Quack Fix: Colorado will make it the Pac-12 next June, much ado about ASU
Sorry for the delay this morning, folks. Had a little too much fun last night. Anyway, better late than never. Here's your Wednesday Morning Quack Fix:
- The Pac-12 will begin in 2011 after all. Colorado announced its plans yesterday to settle with the Big 12 and join the expanded conference on June 30 next year. And it will only cost them a mere $7 million. I guess that beats the $9 million it's gonna cost Nebraska.
- According to ESPN's Ivan Maisel, former Oregon head coach Rich Brooks thinks the Ducks are beatable, specifically mentioning Arizona and Stanford as their biggest challenges. I agree wholeheartedly that those are going to be our toughest foes (as well as USC on the road). But the question is, which one are we more worried about?
- ESPN.com's Ted Miller wants to know: How "sick" are the Ducks, and can ASU stop them? And is Darron Thomas better than Jeremiah Masoli? He also posted some interesting Pac-10 numbers.
- John Canzano's column today pays tribute to the coaches that got the Oregon and Oregon State athletics programs to where they are today.
- The R-G's Ron Bellamy has an article on former Sheldon High School and current ASU players Aaron Pflugrad and Bo Moos and their added motivation for Saturday's game.
- The Oregonian's Ken Goe covers ASU's defense, while R-G's Rob Moseley covers special teams. Goe also takes a look at Oregon's injury situation, which is apparently improving.
- Head coach George Horton and the Oregon baseball squad have hauled in another stellar recruiting class, with this year's class ranked No. 3 by Collegiate Baseball. It's the third-straight year Oregon's class has been ranked in the top 25.
As always, leave any relevant links or comments below.
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Tell that to the withdrawal seizure I had!
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Rich Brooks thinks our national championship dreams are bullshit?
PANIC!
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
How DARE he say we might not be perfetc!
Haul his name off the Stadium Club, I say.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Nobody's perfetc, benzduck.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I was actually trying to pile on. Not correct.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Piler-on
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 22, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Stop talking about my dingy.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
by JShufelt on Sep 22, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was not talking about your dingy, just what’s beneaht it.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
by benzduck on Sep 22, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's been hanging out with the SEC too long.
Those guys are a bad influence.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
I agree with him until we prove otherwise next week.
Hoover: They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal!
Ted Miller linked to MattDaddy’s post about the defense on his lunch links.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 22, 2010 11:50 AM PDT reply actions
Deservedly so
that thing is awesome.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Yay MattDaddy
here’s a funny thing. The two author-bitchers Tako and MD are the only to ATQers to be linked on ESPN
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
THAT'S ONE BIG SMALL TIT
The correct way to feel about the other teams in your conference: "Lots of happy LSU fans giving us shout outs down here since FB beat Tennessee." ~ Duck volleyball Twitter
by AllSaintsDay on Sep 22, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That's Mr. Author-Bitcher to you.
Addicted to Quack, the home of Tako Tuesdays
Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
Since we're bringing up statistics...
You’re leading AtQ in: (and help me if I’m missing anything…)
Namedrops
Pointless comments
Indefensible comments
Meaningless Jersey Contest bragging
Causing readers to over-use the ‘z’ key
Luckily, you are in a distant race to overtake HRD in all time Reply Fails.
You’re in the AtQ Hall of Fame! And you deserve it!!!
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by axemen23 on Sep 2, 2010 9:06 PM PDT
My z button is broken
and I’ll be sending axemen23 the bill for the new one.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 23, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Yikes, too much NC title talk!
I keep heaing a lot of speculation and conjecture about the Ducks in the NC game, being a dark horse, that the conference SOS just improved, Alabama and tOSU being in regardless.. Oregon Duck football does not deal in hypotheticals.
Actually heard on radio last week:
1 – Talk show interviewer asks Brandon Bair if team has considered a NC run.
2 – Bair answers to the effect of yeah, that would be nice to get in that game, but we don’t want to get ahead of ourselves, cliche cliche etc. In other words, just as you’d expect him to answer — well-coached and honest and deferential to the questioner.
3 – Canzano plays bite from previous interview and — with this as his only piece of evidence — rails against the team thinking too far ahead, insinuations of arrogance, complacency, etc.
I turned it off before I heard him excoriate Chip Kelly for his loss of control of the player’s dreams.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
what does it mean to "consider a NC"?
Aren’t we supposed to play the games on the schedule and try and win them all?
by gamedaytribe on Sep 22, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Canzano?
Really railed on the team for looking ahead and being arrogant based on that comment? Why am I not surprised?
by Duckity_Duck on Sep 22, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions
So, we're down to 8 players for hoops practice..
Will Altman want to avoid contact and scrimmages this year, like Kiffin?
Seriously, this team is just a couple of injuries away from playing four-on-five, with Dana Altman as Gene Hackman as Norman Dale. (In which case, who winds up as Shooter?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
He was this super cool…hey, wait
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 22, 2010 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Cougfan…was seduced by the Dark Side of the Force. He ceased to be cougfan and became Brian Floyd. When that happened, the good man who was cougfan was destroyed.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
So what you told me was true, from a certain point of view.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
I don't think cougfan is really dead
I’m going to search for him when I’m up there in a couple of weeks. He’s probably tied up in this Brian Floyd guy’s basement.
ATQ's #1 benzduck fan
You're going to the game?
Where do you stay for games up there?
I mean, not specifically, that would be creepy.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Before Brian Floyd killed or unjustly imprisoned cougfan
Cougfan hooked me up with some good suggestions on hotels. Cause it ain’t easy to find one in Pullman on a gameweekend I’ll tell you.
ATQ's #1 benzduck fan
Yeah, I've noticed.
Only available room in Pullman is normally rented by the hour. They’re asking $165 a night.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
We might be paying close to that
I’d have to check my confirmation, but I know it ain’t cheap.
ATQ's #1 benzduck fan
Have you also tried Moscow, ID?
It’s not far away.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
Moscow is totally booked too
Or it was several weeks ago when I was looking. I think Idaho might have a home game that weekend too.
ATQ's #1 benzduck fan
Right now I'm looking at Lewiston.
