Quack Fix: Men's hoops under investigation, no style points for Kelly, ESPN's conference rankings
by PaulSF on Sep 15, 2010 7:00 AM PDT
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PrintI'm still recovering from my trip to Knoxville. And by "recovering," I mean "drying my clothes." Of course, I'm not the only one recovering. It sounds like it might take the folks in Knoxville a little longer to fully get back on their feet. Here's your Wednesday Morning Quack Fix:
- The foggy details around the unexpected departure of Michael Dunigan are starting to clear up after news broke last night that the Oregon men's basketball program has launched an internal investigation into the eligibility of several former players. I'm sure there are many more details to come in the next few days.
- Meanwhile, as the Oregon football team prepares for Saturday's FCS opponent Portland State, head coach Chip Kelly got a number of FCS vs. FBS questions from the media. And of course, in true Chip Kelly fashion, he doesn't believe in style points. Rather than looking to this weekend's matchup, Ken Goe looks back at the impact last week's win at Neyland Stadium could have on the rest of Oregon's season. In other football-related news, Rob Moseley has more notes from Tuesday's practice.
- ESPN.com's Ted Miller talks about the new conference power rankings, which has the Pac-10 ranked fourth behind the SEC, Big Ten and Big 12 through the first two weeks. That seems low, but because the Coaches' Poll played a big role in the rankings, my guess is USC's ineligibility has something to do with the low ranking. But maybe not. Either way, Measuring Stick Saturday gives the conference a chance to climb back up the poll.
- Former Oregon center Max Unger was placed on the injured list by the Seattle Seahawks after suffering a toe injury in Seattle's surprising season-opening win over the San Francisco 49ers on Sunday. The Oregonian also has a breakdown of how other NFL players with Oregon ties performed during Week 1.
- And finally, as I'm sure you heard, Reggie Bush announced he will forfeit his 2005 Heisman Trophy award. This didn't sit well with me. I understand he's being made an example of, but is Bush really the issue? It seems like a bit of a witch hunt to me.
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Patrick Chung just tackled someone
Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?
My name is not Bryce.
by Im Chris Hansen on Sep 15, 2010 7:06 AM PDT reply actions
Pac 10 conference rank
I think 4th is about right. Two of the teams that are supposed to be a big part of the conference’s depth (OSU and UW) lost, although OSU played okay, and the two bottom teams showed that they’re REALLY bottom teams. I think the Pac will look better with a solid performance this weekend.
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I'm not ready to say Kent's program was dirty,
but if it was, couldn’t we at least have cheated well enough to win?
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 15, 2010 8:05 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to be extremely pissed if it turns out Kent knew what was going on...
One of the reasons I’ve defended him as a coach over the years is that he ran a clean program and graduated his kids.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
I was starting to believe...
but Chip Kelly reminded me that Portland State is our National Championship game. Now I’m focused on the Vikings.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
I hate myself for even entertaining thoughts of it.
Time to start cutting I guess.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 15, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not a believer yet.
Talk to me after the Stanford game.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Chip "take a knee" Kelly style points
Notice a trend (ok, two games) that we get up by 5-8 TDs and the last drive is long and time consuming to retain last possession so we can take a knee… hope this trend continues.
One thing I have not heard from the commentators is how UO has not gone for max points (thus rankings) in either game.
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
I think thats a given
if we had gone for max points against New Mexico, we’d have broken a hundred. We also would suffer severe backlash for being complete assholes.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
But think of the stats
oooohh the stat we would have. It would take Benz three times as long to do his KJB vs FBS scoreboard every week.
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
Masoli apparently decided on Ole Miss transfer *before* dismissal from Oregon.
OXFORD — Ole Miss quarterback Jeremiah Masoli told the NCAA last month that he decided to transfer from Oregon before it was announced on June 9 that he was dismissed from the team.
So Masoli says he received his release from UO the day before CK kicked him off the team.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
That article was a bit bizarre. What was the exact day that Masoli was pulled over with marijuana. Because the article insinuates that something happened in May, a few weeks before his actual dismissal, but that was right before Kelly headed out to Iraq.
Oh, and I’m sure that Canzano’s gonna have fun with this one.
