Quack Fix: Ducks Now The Hunted; Miller Likes UO, and UW, OSU To Win.
by JConant on Sep 2, 2010 8:11 AM PDT
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PrintLet me be the first to wish you happy College Football Season. Lots of quack to get to today.
- We've seen plenty of UNM game previews from the UO perspective, but here's a look at one player on New Mexico's defense who should make quite an impact for the Lobos this season. Linebacker Carmen Messina patterns his game after his boyhood role model, Brian Urlacher.
- Jason Vondersmith of the Portland Tribune expects it will be Oregon's defense that shines during Saturday's opener. His prediction: Oregon 45, New Mexico 13.
- ESPN's Ted Miller posted his Pac-10 predictions for week one. Mild surprises, perhaps, in his picks of a Washington win at BYU and Oregon State in an upset over no. 6 TCU. I think he gets at least one of those wrong.
- Rob Moseley writes that after an impressive championship run in 2009, the Ducks now become everyone's target in the Pac-10. Repeating as conference champs is no easy task, and Moseley gets some perspective from two of the handful of coaches who achieved it, for UO coach Mike Bellotti and legendary UW coach Don James.
- At the same time, Moseley suggests that much of the luster was lost from the 2009 title given the Rose Bowl loss and offseason issues. Those may have heightened the Ducks' resolve and made them tough to unseat as champions.
- Yesterday on the Dan Patrick radio show, Ole Miss coach Houston Nutt admitted that former Duck Jeremiah Masoli was going to be his starting QB. That was until the NCAA made a controversial decision to deny Masoli's eligibility to play for the Rebels this season. Still, Nutt is optimistic that Ole Miss is going to win its appeal tomorrow.
- It was a milestone win for the no. 18 Ducks volleyball squad last night, as Jim Moore got win number 100 as Oregon's coach. Last night's victim was Florida Gulf Coast in three games 25-18, 25-17, 25-14.
There should be plenty more to discuss today as we fritter away the moments until Saturday. Please share any good stuff you find on the world wide webs. Go Ducks!
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Nothing can take away the luster of last season
It was so magical.
I only hope this season can match it in results, if not in the sure awesomeness of the run (which I doubt it really could).
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Happy I Love College Football Day, everyone!
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 8:33 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Has it started yet?
Has it? MOOOOM, I want some FOOTBALL!
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
What’s on everyone’s must-watch game list this weekend? Anyone really jazzed about games other than the five obvious ones from the pick-em (LSU/UNC, Boise/VT, OSU/TCU, UW/BYU, Purdue/ND) and the Ducks game?
(The only game tonight that I’m un-artificially excited about is Pitt/Utah. I’m only stoked about the rest because OMG FOOTBALL.)
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USC will be interesting
Its as close to a bowl game as they’ll get this year.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I like the Utah/Pitt match up
Mainly just because Dion Lewis is fun to watch.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
I’m interested in this, but only because I put money on the over.
by SeattleDucks on Sep 2, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Ted Miller...lol
Of course, Oregon State fans, my record picking your games through the years isn’t great…
Born to be a Duck.
by Mill_Duck on Sep 2, 2010 8:38 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Me neither.
OSU is the fucking Kryptonite of the Jersey Contest
Chairman, Tako Owes MCD a Half Rack of Keg Stickers Committee
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 2, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions
re: Masoli
I harbor no ill will towards the guy but I agree with the decision by the NCAA not to allow him to play. He obviously was not following the “spirit” of the rule regarding transfers. Yes, I understand what the rule states but it wasn’t meant to allow players who are suspended/kicked off the team to play immediately. It was meant for student athletes who were serious about getting a graduate school education. I find it hard to believe that Masoli would have transferred to a school with a Parks and Rec graduate program if the off the field stuff didn’t happen
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Here’s my problem with this: I understand your point. I do. I don’t think there’s any reasonable doubt that Masoli transferred to play football, not to play Park Ranger.
Except, since when does the NCAA purport to be able to get inside peoples’ heads?
So, what happens in a similar situation in the future? If Masoli had simply talked about Parks and Recreation for his entire Oregon career before getting in football-related trouble, would he still be in this mess? If he’d dedicated his summer to volunteering at Yellowstone, would that have demonstrated his sincerity? What if he’d been able to recite the name of all 58 national parks, would that have been enough?
Obviously, these questions aren’t a problem in this particular case. It’s pretty clear that Masoli wanted to play football. But have the NCAA provided some sort of a vague blueprint for future student athletes to better exploit the loophole in the future?
My point is that rules exist and should be followed — by both parties. The NCAA’s ruling that (A) Masoli violated the unwritten spirit of the law, and that (B) they were able to know his motives in doing so, sets a negative precedent and, to me, creates an aura of capriciousness.
I honestly don’t give two shits as to whether Masoli plays or not. Karmically speaking, this guy had all this coming to him — even if we assume that he didn’t steal a laptop. I’m just uncomfortable with the NCAA playing God and doing so arbitrarily and slowly.
They don’t like the loophole? Fine. They should close it. All they have to do is to add a clause that a requestee has to be in good standing with the team they left behind. But for the NCAA to assume that they knew what Masoli was thinking, and that Masoli should have known what they were thinking, creates a precedent that doesn’t sit well with me.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
And for them to do it so close to the season
Is highly questionable.
If they wanted to stop him from playing, they should have told him a long time ago.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I do agree with this as well. It is crazy how long they take. Just like with Gaines last year for us. I don’t think we ever heard back on that.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Now at a minnimum
He’s going to miss their admittedly wussy warmup game but still a chance to work himself into their offense.
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Totally agree, Dom. I think we are in minority big time though. I think most people believe that if there’s a loophole, you should be able to exploit it and it’s the rule-makers fault for not closing the loophole.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
You know the one question I wish SI had asked Masoli?
“If you were the head coach and your QB pleaded guilty to theft and then gets caught with weed, what punishment do you feel is fair?”
I'LL BITCH SLAP YOU WITH ROBERT SWIFT!!!
by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
“Ummm…uhhh…” EXACTLY
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't disagree, but not sure the NCAA got it right.
I’m in the middle. I’d like to see Jeremiah get his life headed in the right direction and I think playing some ball would be a positive for him. Nutt, on Patrick’s show yesterday, gushed about Masoli as a person, saying he’d pulled Jeremiah aside at one point and asked him how the heck he got into all that trouble.
I don’t think the NCAA should be trying to play psychologist or try to anticipate Masoli’s motivation. Even if they do so, Ole Miss has a pretty strong argument in that other athletes in the same situation – dismissed from a team – were allowed to compete without a year off.
What I want most from this is consistency from the NCAA. And I think it’s fair to say the initial denial of Masoli’s eligibility is not consistent with some prior rulings. That’s a tough one for me to swallow. That said, Masoli is a suffering the consequences of his own actions here.
I don't deal in hyperbole.
by JConant on Sep 2, 2010 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Whatever the intent of the committee
I certainly appears they made this decision based solely on the notoriety of this case, and made the “spirit of the law” argument to support their decision, despite numerous instances where athletes have been allowed to compete w/o waiting the year.
Even if you support this decision though you have to feel for the team, they have been operating under the assumption that Masoli would start, which usually means he would get the majority of the snaps, and that they have been game planning with his strengths in mind. Now all that has to change with less than one week before the season. That sucks.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
I would like to believe that Masoli has his life headed in the right direction, but he has been enabled throughout his entire life
His family enabled him by moving him to Hawaii (yeah my dad probably would have kicked my ass instead of island paradise) after his high school incident.