There’s always Spokane, I guess, but it’s a good 90 minutes each way.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
That's less than $20 an hour... probably about right for Pullman
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes.
I’m looking at coming up for the game but it’s kind of last minute. We’ll see how it goes
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
He’s more machine now than man; twisted and evil.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Jeezus
Could you guys just PRETEND for a while that you aren’t the biggest Star Wars geeks known to mankind? Are you all wearing your Darth Vadar masks right now?
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by daisyduck on Sep 22, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Vader*
QED
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You're not helping your cause here.
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by daisyduck on Sep 22, 2010 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I think we should invest in a Vadar though. Then we can know when Darth Vader sneaks up on us.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
by JShufelt on Sep 22, 2010 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
This made me laugh way more than it probably should have. I have a vision of what this would be like in my mind, but I don’t think there’s any way I can write it that anyone will get.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
“Darth Vadar Masks” (sic)? Cmon Daisy. We’re not that bad.
Seriously, though, HRD, I’m gonna need my Yoda costume back before Halloween. And that includes the Boba Fett boxers.
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by Gorbachav5 on Sep 22, 2010 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
They were jammies!
They had Yodas and shit on ’em.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry, switched movies there.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Shame leads to fear. Fear is the path to the dork side.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Echo Base, this is Rogue 2. I’ve found them, repeat, I’ve found them!
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Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
Hilarious.
You are the best poster on the site.
May the Force be with you.
Waiting for Goducks
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, wait a minute.
Dump the one who defended you for a brown-noser like Musgrave?
I’m sad now.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Your emotions are appropriate, because you just got pwned.
This cracks me up, we’re all fighting like highschoolers… wait, wait… middleschoolers for the attention of fair maiden daisyduck.
Anyway, daisy: meant it, was not brown nosing.
benz: just write her a 50 page love letter about the history of love letters or something, you’ll be right back on track.
Waiting for Goducks
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Look, I don't know what kind of girl you think I am
but I’m not changing my sig for anything under 30 pages.
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
I think you're the kind of girl that's AWESOME!
How’s my brown nosing coming along?
ATQ's #3 daisyduck fan
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 24, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Really really well!
Others (who will remain nameless) could definitely learn from you.
But…who are numbers 1 & 2?
ATQ's #1 Gloating McGloatenstein fan
I think we are speaking of The Whine and Sir Whiney McWaaaaaaah...
…for both parts of your statement.
I just signed up for the ATQ “I’m a daisy fan” package and there were already so many people lined up, I had to wait on the phone for 2hrs and settle for number 3.
Gaddam I am really good and this brown nosing, I’m gonna try it at work. The advancement strategy I’ve been using has been to tell my boss exactly what I think of him, and that one hasn’t been successful, if I must be honest.
ATQ's #3 daisyduck fan
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 24, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Mine's a Chewbacca mask
It’s totally not movie quality, though…
i can't believe you survived on this blog --
by axemen23 on Sep 2, 2010 9:06 PM PDT
Implications of Pac-12 in 2011...
What this means is the new Pac-12 will start play in 2011 with two divisions and a conference championship game, instead of playing one year as an 11-team conference.
Now that we are officially in the last season of round-robin play, has anyone thought about how this will impact next season’s schedule? There’s no way of knowing if a two-division split will allow a fair distribution of games, and the pac-10 team scheds for 2011 can’t change, unless the league goes to 8 games and gets a lot of cooperation with the teams. If the P12 sticks with a 9-team schedule, there’s no way Utah and Colorado can get 9 conference games each. Is there?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
the pac-10 team scheds for 2011 can’t change, unless the league goes to 8 games and gets a lot of cooperation with the teams
I’m not sure what you mean here. Obviously, the Pac 10 schedules (other than OOC) are going to change. I don’t think there’s any way around that.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
That’s what I don’t know — how many games Utah and Colo will have to add (I think each of them had a P10 team scheduled already next year), and more important, how things will balance out between divisions. But without knowing how they plan to divvy up the teams, it’s all speculation.
But as for 2011, there are certain games that certain teams will not want to give up — and some teams are going to lose home games, see existing bye weeks filled, etc. The resultant matrix will be 12-D, and have you ever tried solving one of those?
For example, we’re already playing Utah next season, away. With a 8-game slate, that’s one of our four away games, so we have to figure out whether Arizona, Stanford, UCLA or UW gets dropped from the schedule. Won’t be Udub, assuming we’re in the same division. Assume it’s Arizona (be optimistic). Now, Arizona is short a home game, and they were on the 4-5 split, so they have to pick up a new home and figure out what road game to drop. Etc.
With 9, it’s a bit easier but still problematic, in that it’s hard to imagine a solution that allows the teams who were expecting 5 home games next year to actually get them, unless Colorado and Utah agree to play a 4-5 split.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I would guess they will simply erase the slate of current Pac-10 games, including our game at Utah, and just start over from scratch. Could be a year of weirdness but I think everyone’s going to have to be OK with that.
Remember when...
the Pac-10 schedule wasn’t like clockwork like it is now, where you play USC every other year at home, etc? I think that we went 4 years without playing at Seattle at one point, and like 4 of 5 seasons we were at Wazzu. We’re probably going to be going back to something like that (with the exception of rivalry games).
KU fans-how I hate thee!
Yeah, it wasn't that long ago.
The full round-robin started in 2004, or around there.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
actually
it is really not difficult to put together a functional 2-division schedule, whether 8 or 9 games. It was harder w/ a 10 team sort of round robin… but even there, I think the schedule makers just did a crappy job of it.
And why do you think they wouldn’t fuck it up again?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Didn't you hear?
LARRY SCOTT IS GOD.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
because
it’s REALLY easy to put something functional together.
for instance, support it’s the simple N/S split (CA in south; JUST as an example). UO gets 3H/2A in odd years, 2H/3A in even years. For 9 games, you can do a 3-year rotation:
@ Cal, vs UCLA, @ Ariz, vs ASU
vs Stan, @ UCLA, vs USC, @ ASU
vs Cal, @ Stan, @ USC, vs Ariz
and just make it a permanent 3-year rotation. Never back to back @ against any opponent, you always play at least one against each "local pair", and in 3 years you play everyone twice, one home, one away.