Twelve days later, he wrote a longer letter in an attempt to explain the timeline of his departure from Oregon. Masoli wrote that Oregon coach Chip Kelly suspended him in March 2010, and that he had the option at that point to transfer to another school. "I realized that other players had been suspended for a season and allowed to play after a few games," Masoli wrote, likely referring to LeGarrette Blount, who was initially suspended for the 2009 season by Kelly but was reinstated by the end of the year. "Therefore in my mind, playing in the 2010 season was still a possibility."
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
"A few" is nine.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 15, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Ugh,
Why won’t Jeremiah Masoli just fade off into the distance forever already? It sounds to me like he is just a little on the bitter side about his dismissal.
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
hmmmm loosing to Jacksonville State, or putting the beat down of the century on Tennessee at Neyland?
Yeah, I would be bitter.
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
But the Rebel fans *love* him!
Or at least they try..
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Was that supposed to look like this?
But Rebel fans *love* him!
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Is it time to say, "Fuck you, Masoli"?
Seriously. What is the point of brining this up? I was perfectly fine with my 2009 Rose Bowl memories, wishing him the best and good luck on straightening out your life, but this just pushed me over the edge. You are on a new team in a new conference that won’t come close to playing the Ducks this year and he still has to drag this out more. Go back to going 4/16 for 38 yards, asshat.
by SeattleDucks on Sep 15, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
For what it’s worth, I don’t think he wanted this coming up – the Clarion-Ledger asked for the documents, under Mississippi law, in order to make them public, and that’s where the details about the timeline come out.
Although it does piss me off if he did indeed lie about it, just to make it sound like he didn’t decide to transfer only after he got the boot (and really, why would Oregon lie about the timeline here?).
The C-L took pains to point out that the player name was “redacted”. Wink wink nudge nudge. As if it could be anyone else.
Maybe he didn’t think this would ever become public (he’s naive), or that anyone would question his version of the timeline (favorable spin, and I think we can assume he’s been coached what with the PR website and all))
All I can say for sure is that Oregon had absolutely no motivation to invent a timeline in this situation. At least none that I can think of. And Masoli had every motivation to assemble the most plausible argument possible.
Self-centered bordering on narcissistic if you ask me, and I passed Psych 101. At Oregon!
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
He got booted, that’s for sure. I’m thinking he lied about it to get past the NCAA.
And who knows, maybe he was planning on transferring as soon as he got his degree, but that wasn’t going to be until into the summer a bit. But this is just ridiculous. Like the person that is getting fired and goes, “you can’t fire me! I quit!”
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
If I am reading that graph correctly
His football career actually traveled back in time for a short time there.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Looks like some kind of 'dick' to me
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 15, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Is this drawing of a dick supposed to represent what people think of him, or how he played?
Using the whole fist, Ducks?
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 15, 2010 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Really, neither
It’s for the way he threw it all away, quite frankly.
He played brilliantly, let’s face it. The Arizona game of 09 will remain my best-ever football game, and the Civil War of 09 will remain my happiest Duck memory along with the Harrington Fiesta Bowl. His actions at the end will not erase that. My DVR still has those saved.
The guy who just put his head down on a 4th and 2 and simply steamrolled a Beaver defender upside down looked like a guy with guts and character. For at least the 2009 post-Boise season, I had a very positive opinion of Masoli, and by the time the CW was done, I certainly thought he was worthy of pedestal-fandom.
The annoying, frustrating thing is that he threw it all away in some dumbass moment that belied all of our assumptions about him. Lying to Chip was dick move, and a stupid one. Stupid, stupid, stupid. What a freaking waste.
Exhibit B: stupid, stupid, selfish, stupid Reggie Bush. A week where his school is stripping its campus of everything Reggie Bush, and the repercussions are really sinking in. No legacy, no tradition, no hallowed ground any more. Dick move, Reggie. Stupid, stupid, dick move.
by gamedaytribe on Sep 15, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So it's a diagram of Reggie Bush's "dick move" then. Got it.
Using the whole fist, Ducks?
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 15, 2010 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I always thought he was a pervert.
Or according to the parallel “he who smelt it, dealt it” theory, the pervert is me.