Coach Kelly gave him another chance after the theft and Masoli responded by getting caught with weed.
Now Nutt (ha ha) is bailing him out by giving him a chance at Ole Miss…
I guess my question is when does he learn? I think sitting out a year and staying out of trouble would prove a lot.
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Agree. He can still play next year. Before he got kicked off the team he was serving a season-long suspension. By allowing him to play this year he’s receiving positive consequences for negative behaviors.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Look I agree generally
On the principle that there should be consequences for screwing up. The point that many are making here is that the rule is defined how it is written, not by what the framers were thinking when they made it. Add to that the fact that there is already precedent where guys have been kicked off teams, and allowed to play w/o waiting the year. If you don’t like the fact that people are taking advantage of the loophole you change the rule. You shouldn’t however apply the rule differently than you have before in similar situations. Its a consistency issue, not a morality issue.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Add to that the fact that there is already precedent where guys have been kicked off teams, and allowed to play w/o waiting the year.
I honestly wasn’t aware of this. Can you give an example or link of where someone was kicked off a team and didn’t have to wait?
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll have to find it
I saw some cases listed in a Mississippi newspaper article.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Im going out on a limb and say not Jamere Holland
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I change my mind now. While I still 100% believe in someone’s ability to enforce the spirit of a law or rule, the fact that the NCAA has had multiple other waivers for the same scenario and approved them AND they didn’t close the loophole when they had the chance leads me to change my mind on this topic.
If this had never happened before and they were denying Masoli and then closing the loophole I would support them. But the article Dom provides here proves that this has happened multiple times and they have done nothing about it. By approving the other people they are, in my opinion, saying that the spirit of the rule includes this scenario so they should stick with that. Otherwise they should have closed the loophole when they had the chance.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
If this had never happened before and they were denying Masoli and then closing the loophole I would support them.
I would agree with this.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Amazing. We were able to have a multi-person debate over something without anyone getting their panties in a bunch or resort to name calling.
I <3 ATQ
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Even more impressive is someone being swayed by other valid perspectives and actually admitting it rather than sticking to their first opinion like their manhood is violated if they waver.
I also <3 ATQ.
I don't deal in hyperbole.
I’m coachable!
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Being Wrong
I watched Stephen Colbert interviewing someone and he was disagreeing with them, when this exchange happened:
Colbert: “Have you ever been wrong before?”
Guest: “Of course.”
Colbert: “Did you know you were wrong when you said what you said and said it anyways?”
Guest: “No, I thought I was right but later realized I was wrong.”
Colbert: “How do you know right now isn’t one of those times?”
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know. I’m so unsettled by this feel-good ending to the discussion.
That’s it! I, too, reverse my position! MASOLI SHOULD SIT OUT!
But, yeah, ATQ is good people.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I literally laughed out loud because it took me a few seconds to remember where this came from. Think about how much more fun WC 2014 is going to be when this site has way more members. You think arguing with me and a few others about the merits of soccer is bad?
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I am going with the black hole theory.
The sheer gravity of AtQ by 2014 is sure to make the internet implode and result in Louisiana-Lafayette winning the national title.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 2, 2010 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
ESPN will pay Dave $10 million dollars over 6 years for the exclusive rights to Addicted to Quack
Dave will then go on a serious bender in vegas and call me to bail him out.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
whats this?
I’m equal opportunity. There are eight authors? One million each.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
10/8=1?
did I miss something in math class?
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
No, I can't read
I thought it said six million
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
with who else?
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
No, I can’t read
I thought it said six million
This is officially my favorite response to any question, ever.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
its not what you think
I was thinking I would hold out for more money. Not that 6/8=1.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
It’s still awesome.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 3, 2010 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions
And we wonder what's wrong
With the education system in America.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
yep, this is a good point
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Sorry, not Dom’s article. ntrebon’s and QuackinAK’s.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
OH! OH!
Nearly through the first two weeks of law school, and this fits perfectly into some of our lessons on the common law. If this were a court of law, those previous decisions would be considered binding precedent – lower courts would have to look at them and rule the same way (except the supreme court, which usually does follow precedent but will overrule when they feel it necessary).
That’s my huge problem with this decision – they didn’t follow their own precedent, which is what Masoli and Ole Miss had to go on when then made good-faith attempts to operate within the rules. If they’re going to overrule themselves and change the application of the rule, at the very least they need to address their previous decisions and say why those were in error.
His family enabled him by moving him to Hawaii (yeah my dad probably would have kicked my ass instead of island paradise) after his high school incident.
Yes, his family did support him and moved him to a place where he thought he could succeed. And he did. He did extremely well at St. Louis High. I think his parents have given him the benefit of the doubt in every situation and tried to help him succeed. I would hope my parents would do the same for me considering the evidence (albeit anecdotal) that they mentioned in the S.I. exposé.
I’d be hesitant to imply his parents are somehow giving him a free ride on everything just because he moved with his dad to Hawaii for his Senior year. It’s not like they sent him off to “island paradise” as you’d say and gave him Shirley Temples on the beach all day and fanned him with a Palm fern.
My yoke is heavy.
its worse than that, Quinn
his Shirley Temples were served in hollowed out pineapples.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Most parents would…except Canzano’s of course.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d like to see Jeremiah get his life headed in the right direction and I think playing some ball would be a positive for him.
I agree with this, and he can still use his redshirt year and play there NEXT year. If he really does want that Parks and Rec degree, he’s going to be there anyway. He can still practice with them and start next year. That way he can play football for 2 years instead of 1 while he gets his shit together.
I think that someone who got in that much trouble needs to pay his punishment. I mean, if the NCAA ruled in his favor he would have served a ZERO game suspension for the bullshit he was involved in. Sure, he had to transfer, but he would have missed all of this season if he’d stayed at the U of O.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Like having to live in Mississippi isn’t a punishment.
Getting hit by Eddie "Pleasant" is likely not as fun as advertised.
by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He could have still served zero game suspension by transferring to any school. And he could have played immediately by transferring to an FCS school.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
By transferring to any school he would have had to sit out a year. It might not technically been a “suspension” but he would have had to sit out a year as a result of screwing up a Oregon.
I’ve changed my mind on the topic, by the way. Read a few comments above.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
It was meant for student athletes who were serious about getting a graduate school education
While I do agree that this is what the intent was, I don’t buy that this has been the case previously, and I don’t believe that it is the NCAA’s job to interpret or assume what the student’s intents are.
The ruling is completely unprecedented, and that’s why I do have a problem with their decision. I also have a problem with the timing of their ruling.
And finally, Masoli is not on any scholarship, and if he were to transfer to a FCS school, he could get one, AND play immediately.
I agree with the nature of the decision, but I disagree with the reasons of the decision. They need to clarify their rules, and not tie a carrot from a stick and hang it in front of the horse.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
What are you thoughts on the precedent it would set if they ruled in his favor. Anyone who wants to transfer who’s going into their senior year can just get themselves kicked off the team, finish their classes, and transfer without sitting out. Where do you draw the line on someone getting kicked off their team being able to then transfer without sitting out? Also, don’t you think if that were the ruling, coaches would kick kids off the team AND get them kicked out of school so that they aren’t even eligible for that waiver? I liked that Chip and UO let him finish his education at least and I think that wouldn’t happen in the future.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
I can’t speak for JShu, but again — to me, the easy fix here is to build something into the rule that requires a transfer to be in good standing with his previous team. As far as I’m concerned, this largely solves the problem of creating a bad precedent with the opposite ruling.
