Oregon forces 3 turnovers in the 4th quarter to hang onto a 42-31 victory against Arizona State
Oregon went into the desert expecting a hard fought game, and got just that. The Sun Devils fought for 60 minutes, but Oregon took advantage of ASU's mistakes, made a few big plays of their own, and after falling down 24-14 with 3 1/2 minutes left in the first half, outscored the Sun Devils 28-7 the rest of the way.
It could have been a much different story early, as ASU started moving the ball very well in the first quarter. ASU has 209 yards of offense, but managed just 7 points. ASU missed a field goal, turned the ball over on downs, and threw an interception for a touchdown to give the Ducks the lead after one.
The second quarter was a different story. Oregon's offense started to struggle, going three and out twice and throwing an interception, and ASU took advantage, taking a 24-14 lead.
But just as they did against Tennessee, Oregon stormed back just before haltime. In three in a half minutes, they drove for a touchdown, forced ASU to punt, and scored another touchdown to take a 28-24 lead at the break.
Though the Ducks fumbled the opening kickoff of the second half, they continued to use big plays to stretch their lead. They recovered an ASU fumble in the red zone. Josh Huff caught a long pass for a touchdown, and Boseko Lokombo picked up a dropped backwards ASU pass and ran it in for 6.
And then it was time to hold on for dear life. ASU never gave up, and continued to move the ball, but Oregon got 4 more turnovers to seal the game.
This was definitely one of the most bizarre games I've seen, and while the Ducks were able to pull out the W, a lot of weakness was exposed that is already giving Duck fans worry for next weeks game against Stanford.
After the jump, lets dive a bit deeper into the game and try to figure out just what happened.
First, let's take a look at the defense. They were like Dr. Jeckl and Mr. Hyde all night, giving up big plays over and over, yet making even bigger plays whenever it was needed. The secondary allowed open men all night long, but also made some great plays on thrown balls to break up passes or take the ball away. They were also flagged for numerous pass interference calls, though one was an abomination of a call against Talmadge Jackson where he had made a great break to intercept yet another Threet pass. Jackson had issues all night long, giving up some big plays in coverage, but he also had one interception (plus that one that shouldn't have been called back).
Oregon's linebackers and line failed to contain the run adequately most of the night. ASU runners were continually getting into the secondary. Pressure was good at times, and the line was tantalizingly close to sacking Threet multiple times, but failed to contain and Threet took off on a number of good runs.
It's lucky that Oregon worked so hard to develop depth over the first few games, because they needed it last night. ASU ran 99 plays on the night in 95 degree heat. A ton of Ducks saw action on the defensive side of the ball, and though they were run ragged, they made the plays when it mattered. ASU was 9/20 on 3rd down conversions, but scored only 2 touchdowns and one field goal on 6 trips to the red zone.
But the big disappointment of the evening was the offense. The last time we saw a performance this bad by the offensive line was the BSU game last year, though to find such thorough domination you may have to go back to the USC game of 2008. Oregon was simply pushed around all night long. While many fans were screaming for Thomas to take the ball, he was making the right reads most of the night as ASU was having men spy on Thomas, which forced him to hand the ball off over and over again.
And while it was frustrating to see James run into the line over and over again (we'll get to playcalling in a minute), this is simply one of the disadvantages of having Darron Thomas at QB. Jeremiah Masoli likely would have taken some of those reads, as he had a belief that he could have beaten that linebacker, and would have adjusted his read after watching James fail a few times. Thomas, obviously, does not have that belief. If he sees a man guarding him on the read, he will be handing it off. He doesn't have the speed or strength to beat linebackers (especially ASU's linebackers) one-on-one.
Back to the offensive line, there's no other way to say it, they were manhandled. For a line that is this talented and experienced, this is simply unacceptable. James had no room to move all day long, and Chip Kelly dialed up the same read option play for most of the 2nd half, and we saw James plow ahead for now gain over and over.
When Oregon did get a little creative, good things happened. Play actioned seemed to be successful. One of the most successful plays of the game was a fake throw to the flat which the ASU safety bit on hard, and allowed Josh Huff to get open by a good 15 yards.
But these plays were few and far between. After Oregon took an 18 point lead, the offensive play calling got very conservative, and it seemed like the Ducks were playing not to lose. While frustrating, it worked.
Lastly, Jackson Rice had a spectacular game, as usual. He punted the ball 11 times, with an average of 46.2 yards per punt (and a net of 44.1). 5 of those punts were downed inside the 20. Rice gave the Ducks a big edge in field position throughout the day, something that was desperately needed when the offense was not clicking.
In the end, Oregon walked out of Sun Devil Stadium with its first Pac-10 win of the season, and the Ducks now have a lot to work on as they prepare for Stanford.
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I posted this in the second half thread also:
Gameday WILL be in Eugene. Let’s try to get more people there than Boise did.
Q: How come Oregon State players haven't gotten in trouble for stealing anything from a frat house?
A: Who wants to steal a lunchbox?
by QuackQuackAttack on Sep 26, 2010 9:08 AM PDT reply actions
Well there's the generation gap for you
I certainly consider 5:00pm to be a night game, and I am sure the partying will be in full force despite the “early” hour. Case in point: Halloween 2009.
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Which was, incidentally, also a top ten matchup with College GameDay in town.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m so happy for the time change. As someone that has to drive to and from Portland… 8:30pm kickoff is LAAAAAAATE.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
by JShufelt on Sep 26, 2010 12:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Same
Although we were staying over for the Stanford game since it started so late. Don’t know what we’ll do now since it’s earlier but since we already have a hotel, we’ll probably still just stay.
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Any video on the hit that Kenny Rowe laid on Cameron Marshall?
Aaron Brooks and I were born in the same hospital room. Represent Overlake Hospital!
All I have to say about that game is...bleh.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:20 AM PDT reply actions
Robert Smith is already calling the upset for next week. He thinks we go down and Bama goes down. I think he’s overreacting a little bit we played a physical game in 100 degree weather and still put up 42 points.
A couple things that I saw yesterday that surprised me were that Luck is only 4-3 on the road, I thought he would have a better record for some reason. Also that the most 100 yard games by a Duck is 14 by Stewart I was shocked by that at first but then realized he was a backup at first then he also shared time with Johnson but James has also shared time with Barner and is already close to breaking that record so I’m still surprised by it.
Honestly, I see us losing next week in a shootout.
Luck is going to pick our secondary apart.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm hoping for a little Autzen Magic to get us through
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
That'll help, but I dunno...
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Stanford wont run the same plays that tore us up. We do need to tighten it up, and not get beat at the seams, but ASU used particular motion to open up those seam routes. They called a great game.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
by JShufelt on Sep 26, 2010 12:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Stanfurd only scored two offensive touchdowns at Notre Dame.