Using the whole fist, Ducks?
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 15, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, we need an animated version. Is this blog PG rated?
by gamedaytribe on Sep 15, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It has been my observation
that this blog is PG13 on most days, and R on the really good days.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 15, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
He probably had to say this to get his transfer exception from the NCAA.
I.e. “I decided to transfer before I got booted, therefore the transfer was not an attempt to circumvent the booting.” Probably BS but he had good reason to BS.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
Actually, some of that was required
He did at least have to show:
- he wanted to enroll in a program that offers some major which is not offered in his current school
- he’s eligible to play
I may be wrong about the details of the second (I know he has to have eligibility left as usual, but not sure where being suspended falls). The immediate-play transfer exception is to allow grad students to enroll elsewhere for their academics and continue to play athletics and not be penalized by the competitive NCAA rules.
There’s no question regardless of timeline he was exploiting a rule exception not intended for his case (i.e., he was at least violating the spirit of the rule exception, unless he genuinely wants to study something offered at Ole Miss and not offered at Oregon. His own comments about having lost a desire to be at UoO seems to undermine that).
by gamedaytribe on Sep 15, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
If going after Bush's Heisman is a witch hunt
then Bush is a real, live witch.
Also, his statement cracked me up:
“I find solace in knowing that the award was made possible by the support and love of so many," Bush said. "Those are gifts that can never be taken away."
Yeah, it’d be kind of hard to go back in time and take away the rent payments and SUV.
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Good article on Cliff Harris from the Statesmen Journal. Yes, I read everything written about him, why do you ask?
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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My favorite part of this play
is the fact that after he breaks up the pass he looks pissed that he didn’t intercept the ball. It wasn’t good enough that he just made a freakishly athletic play, he wants to pick everything thrown his way.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
Wow. What a freaking incredible, amazing, holy mother of god moment captured perfectly!
Wow. Wow. We need a nickname for this guy. LIKE NOW. Something that will convey the electricity and excitement he generates. Something worth! Help me out here, guys…
by gamedaytribe on Sep 15, 2010 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
CH13
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
by JShufelt on Sep 15, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cliffhanger?
Because he has good hangtime? ….anyone? ….anyone?
Lajackson: Shattering ankle bones since the invention of the ankle.
by jxbarr on Sep 15, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's about as catchy as Jaison Williams.
Ha ha
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm a 'rec'n that dude.
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 15, 2010 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Unger done for the year
Sucks, injury to one of his toes, and he is now on the season-ending IR.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
And he finished the game!
Happened early and he played out the game.
by Brian Floyd on Sep 15, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
ESPN says TN has a shot this weekend vs. FL
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncf/insider/columns/story?columnist=joyner_kc&id=5572348
One of the keys to Bear Bryant’s success was that he always had a plan for how to go about winning a game. For the most part, that plan involved stockpiling a larger amount of faster, tougher, stronger players than his opponents, but he knew that, great recruiting notwithstanding, there were going to be times when he would face a matchup in which his team was outmanned.
In those cases, Bryant’s philosophy was simple. He figured if the other team rated out as a 100 on a 100-point scale and his team graded out as an 80, all he needed to do was get his squad to play 15 points above its talent level and find a way to get the opponent to play 15 points below its level.
The problem with that mindset is that only one-half of the equation is really under a team’s control. If the 80-point team holds up its end of the bargain and plays 15 points above its potential but the 100-point team performs as well as it is capable, the 100-point team probably still wins the contest.
Tennessee Volunteers coach Derek Dooley is very much in that situation in this weekend’s tilt against the Florida Gators. His team has played well at times during its first two games (it did go toe-to-toe with an explosive Oregon Ducks squad for a half), so there is a chance he could get them to hold up their 15-point end of that bargain.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
So long as Tennessee’s playmaker Mike Pouncey keeps playing for Florida, Tennessee has a good shot at winning this thing.
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
And they are able to score in the first half
Florida has been, to be charitable, horrible on offense in the first half of both games.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Sure they have a chance.
Football games have a large random element, duh.
by AllSaintsDay on Sep 15, 2010 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I know right
If you are playing a better team than you. You have to play better than normal and they have to play worse than normal. Then you might win.