And I, for one, don’t think that there is a serious risk of coaches trying to get kids kicked out of the school entirely rather than just out of the football program. Maybe I’m just optimistic, but I don’t think that most D-1A coaches are that vindictive.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions
So you are saying that you agree that he’s violating the spirit of rule, but since there’s a loophole there they should allow him to play and then close the loophole in the rule and not allow the next person to do it?
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess that’s a logical consequence of what I’m saying — but what I’m really saying is that I’m uncomfortable with the NCAA’s newfound ability to peer into the heads of student athletes, and I don’t think this is something that they should make a habit of.
I think that it’s more dangerous for the NCAA to do something that I think can fairly be called capricious than for them to allow one person to escape through a loophole and then to close it.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
My other gripe is this — and allow me to borrow a tactic of the NCAA momentarily and assume that I know what they’re thinking — it seems as though the NCAA is attempting to make an example out of some high-profile cases this summer (Masoli and USC come to mind, and in the near future it’s likely that UNC will come to mind as well).
They are handing out punishments that are more severe than were awarded to fairly similar cases in the past. This is the part that I’m uncomfortable with. This sets up the idea that based on the whimsy of whatever set of people happen to be in the board, rulings can be made on rules or on spirits, players can be held to actions or to possible motivations, and punishments can range from heavy to soft,
Consistency is a good thing.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I see now. I’m looking at this from a different angle than you. I don’t think the NCAA is making a determination of whether or not he’s transferring because of his desire for that degree. I think they are saying “if you suspended for a season and/or kicked off your team, it’s not a valid reason to then transfer and not sit out”. They could probably do themselves a favor by stating WHY they denied the waiver.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions
To be fair, I think they did — I believe that they explicitly said that the waiver was denied on the grounds that Masoli was attempting to circumvent a punishment.
But at any rate, it looks like we’ll have to agree to disagree on this issue. And that’s fine with me. You know why?
A) You’re a Duck fan. We are brothers, and it’s okay if we disagree.
B) OMG FOOTBALL FOOTBALL YOU GUYS FOOTBALL OMG OMG
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
REC’D
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Someone can correct me if I’m wrong, and I just tried to double check on this, however…
Getting kicked off a team is a decision of the coach, and the AD and not one of the school (They school administration CAN remove them from the school, but that didn’t happen) or the NCAA. The NCAA can rule on eligibility, and they have minimum suspension based on conduct, but those are limited to specific conduct – which Masoli didn’t violate.
It isn’t the NCAA’s job, or duty to uphold the Chip Kelly’s suspension.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
This is where I'm in agreement on this.
Masoli was in good standing with the University. He successfully completed his scholastic college undergrad career. Despite his off the field issues, he was a successful STUDENT. The NCAA is supposed to support STUDENT athletes. If they aren’t, then they’re admitting that the football and basketball programs are actually just minor leagues for the NFL and NBA, respectively.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
The ruling is completely unprecedented, and that’s why I do have a problem with their decision. I also have a problem with the timing of their ruling.
Just because a ruling is unprecedented doesn’t make it wrong. Timing? Not so great but NCAA operates on NCAA time. The reasons for the decision were that the NCAA understood what we all understand. He was trying to circumvent the transfer rules by exploiting the graduate program rule. In that way, his application was denied.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
I'm starting to come around to not having a problem with it
The NCAA has kind of shown that precedent is out the window this season. They’re enforcing things much more stringently than they have in the past all the way around. In this context, I’m not sure Masoli’s being singled out.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Yes, the NCAA operates on NCAA time – I still dont’ think it is unreasonable to ask for more out of them. I’ve said it before, and it is the god honest truth, it takes less time for the US Supreme Court to hear a case, and make a ruling than the NCAA clearinghouse does. This is preposterous and needs to be straightened out.
And unprecedented rules do not make something wrong. But being completely inconsistent, and making a decision, which is arguably singling out Masoli, based on something outside of their own jurisdiction is wrong.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
But being completely inconsistent, and making a decision, which is arguably singling out Masoli, based on something outside of their own jurisdiction is wrong.
If they allow Masoli to play and then close the loophole and deny everyone else, that isn’t consistent. What is consistent, in my opinion, is for them to deny Masoli, close the loophole, and deny everyone else too.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
It isn’t really inconsistent. Masoli and everyone else are operating under the rules as they stand. What are they supposed to go on if not the rule on the books and the previous decisions by the NCAA?
Read down. I wasn’t aware of previous decisions of the identical nature.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
And I also don’t think it is the NCAA’s place to say he was only going after the loophole because he exploiting the graduate program rule. It’s their own rule, which he followed according to their guidelines. If they don’t like that he did that, they shouldn’t have that option in the first place. There is the obvious, but even in the “obvious”, there are assumptions of intent. This may sound ridiculous, but who is to say Masoli isn’t interested in getting his Masters in Parks and Recreation?
They should close the loophole by only allowing people to transfer, if they haven’t used their redshirt year.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
From what I’ve read, the loophole/rule only allow him the right to apply for the waiver, not to be granted. I read this on EDSBS, so I’m by no means an expert.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps, but I don’t understand the specifics of all that.
I just think it’s a bullshit thing to do of essentially laying out a road path of “here is how you can do this!”. and then point and laugh at them after they follows all the steps and procedures laid before them.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
I think that there should be a “pre-approval” type thing. Kind of like how guys can submit their name for the draft but not hire and agent and then go back to school after it’s clear they aren’t going early in the draft. If someone told them they had a good shot or would be granted the waiver then I totally agree this is horseshit.
That being said, if Ole Miss just figured it would be granted because the talking heads on College Football Live said so, that’s a different story.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
My guess is Houston Nutt figured the waiver would be granted because his Ouija board said so, which is how I suspect he makes all his important decisions.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I must admit,
Nutt is crazy (as if this was news) for relying on a troubled player that was kicked off of a team and had to apply to graduate school, and proceed to walk on to the football team as his starter at QB. That sure sounds like it would get caught up in the typical inefficiencies of the NCAA right away.
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So he is "Nutts" ?
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Pac-10 Lines/Over under
Home team in caps, Pac-10 teams on the left whether favored or not.
Thursday, September 2
USC (-21) vs. HAWAII OU: 53.5
Friday, September 3
Arizona (-16) vs. TOLEDO OU: 60
Saturday, September 4
UCLA (1.5) vs. KANSAS STATE OU: 45
OREGON (-34) vs. New Mexico OU: 55
CALIFORNIA (-29.5) vs. UC-Davis OU: N/A
STANFORD (-40) vs. Sacramento State OU: N/A
Washington (3) vs. BYU OU: 56.5
Washington State (16) vs. OKLAHOMA STATE OU: 49
Oregon State (13.5) vs. TCU OU: 50.5
ARIZONA STATE (-34) vs. Portland State OU: N/A
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I'd definately take the points there
I think TCU will win but it’ll be closer than that.
I mean it IS a home game basically for TCU but still.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Here's what I would love to see...