They’re good, but not as good as their numbers look.
we should’ve lost. we got lucky. games at ASU are always strange for some reason. we still scored 42 points. our depth is our biggest strength. hopefully Kenjon will be healthy enough to be effective. stanford frightens me like no one else except Alabama. my random thoughts the morning after are now done.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Dennis Erickson is a genius.
What I saw was a typical Erikson team, nasty hard hitting defense, that plays on the edge of legality. How many personal fouls were called last night, on both sides? It was a brutal game, if not for our depth we would have lost for sure.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
I love how Kelly tactfully called them out on it
I caught it right away with his World Cup Reference
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
More importantly, we need to teach these sleepy college towns that have hosted GameDay this year how to make a sign.
any ideas?
- Oregon made Pete Carroll quit
- Welcome home GameDay
- GameDay has no clue where Corvallis is.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Hey Jesse Palmer: It’s pronounced OTTzen not OUTzen!
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
I wish that we could still watch MaZZollee play in Outzen Stadium.
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Notes:
I thought our defensive play-calling was a bit off. We were getting pressure and interceptions when rushing 4 guys. So why all the blitzes? It seemed like we got burned every time.
Did our o-line get worse this season? They weren’t good.
Jeff Maehl: hang onto the damn ball.
ASU’s fake injuries every time we had offensive momentum made me very angry.
Jackson Rice is a steely-eyed missile man. I love that guy.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Maehl had a VERY uncharacteristic game. He would be the last guy that I would expect to be dropping passes left and right. I don’t think the playcalling was that great on either side of the ball.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
But he made some great catches, too. Quite a few of his drops were bad throws..
by gamedaytribe on Sep 26, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
My theory is the heat factor... Sweaty hands make difficult passes even harder to catch
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake -Tyler Durden
…and when did Darron Thomas turn into Randy Johnson – circa late ’90s with the Montreal Expos? we had lots of opportunities to blow these kids out (and to lose). a win is a win is a win.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Thomas looked like he was trying to throw the ball 200 MPH.
He needs to calm that down.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he will settle down this week when he plays at home.
He didnt seem to have any problems with being unsettled against Tennessee, but now we are all realizing that Tennessee was probably a terrible team.
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
Yeah, they are really, really, bad.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of next week
Please get Andrew Luck up ASAP. Don’t torture us and make us beg. It’s undignified for grown adults to grovel like that.
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I cant do that until Monday.
Okay!? I just cant do it until Monday.
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
Is it part of the mojo?
Because then okay. But classes start tomorrow – don’t you dare get distracted. Take care of business first thing!
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Seriously. What does succeeding in school matter? Get a good job later in life?
Psh, who cares? Beating Stanford is way more important.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know we came to college to learn and study!?
I feel ripped off!
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
You go to college to party and go watch sporting events.
Don’t fret.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
No, you go to college to have a better network of friends to provide you with better pictures of opposing athletes to curse, for us.
Plain / simple, know your purpose.
ATQ's #3 daisyduck fan
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 26, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the play calling was looking ahead.
It seems like we still haven’t opened up the playbook that much and it seemed to me that chip was looking toward the stanford game to open things up a bit more. What concerns me most about next week is the fact that Stanford will have a great opportunity to figure out how to exploit us after watching that film. I see Luck throwing towards Talmidge Jackson III every other play trying to catch him face guarding or running as fast as he can to catch up after being burned. Lets just have faith that Chip will have the guys prepared and make the adjustments to get the win.
by oregonsportsaddict on Sep 26, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m going to be the dick that says it… but Maehl does NOT have outstanding hands. This isn’t the only game he has done that in. I like Maehl’s attitude and tenacity. He does a fine job as an Oregon reciever, but he wouldn’t start at most Pac-10 schools.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
by JShufelt on Sep 26, 2010 12:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I disagree, I think he had two bad games last year, and this one so far this year.
The rest – clutch in big situations, stellar hands, deceptive speed and yards after catch.
I don’t think he’s an NFL receiver, and I don’t keep track of enough other team’s receiving corps to know if he’d start at most of them, but there aren’t many I’m trading him for.
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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 26, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
He could have had a HUGE game had a few Thomas passes been just a few inches shorter.
Despite all the adversity, this team persevered, and pulled out a win in less than ideal conditions with multiple people playing poorly. There are obviously areas that need improvement, but there are good signs as well.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Maybe I expect too much from our receiving corps.
He doesn’t have stellar hands or deceptive speed. He has good hands and average-to-above-average speed.
He plays with a lot of heart and he is tenacious. He’ll make a huge effort to help win the game. I LOVE this about Maehl. I won’t go using words like “clutch” because I hate that word SOOOOOOO much, but he will be a solid receiver for Oregon in any game.
But he isn’t Terrance Scott, Bryan Paysinger, Garren Strong, 50/50 Jaison Williams, Demetrius Williams, Sammie Parker, or Keenan “Her Comes” Howry. I would probably take any of them over Maehl.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
Well, agree to disagree.
I think everything in this argument is purely subjective and mostly word play at this point.
I think he has better than “good” hands, the best on the team, and that’s why we tend to go to him in important passing situations. i’m terming that “stellar”, but ok, he is not at Steve Largent’s level, I’ll call his ability to focus and catch a tough ball “very good”. I think we aren’t afraid to throw it to him when he doesn’t have a lot of space to work, and he catches the majority that come his way, regardless of coverage. I think he makes these important plays and difficult catches most of the time, and that’s what many people would define as “clutch”. It’s really not important to the discussion whether or not you hate the word with an all caps level of disdain, and there’s nothing intrinsically more descriptive about your replacement “solid”.
I think he has a long gait, and this makes him appear slow to me. He isn’t slow, and this appearance / reality dichotomy is is what I am terming “deceptive” speed. He has “above average” speed as the 2nd fastest receiver on the team. I think this speed helps him come up with really solid, above average yards after catch, keeping separation on deep routes a good percentage of the time, and turning 10 yard routes into 20 or more a good percentage of the time, running by DB’s. I think youtube highlights are the only way to review this that I’m aware of.
I think huge touchdown catches at OSU, one reaching way out to grab it in the back of the end zone, and another pulling away from a DB on a long out route, are examples of both his “very good” hands and his “above average” speed.
I think somewhere around four catches in the drive to tie up Arizona were more than “solid”, and the bullet Masoli squeezed into his hands in the back of the end zone in OT was an example of great concentration and doing whatever is necessary to make a difficult catch in a critical situation. I think there are a lot of other examples.
I don’t think Maehl, on average, “has a couple drops a game”, I think he’s generally our most reliable receiver. I think he had parts of two games last year and this ASU game where he dropped balls that were really an issue on his end, not the throw he had to work with.
If someone published a stat ratio of catches to drops, or tough catches with degree of difficulty rating, or a comprehensive youtube compilation, then we’d have something reasonable to go by, otherwise it’s just this list of opinions in the end. I’d love to see some statistics that support either side of this, if such statistics exist.
