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Ask the Enemy: Five Questions with Rocky Top Talk


Whither the coverage of the big game tomorrow, you ask?  The problem with analyzing this game is twofold:  the first being that we played a garbage team in the first game, and the second being that Tennessee did as well, and, to boot, none of us were able to see it.  Therefore, we've enlisted the services of our excellent Tennessee bretheren over at Rocky Top Talk, where Will and Hooper were kind enough to answer some of our questions about the Tennessee football team:

ATQ:  When the national media talks about Derek Dooley, they seem to give the idea that the only thing Tennessee fans care about is that he's not Lane Kiffin.  That aside, what are the general early impressions of Coach Dooley?

Will:  It's true that just about anyone could've come in here and we would've supported him because of who he wasn't.  But I think coaching transitions are often pendulum swings, and Dooley was a move back to the Phillip Fulmer end of the spectrum.  I'm not sure how well this translates out west, but the fact that Dooley is one of us - he talks like us, he's SEC born and bred - certainly made the transition easier.  What he did in two weeks in January in recruiting was really incredible, to keep a class together and to go out and steal four and five star players at the wire.  And in an eventful offseason, even those of us who may have disagreed with his disciplinary actions in the bar fight were quieted by the fact that no charges were ever filed.  So I think he did everything we could've expected from him in the offseason, while not artificially raising expectations with his mouth the way Kiffin did.  So far, so good, and his Nick Saban pedigree makes many of us believe that even if he doesn't win a bunch of games right away, the future of our program is in good hands.

Hooper:  As a general rule, new coaches tend to get hired because they are perceived to have something the previous guy lacked.  Kiffin was picked because Fulmer had become predictable and stale (and I really do mean that as respectfully as I can).  Dooley was picked because Kiffin was a poor cultural fit and his departure left fans wanting somebody who 'related' to the SEC.  Dooley is the archetypical Son of the South: charming, smart, well-spoken, notable bloodlines, and with a strong accent.

We have a couple of years to go before we can fairly judge the on-field stuff.  Like every other 1-0 team in the country right now, everything is sunshine and buttercups.  Things aren't perfect right now (e.g. Will's reference to the Bar Knoxville incident), but things aren't Kiffin.  And that's the standard that matters at the moment.

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ATQ:  Both Oregon and Tennesseee played garbage teams to open the season.  While it can be difficult to yield meaningful observations from such games, what overall positives do you take out of the Tennessee-Martin game?

Will:  No glaring weaknessses presented themselves, which was a relief.  Our defense was very impressive:  fast, fundamentally sound, showed a handful of looks (which we assume are just a small percentage of what's actually in the Wilcox pacakge), and gave us hope that they could carry the burden for the offense.  The new offensive line had a few five yard brain farts, but no holding penalties, no sacks allowed, and we ran the ball at will.  But like you guys, the quality of the opponent means we really don't know anything yet.

Hooper:  I was most pleased to see the organization on the sidelines and in the huddles (both offensive and defensive).  With new coaches, new players, and new schemes, there was never a time when it seemed that the team didn't know what was going on.  Granted, I think the offense ran all of 10 different plays all night long, but at least things went smoothly.  There were only one delay of game and two false start penalties on UT, and no penalties were accepted that were worth more than 5 yards (I don't remember if any 10+ yarders were committed and declined).

ATQ:  On the flip side, what areas do you look at as areas of concern?

Will:  Replacing five starters on the offensive line was probably the number one concern coming in, but this year's line is actually much bigger, and last year we had an effective offense with two walk-ons starting up front, so we'll see how much of an issue that actually turns out to be.  Depth is the biggest deal for us with only 70something scholarship players after all the coaching transition, and it's especially an issue at defensive tackle.  Montori Hughes is a beast.  The other guy who was supposed to start, Marlon Walls, tore his achilles four weeks ago.  None of the backup DTs impressed anyone in fall camp, so the two guys who played the most after Hughes against UT Martin were Gerald Williams (who was playing DE two weeks ago) and Victor Thomas (who was playing center three weeks ago).

