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Prehm: Dunigan May Leave Oregon Basketball Program

UPDATE:

Prehmmr Another source has now told me Dunigan hasn't made a choice. Safe to say he's on the fence. Sorry for the earlier report.

Maybe he'll come to his senses after all.

Just saw this via Twitter:

Prehmmr I have finally confirmed Junior center Michael Dunigan has decided to leave the Oregon basketball program.

Which comes on the heels of this tweet earlier:

DraftExpress An Israeli newspaper reports that Oregon junior Michael Dunigan is close to signing a 3-year contract with Hapoel Jerusalem

Obviously, this is disappointing, and is further evidence that this year will be about player development and implementation of a new system moreso than about competing for any kind of postseason.  We lose a very talented, if ultimately inconsistent player.  And as for depth......well, we didn't have any depth anyway.

On the bright side, this takes us down to seven juniors on the roster, so that class is slowly breaking up.  Thanks for the roster management, Ernie.

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i think this is a pretty bad move for him. a lot of players go to europe and disappear on the benches playing with guys in their upper 20’s. his family might have needed money. i wish him the best

by jcgoducks on Aug 31, 2010 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't get the rush

His plan had always been (1) get the degree and graduate in 3 years, then (2) play pro ball.

by Ducks73 on Aug 31, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice timing on his part

Prehm also talked about two players who have graduated elsewhere possibly joining the program. I sure hope so as 9 scholarship players and 3 walk-ons is scary.

by Ducks73 on Aug 31, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

yeah

the thought is that former Memphis guard Roburt Sallie will be coming in for his final season.

--Dave

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by David Piper on Aug 31, 2010 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe the NCAA will let him in

unlike masoli

/notbitter

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

yep

its going to take him a few years to really get the Ducks competitive. We just don’t have many horses right now.

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 31, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is anybody still surprised that so many good coaches turned down this job?

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Aug 31, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shouldn’t Tom Izzo have been here by now?

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

but we have a shiny new arena?

--Dave

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by David Piper on Aug 31, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Look at what he's been through since he arrived:

-Bellotti gone without a contract
-Payne gone
-Wilson gone inexplicably
-Crittle and Humphrey gone
-Recruiting highs (Loyd) and lows (Polee)
-Armstead gone and then back again
-Italy trip on
-Italy trip off
-New AD
-Contract issue for Altman and his staff
-and now Dunigan

Good god, Altman’s put out more fires than a downtown Chicago firehouse in less than four months. This program was in SHAMBLES!!

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Aug 31, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Chip Kelly has lost control of… you know…

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Aug 31, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

was in shambles?

or is?

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 31, 2010 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The foundation was in shambles. This fucking thing is getting torn down to the studs and rebuilt again. This will not be fixed in a couple of years. He’s going to need a couple of years just to break this thing down to it’s core to rebuild again.

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Aug 31, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

You say contract issues

Do you mean what Bachman has reported in terms of not having a signed contract? or something else?

I wonder how many times a day he wishes he had stayed at Creighton?

by Ducks73 on Aug 31, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure if it was Bachman or not. But it was reported that he and his staff have been working without a formal contract, only a binding agreement right now.

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Aug 31, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was Bachman

I had hoped that all contracts had been finalized and signed.

by Ducks73 on Aug 31, 2010 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sorry but this is just really strange.

Why now? Is the money he’s going to make between now and April next year going to be that much greater or more necessary then what he would get by looking at going pro? And why give up on your degree? And finally, where’s the press been on this whole thing? I’d half expect to see a tweet that says, “Saw Dunigan getting on a plane to Israel. Heard he likes the dates there.”

This is just weird, all the way around. Hell the entire off season for the men’s team has been weird. Altman’s been doing damage control from day one.

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Aug 31, 2010 3:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Please tell me you’re kidding.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve learned not to trust you nor Quinn’s opinion on food…

But he’s right. Dates are sofa king tasty.

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Aug 31, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

No…just, no. They are awful.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’ve just never had a good one.

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Aug 31, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pro-date also.