There. Done.
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
How long before someone makes a Pac-10 coaches arobics video? I’m sure you could photoshop Richard Simmons onto the sideline.
And hop, and hop, now two, and hop, now everybody FALL DOWN! That’s right, get up, give the F-U to Mike Bellotti. Now throw your headset on the ground, run over to the ref, burn those calories people!
http://twitter.com/lawlornfl/status/24239721317
http://twitter.com/lawlornfl/status/24248858962
I found these two tweets funny by a guy that does stuff for the draft.
That first tweet is exactly why people dislike the SEC.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Yeah 100% agree. I remember when it looked like it was going to be a 16 team conference instead of a 12 team and somebody said with the additions of Texas and Oklahoma that the Pac-16 would probably be the best conference. Then Kirk Herbstreit interupted and flexed his muscles and said nobody will be better then the SEC and I just shook my head.
Paul Myerberg talks about the Ducks fulfilling expectations...
Let’s preface any remarks by stating that yes, the season is only two weeks old. So, through two weeks: Oregon has been everything we thought they’d be. The Ducks have been dominant, once against a horrifically-coached New Mexico team and once in one of the nation’s most hostile environments. Again, through two weeks, the Ducks are clearly the best team in the nation’s most competitive conference.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
He lost me at
Any problems with that claim? Not with the claim that the Pac-10 is the nation’s most competitive league; this should be beyond a doubt. U.C.L.A. has been terrible, which hurts, but the conference continues to put forth seven teams capable of earning a Rose Bowl berth: Oregon, U.S.C., Arizona, California, Oregon State, Stanford and Washington.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 15, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, he then talked about Virginia being a “resume-building win” for USC. Resume-building? Do they really need a resume for intramural flag football?
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Myerberg’s never recovered from the New York Times decision to stop covering college football on a regular basis, which means he doesn’t get into print. They don’t even give him blog space. All he gets is a link. I’d be bitter too, but i’d try not to suck at what they fired me for.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Ducks in the NFL
God i hope some of the new guys turn into some nfl stars it makes watching the nfl so much better for me!Its like a proud parent watching their giant monster kids go hit the shit out of people.
Why the f*** was it between that and Muhammad!?!
It's tough to say how many of this season's seniors will get drafted
Definitely drafted, Bair, Matthews, Rowe, Paysinger, Holmes
Maybe drafted, Maehl,
Probably not drafted, TJ3, Clark
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
I think Maehl is going to make a name for himself this year. He won’t be known as a freakish athlete, but probably a great inside possession guy who is reliable on third down.
I'm sure that he will get a shot with an NFL team,
There is no way that someone does not take a shot with him as an UDFA (assuming he isnt drafted)
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Mike Haas was better than Maehl and he couldn’t get a shot in the NFL even though he won the Biletnikoff Award in 2005. As much as it sucks, I doubt Maehl gets much of a chance.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 15, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions
He got a shot.
6th round draft pick, if I recall correctly. Signed with a few different teams. I think he made a roster or two.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
He was on the Seahawks practice squad with Jordan Kent and got cut several times. My point is that he won the Biletnikoff Award and still barely got drafted or got a chance as an AP first team All American while catching 90 passes for 1500+ yards as a Senior.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 15, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I misinterpreted what you meant, I suppose.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll clarify...
Because of his physical dimensions, the NFL-types most likely won’t want to spend a draft pick on him, even though he’s productive in college. He’ll most likely have to go the UDFA route. Then he’ll work his ass off and end up looking like the best player in the pre-season, like Nick Reed, only to end up on the practice squad so some guy like Darius Haywerd-Bey can “play”…and by “play” I mean run really fast all over the field and drop 50% of the passes that hit him in the hands. This is why I like college football way more than the NFL.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 15, 2010 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I thought you were saying that he wasn't going to get any shot.
Which he will. But now I see what you meant.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t see Maehl getting drafted.
He isn’t NFL speed. He isn’t NFL size. He doesn’t leap like an NFL receiver. He has decent hands, and he is okay at route running, even though he isn’t very strong with them.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Nor do I,
I still think that he gets an opportunity as an UDFA though. There is no reason not to take a chance on a player if they are not drafted.