Hooper:  Depth.  Our first string is fine, but it's almost like we don't have a second string at the moment.  But also, I worry about mental (not physical) fatigue.  The team is in great physical shape, but if they overthink the game, they'll tire themselves out between the ears.

ATQ:  What are the early thoughts on Matt Simms, especially considering that he'll have to make a few good throws early to open up the run game.

Will:  He was mistake-free, which was key.  His numbers weren't that impressive, and we didn't really try to go downfield much in the passing game.  He saw almost no pressure, and he had a tendency to lock-in on his primary target.  He could get away with all of that against UTM, but probably not on Saturday.  I think he's going to be a solid game manager - smart kid, good pedigree - but it remains to be seen if he's capable of leading this team in the passing game, especially if Oregon takes away the run.

Hooper:  To start with the negatives:  he didn't check down during the UT-Martin game, and he had a tendency to overthrow his receivers.  While the overthrows prevented interceptions (silver lining, that), I have no doubt that Oregon will keep a safety or two deep just to see if they can get some cheap interceptions.  This will be especially true if the running game struggles.

Now the positives:  he managed the game very well and never got confused on the field.  He has more college experience than his lone UT start would indicate, so he does have knowledge to fall back upon.  The players trust him, which really helped execution last week.

ATQ:  What do you see as the general strength of the Volunteer football team overall?

Will:  On the field, it's linebacker - due to a rash of injuries last year, we have six guys with starting experience, plus converted FB Austin Johnson, who was a monster last week as the backup MLB.  That's the only place on the depth chart where we can substitute and lose virtually nothing.  We've got a lot of speed on defense, from DE Chris Walker to the secondary, where our safeties are small but quick, and still very violent.  On offense, though it's still not fair to say because we haven't seen them get a lot of carries against quality competition, we really like the duo of Tauren Poole and David Oku at tailback - that's who Tennessee should depend on to win the game.
 
This is a group of guys that have been beat up in more ways than one in their college careers, and especially early in this season, this is a team with a lot of heart and a lot of fight.  I think there's a very, very strong bond among the players, because they're the only continuity they have in their careers.  We expect to struggle because of depth and inexperience...but we also expect this to be a team that we're proud of, simply because of what they've been through and the way they respond to it.

Hooper:  Overall?  I'll go away from on-field responses and say that the overall strength is their resolve.  Going back to the 2007 season, this team has seen a lot of ugliness:  getting drilled at Florida (2007), losing an SEC championship game against LSU that they should have won (2007), watching the home crowd walk out on them at halftime (Florida, 2008), near-mutiny in the locker room (2008), Fulmer's firing (2008), losing to Wyoming at home (2008), getting drilled by Alabama and South Carolina (2008), and to not rehash old news: Lane Kiffin (2009).  Yet the team never fell apart.  At this point in time, the vast majority of players have more football hardship experience than most college teams.  Honestly, it's more like an NFL squad where anything above a .500 season is a success and you're constantly getting matched up against teams that can beat you.

That doesn't mean they'll win, by any means.  It just means that they'll give the game their best - something that wasn't happening a few years ago.  It's hard to ask for more than that.

 

A big thanks to the folks over a Rocky Top Talk for taking the time to answer our questions, and for the great hospitality they've shown us on their site all week.  I'm sure we're all looking forward to ending the talk and getting to actually play the game tomorrow.

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Good stuff.

