Lunch Pail U

by Gargen on Sep 5, 2010 3:57 PM PDT

As we all know, our orange clad rivals love to tout themselves as Lunch Pail U... as the team that find the recruiting gems in the rough and turns three star recruits in to five star performers. I gotta admit that subjectively, it seems to be pretty true, but my subjective brain seems to also remember a lot of Ducks outperforming expectations as well.

Not satisfied with the subjectivity, I decided to dig up a ton of data on recruiting rankings vs final rankings and compare it all together to find an objective answer to the question; Who is "Lunch Pail U"?. I initially set out just to compare the Ducks and Beavers, but decided if I'm gonna do it, I might as well do it right and include all of D1.

Methodology:

My recruiting rankings are the rankings off of Scout.com. I chose Scout rather than Rivals because Rivals only shows the top 50 while Scout shows all of D1. For my final rankings, I used Sagarin rankings. The obvious reason is because it ranks all D1 teams, but having a computer based ranking also stays in line with my objectivity goal. I had to cut three current D1 teams (FIU, FAU, West Kentucky) because they have not been D1 teams for the whole length of my data.

DISCLAIMER: Obviously, the results are not absolute. Different ranking services will result in different results so the difference between a few positions in the final Lunch Pail U rankings is well within margin of error, but it should give a pretty good general idea.

I cut and paste the Scout recruiting ranking from 2002 through 2010 in to a spreadsheet (shout out to www.OpenOffice.org). I then made an "expected final rankings" prediction for each school based on the recruiting ranking from the previous five years. To account for older years having more of an affect on the current team, each year was weighted as follows: 5th year = 25%, 4th year = 35%, 3rd year = 20%, 2nd year = 12%, 1st year = 8%.

These expected rankings were then compared to the final Sagarin rankings for each year. The Sagarin ranking was subtracted from the expected ranking. Positive numbers reflected outperforming the expected ranking while negative numbers reflected under-performing the expected ranking.

The need for five years of recruit ranking history means that I only have expected rankings for 2006-2010, and obviously the final 2010 Sagarin rankings won't be available until next January. Consider this the 2006-2009 Lunch Pail U rankings... the recent history Lunch Pail U rankings. Anyway, on to the results!

Results:

		Scout Recruit Rankings									Expected Ranking					Sagarin Ranking
	School	2002	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009	2010	E06	E07	E08	E09	E10	S06	S07	S08	S09	Diff	Diff/Yr
1	Navy	97.5	111	107	117	93	118	113	85	84	106.11	109.2	109.5	105.76	104.07	47	69	49	37	228.57	57.14
2	Boise State	75	73	72	73	78	57	64	60	97	73.7	71.97	71.11	69.43	67.21	6	47	12	5	216.21	54.05
3	Air Force	112	90	95	99	116.5	104	78	118	80	99.7	97.85	100.42	105.13	101.69	73	48	54	34	194.1	48.52
4	TCU	61	66	70	63	73	73	114	54	63	65.75	68.2	72.03	73.9	78.12	26	49	7	4	193.88	48.47
5	Cincinnati	95	84	75	70	70	80	51	53	61	82.15	76.05	70.93	68.36	66.94	43	19	34	8	193.49	48.37
6	Utah	84	95	68	71	60	66	65	55	50	81.17	74.23	66.97	64.15	61.7	46	34	5	24	177.52	44.38
7	BYU	46	59	55	53	46	42	57	40	22	53.19	53.48	51.1	47.79	44.16	13	17	32	15	128.56	32.14
8	Central Michigan	103	85	90	92.5	99	117	79	68	100	92.52	92.49	95.04	96.1	97.66	55	73	86	41	121.14	30.29
9	South Florida	103	108	43	54	56.5	45	46	25	52	83.15	63.23	50.03	49.8	46.24	31	20	42	38	115.21	28.8
10	Nevada	79.5	89	102	106	82	105	109.5	108	95	90.71	97.39	100.36	97.98	99.71	56	86	66	66	112.44	28.11
11	Hawaii	74	82.5	82.5	83	102	85	92	62	86.5	82	85.14	87.64	89.45	88.01	23	35	81	95	110.22	27.56
12	Connecticut	103	82.5	79	59	66	53	70	76	69	82.79	72.24	65.56	62.93	63.69	68	39	40	28	108.51	27.13
13	West Virginia	33	57	53	33	56.5	18	36	22	30	47.28	47.62	41.14	37.71	32.67	10	3	26	31	103.75	25.94
14	Wake Forest	58	42	61	60	65	63	67	56	62	53.8	56.69	62.17	62.87	63.38	27	28	25	54	101.53	25.38
15	Oregon State	49	56	34	51.5	41	40	61	48	67	48.11	44.32	44.41	46.39	47.57	20	16	13	33	101.22	25.31
16	Rutgers	41	69	45	67	63	28	42	29	48	56.48	56.2	54.02	51.76	41.27	12	38	37	40	91.46	22.87
17	Tulsa	72	109	77	82	83	92	86	73	91	88.03	87.92	82.47	84.11	86.19	62	63	41	88	88.53	22.13
18	Kansas	78	70	56	57	47	78	49	50	65	65.8	60.38	56.63	56.18	60.05	61	2	31	58	86.99	21.75
19	East Carolina	81	81	73	84	64	72	93	86	110.5	78.4	76.04	76.53	75.84	78.96	64	62	52	49	79.81	19.95
20	Kentucky	70	54	52	62	34	58	53	27	46	56.96	52.82	52.7	47.52	46.32	28	18	47	46	71	17.75
21	New Mexico	103	80	96	89	111.5	91	108	87.5	78	92.55	92.06	97.01	99.44	98.07	77	57	75	108	64.06	16.01
22	Wyoming	103	103	85	94.5	94.5	109	106	95	102	97.7	94.46	94.79	98.82	102.54	67	76	102	77	63.77	15.94
23	Boston College	55	27	42	58	44	50	22	81	43	42.08	42.33	47.36	49.02	46.06	25	23	28	43	61.79	15.45
24	Fresno State	52	64	110	92.5	96	68	60	70	64	76.18	89.96	92.04	83.13	73.32	89	59	76	56	61.3	15.33
25	Western Michigan	93	91	90	104.5	98	106	101	91	83	93.48	95.39	99.48	101.03	99.36	66	87	73	103	60.37	15.09
26	Buffalo	112	92	114.5	102.5	114	115	115	110	109	104.52	106.46	110.3	111.13	113.67	113	93	71	97	58.4	14.6
27	Oregon	31	44	15	30	52	9	23	26	13	33.91	29.21	27.57	32.34	24.91	35	8	11	11	58.03	14.51
28	Missouri	57	52	36	37	58	39	31	38	27.5	48.73	43.08	40.71	44.11	41.11	42	6	19	52	57.63	14.41
29	Ball State	86	105	104.5	109	81	88	102	101	89	98.71	101.39	99.2	93.52	90.69	88	74	61	113	56.81	14.2
30	ULM	112	116.5	112.5	110.5	109	112	91	82	113	113.26	112.64	109.32	105.66	103.53	101	83	108	98	50.87	12.72
31	Rice	112	74	114.5	113	94.5	90	98.5	74	104	97.92	99.72	105.76	97.07	92.03	81	112	46	112	49.46	12.36
32	Troy	112	72	74	68	89	64.5	76	71	86.5	83.28	73.34	73.92	75.85	75.47	75	52	65	65	49.39	12.35