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Unless they're Jonathan Crompton or something.
Oh wait…
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
At least he made the practice squad!
Well, the Chargers are only carrying two QB’s on the roster right now. He couldn’t actually win the 3rd QB/designated clipboard holder spot that was essentially handed to him.
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On a tangent..
Wow, can’t believe how bad Rivers was on that last set of downs in the red zone on Monday night.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Everything was terrible about that game.
The Chargers couldn’t even get snaps off in time. Rivers couldn’t communicate with Nick Hardwick to save his soul. The coaches really looked like they didn’t get this Chargers team ready. It is unacceptable to lose a game against a team whose QB threw for around 60 yards. Don’t even get me started on how poorly prepared the Special Teams unit looked.
Typical Chargers incompetency early in the year. Ugh
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Jamaal Charles looked good, though.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with the sentiment that he’ll get a chance as an UDFA, but the chances that he makes it are very, very slim. Look at Nick Reed for a similar situation. Extremely productive, but couldn’t get on the field because he didn’t have the physical dimensions. I hate how the NFL does that, but they do it nontheless and Maehl is going to have a very difficult time. If he proves me wrong I’ll be very happy!
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 15, 2010 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Undoubtedly he has a tiny chance to land on an NFL roster,
But he will get a shot. Regardless of how slim that shot might be, it is still something he can work for.
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He’s similar to Jordan Shipley, who was drafted and is getting plenty of opportunities this year in the NFL. Maehl may not have the same senior-season numbers, but he should have plenty of chances to make big catches with Thomas at the helm this year.
I think Matthews is going to be the best NFL prospect we have this year, and we have several guys on defense who will get drafted, but I expect Maehl to have a good season and get a shot too.
I’m going to be very interested to see what happens to Noel Devine, and how that projects for our running backs in a couple of years.
I like Maehl
but you are under selling Shipley here.
Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?
My name is not Bryce.
by Im Chris Hansen on Sep 15, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions
He has decent hands, and he is okay at route running, even though he isn’t very strong with them.
I disagree with these. I’d venture to say Maehl has very good or great hands. He also creates a ridiculous amount of separation using his arms and quickness in such a short time right off the line of scrimmage.
My yoke is heavy.
I think that's severely undervaluing Maehl (original poster)
qrsouther has it right — Maehl has great hands. He has great feel for the ball. Yeah, not super fast. But man, does he lay it all out. He was simply rock solid reliable last year. You can’t haul in those many great catches without great hands.
by gamedaytribe on Sep 15, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions
He is reliable, and he does lay it all out, and he has good hands. Not great. Randy Moss, Jerry Rice – they have great hands.
He gets most of his passes on designed screen plays. He doesn’t break coverage with his legs. He doesn’t beat coverage with his speed.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Maehl doesn’t shake off defenders with his feet. He doesn’t sell an out and come back in to get great separation. He doesn’t make a defender take a few extra steps on a hitch. He just doesn’t have strong enough legs to throw off defenders like that. He can get separation on bump coverage – against most Pac-10 defenders. I’m not sure if he’ll be able to do that against NFL defenders.
If you don’t have the size, or the speed, you need to have something else that is freaking outstanding – and Maehl doesn’t have any of that.
There are 255 rounds in the NFL draft, and Maehl is currently projected as the 475th best player for the draft. Maehl isn’t even the listed in the top 50 receivers in the country.
Maehl is a solid collegiate player. He isn’t great at any aspect of his game. He’s an above average player. He has made some great catches, and I’m proud to have him as a duck – but realistically and objectively, he isn’t great. Jaison Williams was more of a realistic NFL receiver.
His best aspect of the game is mentally, followed by balance and shedding tackles.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
I think we're in agreement.
The only thing I disagreed with was saying that he only had “decent hands” and that he’s “okay at route running.” I’d say those are his strong suits.
My yoke is heavy.