A repeat of Locker’s celebration penalty to help them lose to BYU…again. This may be the only time in history where I will cheer for the Fighting Mormons.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
I'll root for UW.
After the freaking ridiculous deal that ESPN just handed them for no good reason, I will root against BYU for all eternity.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
I'm just rooting for the stadium to blow up or something
Honestly, I’d probably rather have UW win than BYU. And it hurts me to say that.
--Dave
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This is how I felt about the ND/UW game last year.
I felt like such a traitor hoping for an act of terrorism.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
I say this with teeth gritted and the maximum amount of self-loathing infused:
It raises the profile of the conference as a whole if one of our teams defeats a well-known non-conference foe. Most especially if we win the conference, we directly benefit from a Fuskies win.
/seppuku
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
View it this way
A UW win gives their fans false hope, which means their inevitable decline much more painful for them.
Although I did pick BYU to win in the jersey contest.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Hmmm… I like your angle, sir. There are few things more delicious than robbing your most hated enemy of hope.
And I, too, picked the Fighting Mormons to win in the jersey contest — but there’s often a long way between who I’m rooting for and who I think will win. Pick’em’s got to be made on the second basis, because axemen23 must be stopped at any cost.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
That was what made the win over UW last season so sweet
They were so high and mighty because they had beaten USC. We showed them they weren’t that good.
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why dioes it hurt you?
a uw win just makes the uo win over uw more valuable. i want every team oregon plays to win all their games vs everyone except uo.
#88
and UW can go die in a hole.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
After the freaking ridiculous deal that ESPN just handed them for no good reason, I will root against BYU for all eternity.
I’m by no means a BYU fan or anything, but there are a LOT of Mormons in the country and many of them support BYU. My neighbors across the street know nothing about football but they have BYU stickers all over their cars and fly a BYU flag on their house. I heard someone on ESPN say that the BYU Network is in 50 million homes. There’s your reason, 50 million homes is going to be worth some money.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Although I bet there are lots of folks like myself
That get the BYU Network and have never watched a single second of it.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I don’t know much about how tv networks work, but I’m thinking that the fact that you even have it included in your tv package is worth something.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
It was tossed in when I paid the few dollars to upgrade to Comcast Digital Silver
So I could get the sports channels (NFL Network, all the FSN channels, etc.)
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yeah, but I’m thinking that still holds some value. Clearly not as much value as someone who watches the channel, but still some value nonetheless.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I understand that BYU is a popular institution,
I did also read in a release about their new deal, that BYU-TV is not in 55 million homes, but is merely “available” in 55 million homes (assuming that means something other than paid for).
BYU will not be able to schedule a very strong slate in football, ever. It is a distinct possibility that their only marquis game in a given season is vs. Utah. BYU has already agreed to fill half of it’s schedule in the coming years with weak WAC teams. I dont understand why ESPN would pay huge bucks for the rights to all of their games, since the vast majority of them will be against awful teams. That is why I refered to the deal as “ridiculous”.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
They only said they'd show the games on the ESPN "Family of Networks"
Which includes ESPNU.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
i think we'll see a lot of BYU games exclusively on ESPN3
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
There also is the west coast factor
At least for now, ESPN doesn’t have the rights to a lot of Pac-10 games so this will give them something to show later on Saturdays.
You see this in the NBA a lot, its why Portland has a LOT of TNT games, there aren’t many decent NBA teams on the west coast.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
FUCK LA
That is all.
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by skywaker9 on Sep 2, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
REC'D
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
SCREW SAN DIEGO!!!
I'LL BITCH SLAP YOU WITH ROBERT SWIFT!!!
by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
FLAGGED. GO CHARGERS
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
FUCK AJ SMITH!!!
I'LL BITCH SLAP YOU WITH ROBERT SWIFT!!!
by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I always think that it is funny how many San Diego fans hate AJ Smith. He is the man that has built this team into perennial playoff contenders. We honestly don’t have the money to be able to pay Vincent Jackson and Marcus McNeil right now. What do people expect?
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Anyone other than Nate Kaeding and/or Norv Turner?
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Kaeding grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. That guy could go 100% FG’s and XP’s this year and I will give him no credit until he starts making some in the playoffs.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I want to hug the guy.
Ever since he missed against the Jets in the playoffs a while ago I knew…he just looks scared
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
He probably knows that if he misses Merriman is going to go on a roid-fueled Kaeding-beating in the locker room if he misses again.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
It's too bad,
That Merriman never went on a roid rage trip and beat up Antonio Cromartie. He sure deserved it a number of times.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Did Merriman get back on his cycle cause I love the guy
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
We don't know.
He wants a new contract, but played awful all of last season because he is coming off of a major knee surgery. So he thought that the logical thing to do in order to ensure that he deserves a new contract was sit out of camp entirely, and show nobody that he can play. We still have not seen him in a preseason game.
But I will always love him for being the most ferocious player I have ver seen during his first few roid fueled seasons. His hit on Preist Holes was insane. So bad, that Merriman’s PR team has done a good job scrubbing it from the interwebs.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Kaeding?
The most accurate kicker in NFL regular season history? We just need two kickers. A regular season stud (Kaeding), and a designated playoff kicker (????). In all seriousness though, I sure hope that he can recover from the postseason trauma that he has had to deal with.
I actually like Norv too. He also bears far too much unsubstantiated hate from San Diego fans. I like him endlessly more than Marty Schottenheimer.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
NO YOU!
Also irony that above is a nice well thought out discussion and here is this.
"I have a very strong distaste for Oregon State and Washington. Also Stanford.
YEAH WELL YOU ARE A PIECE OF SHIT YOU KNOW THAT?
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
YEAH!
WHAT MCD SAID!
Whew, my caps lock key is getting a workout this morning.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
NO YOU!
Inpenetrable defense!
"I have a very strong distaste for Oregon State and Washington. Also Stanford.
/sarcasm font
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey Dave,
Can you delete the huge thread above? The one with the intellectual debate and mutual respect and all that bullcrap? It’s cramping our style.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I think you guys need to visit the OregonLive boards
to remind yourselves how people on the internet are supposed to act.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Its funny how they dont allow comments under high school articles
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
could you imagine how bad that would be
I think its because they don’t want people bad talking amateur high school athletes, but then they have HS forums, so go figure
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I made the grave mistake of reading some of the comments on the Youtube video of The Pick yesterday. Those brain cells are gone forever.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Youtube comments are awful.
They make me disgraced to be a sports fan and root for the same teams as some of these people
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
My face after reading though an entire youtube comment section for the first time:
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
you have to admit
its fun reading one of these when i’m not involved, isn’t it?
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Think about this..
There are no .GIFs slowing it down…
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
Do so at the risk of upsetting curmudgeon #1.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Won't bother me!
Just make sure it’s entertaining or at least not a worn out meme. Quinn will have your head…
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
flagged for being completely ridiculous
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
You know all that cool stuff you did earlier? Yeah you just ruined all of it with one statement.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
We are all Heat fans now!!!
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I've decided to leave AtQ
I’m taking my blogging talents to South Beach.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
King James couldn't blog his way out of a paper bag.
ATQ FOREVER.
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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 2, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Right,
But there is no reason to pay for the rights to broadcast much of their “slate” on any network.