For 8 games, just do a 4-year rotation like the Big 12 has done it, 2 years home and home against one set of 3, followed by 2 years home and home against the other set.
“Zipper” schedule setups are a bit more complicated, but they’re probably doable as well. I could rig one up if you’re curious.
just an example
specifically, a REALLY simple one, that doesn’t need to take into account any sort of cross-division protected series or any other complications. as I said, it’s not that bad to rig one up for various other potential setups.
If they do this, my guess is that they go to the “pod people schedule” or whatever the hell they’re calling it.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Would this be AKA the California Zipper?
WA – WSU – OR – OSU – Stan – USC in one division
Cal – UCLA – AZ – ASU – UT – CO in the other
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
scheduling for that
becomes a bit messier. Presuming intra-division slate:
(tie to current rotation)
Odd
vs Wash @ WSU vs OS vs Stan @ USC
Even
@ Wash vs WSU @ OS @ Stan vs USC
You’re going to then want to keep away from having two home games or two road games against either Bay Area or LA. Moreover, there’s a pretty good (not absolute, but pretty good IMO) chance that you only get ONE game every year against the non-divisional CA schools (since they’ll probably get annual games against one another, and that’s how the math shakes out given 9 league games). You could do it by having:
2011
@ Cal, vs Ariz, @ ASU, vs Colo
2012
vs Cal, @ Ariz, vs ASU, @ Utah
2013
vs UCLA, @ ASU, @ Colo, vs Utah
2014
@ UCLA, vs Ariz, vs Colo, @ Utah
2015
@ Cal, @ Ariz, vs ASU, vs Utah
2016
vs Cal, vs Ariz, @ ASU, @ Colo
2017
vs UCLA, @ Ariz, vs Colo, @ Utah
2018
@ UCLA, vs ASU, @ Colo, vs Utah
In 4 years, you get 2 games against Cal and UCLA, and 3 games against the others. But to balance the number of home and road games against everyone (4 years gives 2/1 or 1/2 splits vs Ariz/ASU/Colo/Utah), you’d need an 8-year rotation.
This. Everything’s going to get scrapped and start fresh. Why will that work? Because Larry Scott is going to tell everybody that they’ll be swimming through piles of gold, Scrooge McDuck-style, once the new TV deal comes through in 2012.
So if you have to take a hit because you’re getting 4 home games two seasons in a row, just buck up and take it because you won’t know what to do with all your money the season after that.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
right
Cal @ Colo and UO @ Utah MAY be conference games in 2011, but then again they may not. If not, they simply go away. I’d suspect there’s going to be a bias towards putting those two on the schedule, but I could easily be wrong.
I don’t know why you wouldn’t leave them on the schedule. Makes the rest of it a couple of games easier, although it does mean Oregon and Cal need to find new nonconference opponents on short notice. Hello, Portland State again.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
unlikely to be a priority
Yes, they COULD make Cal @ Colo and UO @ Utah league games in 2011, but if that makes things difficult otherwise (due to various other scheduling arrangments, division structures, etc.) then I’d presume no one would really be too pissed off if they went away (or got reversed) instead.
The issue is definitely the OOC
And it becomes especially bad if they decide to go to a 4 game OOC schedule. In that case th pacKrt will be collectively funding the athletic budgets of the Big Sky and WCC.
Ah Football, how I've missed you!
by AcadianTraverse on Sep 22, 2010 2:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No kidding.
We’ll have to pick up two nonconf games next year if they go to an 8 team slate.
PANIC!!!
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
this is why 4 Non-Conf games a year would be easier in the SE, they have The Sun Belt, Big East, ACC and Conf-USA (Did I miss anyone?) to choose from as easier FBS level schools. We have the WAC and MWC and UNM and NMSU can’t play every Pac-10 team every year.
Well, the Big East and ACC are AQ conferences, so, not sure they count (since all FBS schools are drawing from the same pool of available NC teams).
It’s more that there are just more schools on the east coast. I think.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I don’t understand why anyone even interviews him any more. He’s sooooo dry, and he refuses to engage in any BS banter that these media guys want to get involved in. He doesn’t even joke about it.
I love Chip, and he’s very well-spoken and intelligent, but he’s just not the right type of guy for these interviews.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I think for him,
he really does pretty well on the DP show – better than most media interviews anyway. This one is a little more dry than others I’ve heard him do with DP, but he still cracks wise a time or two.
ATQ's #1 benzduck fan
Yeah, I think DP knows what he’s like so he’s okay with the dryness and the interviews are a bit smoother. I’ve heard him on a couple other radio shows where the hosts are your typical sports talk show wise-asses, and the interviews always involve long, awkward pauses because Kelly absolutely refuses to play along.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I find the fact that he gives them the verbal "stare"
hilarious. Every comedy act needs a straight man.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
Good god...
I have a serious man-crush on CK. He cracks me up and he’s an awesome coach.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
by M. Fletcher on Sep 22, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
There were more holes in that Canzano article...
than a slice of swiss cheese. Dude should have done his research before writing that drivel. To wit: “Oregon was #2 for an eyeblink”-no doubt referring to 07, completely forgetting about 2001.
KU fans-how I hate thee!
Pretty much par for the course
No reason to give that asshat the clicks…
by Andomania on Sep 22, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So George Horton hauls in yet another "stellar recruiting class".
yawn How long will we put up with Horton’s under-achievements?
We have been to ONE College World Series since 1954! How many schools would put up with these results?
And by now, Horton’s playing with his own recruits. He can’t blame Mel Krause any more.
When will the headlines finally read “Horton Hatches The Egg”?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Really?
Seems like it would be another concession to the Cali schools, who are already being pretty demanding. Not to mention that Sam Boyd is more suited for a very lower bowl game than a high profile conference championship game…
KU fans-how I hate thee!
But I would so much rather travel to Las Vegas than any of the other places in November.
axemen23: the human vuvuzela
by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
What you said. Vegas is the easiest airport to hit in the country. You can get there nonstop from damn near anywhere in the West.