The facts, however, do show him to be our leading receiver last year in catches, yards, and touchdowns (tied with Dickson for TD’s) last year, while Ed Dickson was in the mix. He was 8th in the Pac10 in both catches and yards last year, and he’s 5th so far this year in yards, 6th in catches. His career numbers on teams that pass less already better the first three other receivers on your list. In fact Strong’s entire career didn’t equal Maehl’s 2009 season, and Paysinger took 4 years to total about 5 more yards than Maehl’s 2009 season. Terrance Scott had only one real season, which was about 50 yards better than Maehl’s 2009, and it’s on pace to be surpassed this year. This leaves D Williams, Parker, Howry, and J Williams ahead of him. That’s exactly who I’d personally take over Maehl from that list… while cringing that I am still, still hoping J Williams will make his first catch since his sophomore season (hyperbole intended), and making sure I can take the early J Will out of the time machine.
Don’t get me wrong, if a Jerry Rice style hands/speed/height superstar comes around, great, I will unhitch and rehitch my bandwagon. I do not believe Jeff Maehl is the next Jerry Rice. I’m just saying this guy is a good deal more than a inconsistent “hard worker with a big heart”. He has very good hands, very good concentration, solid speed, and is our best receiver.
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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 27, 2010 2:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Clearly we will agree to disagree, and I know I'm in the minority...
And like I said, maybe I expect too much from our receiving corps.
I know Kelly like to have blockers at receiver, and I am completely dismissing that ability right now. I hear people always giving Maehl love, but he has never been great.
Your statistical points on Paysinger and Strong aren’t really definitive, because we spread the ball around a lot better when we had them, and they also had their ’07 season cut EXTREMELY early, and Strong had hardly any game time in ’06 because of nagging injuries. Clemens and Dixon had several very viable targets to pass to.
You know why Maehl is the top target? Because our WR recruits haven’t panned out.
Recruits since ’06.
Derrick Jones (Legal troubles in ’08. Never returned to the team)
Spencer Paysinger (Moved to LB)
Aaron Pflugrad (Transfered to ASU)
Terence Scott (JUCO; No redshirt due to ’07 injuries)
Rishard Matthews (Academically ineligible, plays for Nevada)
Garrett Embry (Kicked off team)
Tyrece Gaines (Academically ineligible)
Diante Jackson (Academically ineligible)
Braxton Lane (Left to play Baseball)
That leaves the following recruited players:
Lavasier Tuinei (Starter)
Drew Davis (Starter)
Nick Cole
Blake Cantu (Who has had nagging injuries)
Josh Huff (Significant playing time; I have high hopes for Huff, but this is his first year.)
I just can’t help but think most of us look at Maehl with duck vision. I view Maehl as a good target, and pretty reliable. But comparing him to other “top targets”, he leaves something to be desired. He isn’t as good as most duck fans prop him up. I don’t even think he has a chance as an undrafted free agent in the NFL.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
Like I said, I don't believe he's an NFL receiver.
However, I’ll take him over every single guy on your list above. I’d certainly love it if Tuinei, Davis, Huff, or any of the current staff made him look second rate. The fact is, every injury, academic problem, over-saturated receiving corps issue, or other excuse you’ve written for other receivers above relies on the hypothetical (h/t CK) assertion those guys woulda-shoulda-coulda performed better, making the idea that “he’s panned out because others haven’t” a long stretch. Who knows if any of those guys, healthy and eligible, would have been average, good, or great. Who knows if Garren Strong would have been all-world in a different situation. Who knows if the current guys will be average, good, or great.
We don’t know, because Maehl is the only one who has been catching first downs, touchdowns, and overall yards and catches at the productivity level of a top 8 (or better) Pac10 receiver for the last season and a quarter.
That’s not the result of “duck vision” by those who have a positive opinion of Maehl, those are facts.
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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 27, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I would probably prefer to have Diante Jackson, Tyrece Gaines, and Terrance Scott, with the exception of character issues to two of those three. I based this purely off of video
The “duck vision” I am referring to is purely based on the words like ’steller", “amazing”, “outstanding”.
If you have any of those qualities, you’re going to be putting Pac-10 leader results, and get at least SOME NFL talk. Maehl has made some great plays, and he has made some great catches, but it is the least I would expect out of any player for a program of our caliber.
I view Maehl to be like the receiver version of Andre Crenshaw. I want a LaMichael James or Jonathan Stewart caliber receiver.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
"I’ll give it my best shot, but you know I’m a signature ho." - daisyduck
Terrence Scott representing my high school! Woot!
Anyway, I imagine it’s tough for us to get a lot of high-caliber receivers based on our offense…
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 27, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
We’ve grabbed some high-caliber receivers. The problem is that they keep effing up. Ref: Tyrece Gaines, Diante Jackson
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
"I’ll give it my best shot, but you know I’m a signature ho." - daisyduck
Jackson was ranked 47th in the country at his position, Gaines was a JC guy...
Basically, my point is that we’re probably never going to get an AJ Green or a Julio Jones because wide receivers don’t get that many touches in our offense, compared to others.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 27, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Tacoi Sumler disagrees with you
--Dave
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I'm excited to see what he can do, but a bit perturbed by his size
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 27, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think that’s a very logical perspective.
If we have play makers, the ball WILL get to their hands. With Dixon, we aired it out tons. We got lots of passes off. Jaison WIlliams had tons of opportunities.
We don’t have a great sample size, but we’re passing it more. We’ve already had two games, which we had our first string offense in the third quarter, and we’ve had over 30 attempts in those games. WIth Masoli, going over 25 attempts wasn’t too common.
Also, the top receiver recruit in the country is rumored to have listed Oregon in his top 5, though he likely will be at USC.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
"I’ll give it my best shot, but you know I’m a signature ho." - daisyduck
Hey, I found one I agree with.
Agree to agree.
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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 28, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Sigh, you keep ignoring his actual numbers, in favor of your opinion of him, and your opinion of some adjectives.
Andre Crenshaw was not the 8th most productive running back in the Pac10 last year, nor 5th/6th this year, not even close, so this is a silly comparison based on your opinion of his skill level, nothing else.
So, while stellar, amazing, and outstanding might or might not be hyperbole, his numbers certainly put him in a category where these words aren’t ridiculous descriptors, while a comparison with Crenshaw is.
Preferring anybody on that list is certainly anyone’s prerogative, but none have produced like Maehl, so any assertion they are better is unsupported.
The ability to make the NFL has no definitive relevance to this conversation, the guy has been a very productive and therefore “outstanding” has been college receiver for us.
However, I now give up, and declare Maehl Sanchez.
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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 28, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
He can make great plays.
But he is NOT consistent. He usually has a couple drops a game. Sometimes they are difficult, sometimes they aren’t.
But if you are going to say someone has great hands, they need to make the difficult passes too.
This is not Maehl.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
Maehl is our most sure-handed receiver.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
This was the perfect prep game for Stanford.