But it seems like one of the reasons Dooley was picked was that there wasn’t much time to get somebody else. The Duchess really screwed UT with his timing.

by grimc on Sep 10, 2010 10:25 AM PDT reply actions  

class

  Maybe vol fans and their media are just reeling from off field garbage and are not quite themselves (believe me, all duck fans know that feeling), but I am slowly realizing just how classy a majority of the Rocky Top nation is. As a comparison, the Vol’s friendly give and take is nothing like the low life Sooner experience we all endudred in the past. I had no opinion of Ok football prior to the ducks playing them, but since that game I have garnered no respect for Sooner football and their small minded followers, coach’s, and media. I think I will always respect Volunteers…at least until they give me a reason not too……or, then again, I might be giving them all too much credit. Simply put, they might realize Anatidaeplhobia will be hitting full force when they suit up and do battle. Each creamsicle soldier will look across the line and see nothing but two white slits glaring back at them from deep within the abyss of a dark helmet…..and their knees will buckle. I hope anyway! go ducks

been down so long, it looks like up to me.

by ducky darling on Sep 10, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I agree somewhat.

Both Boise State and the Oklahoma series really tarnished my view of those programs.

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 10, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

on the flipside of that, though

I have very good thoughts of Michigan and Purdue.

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Sep 10, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seconded. Both were classy.

And we won both games in each of those series.

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Sep 10, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Always a factor in whether you're left

with a good feeling about things..

http://tinyurl.com/great-duck-movie

by gamedaytribe on Sep 10, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t dislike BSU after the 1st game in which they beat us. We had the blog bet and they posted that thing about Kellen more being a superhero. I thought that was a pretty cool post to use in a bet like that…but then their members just turned into total asshats. It lasted through that year and then went to another level leading up to and after the Punch game.

My point is that I feel 100% confident that even after losing AND having to read their free front page post on ATQ, I still didn’t think poorly of them. I can say with honesty that losing wasn’t the factor. In fact, I will be interested to see how their fans act when they finally lose. Its coming you know? I hope its the Beavs so I can have a front row seat on BTD to see how their fans respond.

And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!

by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 10, 2010 4:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree

Having had a number interactions with UT fans this week, they have been intelligent, respectful, and engaging when talking about this game. Just like the Purdue series gave me an appreciation for all things Boiler, I now have a great appreciation for the Vols and will definitely be rooting for them the rest of the year in the SEC.

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Sep 10, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to reserve judgement until after the UT game . But I anticipate feeling quite good about the UT program.

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 10, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

When I put myself in their shoes – all the garbage they continue to endure – win, lose or draw I’m going to be rooting for a return to glory for UT football.

I don't deal in hyperbole.

by JConant on Sep 10, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

But does anyone else find it odd that in this short post, good breeding is mentioned twice about 2 different people? I have enjoyed speaking to all the UT fans here, it must just be a cultural thing.

by Andomania on Sep 10, 2010 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who your family is...

tends to be more important in the South. Folks down there want to know who your kin are…

"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"

by M. Fletcher on Sep 10, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

That makes sense

I have just never heard it referred to here so it seemed different, thanks for the explanation.

by Andomania on Sep 10, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was new to me too.

I’m not a native Southerner and an in Knoxville thanks to graduate school. But like Fletcher said, there’s still a strong sense of lineage that comes up every once in a while. (I think it’s due — in part — to the South being a much older part of the country than places like Oregon or Wyoming, where I’m from.)

It’s not so much that coming from a good family guarantees some genetic advantage, but that things like wealth and social status tend to get passed down. If your parents were rich and important, then you’re in line to be rich and important as well (for example).

by David Hooper on Sep 10, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very interesting

It amazes me sometimes how much different some places are; you’re right it probably is that the history there adds value to the way things were in the past, while here the hippies can hardly remember yesterday.

by Andomania on Sep 10, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

My kids have good breeding...

maybe if jobs aren’t around when they grow up, they can be coaches… and I can get a job as their DC.

Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

by webfoot73 on Sep 10, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec'd for "Anatidaephobia"

Life is a sport: Watch other people play it.

by Al Orange on Sep 10, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Non-conference opponents

I wonder if it comes down to wins and losses.