I admittedly know next to nothing about how TV contracts work with corporations such as ESPN, but it sure seems to me that ESPN is overpaying by leaps and bounds for the right to air mostly terrible games.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Its only a 3-year deal if I understand
So if it doesn’t work, BYU will take a hit then.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I'm sure that they would be able to find a new home,
In the next realignment extravaganza if their ESPN deal failed to work out after three years.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Indeed.
And you know that there’s no way they’ll ever get “Most Favored Nation” status as an independent like Notre Dame did. I just don’t see how they ever get back to a BCS game again in the foreseeable future.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
They never will
There is no way BYU will ever come close to developing 1% of the mystique and tradition ND has.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
But only because of the underwear and sleeve rule
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
They're called Temple Garmets!!!
Show some respect. Jeez
/kidding
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
I think Notre Dame counts
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Claims of huge numbers of Mormons
Are often vastly over blown The LDS church places the number at 13.8 million world wide. A drop in the bucket when compared to Catholics or protestants in this country alone.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Don’t sell your soul just because ESPN is an evil institution. UW is still the real enemy here. BYU may be an annoying pest, but they’re not OUR annoying pest, you know?
Defending maligned chants since 2009
We should all just take a page out of Musgrave's book and refuse to acknowledge the game.
There are so many sources of evil involved. UW, ESPN and BYU are all terrible!
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
I guess I don’t hate BYU as much as everyone else here seems to. Maybe it’s because a few of my best friends are Mormon. Maybe it’s because I think their decision to go independent is pretentious and possibly foolish, it doesn’t make them nearly as bad as Notre Dame.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I can't hate their decision to independent
Like it or not, they weren’t getting picked up by an AQ conference. They did what was best for them financially.
Stop with your logic and reasoning! These things do not belong on the interwebz.
"I have a very strong distaste for Oregon State and Washington. Also Stanford.
yeah, I want to be an emotional fan
on that note, FUCK BOISE STATE!
--Dave
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by David Piper on Sep 2, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I don't really get the BYU hate either
From my perspective, Mormons are just like any other Christian denomination, or any other religious sect for that matter. They all have some weirdness in their ritual.
As to the sports teams, they don’t act entitled to the degree that, for example, Notre Dame does. They don’t play dirty. They don’t talk smack. People don’t hate Notre Dame because it’s Catholic. Why hate BYU because it’s Mormon?
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 2, 2010 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I dont mind BYU at all
my issue comes with the Notre Dame comparisons.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Let me be clear: It is the other team in that game that I hate.
That team shall go nameless.
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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 2, 2010 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
New Mexico guarantees that they will hold LMJ under 100 yards!!!
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 8:50 AM PDT reply actions
That… seems pretty likely, yup.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I am excited for Barner to get his chance.
If he can run inside effectively, look out. That to me is LaMike’s most underrated aspect to his game; how tough he is to bring down. Watching some of last years games I still cannot believe how he got out of some tackles and he looks more muscular this year.
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I think we should let them feel good about themselves, and let that happen.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
This clip explains the speed Oregon will run at this year
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk7VWcuVOf0
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Whatsamatter Colonel Sanders...
CHICKEN????
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
Prehmmr I’ve rechecked my best sources again and they all say Junior center Michael Dunigan is gone. Find out new info @DuckTerritory war room.
Interesting we haven’t heard anything official one way or the other, but Prehm is usually pretty on with this kind of stuff. Given that multiple sources reported this originally, I think he’s gone.
--Dave
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I spoke with an old friend and former baseball/football teammate – a local guy who’s an expert in overseas hoops – about what kind of money Dunigan might be chasing. 1) He agreed with me that MD had underachieved at Oregon, 2) suggested the money is not great, maybe $100,000, but that the coaching he’d receive is good, and 3) was adamant that the NCAA would be paying a visit to Eugene soon as Dunigan most certainly had been talking to an agent of some type.
Time will tell. At this point, I’m happy to see him leave. I’m hoping his exit will help the Ducks avoid any issues with the NCAA regarding Dunigan’s actions before his decision to leave was final. Of course, I have no idea whether Dunigan’s decision to go ahead and leave in any way diminishes the potential for consequence if a violation occurred.
I don't deal in hyperbole.
If he has been talking with an agent over the offseason
and he doesn’t play in a game for us since said violation occured, than I don’t believe that the school would be under any sort of punishment, since no ineligible athletes competed.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
This is exactly what the Bylaw Blog is for. What a wonderful resou...
…wait…
shit
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
the moron that outed that guy.......
seriously, that was messed up.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
His defense of why he did it was awesome too. It’d be like me off-handedly acknowledging that someday I am going to die, and then him using that as a reason to sneak up behind me and shank me with a broken bottle.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
What happened with that? If it’s not too much to type.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
he found out who the guy was
and outed him just to brag and prove that he could.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Certainly not too much to link:
The gist: The proprietor of an LSU blog called everynightshouldbesaturdaynight decided to expose the guy’s identity just to prove that he could.
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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 2, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
this guy at ensbsn.com exposed who the writer of the bylaw blog was, causing the bylaw blog to shut down because he wanted to be anonymous (because the NCAA sucks dick). so the internet got pissed off at him and the guy made up an excuse that went “he said he was anonymous and i wanted to show he wasn’t safe, that if he was commenting on NCAA bylaws he needed to be at a big university, bullshit bullshit bullshit”
THAT GUY IS A PIECE OF SHIT. I’m on a roll today. This statement is very versatile.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Except that you keep rec’ing without actually rec’ing. Come on man, step up your game!
I don't deal in hyperbole.
It shows that I rec’d both of the ones I said I rec’d on my end. When I click actions, the only option I have is unrec. Wierd.
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by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I wish I were
but there’s a little matter of not having a ticket. UW is the only game I have a ticket for at this point.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
If anyone has extra tickets to donate to the Dave charity fund.......
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Sounds like pretty great money by most standards.
Disclaimer: everything I know about basketball I learned on Blazersedge.
Kenny Wheaton's gonna score! (for charity)
New t-shirts honoring the Pick will be sold today in portland and tomorrow in eugene w/ wheaton on hand to sign them.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
read the story
they’re special shirts commemorating The Pick.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Just a heads up.
The Oregonian did a great story on LMJ and his road back from his arrest. It was in the paper today but hasnt been posted online yet.
He didnt make any excuses and has gone out of his way to talk to young folks…good to see he gets it.
I'LL BITCH SLAP YOU WITH ROBERT SWIFT!!!
by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 9:49 AM PDT reply actions
Although the rest of that preview is quesitonable
Both the writers pick us to go 8-4, losing all three big Pac-10 road games and one other to boot.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Well, it is the Oregonian
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
That is a fair,
but pessimistic view. 8-4 would be a disappointment, but it’s well within the realm of possibility.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 2, 2010 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Last year,
We were not a very good road team, but we were certainly decent. I think that this season, with more experience pretty much everywhere except QB, we will become a better road team.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
And I really think Cal is not going to be very good this year
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yeah Cal seems to be in the long decline
It doesnt help that their big recruiting get decided to rock out in Florida instead of Cal.
Its crazy to me that Riley is still playing considering I played against him in high school and I graduated from college two years ago.
I'LL BITCH SLAP YOU WITH ROBERT SWIFT!!!
by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually think that they will surprise,
They have always been a team that has folded under preseason expectations. Kevin Riley will be better (not saying a whole lot), they will still have a good rushing attack, and their defense should be decent. They would be an 8-9 win team.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
The problem with Cal
Is that Tedford’s offense is thoroughly predictable
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yep.