Pro-fig.
In general, pro-Middle Eastern food.

axemen23: the human vuvuzela

by HoodRiverDuck on Aug 31, 2010 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

falafel=god

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is a strange religion you have there.

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Aug 31, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like hummus. I like most middle eastern food.

Just not dates. Dates and cantaloupe are the only two fruits that I won’t eat.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2010 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

No cantaloupe?!?!

Wow…

I… just…

Wow…

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Aug 31, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

cantaloupe is fantastic

--Dave

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by David Piper on Aug 31, 2010 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, if you like slightly-salty tasting watery flesh.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should try eating it when it’s ripe. Or without the rind.

by grimc on Aug 31, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve done both, and I still find it unappetizing.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

As do I.

I don't deal in hyperbole.

by JConant on Aug 31, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t like canteloupe either. Honeydew is fantastic though.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Aug 31, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

True that

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by CaDuck on Aug 31, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

(slightly)salty tasting?

What on earth have you been eating?

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Aug 31, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have no idea what he's been eating

but there’s a half a cantaloupe in my fridge right now, and it is quite delicious.

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it’s so delicious why is it sitting in your fridge uneaten?

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Aug 31, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe he’s confusing cantaloupe with smoked salmon.

by grimc on Aug 31, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honeydew is leaps and bounds better than cantaloupe.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2010 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their taste is about as similar as blueberries and strawberries.

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Aug 31, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's so weird.

Maybe something’s off with my taste sensors. I’ve always found them to taste almost exactly alike, to the point of calling them interchangeable, for me.

Really though, that’s weird that everyone else here sees a major difference but I don’t.

My yoke is heavy.

by qrsouther on Aug 31, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

they really are different

both in taste and texture.

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, extremely different. I love honeydew (good honeydew, anyway, and it’s very easy for honeydew not to be good). I don’t care for canteloupe at all.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Aug 31, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly cannot think of a fruit I dislike. About the grossest looking one is passion fruit, but it tastes decent.

Probably the only one I would ever pass up on is grapefruit, but I’ll still eat those from time to time.

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Aug 31, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It feels about as great as it looks, but it tastes like it smells.

A mild acidic taste. The overall taste is pretty mild, actually. It’s similar to guava.

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Aug 31, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’ve got three guava trees in our backyard. They’re very tasty, especially in smoothies. However, they ripen in about a week and then fall off the tree. When they rot, it smells like 8 people who haven’t taken a shower recently chilling in your backyard smoking pot. It makes me miss Eugene a little bit.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Aug 31, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Looks like Alien Vagina.

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Aug 31, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

My lol for the day!!!

I don't deal in hyperbole.

by JConant on Aug 31, 2010 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alien Vagina is a great band, by the way. Their second album, “Something Smells Like Space Tuna,” is epic.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Aug 31, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that scratch-n-sniff CD cover was a nice touch.

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Aug 31, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Completely agree. And although I wasn’t the biggest fan, “Dark Side of the Poon” was #1 on the ET Top 100 charts for like 85 straight weeks.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Aug 31, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t hold a candle to Spinal Tap’s “Smell The Glove.”

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Aug 31, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love grapefruit. I love all citrus fruits.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

How much if this is on Kent, and how much on Altman? I know he took over a team in flux, but I didn’t think ALL our players would split. Who do we have left?

by JonathanPDX on Aug 31, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only 5 in what once was a huge class

Seniors: Catron and Longmire
Juniors: Sim, Williams, Jacob, Armstead, and Nared
Sophomore: Singler
Freshman: Loyd

Three walk-ons: Fearn (hurt), Eloirraga (hurt) and Westhead’s grandson

by Ducks73 on Aug 31, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe we can convince the Pac-12 to move to a 3-on-3 tournament.

by JonathanPDX on Aug 31, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's what I don't get . . . the timing of it all

Last year at the OCOP luncheon in PDX, EK said they had resculpted Dunigan’s body and that he’d be a force in the Pac-10 . . . only he was hurt off and on and wasn’t much of a force. Maybe he doesn’t want to risk an injury this year. Maybe he was offered more money than he thought he’d get next spring. Maybe he hates the new coaching staff. This is really is strange timing.

by Ducks73 on Aug 31, 2010 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it me or have the last two big recruiting classes Ernie got Dunigan’s class and Hairston’s class failed big time towards expectations? To be fair though to Hairston’s class they didn’t do bad but a lot of people view them as a failure due to Hairston’s comments right before he arrived.

by The Legend on Aug 31, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

The program could REALLY use some good news

Sure hope the staff can get some name signees in the early period.

by Ducks73 on Aug 31, 2010 3:35 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Depressing.