Really, we couldn’t have wished for a better wake-up call.
ASU is playing pure-Erickson ball now: very, often too aggressive and relentless. They will win a few Pac-10 games. Not only that, ASU plays close to Oregon’s speed; I would put them as the second fastest team in the league after us.
But most importantly they keyed on LMJ specifically and the running game in general. Oregon had to win this game through the air and if it wasn’t for ASU’s overly aggressive offense allowing so many turnovers, the arm of Thomas is exactly what would have determined who would have won this game. The lesson here is that for the rest of the season we will be seeing opposing defenses load up against the run. That includes Stanford. Until Thomas shows that he can beat the opposing teams with his arm, teams won;t play us honest.
That’s only fair too.
Now Stanford is different then ASU. ASU is much faster; Stanford is bigger, more physical at the point of attack. But slower. On offense we will need to get to the outside of them and use a lot of misdirection, especially including play action passing. I am pretty sure we can do that.
The scary part, just like last year, is when we are on defense. ASU ran all over us, something that Tennessee hinted at and what Stanford and Ohio State did to us last year. Can our front seven step up? One thing in our favor is that unlike with ASU which ran hurry up like us and so did not allow us to situationally substitute, we’ll be able to do that vs Stanford. I maintain that part of Threet’s success is that he was able to throw into favorable match-ups with our linebackers or safeties guarding their big, fast WR’s. Versus Stanford we should be able to throw in more nickel and dime packages on obvious throwing downs. I also thought our defense reacted too much to Threet by blitzing so much, thus exposing our secondary.
But first we will need to stop Stanford’s running attack. We couldn’t last year and we lost. I know folks here love coach Azz but he needs to step up his line’s run stopping abilities. The DL needs to do a better job of absorbing blockers so our linebackers have clear access to the running backs, something that did not happen yesterday vs. ASU. Our DL is built to be a good pass rushing line; can coach Azz get them to read the rush better? The outcome of the game next week depends on it.
by ursula on Sep 26, 2010 9:42 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
OT, but how did everyone do in their jersey picks?
i had a nice bounce back week, going 4-1…I’m now 13-7 on the year.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:46 AM PDT reply actions
5-0 baby!
17-3 on the year
Lajackson: Shattering ankle bones since the invention of the ankle.
Ha. I've gone 4-1, 4-1, 1-4, 4-1. Week 3 killed me.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I haven't had one of those weeks yet.
Keyword yet. I’m just waiting for my downward spiral, I can’t keep this pace…or maybe I can? I hope so but it’s not likely.
Lajackson: Shattering ankle bones since the invention of the ankle.
That was such a sloppy win
But a win nonetheless. The defense should get the credit for that one, as they played unbelievably considering the cirumstances: desert like heat, 100+ plays, offense punted 11 times, forced 7 turnovers.
Lajackson: Shattering ankle bones since the invention of the ankle.
Don't know what game you were watching, but I thought our defense was quite underwhelming.
Outside of the turnovers, that is.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Our defense looked very shaky at times.
Threet drove down the field several times picking apart our secondary, which worries me for Stanford by the way, but the defense made big plays. Early in the game they stopped ASU on a 4th and 1 deep in the redzone, TJIII picked Threet in the end zone, Boyett had the pick 6, etc. Point is, Threet made mistakes, but the defense forced most of those mistakes, and they made stops when they absolutely needed to.
Lajackson: Shattering ankle bones since the invention of the ankle.
Andrew Luck probably won't make as many mistakes as Threet did, and that's what really worries me.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Andrew Luck is surgical
He is extremely accurate and has a great arm, I’m sure he won’t make as many mistakes as Threet. It’ll be interesting to see how well the ducks are prepared on Saturday.
Lajackson: Shattering ankle bones since the invention of the ankle.
I’m having flashbacks to ’09 at the Farm already. Dear God.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, there's no Gerhart.
But still, If Stanford lines up with 3 tight ends and two full backs and runs the ball down our throat I have a hard time seeing the duck defense consistently stopping that.
Lajackson: Shattering ankle bones since the invention of the ankle.
Yeah. Honestly, I'd be shocked if we held Stanford under, say, 35.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I would consider under 35 to be a victory of its own
by IslanderDuck on Sep 26, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
There is no question that Stanford will score a lot of points,
We just need to hope that our o-line plays well enough to allow us to score points too. If they play like they did against ASU, we are as good as screwed.
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Was this last year's Purdue or Arizona game?
Is this where we see the beginning of us raising our game or realizing that we have Nube for a QB, a D-line still can’t handle the power run and a DC that still think blitz – prevent – blitz – prevent is a secret to stopping any QB that can throw?
But I like the upset next week, and by that I mean we beat the furd!
Hoover: They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal!
good point. i’m still more confident in DT’s throwing that i ever was for Masoli.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
I'm going to spend the whole week fearing the Furd
I wish it wasn’t true, but it is. At least we’re at Autzen this year.
by IslanderDuck on Sep 26, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
“We beat ourselves,” Arizona State quarterback Steven Threet said after a 42-31 loss Saturday night. "There’s no other way to put it.
“It’s very disappointing to play well and make a couple of plays that cost the team a game.
or 8-10 plays that cost you. i’m not sure they teach math at ASU though so he’s forgiven.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Just...wow
Jon Wilner drops us five places on his AP ballot, to number 14, and has us below both Stanford and Arizona. So Arizona moves up by barely beating Cal at home in an offensive wasteland of a game, and we grit out a tough win on the road, scoring 42 pts, but Arizona clearly had the better win. Just speechless.
ATQ's #1 Takimoto fan
Honestly, if you're going by resumes, Arizona and Stanford both have better resumes than us.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
and he still has florida ranked high cuz their resume is so good i guess.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
I'm not saying that I agree with his poll. It sucks. Going on resume alone is insanely stupid.
And it’s even worse when the poll is inconsistent…just as you mentioned, Florida being that high if you’re going on resume alone is baffling.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
he pretends to go on resume but obviously is inconsistent w/ that theory. i love his rationale for finally not ranking James Madison. their win is still better than anything Florida has.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Miami’s vaunted schedule – beat Florida A&M, lost to OSU, beat Pitt. looks like top 10 stuff to me?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Just don't even worry about trying to rationalize his stupid ballot. It is what it is.
All the Ducks can do is win football games and let the rest take care of itself. No sense in worrying about what some idiot member of the media thinks.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
But seriously
Number 14?? I don’t think there is any justification for a ranking that low.
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I dont bother reading anything that Wilner "writes"
He is just one of a million sensationalist writer (is he a sports columnist?) looking for clicks.
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
Vontze Burfict, you're insane. There is no way that you have good karma.
He's Canzano's idol in sports writing, if that tells you anything.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Please, please DO NOT give JON SUCKY WILMER any clicks.
He gets eyeballs and clicks with his views. He lives on outrage motivating people to post. Don’t feed the troll.