Next play is going to be a halfback draw. I swear.
Perhaps having a different style of runner this season as opposed to shifty Jahvid Best will change things (doubtful). If Kevin Riley has improved a fair amount, maybe they will be able to open up some semblance of a passing game for once. It’s not likely, but perhaps it’s possible.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
I’m very uncreative and would like to name my fantasy team after LMJ, anyone care to throw out some ideas?
by westspec on Sep 2, 2010 10:03 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Anything other than the Chokers would work.
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
one of my fantasy teams is named LaMazing
but if you steal it I will know.
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
I keep telling my wife that any name is cool if you just add "La" or "Le" on it.
I would be LaTim or LaTimothy.
badass
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by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I think all of our DB’s should add III to their names.
"I have a very strong distaste for Oregon State and Washington. Also Stanford.
Does that make TJ3 become TJ6?
On the Back of his jersey, “JACKSON VI”
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
You just dont see the fourth generation and onward...tear
I'LL BITCH SLAP YOU WITH ROBERT SWIFT!!!
by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
He will be grandfathered in and exempt
"I have a very strong distaste for Oregon State and Washington. Also Stanford.
I actually like this a lot,
I just might consider calling him this from now on…
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
New FA(t)Q
When volleyball team is mentioned, picture(s) will be provided.
That link had no picture! The R-G needs to step their game up.
I feel like I should say something smart.
Broke your own rule.
Pay up.
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ATQ online dynasty
we’re now a week ahead, sorry for the delay, i was on the east coast for the past week. the guy who is playing as vatech, check in more often, you still won your game.
I Can Haz Football
Dom, have you shut down I Can Haz Football for good? Because if not, I can haz I Can Haz Football?
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:28 AM PDT reply actions
I’m happy to report that I have some ready for tomorrow. You and your demands!
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Holy hell, we’re gonna reach 200 comments before 10:45! Quick, someone throw up the Roboduck GIF to slow everyone down!
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
We are all incredibly antsy for college football season to kickoff tonight!
I’m amazed that it took until 11-ish to reach 200 comments. It takes about ten minutes in a game thread to do that
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Until the high school kids finally wake up between 1030 and 1100 and come in here and suck all the fun out of the thread.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait a minute...
Thats right! They’re all in high school again and have to wake up at 7!
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
you asssume I have morning classes as a senior this year
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
I’m really curious to see what happens with the gameday open threads. For the higher profile games I bet we break 1000 at least once.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
How many of us will be at the game though?
"I have a very strong distaste for Oregon State and Washington. Also Stanford.
It will happen with Cal, USC, OSU, the Bowl game.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
If you add up all the gameday open threads that is.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
There were 683 comments in the 2 Rose Bowl open threads. 493 of those in the 2nd half thread.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
One downside to College Football Season: Oski
Just when I finally forget about that creep-show and get him out of my dreams, I have to start seeing that pedophile again. Bummer.
Which one came first: Oski or Pedobear?
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
To those that don't get the O
They featured this pic today (as well as one of Quizz):
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
yeah, that's not badass at all
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
They’re actually like a gunmetal greyish sort of thing…I still don’t know why the NCAA requires grey gloves.
"I have a very strong distaste for Oregon State and Washington. Also Stanford.
Same reason you can't put your area code on your eye-black
none.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
by axemen23 on Sep 2, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Because players were supporting some ridiculous stuff.
And considering how well changing the automatic exemption for graduate school to ability to apply for a waiver has gone for them, they apparently wouldn’t be allowed to just stop ridiculous eyeblack messages.
by AllSaintsDay on Sep 2, 2010 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I recall...
watching an OU vs. Texas game where the Oklahoma O-line all wore ‘burnt orange’ gloves. I think that may have something to do with the color requirement.
Do yourself a favor
look at the image shrunk down to a small size. LaMichael with big wings!
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
He looks kind of wistful, I wonder what he is thinking about.
Wishing there were and off season endzone he could run into, perhaps?
Chairman, Tako Owes MCD a Half Rack of Keg Stickers Committee
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 3, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions
The lighting in this picture is really cool,
He almost doesn’t look like LaMichael James though. In this picture, his face looks quite a bit different than usual.
Self-anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
i thought this was pretty funny
@williamfleitch: Attempts to use Google to do any sports-related research is made about 92 percent more difficult by The Bleacher Report.
by ntrebon on Sep 2, 2010 11:43 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously. Is there a way to purposefully omit results from a website on google?
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
There are too many comments in this thread.
Can everyone stop commenting it’s slowing down my browser?
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
by Matt Daddy on Sep 2, 2010 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Mine's working fine
Of course I’m using BrownFox Bronze for a browser and my computer has a 9TB processor and 440ZB of RAM. I have the Super-Ultra-Delux-Malware-Spyware-Detective Detector and it keeps everything running smooth, regardless of the comments, .GIFs or whining.
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
Wait until you get hit with the Axemen virus. It’s unstoppable. You’ll scroll down comment threads and see nothing but nonsense.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I've heard about that!
There’s an easy fix and I’ve programmed my computer to fix it. I just push the ‘z’ button and it all goes away…
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
This is something definitely worth commenting on: the rare serious (or as serious as Spencer can get) EDSBS piece. It will make you appreciate tonight and the start of football that much more (if possible):
12:25 pm. 256 comments.
Don’t any of you people have jobs?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
by benzduck on Sep 2, 2010 12:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
jobs? yes.
jobs that require us to work? another issue
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 2, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
egg-zactly
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
The shocking thing is I actually got a lot done today.
Imagine what I can do if I actually tried!
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Get a BBQ that doesn’t flame-out every 5 mins?
/not bitter
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
The company I worked for required all salaried employees to take 40 hours of vacation between July 1st and Sept 30. I took today and tomorrow as 2 of my days, partly because I knew that if I was at work these 2 days I’d just spend all day on ATQ anyway.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
what company is this??
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
It’s a software company in Beaverton. You understand why companies require that right? Paid vacation days accumulate as a liability for the company, so it’s kind of a tricky way to reduce your company’s liabilities so your balance sheet looks better. As you accrue vacation days, the company has that money in a liability account because they know at some point they’ll have to pay it. By forcing employees to take some of it, their liabilities decrease before you close your fiscal year.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
A lot of companies, especially financial companies (like mine), also require their employees to take 40 hours of vacation in a row. This makes it harder for fraud to occur since it requires a different employee to do your job for a week. The idea is that they may discover an anomaly in the work you’ve been doing which could indicate potential fraud.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I have so much vacation accumulated that if I don’t take some I’ll lose it anyway. I think I have like 5 weeks that I could take. I just hardly ever take any.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm forced to take three months of unpaid vacation every year
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 2, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Umm, isn’t your 9 month compensation adjusted for this fact?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
shhh! You just let out the secret!
I'LL BITCH SLAP YOU WITH ROBERT SWIFT!!!
by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
My mom was a teacher. I used to get into arguments with one of the neighbors who thought it was just unfair that they got 3 months off all summer and still got paid for it while he had to work his ass off as a brickmason. He just didn’t get the concept of pro-rated salary.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I'm a sub
so I’m paid hourly. And if I don’t work, I don’t get paid.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
You could always teach summer school.
/ducks the brick Dave throws at me for suggesting it
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
I'm not sure you'll want to show up at the UW tailgate anymore
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
I love vacation so much. Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy my job and am very glad to be working at my company. But I would take a week of vacation every month if I could.