My only problem with Vegas is the minor detail that although the game is there, the Pac-12 has no Nevada schools (and hopefully will stay that way). Seems the championship should be played in one of the member states. Just sayin’.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
They renovated it to seat 40,000. Yeah, that’s not going to work.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
The sad thing is
I’m probably not ever going to a conference championship game (unless it is in Seattle) because I’m going to want to go to the Rose Bowl 3 weeks later. I’m just not that rich. Seems like that might be a bit of a problem with this championship game thing – but other conferences make it work so I’m sure we will too.
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It can be SUUUUPER cheap to fly in to Vegas. ($200 round trip/person).
Of course, if I had a family, spending $200 on gas and lodging in Seattle would be better.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Seattle would be good because they would never have to worry about a local school getting an unfair home field advantage.
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
by trumpetduck on Sep 22, 2010 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I wouldn't even need lodging in Seattle
since my brother in law lives there. And the truth is, I don’t really want to take my kids to Vegas. You know why.
But pretty soon they are going to get resentful that they keep getting left behind – they didn’t get to go to the Rose Bowl because the school only allocated me 2 tickets. Sorry boys, Mommy needs her quack fix – you’re with grandma and grandpa AGAIN.
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Are you kidding?
What with the legalized prostitution, cigarette smoke-filled casinos, and complimentary alcoholic beverages, Vegas is a GREAT place for kids!
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I vividly remember when Vegas went through its “Let’s appeal to families!!!” phase. Within a few years, they built The Excalibur, The Luxor, Treasure Island, MGM Grand. My family took us quite a bit during those years. Then Vegas collectively smacked itself in the forehead and thought, “What the f*** are we doing? This place isn’t for kids! We make money off of adults looking to ESCAPE their kids. New marketing campaign, NOW!”
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Completely remember that marketing campaign, you're right, funny.
The next phase was (and is) “What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas” with the really suggestive commercials hinting that something really unconscionable just happened (woman with bachelorette gettup and ‘what did I do’ look with friends snickering away), what a stark transition.
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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2010 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Circus Circus.
The first casino designed for families. Amusement park on the roof, clowns in the halls, etc. RV park on the grounds.
IMHO, the lousiest joint on the Strip that hasn’t been imploded by now.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I wouldn't need lodging in Glendale.
My mother-in-law lives in Peoria, right down the street. Let’s play it there.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
See, I feel the opposite. I’m betting tickets for the conf champ game will be like half the cost of Rose Bowl tickets, AND I can make a little vacation out of it. It would probably cost about as much for two tickets to the Rose Bowl as it would for two tickets to the conf championship, a two night stay, travel, and all that other junk in Vegas. But I live in LA, so I’m in a different situation than almost everybody else.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Winter room rates in Vegas are obscene already
Add in the Special Event premium, and I bet it’ll be just as expensive.
Weeknights you can get rates for $40, and weekends around $100. That’s not obscene, IMO.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
The Monte Carlo, for example, was offering weeknights for $37 in December. I think weekends were just over $100. Sunday nights were like $50.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
It’s not the cost of the hotel room that gets you in Vegas. It’s those self-imposed taxes on hope that turn a $300 weekend into a $1000 weekend.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
That’s true, but I have a remarkable ability not to let that happen. I play poker or blackjack only, and any winnings go into my pocket and don’t get gambled with. I understand lots of people DON’T do that, but I don’t find it that hard to stay on a budget in Vegas.
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similar to my sports betting
I put a certain amount in each month, and whatever I win goes stays on there until the end of the month, At the end of the month, I take off the extra and start with the same amount again. I dont add any money except for the same 2-digit number on the first of the month.
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
I worked for a slot machine manufacturer for a couple of years and spent several weeks in Vegas each year. That’s where I learned how to have fun and stay on a budget: I play one game (craps), make the same bets every time (bet the don’t, lay max odds on points, play at third base, make friends with the dealers so they’ll remind you if you miss something, tip the cocktail waitresses, sit back and watch people throw their money away on center table bets and scream things like BABY NEEDS NEW SHOES!!.. start with $100 and play til it’s either doubled or gone) and get most of my entertainment by watching people.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
At some point I’d like to get into craps, but I have too much fun playing poker to be motivated to do it. Plus I’m not really entertained by drunk people for more than a couple of minutes…unless they’re calling and raising on flush draws. I have heard good things about playing craps though.
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I feel like i won't be playing anything but Hold 'Em when i turn 21
I mean, it actually has some skill/strategy involved
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
I’ve seen some amazing things at craps tables. It’s not so much the drunks — they blend into the background after a while — but the curious theories people have with regards to the game itself, most surrounding around the idea that somehow the odds of rolling a 7 with two dice can change according to some mystical forces of nature.
But without delusions of beating the house, those houses would never have been built.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Craps is definitely the only game worth playing.
Social value, everyone usually rooting for each other, or against each other and it gets noisy, fun.
Don’t pass line /don’t come line/don’t come line with as much backing as they will allow is essentially the best odds in the casino, save video poker when using perfect mathematical strategy (zzzz snore zzzz), and save a skill game like poker where you can affect your own odds if you have skill. Pass line/come line/come line is the next best odds. Center table is indeed for suckers.
In conclusion, best or near best odds in the house, most camaraderie or disdain, most energy, most fun.
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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Craps is a fun game i'm sure
but you can’t play it in the basement or garage with friends and bullshit for 3 hours on a saturday night in the middle of july.
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
You mean like Magic: The Gathering?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
by benzduck on Sep 22, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
you obviously haven't sat in my friends garage
playing poker with quarters when it’s 95 outside and guzzling powdered gatorade out of the football cooler
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
hahaha, "recommended"
Waiting for Goducks
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2010 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Axemen23 Weekly Football Trivia
I was asked to make them harder, so…here goes.
Who is the Oregon gridiron alumnus who has won the most Super Bowls and/or NFL Championships, What years did he win them, and who with?
Bonus points if you can find his stats from those years.
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
If it was just the Super Bowl, that’s an easy one — Mel Renfro. But I have a feeling you threw that “NFL Championships” in there for a reason.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
My wife and I play D&D with friends every Sunday night and have a lot of fun.