Get to work Altman.

The game was delayed for over 15 minutes with 5:07 left in the second quarter after France's Nicolas Batum, who plays for the Portland Trail Blazers, dunked and twisted the rim. Officials scrambled to put a new rim on the basket and reattach a net.

by 420Phenom on Aug 31, 2010 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Sonuva....

Who’s ready for an o-fer the Pac 10?

Hopefully Altman can bring some one, any one in for this season or we’re one or two injuries away from forfeits.

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by Przy on Aug 31, 2010 3:46 PM PDT reply actions  

could be worse

could be the WAC or MWC right now.

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I really have no interest in basketball right now.

Maybe we go all OSU and hold tryouts.

I don't deal in hyperbole.

by JConant on Aug 31, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn't Tennessee basically do the same thing after a bunch of guys got arrested last year

then go beat Kansas?

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, Tennessee still had tons of talent.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure axemen23 and TennesseeQuackAttack8 would hold hands in the hallways if they went to the same high school. Oh, they say they wouldn’t, but I always see them together.

I don't deal in hyperbole.

by JConant on Aug 31, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty sure this wouldn’t happen. I post out of anger when I see him post.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2010 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

still hope?
Prehmmr Another source has now told me Dunigan hasn’t made a choice. Safe to say he’s on the fence. Sorry for the earlier report.

by runfast on Aug 31, 2010 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, this is one of those moments.

I don't deal in hyperbole.

by JConant on Aug 31, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Aug 31, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t want to be the Prehm defender, but he reported it, as did so many other outlets… Now they are all backtracking.

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 1, 2010 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

yay for meaningful discussions that turn out to be meaningless!

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

fruits are always relevant at ATQ

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Aug 31, 2010 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sir!

That is a horrible and undeserved insult for the fabulous Rowdy Roddy Piper!

ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave, benzduck and Matt Daddy fan

by daisyduck on Sep 1, 2010 8:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

he should be quiet

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

we all know 2 wrongs make a right

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by webfoot73 on Aug 31, 2010 10:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure sometimes thats true...

but 3 rights always make a left.

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Aug 31, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just saw this tweet pop up on my TweetDeck
RT @Jane: I’m done with Sergio.

My yoke is heavy.

by qrsouther on Aug 31, 2010 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I heard he treats her like a rag doll.

I don't deal in hyperbole.

by JConant on Aug 31, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Thanks for the roster management Ernie"

That is a really classless line. Say what you want about Ernie’s tenure at Oregon, but he took a nothing program, repeat nothing program, and turned it into something and gave us fantastic memories. Under his tenure, it became something that donors were willing to believe in and they accordingly put up 200 million dollars for a state-of-the art arena that he never got to coach in, but that all of us now get to enjoy. When you lay a line on Ernie like that now you are biting the hand that fed you and ripping Oregon’s most successful basketball coach. A coach you no longer have any reason to bag on but rather let live in Oregon glory because you have what you wanted, and he is now gone.

This was not Ernie’s fault, and it is certainly is not Altman’s fault beyond not being able to heal whatever wounds these kids feel. This is a gigantic administrative failure and cluster ^&#$^. I’ve said it before, and I will say it again, the timing of Ernie Kent’s firing was absolutely horrendous, and for so many practical reasons it should have been done, if mediocrity followed us into next year, next year.