The unpaid thing…that’s a different story.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I used to. Now my work just piles up while I’m gone, so I can’t really enjoy the time off because I know I’m going to have 1000+ emails waiting for me for each week I miss.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
And as long as we're discussing it
I’ll add that a memo going out to all employees “requesting” that they use up their vacation time before X date is usually a good indicator that layoffs are around the corner.
I’m so excited for all the high schoolers around here to grow up and get real jobs!
We’ve done it that past 4 years straight.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 2, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I am officially unemployed at the end of the week!!!
I'LL BITCH SLAP YOU WITH ROBERT SWIFT!!!
by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
At least I can watch the ducks.
I'LL BITCH SLAP YOU WITH ROBERT SWIFT!!!
by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a job
That I had to perform a ridiculous amount of work at today. Thus, it is 4:30 and I’m on here for the first time and I’m comment number 350. I feel like I’ve completely missed the boat on the entire day. Damn work anyway!!
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave, benzduck and Matt Daddy fan
Oh!
And NOW I have to go to soccer practice. Gloom, despair and agony for me.
Is someone going to feel sorry for me soon, or do I have to keep bitching??
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave, benzduck and Matt Daddy fan
Sorry
or do I have to keep bitching??
I have a wife already…
May we hand you your taints on a silver platter...
Well jeez, you’d think you’d be better at shutting one up then.
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave, benzduck and Matt Daddy fan
Edgy Daisy seems to be a full-time persona lately.. Must be almost football season.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I like it, she's definitely on the 2 deep at Ass Kicker.
Chairman, Tako Owes MCD a Half Rack of Keg Stickers Committee
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 3, 2010 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Hope to see one of these Saturday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kv7V8LBI_I
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
That's $60 right there and he's not stopping. haha
Yes sir, we’re tweeting from 20,000 feet on a Delta flight to Dallas. … just experimentall, and considering I think this is costing the ..
..Oregonian $9.95 per tweet, maybe I should go easy. But this in-flight wi-fi is kinda cool.
$9.95 a re-tweet? Why the hell not RT @LindsayRae19: How to stop the TCU offense right now on ESPN. Is Mark Banker watching???
You think this $9.95 in-flight wi-fi session is like one of those 1-900 calls? Is my MasterCard gonna get hit for $12,345.67? Yikes
RT @LindsayRae19: Good God. Let’s hope the TSA isn’t reading this. RT @Pnbuker: Yes sir, tweeting from 20,000 feet on Delta flight to Dallas
Sinuses? The Absolut helped! RT @dougdiver: @Pnbuker you might be the first writer in Oregon to tweet from an Airplane. How are the sinuses
Jersey Contest update
Well, we just had our 200th unique Jersey Contest entry. While not everyone who submitted this week will stick around all season and others will start after missing this week, week one typically sees the highest number of entries. Last year we had 118 entries in the first week.
OK, nobody asked, but here's my take on the Masoli NCAA decision.
Seems cut and dried to me.
The request was for a waiver. Unless an organization’s rules state that waivers will not be subject to review and approval, any such request — from a school board on up — is not automatically granted, but is evaluated.
The NCAA is an organization, not a court of law, and doesn’t have to play by legal evidentiary standards. They are entitled to use any standards they want to evaluate a waiver request, including their perception of the sincerity of the applicant.
Now. If I was sitting on a board that was reviewing a waiver request, the first thing I’m going to ask is: What’s the purpose of the request? Is it frivolous? Is it an attempt to get around a situation caused by this person’s own decisions or misadventure? (Example: Family moves 4 miles out of town because they got a really good deal on a homestead and now wants to petition the school board to let their kids attend school A, even though they aren’t in that district any more. Some might say “Sure”. I’d say “Tough beans.” Family says “No fair! All their friends go to this school!” Me: “Make new friends! Good luck with that.” ) Etc.
A waiver board of review is obligated to fairly evaluate any request for a policy waiver. This applies without regard to whether all the rules that allow the person to submit the waiver in the first place are followed.
Now. In this case, I think it’s fair to approach Masoli’s request in this way: Had he not been kicked off the Oregon squad, would we be seeing this waiver request? Anyone want to make that case? Hello?
If I was the waiver board, I’d want to see some kind of supporting documentation showing that Masoli hadn’t suddenly decided he wanted to make a career out of park and recreation management sometime after CK booted him.
I don’t think it matters that he was in good standing with the University. He’s graduated, and Ole Miss seems to be willing to take him at the academic level. But if it was just about academics, the NCAA wouldn’t be involved. It’s not. The NCAA has a right to enforce its own rules and regulations regarding the athletic side of things.
I think it’s eminently reasonable for a review board to draw conclusions on the intent of the waiver applicant. And in this case, I think they made the correct decision. They could have been a bit more forthcoming in their reasoning, maybe, but the bottom line is, Masoli has a right to go to OleMiss and pursue that graduate degree, but he has to sit out a year. I have no problem with this.
I think all y’all who are pissed at the NCAA on this decision need to take a deep breath and get some perspective. There are plenty of reasons to be pissed at the NCAA, but frankly, this ain’t one of them.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
In general I agree
but this is disregarding past NCAA rulings which then makes it seem that they do not rule on the basis of facts, but on their whims which makes it an inconsistent and unreasonable rule since you cannot tell what their whim will be the next time someone tries this.
I’d say you can make a case that they ruled here based on facts:
1. Masoli was kicked off the Oregon team. Fact.
2. Masoli found Mississippi had a grad program that Oregon didn’t offer and was willing to take him on their team. Fact.
3. Masoli requested a NCAA waiver of the transfer sit-out rules to play for Miss. Fact.
4. There’s no evidence that Masoli would have enrolled at OleMiss had he NOT been kicked off (If this evidence was proffered, none of us have ever heard it. And Masoli’s PR web-site didn’t mention his parks and rec interest until after he was kicked off the Ducks. And in all the news stories, profiles, etc over the last two years, there’s zero mention of this interest.) Fact, by implication perhaps, but I don’t think anyone would make this case with a straight face.
Based on the facts, it’s easy to conclude that Masoli is at Ole Miss to play football, not to advance his studies.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
of course
but the NCAA hasn’t followed it’s own “spirit of the rule” anyway
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
The concept is “case-by-case basis.” Get to know it.
A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds,
Adored by little statesmen and philosophers and axemen23
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Well, adhering to precedent is hardly foolish consistency.
A rule isn’t just what’s written down, it’s how it’s enforced. And the way that most people know how the rule is interpreted, enforced, and most importantly how the rule will be applied to them is how they have applied the rule in the past under similar circumstances. If the rule – and its application – is that the NCAA can do whatever the fuck it wants and there are absolutely no guarantees or even general standards, how are people supposed to operate under it? Masoli was operating well within the rules – as it had been applied – and sweeping the rug out from under him without actually amending the rule in question isn’t fair. The whole point of having rules is so people know what they can and can’t do, what is and isn’t permissible. And they make plans and take actions accordingly.
Especially since the exemption for Masoli is basically “people who were high-profile, and had their transgressions plastered all over ESPN for months.” How is that fair? And how is anyone to know where the line is, for people going forward?
by omb on Sep 2, 2010 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
With all due respect..
See below regarding the “precedent”.
