The New and Improved Sun Devils? O Noes!
The consensus coming into the season was that Arizona State, a horrible team last season, would be equally horrible again this year. After blasting two FCS teams, and losing a squeaker at what we believe to be a good Wisconsin team, the narrative has changed a bit. Most people don't think that the Ducks are going to roll over ASU, and there is a significant number of people who believe that this is a losable game. It begs the question, what's different about the Sun Devils? Are they not who we thought they'd be?
The first thing that's important to note is that its hard to take anything meaningful out of the first three games. The disclaimer on Oregon's PlayStation stats the first three games has been the schedule-New Mexico and Portland State are horrible teams, Tennessee middle of the pack. Same can be said for Arizona State-beating that same Portland State team (54-9), Northern Arizona, and losing by one at Wisconsin. The consensus, or course, is that Wisconsin is good. But do we know that? They had their struggles with both UNLV and San Jose State. I think that Wisconsin is pretty good, and those close score can be linked to the fact that their offense isn't conducive to blowing even bad teams out, but given the Badgers schedule, its tough to make those conclusions just yet. Remember last year, where ASU outplayed and should have beaten Georgia in Athens, and both teams went on to be completely underwhelming. That said, the makeover could be very real as well.
ASU's defense last year was quite good, the 13th best defense in the country. But they lost an awful lot of starters (6), and there is some early evidence to suggest some slippage. They are currently 5th in the conference in total defense, a not so great stat considering those two FCS teams they played. The rushing defense has looked stout, giving up just over a hundred yards a game, and even limiting Wisconsin's power rushing attack to 4.6 ypc. They've had considerably less luck against the pass, languishing in the bottom half of the conference despite the schedule. They do have four picks, but three of those came against Portland State, who actually moved the ball through the air pretty decently on the Sun Devils. This still looks to be a good defense, but they haven't played at anywhere near the level they did last year. They only give up a little over two yards per carry, but the only legit team they've played put up 4.6 ypc (ASU fattened up on PSU's rushing offense, we saw how bad that was). Oregon's rushing offense is unlike anything they've seen this season, and they'll have to rely on speed moreso than containing power to stop it. Oregon can run the ball on this defense, especially after the Ducks loosen it up a bit by picking on their fairly porous secondary. I won't even get into pace and stamina this year, as Oregon's pace will be the polar opposite of Wisconsin.
The big change, of course, has been Arizona State's offense. Its been quite competent early this season. Although their backs They still don't run the ball worth a darn (only Arizona has fewer rushing attempts in the conference). Also, it seems like when they do run, they look to hit the corners and outrun guys. That worked against a Wisconsin defense that looked awfully slow, but its hard to believe that running east-west is going to be effective against Oregon's defense.
The most obvious difference is at QB. While the Sun Devils were a revolving door at QB last season, they have stability in Steven Threet, the Michigan transfer who leads the conference in total offense. ASU is running a version of the ‘air raid' spread this season, but instead of deep route, almost everything is short underneath stuff, utilizing receivers with great hands rather than blazing speed (see Aaron Pflugrad and Kerry Taylor). They've also utilized a lot of screens this season. I could see them breaking a big play or two on a screen where we have a big blitz coming or something like that. But, overall, this isn't a big play offense. It's a much, much improved offense, but it's a possession offense that has taken advantage of the weak (PSU, NAU) and the slow (Wisconsin, who allowed 17 to SJSU and 20 to UNLV). I don't see how the dink and dunk is going to produce big numbers against a defense as fast and physical as Oregon. You may string together a few first downs, but once one of those sweeps or quick outs get stopped for negative yardage, you're in a world of hurt. (For a visual primer of ASU's new offense, JediASU has a great YouTube feed with all of ASU's touchdown drives on it, here's a sample).
That's maybe their best drive of the season, and nothing on that film scares me at all.
An interesting thing of note is the pace at which ASU plays. Their spread is nowhere near as fast as Oregon's, but there's a good 17 seconds left on the play clock when they snap the ball. They want to hurry up and play fast. Fortunately, Oregon have a defense that's used to playing against someone who does that better.
Two more factors in this game. The crowd shouldn't be much of one, as ASU is excited at the prospect of topping 60,000 for this game (in a stadium that holds well over 70k), and you know that many of those will be Oregon fans. But the weather will be, as even with the late start, its expected to be nearly a hundred degrees at kickoff, and still into the 90s when the game ends. At least with the night game, the sun won't be bearing down on Oregon, but it will be interesting to see if the Ducks can keep up their pace the whole game under those conditions.
Arizona State looks to be much improved. They'll beat WSU and UCLA, probably Washington and should have great shots in some other games. But this isn't a team that's particularly powerful, fast, or tricky. They are good, but not great in any facet of the game. Oregon may not run them out of the building, but as long as Oregon doesn't turn the ball over, its not a game that should be particularly close, either.
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I will not say that the Ducks WILL blow them out, but I believe that the Ducks will score 50 or more.
This will be the first time this year that Oregon will play their starters for an entire game…..Maybe.
I don't know that the Ducks will score that many
but I don’t see ASU scoring more than 20, probably less than that.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 23, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think to many are calling this a losable game.
The spread is still 11 on the road – that’s significant. I think the argument is that this will be the best D faced to date.
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
How many tackles did Burfict get in the game last year?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
in bounds or our of bounds? they don’t keep track of all of his dirty, out of bounds hits and tackles
That said, I wouldn't mind having him as a Duck to add to the LB rotation.
Players with that kind of edge are great to have on your team and are no fun to play against.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
I think if you ask a Sun Devils fan, they'd tell you the scale still tips pretty heavily in his favor anyway.
Yes! Yes! In the face!
He was such a jack-ass
that he got flagged for a personal foul against Wisconsin and was getting smacked around by the O-Line every time Clay carried.
He just oozes Brian Cushing…to me, anyway…
Maybe Koa Misi and Jared Odrick would be Patriots if Bill Parcells wasn't Comedic.Sans's father...
by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Sep 23, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Well it really depends,
Are you counting total tackles or just legal ones?
oh and do....
twisting the opponents legs while in the pile get you any extra credit points?
There is not nearly enough PANIC!!! in this thread