Yes if you get Tom Izzo or Jamie Dixon the stadium stays full, the kids don’t defect, and the recruits would have been flying in. This program has had modest to good success because and only because of Ernie Kent’s ability to get players to come here and coach a reasonably successful if not fatally flawed scheme. The administration then in turn ousted him thinking that a premier coach would just step right in. It was pathetic and an incredible gamble for a program in a precarious situation. Repeat, it was an administrative failure.

May I suggest that we stop bagging on Kent? You got what you wanted, he’s gone. Now you are going to continue to kick him in his grave? That is classless. A fundamentally better coach is now here. Let’s see if he can bring the talent in the doors like Ernie did, and if he can’t, let’s see if his improved coaching makes up for a talent deficiency. It is time to respect the man that turned Oregon basketball into at least something of a brand. He is and remains the most winning and successful coach in Oregon basketball history.

The good news, Altman could change that and become a bigger winner after these now apparent rebuilding years he is going to have to endure. He still probably has talent on the roster close to on par with what he had at Creighton albeit in a much tougher conference and with some serious holes now.

by Duckity_Duck on Aug 31, 2010 5:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not going to get into this with you again

we’ve been around and around with this…………..

I supported Ernie a lot, more than most others over his tenure. We have publicly thanked Ernie a lot for what he has done here. If you want to throw us in with the Ernie hating crowd, you’re barking up the wrong tree. I hold no illusions that we would never be good with him again, nor that with him gone we will suddenly be UNC. Those are both ludicrious thoughts.

Its not his fault that so many guys have left, but it is his fault that at one point we had nine players in the junior class. Thats a serious roster management failure, and one that this program will take at least three years to recover from. Its not a classless line. Its reality.

I will have nothing further to say on this, as trying to debate with with you will turn out to be a waste of my time.

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 31, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Talk about signature mismanagement

Who the hell is this “Dave” guy? Bring back Addicted To Quack!

by JonathanPDX on Aug 31, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was not asking you for a debate...

nor did I want one. “Thanks for the roster management” certainly is not “thank you for what you’ve done.”

I’d had other points to my post which was that all is not lost. Altman can turn this thing around if he and the fans have the patience. If the roster had stayed intact I think he could have been successful immeadietly, but given the precarious situation he and we as fans have been put in by the administration it is going to take a while.

As for implying that discussing something with me is a waste of your time I don’t appreciate that. That also is classless.

by Duckity_Duck on Aug 31, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d had other points to my post which was that all is not lost. Altman can turn this thing around if he and the fans have the patience. If the roster had stayed intact I think he could have been successful immeadietly, but given the precarious situation he and we as fans have been put in by the administration it is going to take a while.

Absolutely agree with you about that. Its going to take some time, but it can be done. Fans and administration would do well to be patient.

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 31, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I also realize my wording wasn't the best

didn’t mean to imply that you were a waste of my time, I just don’t want this to end in the same argument that we’ve already had a number of times on this site. Its like two immovable objects that aren’t going to budge.

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 31, 2010 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I appreciate that...

and you will be recieving a ten foot golden Ernie Kent statue/garden fountain in the mail for all your good deeds and dedication to a blog I love called “Addicted to Quack.”

by Duckity_Duck on Aug 31, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I knew this comment would come with that final Ernie line in the original post.
A coach you no longer have any reason to bag on but rather let live in Oregon glory because you have what you wanted, and he is now gone.

I actually agree with this, Duckity_Duck. I thought it came pretty much out of nowhere in the original post. It wasn’t a helpful line and the way I’ve always felt about that ‘08 class remains the same: Ernie got a ton of talent in that class. The most talent he’d gotten in a few years, for sure. It’s not like he chose to get the whole enchilada one year and chilaquiles the next. I’m all for spacing out classes to not have drop-offs come their senior year, but I think it was pretty unavoidable for Ernie. He got a load of talent in ’08, and we should be happy about that.

The main point is that we need to stop mentioning Ernie every time something happens in or to our basketball team.

My yoke is heavy.

by qrsouther on Aug 31, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes while...

I always thought the scholarship managing was questionable you just never know what goes on behind the scenes…. and if your gut says you have a load of studs coming in do you tell them no deferring to your three to five recruits a year max philosophy? Who knows.