If Oregon defeats its non-conference opponent, then the program and its fans are a real class act! (Michigan, Purdue, Mississippi State, Houston)

If Oregon loses to its non-conference opponent, then the program and its fans are a bunch of arrogant jerks! (Boise State, Oklahoma, Ohio State, even Indiana)

I do enjoy the give-and-take with other fans and bloggers…but I think the outcome of the game directly affects how we feel about the other guy.

by DavisDuck on Sep 10, 2010 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

we "beat" Oklahoma in one of those games

and it was the game we beat them in that made me hate them.

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Sep 10, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

and I also read a lot of positives said about the Ohio State fans too.

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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by Matt Daddy on Sep 10, 2010 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed the time we had with the Ohio State fans.

I also didn’t have a problem with Oklahoma until we beat them.

I never really interacted with Mississippi State fans, or Houston fans.

I don’t like Fresno St. fans.

I’m indifferent with Utah

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 10, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I enjoyed the time we had with the Ohio State fans.

This is true. The tOSU fans we interacted with were pretty cool.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Sep 10, 2010 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

outside of a pair of ignorant hicks I had to listen to during a restroom stop at the Rose Bowl, I was very happy with my experience with tOSU fans.

--Dominic, Addicted to Quack

Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.

by dvieira on Sep 10, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

We had a seriously great time with tOSU fans at the Rose Bowl. They were cool, interested in our program, and only slightly arrogant (just enough so we could laugh at them).

ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave, benzduck and Matt Daddy fan

by daisyduck on Sep 10, 2010 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is true. The tOSU fans we interacted with were pretty cool.

until someone kicked davereg out…

"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy

by axemen23 on Sep 10, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

He liked Coors, or was it Bud?

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 10, 2010 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gorbachav5 (shouting): I put produce in my beer!
MattDaddy (shouting louder): You’re gross! I drink Rainier!
Daisyduck (yelling): That’s disgusting! But Corona’s alright…
Echo31 (bellowing): That’s just wrong! PBR for me!
Davereg (quietly from the corner): I like Bud Light…

(Complete silence. Everyone stares, dumbfounded, at Davereg. He slowly backs away. We never hear from him again.)

Gorbachav5: So where were we? (shouting) PBR is vile! …

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Sep 10, 2010 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Every one of those beers is just wrong.

You all should follow Davereg. Make him feel welcomed, and leave us that love good beer, alone.

As soon as you convince Davereg to come back, you can come back too.

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 10, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

All (in unison): Shufelt forgot the beer!

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Sep 10, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

GAH!

it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"

by JShufelt on Sep 10, 2010 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Old news. Shu’s been solid as a rock with the beer ever since that one fateful Saturday.

I don't deal in hyperbole.

by JConant on Sep 10, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays

Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.

by Takimoto on Sep 11, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

rec’d for making me laugh

by echo31 on Sep 10, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

My favorite turnaround with a fan base...

was with the Colorado fans at the Fiesta Bowl. They were a lot of arrogant pricks before the game, yet strangely, they weren’t anywhere to be seen by the third quarter. :)

"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"

by M. Fletcher on Sep 10, 2010 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

We've really appreciated your presence on our site this week

and any and all respect is mutual, and I really believe you’ll find the same from the vast majority at Neyland Stadium; I enjoyed seeing some Oregon fans out on the golf course in East TN this morning. Saturday should be an enlightening experience for all of us.

by Will Shelton on Sep 10, 2010 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Good Blog, Will!

Have enjoyed this week reading RTT and looking forward to the game. A lot more depth than a lot of other fans that I’ve at least had experience with. One of the reasons I like ATQ so much (geniuses abound, plus the humor). RTT seems to have much the same vibe. Good luck on the rest of your season after Saturday!

by gamedaytribe on Sep 10, 2010 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

...........
losing an SEC championship game against LSU that they should have won (2007)

by Mikeno on Sep 10, 2010 9:29 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

2007 is a sore subject around here

/sigh.

Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin

by QuackinAK on Sep 10, 2010 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Amen.

As is phrase “should have won.”

by gamedaytribe on Sep 11, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

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