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Seriously?
So jealous.
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by AllSaintsDay on Sep 22, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep. We love boardgames and we love sci-fi fantasy so we figured why not combine them. It’s a good time.
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Does anyone play in Eugene? Anyone?
The correct way to feel about the other teams in your conference: "Lots of happy LSU fans giving us shout outs down here since FB beat Tennessee." ~ Duck volleyball Twitter
by AllSaintsDay on Sep 23, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Great minds think alike.
I almost always bet the don’t. I will occasionally get funny looks or snide comments from drunks on the pass line or boxcars who somehow think it’s my fault if they seven out.
If people could do math they’d think twice about some of those bets. Odds on rolling 12: 36 to 1. Payout for the wager: 30 for 1. It’s written on the damn felt.
If you can play 21 with perfect strategy and make max bets on the right tables with the right rules you can approach odds parity. My problem is that I don’t have the level of concentration required for perfect strategy, so, Mrs Benzduck plays blackjack while I throw dice.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Ya, the blackjack odds can be good depending on the table rules and decks, but I find it less reliable than craps tables (and less interesting).
Fucking video poker is the one you can almost always count on being a true 50% / 50% arrangement, or no worse than 49.5% / 50.5% (depending on how the house has programmed the machine) if you play it perfectly mathematically, and remember not to kill yourself out of boredom in the meantime.
Waiting for Goducks
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Not really, if you play the mathematical strategy religiously and know how to check the odds on a given machine..
The odds by law have to be determined by the pay table and can be read by the player off the schedule.
The overall house odds for all the machines have to be at a certain level, very near 50%. This means that if they program some machines to be duds, some are pure winners. End result is that they shift them a little, but not too far from 50%.
Casinos do reprogram odds of machines on schedules based on the the foot traffic in the area, in order that busier areas have worse odds… but it means that somewhere else there are machines with better odds. By law, they have to list it. Just play a machine with better odds per the schedule, often right at 50%, usually no worse than 49.5%.
Waiting for Goducks
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, but do remember not to kill yourself out of boredom, too.
Waiting for Goducks
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
but it can't be any fun whatsoever
the point of playing card games is the human element and interaction. thats what makes it so outstanding
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
No disagreement here, MOST BORING GAME EVA.
You said “shifty”, which is different than boring.
You can get fucked if you don’t know the laws or how to find the odds on a given machine. If you know that, however, you can put yourself at the best mathematical odds in the casino.
Unless you are Rainman, which in your particular case, you are.
Waiting for Goducks
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
And stay away from the nickel slots.
The higher the denomination, the better the payout.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I save nickels for years
and then take them to Vegas whenever we go and play nickel slots until they’re gone. Just for fun, I don’t really expect to win. I’ll play dollar slots for a while, but then begin to feel like I might as well go out into my backyard and have a big old money bonfire just for kicks. Mostly I play blackjack on the low spender tables.
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OK, you can play the nickel slots.
I’m just watching out for you, even though you dumped me for that damn brown-nosing Musgrave.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I didn't dump you
You graduated. Congratulations on all of your hard work and success!!
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Note that this is *casino* video poker, and not Oregon Lottery video poker.
I don’t think you can play perfect in Oregon and break even. Can you?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Yes, sorry, was talking about Vegas casinos.
I think oregon machine payouts are somewhere around 90%, maybe 92%. So not good at all. Hey, we should all support education, right?
There are machines in Vegas, particularly off strip casinos, where the theoretical odds are actually in your favor, like 101%. But there might be a machine right next to it that is the SAME GAME but with different odds, so you just gotta read that pay table and do the math so you know the machine odds before you waste your time and money. Then you gotta play perfect, and try to ignore hours of boredom passing.
I freaking hate video poker, just learned this stuff when my dad was working for a security technology company that got contracted to a Vegas casino. Interesting stories.
And then these days, it’s really not about the strip casinos anymore either, they often use lesser payout machines employ the 7/5 or 6/5 machines nowadays because they know that most people aren’t reading the pay table and .
You want to look for a 9/6 “jacks or better” machine.
Odds at an Oregon machine are like 45% or 46% (or I really should say "the payout is 90%-92%), depending on the game, and then only when you play perfect, of course.
Here’s what wikipedia
Fact: While VLTs and the Lottery’s central computer system are constantly communicating, the Lottery’s central computer can’t make changes to the way specific VLT games play, nor can it make any changes to payout rates. Software located within each VLT controls all information specific to the games, including their payout rates and their randomness. This information is completely independent of the central computer and cannot be modified remotely from Lottery headquarters. Any game specific changes, such as changes to payout percentages or game features would require new game software from the VLT supplier to be physically installed into the terminal. Lottery does have the ability to perform some functions from the central system, such as deactivating a game or terminal(s); however, such action would only take place if the integrity of a game or terminal has been compromised.
Waiting for Goducks
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 23, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Ooops, meant to shorten that and take out the cut/paste so you didn't need to read another Musgrave novel..
Wikipedia and any number of game websites list odds for various games (but note any vegas casion can and do change them).
The second last paragraph is cut/pasted from the Oregon lottery site, which says it does not change the odds, but they are not good in the first place.
End degenerate gambler info, now.
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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 24, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually...
the ACC conference championship game is a joke, mainly because they play it a pretty good distance from the schools that compete in it usually, and secondly because ACC football sucks.
KU fans-how I hate thee!
All the championship games suffer from things like this
They also all have Bridesmaid Syndrome. Just like Daisy describes above, if you’re going to choose between Pac-10 champ. game and Rose Bowl or MNCG? There isn’t a choice at all.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Really?
Out of the BCS conferences that have a conference championship game(3), the ACC is the only one that I’ve seen that really struggles. The SEC and Big 12 are always sold out, or else very close. Its probably going to be hard for the Pac-12 to duplicate that success, due to the large geographical footprint of the league, unless you have it in #1 seed’s home stadium/rotate it.
KU fans-how I hate thee!
The Big 12 champ game has never been a smashing success. (Omaha fishwrapper article.
The SEC is a bit of a special case in that it’s in a region densely populated with football freaks. And it has an NFL stadium ready-made for it in Atlanta, which is the travel hub of the South.