Jon Wilmer is a sack of …
by gamedaytribe on Sep 26, 2010 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Re: The offensive line play.
Last night’s game was a totally unexpected display on our offensive line’s part. And not in a good way.
Considering our experience and talent on the line, that just shouldn’t have happened. Consequently, I’m inclined to blame the heat for the offensive line’s woes. There was simply too little spacing and movement on their part. They were slow to get off the ball after the snap and I don’t think I saw one play where they got to the next level of blocking. I don’t think we ran any power plays for James either, possibly Chip Kelly’s awareness of the heat exhaustion for the line made him want to avoid pulling guards for a play.
We will play far better in the Stanford game in our own climate, albeit against a far better team and a far better quarterback. I’m more confident about the Stanford game than I was before the ASU game.
My yoke is heavy.
by qrsouther on Sep 26, 2010 10:16 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
At least that was the last searing hot game we play in...
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
The student section at Autzen is searing hot?
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
by trumpetduck on Sep 26, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't see how you can be more confident about the Stanford game than you were before the game after the game.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't see how you can think this:
I’m more confident about the Stanford game than I was before the ASU game.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a composite of a few factors that make me confident.
We saw Stanford’s offense last year. They torched us. A big part of it was Luck, and another big part of it was Gerhart. Gerhart continually made huge runs out of what seemed to be nothing. The offensive line of Stanford pushed us around. Masoli couldn’t throw the damn ball the entire first half and we suffered for it. We let Stanford get out to an early lead in the first half, which was exactly what we couldn’t let happen if we wanted to win.
Stanford had amazing special teams play last year. Typically, for whatever reason, opposing special teams units have problems at Autzen. I don’t see those huge Owusu kick returns happening again.
This year Stanford is not playing us after a bye week.
We will be playing in weather more accustomed to our team, which normally goes without factoring in if not for yesterday’s game against ASU where the heat was clearly a factor.
Our offense should play better this next game, and our defense should be more prepared for Stanford’s attack this year than they were last year.
Stanford is super tough to defend, it’s true.
My yoke is heavy.
I left out a second clause to my last sentence there.
Stanford is super tough to defend, it’s true. But I think we’ll find they’re easier to prepare for the second time around.
My yoke is heavy.
I don't care if they don't have Gerhart. They do have the best quarterback in college football, and after last night's performance by the secondary, that scares me shitless.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
make them run the football
we’ve faced luck once so we know how to plan for him. All we can do is plan and hope the secondary shows up. I’m personally in favor of a CH13-Gildon starting tandem
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
I'm sure they'll run the ball, and probably effectively to a degree.
They have a better offensive line than ASU, and we got bullied by their O-Line for much of the game last night.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
You can be scared, that's your prerogative, I just personally feel more confident about this game than yesterday's.
My yoke is heavy.
Stanford Defense -- PANIC!
Stanford flat out scares me, and that’s also because of bad memories from last year. However, this year, it’s not their offense (which is scary good) BUT their defense that’s got me terrorized.
Their defense is OUTSTANDING. We’ll be lucky to score against them. Do not underestimate how tough it’s going to be to score on this Stanford Defense. Our offense has to step up a hundred fold. Our O-Line has to step up a 1000-fold. Else it’s going to be a long, long, horror-ridden night.
by gamedaytribe on Sep 26, 2010 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Stanford was up 19-6 against Notre Dame yesterday going into the 4th quarter. I think they are good, and they scare me. But people are talking like we have no chance and it’s amazing to me. You simply cannot just take the last game you played and predict what’s going to happen the next game out just because of it. If Notre Dame can hold Stanford to 19 points through 3 quarter, the Ducks certainly can do the same. Wake Forest scored all 24 of their points in the first 3 quarters with Stanford playing at home, which makes this statement silly:
Their defense is OUTSTANDING. We’ll be lucky to score against them.
Everyone is patting on them on the back telling them how great they are. The same thing everyone was doing with the Ducks last year going into this game and look what happened to us.
Maybe you are just being sarcastic, but I’m seeing a lot of people ready to jump off a cliff. Could we lose this game? Of course. Are we dead and have no chance? Hell no.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 26, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
No, I'm certainly not saying we don't have a chance
In fact, I’m hoping to win the game. I’m just saying, it’s going to be hard. And scary.
Their defense is better than the teams we have played so far. At least, as good as ASU, I think, if not better. I know our offense will score — everybody takes it for granted. All the concerns I heard was how hard it was going to be to keep Stanford from scoring. My point was that it’s their defense that’s going to be a bigger problem for us.
by gamedaytribe on Sep 26, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Just relax. Is it fun to watch football as paranoid as you are all the time?
Our team is in the top 5 and winning fun games. You’re not Chip Kelly think about the big picture and have fun watching a really good football team.
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
by trumpetduck on Sep 26, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wish it was that simple for me to do.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
I dont understand
Its football, just have fun watching.
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
by trumpetduck on Sep 26, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Because I'm the kind of person that has to analyze stuff and think about it...a lot
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Coach Kelly rec'd the book "Time Traveler'
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a great, great book. I loved it.
Superbly original, very cleverly constructed (it takes a great deal of skill to put together so intricate a plot, without giving away the point too early, and keeping the interest of the readers engaged). Just gripping in every way, emotionally draining, and lovely writing. Simply lovely writing.
by gamedaytribe on Sep 26, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
i think our DBs can lock up Stanford WRs especially if Whalen doesn’t play. Luck might have 4 TD’s but i think he throws a couple INTs also.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Stanford is just so tough to defend.
You can so easily blitz yourselves out of the game against Stanford. Luck will tear apart 1v1 coverage all night.
Not to mention, our run defense has looked extremely questionable at times against Tennessee, and against ASU. So we cant just play a lot of coverage oriented schemes, because right now we really do need another man playing up to stop the run. AAAHHHH!!
Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.
In other words, time to PANIC!
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually disagree with this....Talmadge Jackson is a walking PI machine
Gildon doesn’t look very comfortable in the coverage either
Eh, let's not be too harsh on Jackson. He's a really good corner. He's our best corner.
He gets PI called on him in the same fashion in which Jairus Byrd used to. He has his right to the ball, and often it results in interceptions. It also results in PI. I’ll take bad PI calls over long TDs or long receptions over our CB’s shoulder every time.
My yoke is heavy.
Dude, Talmadge Jackson is not our best corner. Cliff Harris is.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Then why doesn't he start?
TJ3 is the best corner, thats why he is number one on the depth chart. Cliff might have more talent and will be better, but he is not right now.
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
by trumpetduck on Sep 26, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Sigh..
Cliff Harris isn’t number one on the depth chart because he’s not in favor with Coach Kelly right now.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Cliff’s mental issues factor into his place on the depth chart. Talmadge is a better overall corner because of this.
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Welcome to the club, Cody Ross. You can stay at my house.
What the hell is it, then?