I agree about letting it go. I certainly have overdone my point on Ernie, but I am happy to just talk about him in historical context now as the most winning coach in Oregon basketball history. I keep hearing the word rebuild… If we lose Dunigan it may very well be the case that a rebuilding process is necessary, but I still hope and prefer to think of it as building off of…. we’ll see…

by Duckity_Duck on Aug 31, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

The main point is that we need to stop mentioning Ernie every time something happens in or to our basketball team.

I’ll buy that. That said, while he did get talent in that class, you can’t be in a position to have that many people in one class. The issue wasn’t the ’08 class per se, as it was that he added a bunch of JUCO transfers to the class the next year. Hard to fault him for that I suppose, as he needed to win to keep his job, and Armstead and Jacob were two of the better players on the team that season.

I disagree with you about it being unavoidable, though. It was a recurring problem, and what ultimately proved to be his downfall. I wear my emotions on my sleeve quite a bit in case you haven’t already been able to tell, and its immensely frustrating to me that we’ll still be dealing with Ernie’s critical error at least two years after he’s gone. You’re right in that it does me no good to keep bitching about it.

Nor is this mess all Ernie’s fault. Its not his fault that tons of guys left after he got fired. Its not his fault that the administration waited too long to make a new hire and didn’t allow time for a decent recruitng class. It does suck to be in this position.

The line was a voice of my frustration that we are still dealing with this. Its not meant to be a slight to EK’s accomplishment’s at this school. Perhaps it makes me sound ungrateful, and that its best we just move on.

--Dave

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by David Piper on Aug 31, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

FIRE DANA ALTMAN!

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 1, 2010 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

FIRE CHIP KELLY!

am I doing this wrong?

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Sep 1, 2010 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

.

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack

by Matt Daddy on Sep 1, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

you rang?

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Sep 1, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

“Oh Jesus Chriss…” seems to be his catch phrase.

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Sep 1, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

and by the way...

after reading my post again… I’m sorry. While the first line about the roster management was directed at “you” the rest of the post was not, and it sounds like it is. My apologies.

by Duckity_Duck on Aug 31, 2010 6:10 PM PDT reply actions  

He went for the $

Can’t blame him really…

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Aug 31, 2010 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't you think the money would have been there next year

and maybe more if he’d had a good year . . . and no offense to the Jerusalem, maybe he’d get a better place to play.

by Ducks73 on Aug 31, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oregon

Welcome to the Washington State of Basketball, yikes..

by duckyou on Aug 31, 2010 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

yep

its that bad.

--Dave

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by David Piper on Aug 31, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

At least we’re not drawing parallels to Oregon State’s women’s basketball program. Yet.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2010 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brian Fish...

By the way… I saw a random post about Brian Fish earlier…

I rarely eat fast food, but there is this older fellow at my work who is an absolute Iowa farm boy at heart. He is a real meat and potato guy. All he will eat daily is some variety of the cheapest McDouble, Wendy’s cheeseburger dollar deal, or whatever dollar value menu special with small fries and a small drink the fine establishment offers. Anyway, every blue moon I will go with him to keep him company, and if I do I make it the Wendys on Franklin so I can see the stadium, watch a little espn, and mildly tolerate the food.

The funny thing is, one day I saw a very large man in there with Creighton blue Nikes on and blue jogging pants…. I had the thought that it might be a future assistant coach. The next day I saw that we hired Brian Fish in the Oregonian. I saw the photo in the paper and it was absolutely him. The next time I go there, he is there again. This time he is on his mobile phone talking about a player who “nobody knows where he is” and that he has some “hangers around from down south” that they are worried about since they are so close (Singler?). Anyway, if you ever want to meet Brian Fish, he apparently is in love with Wendys come the lunch hour.

by Duckity_Duck on Aug 31, 2010 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

What’s with the new name? First Cougfan, now Dave? Say it ain’t so.

I feel like I should say something smart.

by Jayon on Sep 1, 2010 12:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I’m changing mine to my last name any day now.

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Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.

by Takimoto on Sep 1, 2010 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Takimoto Rola?

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 1, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

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