The ACC sucks. It’s a basketball conference. But at least it’s a densely populated region that’s relatively easy to travel within
I guess my point is the Pac-12 is going to be probably going to have a unique problem with its championship game. It doesn’t have the rabid fanbases of the SEC, it’s spread all the hell over, and in 6 of the 12 college towns, the weather is going to suck in Nov/Dec.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I think we're both trying to make the same point...
that the Pac-12 is facing an uphill battle with the conference championhip game. I just think that putting the game in a city where there isn’t a Pac team within 5 hours, and currently has a crappy stadium, isn’t the best idea. Just my opinion, though.
KU fans-how I hate thee!
agreed, but the added draw of Vegas might work … I would rather spend 3 days in Vegas than Glendale, AZ
I'm thinking along these lines
I think you could get enough or the mroe casual football fans in general to travel to Vegas as opposed to Seattle. The diehards are going to travel regardless of location, but to fill a big stadium, you need a destination.
But yeah, Vegas would need an actual football stadium.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
anywhere BUT Grimdale!
College--the best nine years of my life
by AZDeadHeadDuck on Sep 22, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
To me the stadium is a dealbreaker.
To pull a big game off like this you need a nice community right around the stadium to hang out and party in the weekend of the game. Sam Boyd isn’t that. It’s at least a 20 minute drive to the Strip, for one thing.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
This is along the lines of what I was thinking. Vegas is the kind of city that would pay for and build something like a brand new, awesome football stadium just to lure something like a Pac-12 Championship game to their city. And if they want, charge UNLV and the Vegas Bowl (or whatever it’s called now) and maybe even that USFL crap if that’s still around to play there the rest of the time.
It’s not like the olden days, when you could build a stadium like Autzen in 18 months (this actually happened).
Or like the really really olden days, when Oregon could contract with Florida for a game in Miami, in December, that hadn’t even been constructed as of June (this also actually happened).
Megastadiums like this take 3-4 years to put in. Minimum.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
You’d get it built, but all the tailgaters would have to take place on the freeway.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
How impressive this is depends on which Pac team you’re talking about.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I was referring to driving from LA. If you’re not leaving on a Friday afternoon/evening, you can go 85 all the way to Vegas. It’s fine because the Chippies are pulling over the people going 95.
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Seems like Ponch might take a bribe, too.
Gotta get him to talk to John, though.
Waiting for Goducks
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2010 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
If you don’t go to the conference championship game, the Ducks won’t go to the Rose Bowl.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Of course.
This is a given. Just as if I do go and spend all my money, we’ll be Pasadena bound.
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I'm still a fan of rotating the game every year to a stadium in each state.
If that means less people can go every year the game is at Autzen, then so be it. As much as it pains me to say it, I don’t see how they’re going to sell out most of the bigger venues in the conference anyway, unless the home team is playing.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
That's a pretty wide rotation.
WA – OR – CA – AZ – UT – CO
No Fair! cry the California schools. Colorado only has one team in the Pac-12 and they get the game just as often as we do!
Although there is an advantage for the Washington schools; it’s only once every six years their fans will need to be reminded their teams aren’t in the game.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I'm sure California would have a problem with this plan.
But considering they’re probably gonna get their way with conference alignment, along with the myriad other advantages they already enjoy, it seems like they don’t need yet more preferential treatment.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
It's the entitlement mentality down there.
Kind of explains the whole fiscal mess they’re in. But mark my words, if California doesn’t get what it considers its share of everything, somebody’s getting sued.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
It's more the result of a state constitution
that says a budget needs to get 2/3ds to pass, and Prop 13 really screwing up property tax revenue.
Panic alert is redlining...
1) Threet can actually throw the ball
2) their runningbacks can run
3) their linebackers can tackle
ONOES!!!!
More cause for O NOES
Moseley and Ken Goe reporting that Barner doesn’t practice. However, paysinger, littlejohn and Paulson participate.
LMJ rushes for 800 yards, then.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Barner doesn’t need the practice. He’s pretty much got that DOMINATE thing down.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Chip Kelly cracks me up.
That interview with DP was hilarious.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 3:16 PM PDT reply actions
ITS THE END OF THE WORLD!
Mel Kiper has replaced Locker with Luck at the top of his big board. How can that be???
Well at least Locker was at the top for 4 out of 20 weeks
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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Don't worry, it's all part of a Five Point Plan
1. Locker goes to UW
2. Locker is overrated by all NFL Draft Lists ensuring a 1st round selection
3. Locker gets exposed as being not that good
4. Locker is still overrated, but just enough to be picked by the Seahawks in the 1st round.
5. Seattle sports scene = Officially destroyed.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
Seattle sports scene = Officially destroyed.
There’s a Seattle sports scene to destroy?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
The Sonics, Mariners and Huskies have all hit lows the Seahawks aren't matching.
Not without trying, mind you. But Seattle really needs #10 in ’11.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
At the rate things are going..
.. #10’s likely to be available at a significant discount.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
This would make me so, so unbelievably happy.
The correct way to feel about the other teams in your conference: "Lots of happy LSU fans giving us shout outs down here since FB beat Tennessee." ~ Duck volleyball Twitter
by AllSaintsDay on Sep 22, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Shocker
No one lives in that house any more. It’s abandoned with a big ol’ foreclosure notice on the front door.
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I am trying to find an official injury report...
they were healthy going into Wisc. but google doesn’t bring up anything current.
How hilarious is it that Oregon isn't even staying in Pullman the night before the Wazzu game?
Or the state of Washington, for that matter.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions
They're staying (what google maps says to be) 40 minutes away in Lewiston, ID
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
There you go
you should stay at the team hotel benz, follow them everywhere and be our roving reporter.
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Oregon's new transfer
Senior Jay-R Strowbridge 5’11" PG. Looks like he’s mainly a 3-point shooter.
"We have an attack mindset from the get-go. We're going to try to pressure you in as many ways as we can, from the tempo we play at to the formations we run." - Chip Kelly
Super, a shoot-first undersized point guard.
Does he have any conspicuous keloid scars?