You haven’t been watching the damn games if you think Jackson is a better corner than Cliff. I’m sorry, but that’s the honest truth, and something that I will not budge on.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm just wondering how you know Cliff Harris is better than Jackson, while Jackson is our top corner on the depth chart.
Are you more in the know about our cornerback situation than the coaches?
My yoke is heavy.
He's a walking PI that can't even turn his head. I'm sorry, coaches opinion be damned, Cliff Harris is a better CB than Jackson.
I love our coaches, but a decision made by them isn’t automatically the best one. Coaches make mistakes in judgment.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Tell me, Quinn.
Why do you favor Jackson?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions
I give Jackson the benefit of the doubt because I trust our coaches' judgment.
We have a stellar coaching staff. Chip Kelly has already said it’s not a matter of Cliff “being in the doghouse” as people keep assuming. He’s already said that it’s about the two guys in front of (or, in Gildon’s case, trading off with) him having outperformed him. I’ll trust the coaches.
My yoke is heavy.
Exactly, and that's your problem.
Coaches aren’t automatically right because they are the coaches.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
And don't get me wrong, I love our staff.
We have one of the top coaching units in the country, but I just simply don’t see eye to eye with them on this.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I generally put more faith in the coaches who've watched the corners play for the past two months and made countless evaluations on their capabilities than a kid who's watched a few games.
My yoke is heavy.
Cool, great, I'm glad you do.
That’s your prerogative.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Meet each other by the flag pole after 4th period
It’s time to settle this like men and have a dance off.
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
He's not saying they are right 100% of the time.
But that’s not what coaches do. They plug and play these guys, based on their relative strengths and weaknesses depending on the situation. The most important part of that process is being able to evaluate and grade that talent, and used that talent in the right spots.
TJIII doesn’t play the ball as well as Cliff, he plays the man extremely well. Every time he was called for pass Interference, was because he was right there in the guy’s hip pocket and there to make the play. Sometimes, the right play is to interfere, but save the touchdown.
Cliff I think is more of a risk taker, he’s willing to jump out of coverage to get the ball. I worry that he may bite on the double clutch, pump fake to get him to bit then hit his guy wide open behind him. On the other hand he makes incredible plays, and has some kind of Spidey (Cliffy?) Sense, and makes great play.
I am not smart enough to know what’s the right answer, but that’s why they pay CK, Allioti, and Neal the big bucks, and we blog about it, but get paid to do other things.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
Coaches aren’t automatically right because they are the coaches.
That is true. But you have yet to provide a compelling argument for pretty much ANY of your criticisms. You simply make these grand statements with absolutely no explanation of reasoning.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Face guarding is not illegal
He doesn’t have to get his head around.
by Brian Floyd on Sep 26, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Yep.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I know
I’m just commenting on the perceived penalties stemming from face-guarding.
With the amount of pressure Oregon brings, the corners and safeties are going to be on an island quite a bit in games. PI will happen because of it. There really aren’t many corners at the college level that can sustain their play while being manned-up with no help.
by Brian Floyd on Sep 26, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes
Sometimes PI is the right play, it’s a momentum killer, but its no 6 points for the other side either.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
The issue with Talmadge's penalties is that these aren't TD saving plays
Nor or are they great throws for the most part….just him not being aware
If this was such a problem, then I doubt the coaching staff would continue to put him in that situation. Obviously, in the eyes of the coaching staff, TJ’s play is better than the alternative.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Who else are they going to put out there?
Gildon is very similar to Jackson but with less experience and ball skills.
Gildon actually plays softer than Jackson.
Jackson plays pretty tight, usually. He just doesn’t put his hands in the right areas.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
Its not about his replacement, but about general defensive schemes. The coaching staff keeps putting Jackson in man coverage despite his obvious limitations.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Nick Allioti has always done this regardless of the quality of CB's
In fact that was one of the biggest criticisms of him for a long time.
Once again, what is the alternative? Dropping back and playing zone? Then everyone bitches about “bend but don’t break.”
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Jackson is a decent (and most complete) corner who is good at run support and zone coverage
He man defense is below average at best. The problem is when Aliotti blitzes as frequent as he did yesterday, it shows talmadge at his worst
Jackson is our most physical corner who plays zone pretty well
His man defense is sketchy to say the least
Exactly. People need to get over it and realize that Cliff Harris is third on the depth chart for a reason that only the coaches know.
My yoke is heavy.
And no, it COULD NOT be because of his issues with being over excitable on the field and in celebrations.
Absolutely not, because Quinn says so!
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t Chip say so?
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 26, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
They aren’t on the same depth charts. They play different assignments.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
by JShufelt on Sep 26, 2010 12:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The problem I have with Jackson is that this happens all too frequently.
He’s great zone CB and great in run support but his man defense is scares the shit out of me.
He is pretty lousy in man coverage. You can't deny that.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
OT
when did Eli Manning turn into Brett Favre. terrible play.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
My thoughts
The offensive line was absolutely terrible. We got destroyed at the line of scrimmage. Despite that, I thought DT played very well despite getting knocked around. and having no running game He only had one pick, and a few critical drops by Maehl didn’t help things.
Yeah, the defense gave up a lot of yards, but I thought we stepped up when we needed to, which has really been the staple of our defense this year and last year.
ASU was a very athletic team; their freshman running back is a stud. I don’t think we played all that poorly outside of the offensive line soiling themselves, ASU is good. Threet has an arm, and was playing well until he started to panic and force throws. Our defense was opportunistic on the road against an offense that is extremely potent and getting better.
Also, the bad calls by the refs didn’t help. We’re looking at a blowout if the game is officiated fairly.
I am also less worried about Stanford given that we will be at home and fired up to play better. Stanford’s offense is a bit overrated at this point; I’m more worried about their defense being better than advertised. I don’t think Stanford’s WRs outside of Whalen (who will likely be out) and Owusu can separate, which will make coverage easier.
I’m totally concerned about the offensive line right now though. While we won’t face a front seven as good as ASU’s for the whole season, we looked VERY bad. This offensive line is starting to appear as though they just don’t have the talent to carry this offense. They were a weak link last year at times and they look about the same this year. That’s unacceptable given the experience out there.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Woo, Nevada is ranked for the first time in 62 years!
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Where are you seeing the coaches poll?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Yahoo Sports has it up, as do other places
by gamedaytribe on Sep 26, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, ok. ESPN doesn't have it up yet.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
#4 Ducks against #9 Stanford. It's a top 10 matchup, baby!
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
And in the poll that has Stanford ranked more closely to where they should be, it's 4 vs. 9.
really, who cares? It’s a matchup of 2 very good teams.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Nobody much gives a shit what I think and say and, I'm writing my too sense anyhow:
I’ve never been so proud of our football team, our coaches and our conference. Our opponents last night were good, very good. And they were inspired and resolved to win. Some of us fans were living in a fantasy world of meaningless stats. We seemed to expect ASU and other PAC 10 teams to just roll over and let Mighty Oregon come in and kick their asses for them.