Yeah, I definitely wasn't measuring him by NFL standards
I don’t think of him as a prototypical NFL receiver either, physical skills-wise. However, while he lacks in physical skills, I do think he has great hands for the ball. Great touch.
by gamedaytribe on Sep 16, 2010 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
He's like a Wes Welker clone!
Because, you know, he’s….um….a good possession guy.
NOT because they’re both white, I swear.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
2005 Heisman to be left vacant
Makes sense.
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Troy Smith, Tim Tebow, Sam Bradford, and Mark Ingram are also now ineligible for their Heismen awards because Heisman winners get to vote on all Heisman candidates. Bush was ineligible as a player at USC, meaning he was ineligible to win the Heisman, meaning he was ineligible to vote for the Heisman.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
oh and BTW
The Purple Wimple, TCU’s Blog should have their ballot privileges revoked
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WHen you look into his reasonings, it’s not a bad ballot.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
I actually agree
Early season polls are stupid. He has a reasonable set of rules for ranking and sticks to them. He doesn’t have the 2-0 teams in the same order I would, but at this point in the season, all ranking systems are too subjective to mean anything.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 15, 2010 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
What percent of voters in the big polls think half this much about their ballot?
Agree with HRD. I love that he just tosses out wins vs 1AA teams like they didnt even happen. I love his method, not a huge fan of his order, but a ballot to keep an eye on.
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
They’ve been called out time and again by Brian. They really don’t deserve a vote. Ranking East Carolina? Really? Tech Tech above Oregon? Huh?
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I could understand ranking them there. Ranking them 8th is totally indefensible no matter your metric, especially based on resume ranking.
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Is there some kind of karma going on there? I click the link and I get a picture of the Ducks celebrating, then the first line of the text talks about:
…Boise gets no bananas for a last-second win over a team that lost to a I-AA team.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 15, 2010 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
hey benz, my collection now has something yours doesnt
just got it back from the authentication service. It’s an official rose bowl logo football i worked on getting signed while i was there in January. It’s signed by Kenny Rowe, LMJ, Masoli, Dickson, Bair, Blount, Cliff Harris, Maehl.
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Axemen Trivia Time
I’ll try to have one of these a week. They’re all football related.
This week’s: Which former NFL head coach and current Defensive Coordinator was a three-year letterman for the Ducks?
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Mike Nolan...
Maybe something a little tougher would be better. (Not trying to be a dick, in all seriousness).
I’m not even benzduck-old and I knew that!
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions
alright smart-ass
how bout you give us the back-story as to why he wound up going to the U of O?
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I'm not being a smart ass?
It’s just a pretty easy question. I don’t know the back story. A question like that would be better.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
alrighty then
Anyone know the answer to why Mike Nolan even got a shot at the UO?
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Ernie paid him to come.
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by qrsouther on Sep 15, 2010 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
very nicely done Quinn
although you are incorrect, you will still receive a rec for your efforts.
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alright since nobody even really tried, i guess i'll just post the answer. Here goes...
This is an excerpt from Next Man Up, a book by John Feinstein that chronicles the Ravens in the 2004 season. Really interesting read if you’re into football….
Nolan was a cornerback himself, a solid high school player who might have been recruited by some Division 1 schools if he hadn’t suffered a serious eye injury just prior to the start of his senior season. An accidental poke in the eye landed him in the hospital for about a week and some question about whether he’d see out of it again…..
His sight came back and he was able to play a little by the end of the season. Still, any chance that he might get recruited had gone by the boards. Which his where his father’s football contacts came into play. Rich Brooks, who had been on [Nolan’s Dad’s staff] in SF had just gotten the head coaching job at the University of
Oregon. Dick Nolan asked Brooks if he would give his son a chance to walk-on to the team. When Mike arrived in Eugene, Brooks told him, “If you’re ever a starter, I’ll put you on scholarship.”
At the start of spring practice, he was fourth on the depth chart. Then, in 48 hours, it all changed. The number one corner got hurt in a collision with the number two quarterback. The number two corner had to move to QB to fill that spot. Then the number three CB was declared ineligible. Mike never looked back from that point.
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I have been trying to post this for a half hour at least...
Mike went to Woodside High, in Marin County, also the HS of former Ducks Jack Henderson and Bruce Beekley.