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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 22, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Dunno. But his stat line rings a bell.
12 points, 2 assists, and 2 rebounds a game.
I hate people who are bandwagon ‘fans’ and apparently know nothing about the team.
Seriously, dude?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 4:33 PM PDT reply actions
This is referring to the last thing that he says in the post.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You mean this?
First year starter at QB and a weak defense.
A weak defense huh? Okay.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 22, 2010 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
..That's what I said, right?
“Weak defense”
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, it’s not as though the D has been tested yet. But at best he’s just assuming.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
I'd rather he stick to being a Florida "fan". Or whatever.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there a reason the spead is getting bigger???
At the beginning of the week the spread was 101/2 and now some have as at 12.
After the initial line is set it moves based on how people are betting. The line is getting bigger because of the people who are betting, a majority are betting on Oregon. The line will continue to move up until people stop betting on the Ducks. It’s kind of like supply and demand…except not.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 22, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Here’s more, in case you are interested.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 22, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably a lot of east coasters thinking the Ducks are going to continue to score a point per minute and thinking ASU isn’t going to do the same. I never bet on Duck games anymore. The last Duck game I bet on was Ducks to cover/win against fBSU last year.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 22, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Hasn't the east coast ever heard of...
Burfict??? And that got this true frosh rb that is averaging 10+ yards a carry.
Because the betting public, outside of Oregon, has no reason to think the Ducks won’t lay a good beating down on ASU. They don’t have enough emotional investment to care about Juju or O NOES or PANIC!!!!
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Either that or some really rich fusky fan is laying a lot of money on us in an attempt to anger Juju.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 22, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
You underestimate benzduck severely.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 22, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright Boise, I'm pissed
There’s a place in Boise that’s called the Boise Fry Company. Won best french fries in america. Reason? They fry the potatoes in duck fat.
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
Careful, that may upset Quinn
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
You're wrong, though.
First, we buy the finest and freshest potatoes available. Secondly, and oh so tenderly, we prep each potato, which takes up to five steps and a half hour. Thirdly, we fry the potatoes in natural, healthy peanut oil. Finally, you choose from our homemade seasonings, spritzers, and dipping sauces to coat your fries.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously
What kind of yuppie awful establishment charges prices like that!?
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
Is the Burger fried in duck fat too!? Is it!?
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
I don't know
the show i was watching didn’t seem to give a rats ass about the beef
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
Probably a burger with an option for Fois gras on top
Gilt Club in portland had something similar for a while
Between Tigard and Sherwood
There is a family farm and store called Baggenstos. We often go there to get our pumpkins in the fall. They have the BEST GARLIC FRIES that have ever graced a deep fryer. Yuuummmm.
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Garlic fries!
Now we’re talking. Leave it to the woman to reference a food that’s actually good.
I mean that in the most positive way imaginable, Daisy.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions
ah, garlic fries
because you certainly don’t go to Mariners games for the baseball
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I thought AT&T Park was the famous garlic fries stadium.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
This is wrong though. The best french fries in America are the sweet potato fries served at Club Venti on State Street in Salem. And you don’t have to go to fucking Boise to eat them.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
the best fries i've ever had were in Canada
This little shop in downtown Whistler, B.C. Unreal sweet potato fries.
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
Sweet potato fries are disgusting
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
This is the truth!
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
well in know where i'm NOT taking you saturday...
and Quinn’s on board as well FYI
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
Sweet. Thanks again for all of that
Is there a place in specific in Eugene that has good Sweet Potato fries or something?
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
Not that he'd care. He's a decent person that hates sweet potato fries, just like me.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
By the way, CaDuck, the best Chinese food near campus is a place called Maple Garden. Their fried rice is fantastic. It’s great to go with a few friends and share a couple plates family-style. We used to do that all the time. Great place.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Hey, sorry. I didn’t mean to tread on your turf. At least now he knows it was also recommended by someone else. I approve of your choice immensely!
Defending maligned chants since 2009
blarghsmlk a fine I forgive you <3
and yeah I love going there when I have a longer lunch to chill with friends.
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
am I not supposed to?
I wasn’t aware there were limits on sarcastic affections here on ATQ?
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
Over/Under
A week until he starts frequently using ;) ;D :O xD etc?
Lajackson: Shattering ankle bones since the invention of the ankle.
Maple Garden Mondays
Are a staple in my high school diet.
Lajackson: Shattering ankle bones since the invention of the ankle.
Gotta try The Jail for cheap, delicious teriyaki. I lived on that stuff the summer after my senior year when there was no chance I was using the scary stove in our non-air conditioned apartment. Yeesh, I still shudder when I think about that place. The apartment, not The Jail.
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions
i second this
and yet you guys are taking all the fun out of the list of good cheap eats i was going to give him. you guys dont let me do NOthin around here :(
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
We let you use proper grammar.
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions
well i can always buy booze
now if you want it done LEGALLY, we could have an issue
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Example 4204 why I will never take good advice from TennesseeQuackAttack8
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Sweet potatoes taste like rotten diaper shit
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Sweet potatoes taste like rotten diaper shit
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing you're the expert in rotten diaper shit flavor?
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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Don't judge
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions
He's not through school yet. Expert status comes with experience.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Hyperbole, party of one…your sweet potato fries are ready.
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 8:06 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You must have the order mixed up. I ordered the regular potato fries.
While you’re at it, bring me some malt vinegar to go with them.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Ummm…is that a weird Tennessee thing? Because it does not sound yummy.
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 8:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It's really more of a Midwestern thing, I think.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
And British, of course
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You do realize that mayonnaise is made from soybean oil and eggs?
Just checking.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you have a split personality or something?
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Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
Yeah, I sometimes become HRD
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Good mayonnaise is made with olive oil, not cheap soybean shit.
You can make your own. Try it sometime. Great garnish for rotten diaper shit.
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Hmm. I guess I like mayo on sweet potato fries, so I don’t really have room to judge.
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 8:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You do realize that mayonnaise is made from soybean oil and eggs?
Okay, just checking.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Your point being…? I’m certainly not defending my taste buds, but the ingredients aren’t my primary concern.