I think that ASU used a great blocking scheme shuffle for their running game. Their new OC came in with some much deserved credentials and he flashed them to us all night long. ASU was a team that KNEW that they were going to beat us; their house, they brought their ‘heat’, their threat/Threet and a much better attitude for winning football than they’ve had in recent years. They’ve got BIG receivers and the kid can throw. And run. They NEEDED to Win.
On the other hand, we didn’t have our best game, Maehl and TJIII come to mind. And I think that our clipping scrapbooks were on display. And it was fucking hot! So hot that it was hard to think and especially after 2, 3, 4 hours of extreme punishing. But we won. In spite of all that other shit. We made fewer mistakes and reacted better than I could’ve expected under such circumstances. The officials were confused in the heat, really confused and it was not a good game for them. And we still won by two scores. And our men were gracious in victory. I do not underestimate the value of that evidence.
And, nobody really gives a shit what I write or not. But think that this was a great wake up call. I think that if our men get enuf rest that they stand a good chance against The Tree because they did find out about what PAC 10 strength is and that they are going to have to get ‘it’ and ‘bring it’ each weekend if they want to win it, Win the Day and the Championship.
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 10:49 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
Thank you
This is how I feel, well said. I am getting a annoyed by all the negativity around here and I think this is a great outlook on a road pac 10 win in a crazy environment versus a good pac 10 team. The guys can forget about all the crazy stats and start playing Pac 10 football.
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
by trumpetduck on Sep 26, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
survive and advance.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Yeah, and, it is a LOT more than that.
Think about mental toughness. Think about the importance of each tackle. Attitude about practice. Respect for team mate, opponent and self. Even about the importance of the weather and the fan. Even the fair weather fan.
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed
Too much hand wringing going on around here. Anyone remember the Utah, Purdue, and Arizona games last year? Or the UCLA game for that matter? Every game wasn’t perfect but the season turned out pretty well. It’s ridiculous to expect that every game is going to be a perfect example of execution in all phases of the game, or that every game will be a 30 pt win. Yes, we have some things to clean up and work on. Some things still need improvement over the course of the season. I don’t see any reason we don’t win on Saturday, unless CaDuck doesn’t change his pick to Andrew Luck tomorrow morning.
ATQ's #1 Takimoto fan
he needed to do it last night.
actually see if you can find a picture of both Luck and Harbaugh
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
Watch your damn language, Daisy.
There’s kids and shit around here.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
well than what does it mean if you think you're all grown up like the rest of us...
"Suck it CaDuck!" --Matt Daddy
You are not grown up, go back to www.ATQ-for-Kids.com.
ATQ's #3 daisyduck fan
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 26, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions
If you remember, you are porn, and thus that is an appropriate place for you to hang out.
Don’t catch any STD’s.
ATQ's #3 daisyduck fan
by Bill Musgrave on Sep 26, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe we could look at 'Luck' as 'Lucker'
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't really see this thread as hand-wringing at all.
I see it as being self-critical, which is important. We know the coaches are doing it right now. We know the team is. Why shouldn’t we be? I don’t think you’re wrong at all, daisyduck, it’s good to be positive. But I also think that if there’s one thing a Ducks sports blog is for after a sloppy win, it’s a place to discuss how we can get better and how to do what we have to do in the future.
Addicted to Quack — Dissenting Opinions Welcome.
My yoke is heavy.
I agree, and don’t want to seem critical of disenting opinion. I just sometimes think folks slide a little to quickly to an emotional reaction to things (panic!). Which is also their right to do…my advice is just to stay on more of an even keel and stay positive. I think it’s the secret to a long and happy life as a Duck fan!
ATQ's #1 Takimoto fan
by daisyduck on Sep 26, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
This is how I feel
so I gave you a rec
Go Ducks.....Ducks Go!!!!!
by trumpetduck on Sep 26, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
FAR FUCKING OUT!!!!
My first REC——- EVA! Thank you!!!!!!!!
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah quinn...give it up for the old guy,,,
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Iz that a kind of paint?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
fleeting? Iz that like an enema?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
OK, lucid. That ain't a requirement. q sez 'diversity is good on ATQ.
I wondered if Kelly was lucid last night at half time when he talked about the game being like the World Cup. And then somebody ‘splained it to me. But he’s different i know. You probably expect him to be lucid; me, not so much. Right?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Let's just say
that your puzzling vague ramblings are a large part of your charm.
ATQ's #1 Takimoto fan
by daisyduck on Sep 26, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well, that WAS sweet. You get a 'A' in Social Skills. I took the class Pass or No Pass.
btw, ‘Fleet’ is a brand name of enema sold otc.
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
…and hats.
And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 26, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I too think the whole "panic!!!" thing is stupid, but whatever.
I just think it’s healthy to be self-analytical, and I enjoy threads where we can discuss what needs to be fixed if we want to be better. I’m still positive; I said earlier that I feel more confident about the Stanford game than I felt about the ASU game. It’s just that I appreciate finally having a game like ASU where we show serious soft underbelly. It makes much better conversation than “WE RACKED UP 720 YARDS THE DUCKS ARE TEH BOMBZERZ.”
My yoke is heavy.
Too much handwringing about all the handwringing
Not to get all meta on you all..but c’mon, lighten up, everybody — we aren’t all the same people, and as I posted a little below this, it’s unrealistic to expect everybody to have the same approach and have the same feelings and say the same things and have the same opinions on everything, especially on something as important as your college football team.
by gamedaytribe on Sep 26, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great comment
This was a Pac 10 game, not PSU, or NMU. Let’s not forget, that Dennis Erickson is a great college coach. That team (especially on Defense) was exactly what I think of for a Dennis Erickson team, hard hitting and nasty. He does not coach pansies never has never will. Think about his Miami teams, or his OSU teams, they were beatable, but you are going to get your ass kicked regardless.
I happy we cam out with the win, and we certainly have stuff to work on. This was eye opening, but it shouldn’t be surprising. This is Pac 10 football people, it is a tough deal to win this league, no matter what those fuckers from the SEC and Big 10 say. Great win, now lets go to Autzen, and help our team win at home next week.
Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin
by QuackinAK on Sep 26, 2010 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was also fun to watch Erickson drop F bombs all game.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I can dig it. I can rec it later.
it’s spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-P-I-C-K-I-N-G-Y-O-U-R-N-O-S-E"
by JShufelt on Sep 26, 2010 12:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
and, I'm writing my too sense anyhow:
“but I’m writing my 2 cents anyhow:”?
Or was there some complicated subliminal Freudian thing going on there? And this is the Internet, where noone gives a shit what anyone says, but everybody writes anyway. That’s what it’s there for. Write away…(all puns intended).
Sigh...reply fail.
