any type of depth chart outside of possible starters. Unless CK or Aliotti want to consult me on who should be where on the depth chart. Then I have plenty of ideas.

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Aug 17, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cliff Harris for President?

by echo31 on Aug 18, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

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