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions
It's just really, really, disgusting sounding. And tasting.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I agree with the first part for sure. I was at a Custom Burger in SF, ordered the sweet potato fries, and looked disgusted when they came with mayo. But I figured, hey, try anything once, and the results were beyond my wildest dreams. You know, the wild dreams we all have about sweet potato fries and mayo.
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I have dreams like that, but they usually involve naked cheerleaders.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Shit, benz, you have been downright horny in this thread. Talk about rubbing vigorously earlier, now this…you, uhhh, you doing okay in the bedroom department there buddy? Do we need to all chip in to get you a couple of those clawfoot tubs to put outside that they show in the commercials?
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by Gorbachav5 on Sep 22, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Does it strike you as odd that they have separate bathtubs in those commercials?
Not exactly how Mr and Mrs Benzduck like to get our groove going. Besides, it’s hard work hauling two tubs worth of hot water out to the beach.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
That is an almost-true statement. But the “almost” is a really, really big almost. Like an Oregon MOV-sized almost.
Kenjon Barner is an angel sent from heaven to make my heart happy.
by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
The Bacon-Chocolate Law
For any food, there’s at least one of (a) bacon or (b) chocolate which will improve it.
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by AllSaintsDay on Sep 22, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Malt vinegar on fries isn't just good, it's incredible. Better than ketchup or salt.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Vinegar+fries isn’t something I’ve ever considered. That’s all I’m saying.
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 8:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah. You won't see me dumping red wine vinegar or something on my fries.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I know. Still not in my realm of common pairings. Boy, does that sound like a boring realm…
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 8:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Almost the whole world
eats fries (chips!) this way! It is quite good actually. I learned it from travelling Canadians when I was waiting tables.
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It's really popular in Ohio too.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
They're stellar with good french fries.
Five Guys is the place to get really good fries with malt vinegar.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sure I’ve ever had malt vinegar. I can’t STAND vinegar. Even the smell makes me nauseous. But I don’t know if I’ve had the malted stuff.
Give me ranch dressing with my fries or give me death.
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Red Robin steak fries+ranch=heaven in a bottomless basket.
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously. I got to introduce my cousins to the wonder that is RR fries recently, and you would’ve thought I’d given them the key to the greatest treasure in all the land. Which, in a way, I suppose I had.
This whole thread is making my stomach growl, and my new kitten keeps running over to see what the noise is. Which is ridiculously cute, so whoo, food talk!
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by lovemyducks81 on Sep 22, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I dont tend to put chain food on my list of bests
but yeah those make it every time.
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
Sweet potato fries, when done well, are much better than regular fries. However, I have had them done poorly and can see why some may not like them. I had some at a barbecue place in Flagstaff, AZ that were amazing.
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FALSE
The correct way to feel about the other teams in your conference: "Lots of happy LSU fans giving us shout outs down here since FB beat Tennessee." ~ Duck volleyball Twitter
by AllSaintsDay on Sep 22, 2010 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, sorry, messed up the name.
Next to Great Harvest. Just down from the Brick.
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Hellz yeah. So is Pete’s Place. And of course Magoo’s. Magoo’s is the Rennie’s Landing of Salem.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
That's where I met my wife
They still have bluesy types bands in there on the weekends?
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
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Yeah I worked down in Salem for about a year and that was one of the few decent places I found to eat
Never tried the sweet potato fries though
Axemen23 Weekly Football Trivia
I was asked to make them harder, so…here goes.
Who is the Oregon gridiron alumnus who has won the most Super Bowls and/or NFL Championships, What years did he win them, and who with?
Bonus points if you can find his stats from those years.
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Easy.
Dennis Dixon. He just hasn’t done it yet.
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Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
So I guess he'll never play for Norv Turner or Marty Schottenheimer?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Hellz nah.
If he played for Marty Schottenheimer, he would hand the ball off on a halfback power play seventy times a game. If he played for Norv Turner, he would hand the ball off seven times a game.
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
"Hellz nah"? Is Vontaze's picture affecting your speech?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Definitely.
I threw cups of water at a group of Duck fans today!
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Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
Was it axemen?
In that case, perfectly acceptable. In any other case, shame on you.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It's weird.
Ever since I started acting like Vontaze Burfict, yellow flags have flown at me from all different directions.
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Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
I hope you never had a picture of Ben Michael Siegert up.
I’d hate to know what you’d start doing in that situation.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, Daisy
Vontze Burfict plays defense
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I should've said, "Whoopsie, Daisy!"
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 22, 2010 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmmm, yes
Logic fail.
But I still contend that Kenny Rowe might charge across campus and lay him flat, just on principle.
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Kenjon Barner will probably shatter my ankles with a super juke though
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Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
I heard about that. Seems like a waste of time, energy, and resources just to practice on for a few days.
My yoke is heavy.
Possible
But it seems to have gotten OSU a fair bit of publicity though. In that regard alone, it seems to be worth the trouble.
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Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
Took a great conference and watered it down with 2 totally unrelated schools (a good Mountain West team and the garbage of the Big 12). The Pac 10 was set up perfectly regionally, and had a round-robin, which was awesome. Colorado and Utah, woohoo!! That’s gonna generate major national interest! Not to mention the potential suckiness of Oregon not playing certain California schools every year. This could end up being a major fail.
I have to say, I am not happy about this either. NOT. HAPPY.
Bleh. fughhhwereee. Not. Happy.
by gamedaytribe on Sep 22, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Larry Scott couldn’t hear you. He was in the bathroom, wiping his ass with $100 bills.
I’m a fan because I like novelty. I like the new matchups and, while it was nice, I didn’t think there was anything sacred about the round robin. But mostly it’s about the money. There should be a lot more of it – way too much to worry about that other stuff. I’m fine with that.
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The round robin schedule is the Pac-10’s equivalent of “One Nation Under God” on the currency.
It hasn’t been here forever, anyone who flouts it as some intrinsic representation of superiority does so without really thinking about what it means, removing it doesn’t change the value of the product. But try to remove it and everybody goes bat-shit crazy. Oh, and it’s probably unconstitutional.
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by benzduck on Sep 22, 2010 10:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

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