(slapping myself silly)
by gamedaytribe on Sep 26, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Glad you got the joke
both of them but, what about the content?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Good lord, you care about what I think? :)
But yes, nothing controversial there. We have a good team, and all dazzling stats aside, this was a really good game for the Ducks. As other people have said, a good reality check and preparation for Stanford. I don’t think too harshly of negativity, because it’s typical nervous fandom, and anxiety and paranoia are fun, too. Everybody has a different way they indulge their college football love, and their team’s adversities, and I don’t want to say what other people should be like. The diversity is a good thing.
We won, and that’s what matters. Win the day, Ducks!
by gamedaytribe on Sep 26, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
One thing I havent heard much talk about from last night's game
was the ridiculous amount of penalties on both sides. What were the final numbers?
It was all about the Heat
(in order to maintain my reverence for the non-sequitur)
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
by Famous Duck on Sep 26, 2010 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Talmadge Jackson - It's your senior season
They haven’t changed the criteria for Pass interference call since you’ve been here. If not looking for the ball in man coverage is considered acceptable cover technique, then you must be really bad at it because either you flagged for PI or completely lose track of everything else that is going on during that play and still get beat.
Also, turn your head.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
that PI call on the interception was a horrible call
absolutely horrible
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I just appreciate the fact that we are at a point as a program now where our “gut check games” usually end up as wins. Seriously, we are on here complaining about a win … it wasn’t that long ago that we would be happy by any win, no matter how sloppy it was.
Relax and enjoy our team, they’re a lot of fun to watch.
At least we're the same ranking in both the coaches and AP now
That’d be 4th, we jumped TCU
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I searched this board before I posted this and somehow completely missed the thread
oh well
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I think my favorite play last night
Was the Boseko Lokombo touchdown. Our players were all over that ball – very heads up and knew what to do. Bo picked it up and started to run it back and the other players immediately looked around for someone to block. But there was’t anyone else to block. Why? Because the Arizona State players had no freaking idea what was going on. They were completely clueless about what had happened on that play and that they were getting scored on.
To me this was a great example of our team’s superior heads-up play, preparation, and all around football smarts.
ATQ's #1 Takimoto fan
honestly
I think everybody (Fans and players alike) got so cocky after disassembling three low tier teams that we deluded ourselves onto thinking that all of the games will be this easy. We just got a bog wake up call. We got one of those wake up calls last year if I remember correctly (BSU). Though last year it was just preseaspn hype that had everybody so cocky that we underestimated fbsu. Just like we underestimated ASU
we need to learn from this and prove to ourselves that we are not the team that struggled/yesterday and when we are “on” we are the best team in the nation.
Launchpad
by Launchpad59 on Sep 26, 2010 12:09 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Being the best team in the country when we are "on" may be a bit of hyperbole, but I see what you're saying here.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Lol yeah should have thought about how I worded that
Launchpad
by Launchpad59 on Sep 26, 2010 12:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
rational fans weren’t cocky. coaches weren’t cocky. 19 yr old kid? maybe a little.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Yeah this isn’t the only blog I read and I saw a lot of 52 10 predictions for last nights game but yeah there were some “rational” fans out there too
Launchpad
by Launchpad59 on Sep 26, 2010 12:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
ASU is better than most people thought – not just Duck fans. i’m guessing thats why we were rewarded and jumped TCU in the polls.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
More likely the polls are penalizing TCU for a lackluster win on a night when they were the only game in town. My guess is the majority of the voters — especially the “coaches” — were snugly tucked into their beds to sleep off their drunkenness by the time the 2nd half had started in Tempe.
We’re #4 by attrition. Still counts for as much, though, so, go us.
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
Pat Chung with the INT in the endzone for the Patriots. Doin’ work.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
does anyone know of any recruits that will be in town this weekend?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
It's probably the biggest group all year in terms of quality and quantity.
The full listing will come out later, but I won’t post it for now because the information is on a pay board
So if you subscribe to a pay board, do you swear a pledge not to reveal what is thereupon?
"If you can't copy 'em, don't imitate ''em."
YOGI BERRA
It takes time and money to build the relationships to be good in the recruiting coverage game
So what’s their incentive to build put in the time and money when if things always get leaked to non-paying individuals as soon as they are posted? I am sure some people do it all the time but personally I don’t like it.
i assumed it’d be a big weekend.i didnt realize it was top secret info. i found what i needed for free:
Oct 2nd could be biggest weekend in Oregon athletics in a long time. Huge game. GameDay. 10 FB recruits, 3 BB including 5-star Wing.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Oh, Garrett Hartley.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 1:28 PM PDT reply actions
Did anyone else notice the Stanford fan at Rule Of Tree that didn't find TwistNHook amusing?
Pretty funny stuff. Its the one fanpost thats there.
Q: How come Oregon State players haven't gotten in trouble for stealing anything from a frat house?
A: Who wants to steal a lunchbox?
by QuackQuackAttack on Sep 26, 2010 2:28 PM PDT reply actions
pac 10 power poll
your first pac 10 power poll:Week 4: http://wp.me/pVda6-6a
OSU at #9? Seriously?
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 26, 2010 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
They go 5-4 in the PAC IMO.
UW, Cal, WSU, ASU I think are W’s. And I think they’ll take care of USC. They could also get UCLA at the bottom end of one of their manic-depressive cycles. Either way, I think it’s out of the question that they finish below UW on the face of it. The assumption being that WSU is a lock at the 10 spot.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Sep 26, 2010 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions
ASU Everybody will rip apart OSU’s terrible secondary
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Sep 26, 2010 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
here’s your 2nd Pac 10/12 power poll w/ no link to a blog:
Stanford – no reverse jinx i swear
Oregon – our 2nd team is better than your 2nd team
Arizona – i still have no clue if they’re good or not
Utah – can’t wait to see them play TCU
USC – its really fun ranking them this low
ASU – Dennis Erickson stole CK’s white visor
OS – DL good. rest of their defense? not so much
Cal – see Arizona
UCLA – i’m still not sure who else the beat in conference play
UW – see you boys soon
Colorado – can’t wait to visit Boulder
WSU – i can’t believe i thought you might win after that double reverse TD pass. silly me
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Here is how I am rationalizing the furd game:
1) There will not be as many WR to cover…
2) It won’t be a 100 degrees
3) The game is at home with a racuous crowd in our favor
4) ASU could be very good
5) The defense of Stanford won’t be as fast
Oh, shit, who am I kidding??? I am overcomed by ONOES and PANIC!!!
Off subject question...
I remember hearing that Portland State replaced a school that dropped off of Oregon’s schedule this year.
Who was that team? I cant remember.
Thanks to whomever has the answer for me.
I used to do quack, I still do, but I used to too.
Central Michigan.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Richie Igcognito update: starting for the Dolphins. hasn’t punched anyone yet this game. said in pre-game intro he went to Nebraska. phew.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
Considering that he never played a down for Oregon, and likely never attended a single class, why would you worry?
Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17
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