I knew he was Dick Nolan’s kid, I knew Brooks was on his staff. I knew he was a walk-on (that was my era after all). I knew he started eventually.
I had forgotten the Oregon backfield in ‘78, offense and defense, was a walking MASH unit. Brooks must have played him because he didn’t have much choice. Nolan was really small (in ’78 he was 5-11 and 168#. Pretty light for a safety then, never mind now.) Size of the Fight in the Dog and all that.
Those were tough years. Willie Blasher was a frequent customer at Jiffy Market on Hilyard st when I worked there in ’77 and ’78. Nice guy. Complained a lot about being sore and tired of losing. Wonder whatever happened to him?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
see now THIS is the kind of answer i was hoping for
I figured you could give some insight too on the walking insurance claim that was the UO backfield that year as well because the book doesnt go into any more detail and i cant find much online about it.
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In ‘78 five members of the projected two-deep in camp didn’t make it to the first game at Colorado —
QB Andrew Page, TB Charlie Bisharat and linemen Garrett Earle, Dick Bates and Jeff Kubitz.
Page was supposed to be an awesome prospect – he could run a sub-10-second 100 and shotput 55 feet and had a cannon for an arm. But he tore up his knee in a scrimmage, then later got caught up in the probation scandal and never amounted to much at Oregon.
BTW: That #2 corner that had to move to QB in ‘77, opening up Nolan’s slot, was Tim Durando, as tough a SOB as ever took a snap at Oregon.
Still trying to figure out why your book called Nolan a corner at Oregon — he was a safety.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I call bs on Page
There’s absolutely no way he could run a sub 10 second 100 meters. LMJ ran a personal best of 10.52 this year for speed reference. Back in 78’, the world record was 9.9 by hand or 9.95 electronically. No way. But otherwise, good post.
Completely agree (as a 100m fan)
78, and a sub10? No way…
by gamedaytribe on Sep 16, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure it was 100 yards
In 1978.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
by benzduck on Sep 16, 2010 7:59 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think Ed Robertson opened Jiffy in the mid-60s. Not sure if he built it or bought it.
He turned it over to sons Joel and Tom in ’78. No idea if any of them are still involved, but I was glad to see it was still there last time I drove by.
Used to do some illegal things in that big beer cooler — is it still there?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Ladies and Gentlemen, we have our official 2010 Oregon Black-Out game
appropriately, it’s the Stanford game, which kicks off @ 8:15 pacific time. Fans are encouraged to wear all-black for this game. The link below is to the facebook page for the event, so dont click it if you arent a facebooker
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Doesn't look very official to me.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Cool little note from Ken Goe about Darron Thomas
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2010/09/oregon_football_oregon_quarter.html
Nice gesture to a fan in tough times
That's a cool story.
I’m sure he could have made some $ off of those or given them to his friends from school, but making a guy happy like that is just awesome.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions
making $ off them is an NCAA violation
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What a shock
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 15, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I immediately knew who the guy was in the story.
Friendly guy. Was out there every practice. I thought he might be a transient, but he seems like a huge fan.
My yoke is heavy.
That reminds me of the story,
Of Todd Doxey giving away all of his tickets to a disabled child that he befriended in his RS freshman season. RIP Todd Doxey.
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Can we just rename the “Recommended Fanpost section” the “benzduck fanpost section”?
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by Matt Daddy on Sep 15, 2010 11:33 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Remember our conversation about
dividing and multiplying by zero?
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Matt Daddy and I will give you a cut of our share.
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What, you don't? Mine's great, it pays for food for my pet unicorn.
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No I don’t. Jared makes me send him beer every month just to stay on the site. I’m starting to think this whole “we’ll make you an author” thing was just a giant ploy.
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You got shafted.
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Ah see! The funny thing about that is your back is located on your-
… actually, I’ll forego this one.
My yoke is heavy.
Just rest easy
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 16, 2010 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like we have a another football commit!
Kyrie WIlson, step on down. Here is a link to his profile
http://rivals.yahoo.com/washingtonstate/football/recruiting/player-Kyrie-Wilson-111915
Looks like a real sleeper.
He has decent size and probably has pretty good speed too.
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