"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
It’s huge AND it is a gif.
Well done, sir! WELL DONE!
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
…and he put a subject line so the high school curmudgeons don’t have a hissy fit.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 23, 2010 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I do pay attention from time to time.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
Loving It..
.need it for my screensdaver
College--the best nine years of my life
by AZDeadHeadDuck on Sep 23, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Failed on a two point conversion attempt?
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Sep 23, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
There's only one Pflugrad I care about

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
by Matt Daddy on Sep 23, 2010 1:44 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
...and she's on OUR side!
Advantage: Ducks.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
This is one of those times where a wonderful offer is prize is presented, but when you say “Oh, well, I’ll take her and her friend!!” they bring out someone that is a cross between Quasimodo and the crazy old cat lady that lived in the trailer park off of Danzig Avenue, isn’t it?
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-A-L-L-W-A-R-M-A-N-D-F-U-Z-Z-Y"
Didn't you know
He’s too busy playing Halo to be bothered with Amanda and her friend
Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack
Depth THE Biggest Factor
Close at half then our depth kicks in and the rout is on! My only concern is who get injured? Skill player or backup and what that means for next week.
I'm totally with you on this...
but I really hope we can avoid the injuries. After 2007 and last year, we statistically “deserve” a year with no season-ending injuries.
"KENNY WHEATON'S GONNA SCORE!! KENNY WHEATON!!--Jerry Allen, 1994"
2 things:
That is one dink-n-dunk offense. And Wisconsin has a really slow D.
KU fans-how I hate thee!
yep
both of those things really stood out in that video
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
While Arizona's (not to be confused with ASU's) offense surely had us on the ropes last year...
The drive in the video against Wisconsin almost encourages me coming into the game. Wisconsin looked dog-tired on that drive. They were never in the right place and seemed absolutely exhausted. Hopefully the heat won’t put our defense into that position early on in this game. If we can get ahead early (which we, admittedly, have generally had trouble doing the past few years), we could coast to a win. If not, we could find ourselves with the same discomfort that we had against Purdue, a similar offense, in 2008.
My yoke is heavy.
Ducks-34 Sun Devils-13
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 23, 2010 5:32 PM PDT reply actions
At about 5:33 in that video, I totally thought Brock Osweiler was Mark Sanchez at first.
My yoke is heavy.
I didn’t see anyone throw an interception at 5:33, so I’m not sure how you made that mistake.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Sep 24, 2010 12:06 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am scared.
I am not panicking nearly as much as I should! PANIC!
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
Ducks in the Caribbean
My O sticker brought out a “GO DUCKS” from a local @ a stoplight this morning. Ducks in Curacao!
No worrying about this one
This will not be a game. Party time by the end of the third. Go ducks!
The ducks make me smile as well as drink very heavily.
by Dakotaduk on Sep 24, 2010 2:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

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