You could also say the exemption for Masoli is basically “people who were kicked off their teams, have a year of college eligibility left, but are trying to find a way to avoid sitting out a season by rule and are taking advantage of an available exception, by waiver, that was established for very different reasons.”
The rule is simple: Transfer and you have to sit out. Masoli was looking for an exception to that rule by waiver. He was not entitled to that waiver, and the NCAA decided he didn’t merit one as an exception.
Are they making an example of him? Maybe, but that’s their right as well. If he was some kid who got kicked off a Division II team for various legal infractions and wanted to transfer to Slippery Rock, maybe he would have gotten the waiver, maybe not, but chances are we would never have heard about it. Masoli made himself a celebrity, and made himself notorious. That’s his cross to bear.
And how is anyone to know where the line is, for people going forward?
Oh, please.
The line, going forward, is easy. Don’t be a fuck-up.
(PS – I’m still waiting for someone to show a similar situation to Masoli’s that was handled differently by the NCAA.)
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
False
He was not entitled to that waiver
he fulfilled all of the requirements: graduate, and enroll in a grad program that your former school doesn’t have.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
He was not ENTITLED to transfer.
It’s not an entitlement if you have to apply and have your case reviewed. Are you sure you go to South? Back in the day, they were known for academic quality.
You can say that in your opinion, he “should have received” the waiver, or you can say that he met the requirements for the waiver, but if it was automatic he wouldn’t have NEEDED a waiver.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
The NCAA has treated it like its automatic though
I think this is the first time under the rule that they have said “no” to anyone requesting said waiver.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Simply put, he surely used the rule to try and play this season, not get a masters. But 99% of the players in ANY NCAA SPORT who do this are in it for the play, not the school. And yet the NCAA allows this to happen a ton. Greg Paulus is my favorite example, he transferred to the ‘Cuse to play football, not for any sort of masters degree. Masoli followed the rules, and there’s plenty of precedent for the waiver to be granted. Yes the system is broken, but this isn’t how you fix it.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
But Paulus wasn’t kicked off the Duke football team for violation of rules. It’s not the same situation at all.
And as for this happening “a ton”:
I haven’t seen a single example of another case like this one where a player is dismissed from a team with cause, finds another school that offers a degree program not available at his old school, enrolls in that school and petitions for a waiver of the sit-out rule. Have you? Please provide links.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
links were provided either above, or in yesterdays quack fix
I can’t remember which.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Here
Cooper is a 6-foot-10 center who played his final collegiate basketball season at Alabama-Birmingham. Cooper started his career at Oklahoma State. After two years in Stillwater, he transferred to Louisiana Tech. Cooper sat out his first season in Ruston, per NCAA transfer rules. Cooper played 15 games as a redshirt junior before Bulldogs coach Kerry Rupp dismissed him for an unspecified violation of team rules. In 2009, with a degree in hand, Cooper transferred to UAB so he could obtain a master’s in health education. He also wanted to play a little basketball.
The NCAA granted a waiver to Cooper, who, like Masoli, only needed a new school because he’d been booted from the team at his old one.
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Did Cooper also plead guilty to theft and then get busted with pot?
I'LL BITCH SLAP YOU WITH ROBERT SWIFT!!!
by My Name is Bryce on Sep 2, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay. I still say the NCAA has every right to enforce something like this on a case-by-case basis.
Do we know anything of Cooper’s interest in health education prior to the transfer? Do we know anything of the circumstances of his dismissal other than the unspecified violation of team rules?
For the record, I might have made Cooper sit out a year. But I don’t know any of the facts in that case (other than those listed). And Cooper did miss roughly half the season after being dismissed; maybe the NCAA figured that was enough of a sit-out.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Hey, lookie at who made the "Super-Sleeper" list on ESPN
Jeremiah Johnson, RB, Houston Texans. Star-crossed Steve Slaton suffered a turf toe injury Saturday against the Dallas Cowboys, and has been seen in a walking boot in Texans practice. That certainly confirms Arian Foster as a fantasy starter, but it also gives Johnson, an undrafted second-year player out of Oregon, a shot to be a pure No. 2. (Rookie Ben Tate is out for the year with torn ligaments in his ankle and a broken fibula.) Johnson is a Slaton-sized player without Slaton-level quicks, but he’s looked like a better player than Slaton through three preseason games, and he apparently easily passed Chris Henry on Houston’s depth chart. Slaton says he’ll be back for Week 1, so I’m not so bold as to say Johnson is Foster’s handcuff; Foster probably doesn’t have a pure handcuff right now. But if you ignored the names on the backs of jerseys, you’d say Johnson was the second-best runner the Texans have, and in that offense, that’s not a bad thing. If Foster goes down or is ineffective, remember Johnson. And by the way, “Jeremiah Johnson” is a really good Robert Redford movie, too.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
So…it’s football season.
Are we wearing all green on Saturday?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 2, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions
That’s what I’d bet on. Green+Carbon jerseys, Green Helmets and Green or Black pants.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
I dont know if we're doing the Green-Carbon jerseys anymore.
I think we go the New green jersey with the yellow, Green helmet and green pants.
Q: How come Oregon State players haven't gotten in trouble for stealing anything from a frat house?
A: Who wants to steal a lunchbox?
by QuackQuackAttack on Sep 2, 2010 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm still confused as to if a change has actually been made.
At every press day where players were wearing game uniforms the uniforms had yellow numbers.
It made the uniforms look a lot more like the previous era’s.
My yoke is heavy.
I just kind of assumed that they announced the change and I missed it.
I really like this new yellow numbering a lot less than the old silver numbers.
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Home Opener
Tradition is to go all greens.
"I have a very strong distaste for Oregon State and Washington. Also Stanford.
This is severely OT
but i’m sorry, its just so fucking funny
here’s an excerpt (and this is from a real lawsuit filed today):
Jerry Buss accused me of raping him and Kobe Bryant in Boulder at JonBenet Ramsey’s house. Jerry Buss sold me Jeannie Buss on eBay and I was promised a Lakers janitor job when I get out of prison for less than minimum wage.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
(filed by a crazy prisoner-dude FWIW)
and the link really is NSFW
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Happy New Year!
With a boot from the leg of Presbyterian kicker Patrick Morgano, the 2010 college football season is officially underway.
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
Presby vs. Wake Forest!
Probably the best game of the whole college football slate this week.
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Hey Dave, football’s started, where’s the open thread :P
"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly
it was set to publish at 4
its up now.
--Dave
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I watched the replay of the 2009 UW game last night.
I was at the game, so saw the whole thing from the end zone, but this was the first time I’d seen the replay.
Some thoughts:
1. Locker didn’t look like all that and a bag of chips to me. He did show he could heave the ball 70 yards once or twice.
2. That #21 guy for Oregon is kind of fast.
3. That #8 guy at QB for Oregon was good. Too bad he had to transfer to a school that offered a graduate degree he wanted.
4. Matthews should have caught that tipped pass. Schmuck!
5. Giansante actually made a statement I agreed with — his comment at the end of the half that the situation with UW and the clock running out reminded him of the ’72 olympic basketball finals. At the game none of us had a clue what was going on, it just seemed like they kept giving UW the ball and moving them closer with no time left.
6. Cliff Harris needs more meat on his bones.
The west grandstand at UW isn’t a bad place to watch a game from, even though the field is like 100 yards away. Personally, I think they should replace that track with a moat.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
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