33	San Jose State	71	88	111	104.5	91.5	102	120	92.5	75.5	90.61	100.89	104.47	100.35	99.72	58	90	92	110	46.32	11.58
34	Virginia Tech	45	21	26	18	31	25	20	41	37	28.44	23.67	23.6	26.03	28.38	22	9	18	7	45.74	11.44
35	Northern Illinois	93	106	99	97.5	104	114	118	105.5	103	100.17	102.25	102.8	106.18	110.4	79	111	89	87	45.39	11.35
36	Houston	43	41	84	80	69	61.5	77	58	55	57.02	68.85	76.34	70.33	65.54	53	75	50	51	43.54	10.89
37	Arkansas State	112	107	104.5	115	116.5	82	104	105.5	106	109.47	106.87	107.84	106.85	99.77	99	96	94	105	37.02	9.25
38	Ohio	97.5	87	88	91	103	110	105	96	118	91.59	91.91	96.05	101.08	106.21	71	92	101	81	35.63	8.91
39	Penn State	16	50	12	28	6	19	41	11	10	27.74	24.54	19.56	18.7	18.47	18	26	8	10	28.54	7.14
40	Middle Tennessee	88	98.5	81	61	111.5	95	88	83	107	88.92	86.16	82.34	90.48	97.25	80	85	97	59	26.89	6.72
41	Vanderbilt	59	61	62.5	76	61	87	74.5	72	54	62.6	66.61	70.83	72.45	73.56	60	53	39	94	26.48	6.62
42	Southern Miss	77	78	69	66	90	67	48	61	60	75.47	73.01	70.23	72.04	67.67	52	78	63	72	25.75	6.44
43	Wisconsin	53	36	37	35	37	41	26	51	33	40.41	36.67	35.9	37.1	37.56	9	36	59	23	23.08	5.77
44	Texas Tech	14	37	17	36	17	44	59	30	36	25.53	27.96	30.25	33.23	37.93	36	24	9	25	22.97	5.74
45	UTEP	112	113	117	77	100	96	73	109	81	108.19	104.28	93.56	90.93	92.76	91	104	80	99	22.96	5.74
46	Georgia Tech	51	34	35	48	49	15	37	32	41	41.33	37.43	40.11	39.15	32.02	32	58	36	12	20.02	5.01
47	UCF	73	65	106	78	87	61.5	66	59	56	78.52	84.31	83.86	74.89	68.04	95	45	96	67	18.58	4.65
48	Oklahoma State	32	29	33	64.5	16	24	40	45	18	33.77	35.54	40.11	34.93	27.24	41	27	20	39	17.34	4.34
49	Florida	20	4	8	11	2	1	12	21	1	9.48	6.32	7.33	6.77	5.85	1	10	1	2	15.9	3.98
50	New Mexico State	112	116.5	112.5	113	119	113	117	120	115	114.36	114.42	114.4	116.14	116.3	106	113	111	114	15.31	3.83
51	Kent State	103	102	116	110.5	113	89	100	114	114	106.95	108.88	108.96	106.1	102.2	102	108	106	100	14.88	3.72
52	Louisiana	79.5	114	109	94.5	106	116	111	119	110.5	101.4	107.55	104.33	106.77	112.42	104	107	93	102	14.04	3.51
53	Ohio State	3	25	11	7	13	16	4	1	20	13.58	14.34	10.04	10.06	11.37	4	11	14	6	13.02	3.26
54	Clemson	28	43	40	21	22	23	11	42	23	34.33	33.43	25.39	22.23	22.63	29	22	30	22	12.38	3.1
55	Bowling Green	97.5	98.5	82.5	100	75	98	107	87.5	85	93.35	90.34	90.95	90.69	91.75	110	84	78	84	9.33	2.33
56	Louisiana Tech	112	49	108	97.5	97	99	96.5	80	93	86.21	89.11	100.13	96.11	95.24	115	89	77	82	8.55	2.14
57	Temple	103	115	94	101	86	75	72	89	75.5	103.8	98.17	90.81	86.11	78.87	116	106	87	68	1.89	0.47
58	Texas	1	14	10	13	3	3	16	7	3	8.95	10.2	9.29	7.38	6.08	19	12	4	3	-2.18	-0.55
59	Alabama	37	45	19	16	18	22	1	2	4	32.16	25.02	16.67	14.98	12.96	54	31	6	1	-3.17	-0.79
60	Arkansas	24	23	27	32	30	34	24	20	35	25.69	27.92	29.95	29.78	29.4	14	25	60	18	-3.66	-0.92
61	Arizona	34	40	64	15	19	49	39	47	39	38.62	41.6	34.05	28.64	38.46	44	43	24	36	-4.09	-1.02
62	LSU	15	2	2	19	7.5	5	7	3	7	7.73	6.3	9.81	9.46	5.95	3	1	21	13	-4.71	-1.18
63	California	62	24	29	9	23	12	32	34	27.5	32.62	21.67	19	19.26	22.63	8	29	16	45	-5.45	-1.36
64	Northwestern	54	67	71	51.5	71	56	69	69	58	63.01	64.9	62.22	62.73	64.07	83	77	43	57	-7.15	-1.79
65	Oklahoma	2	3	7	5	7.5	30	13	10	2	4.15	7.5	9.64	12.24	16.34	16	5	3	17	-7.48	-1.87
66	Colorado State	63	77	59	96	80	83	94.5	107	90	72.42	75.34	81.87	88.5	87.99	85	81	68	96	-11.87	-2.97
67	USC	12	1	1	6	1	2	9	9	5	4.35	2.08	3.51	4.05	4.23	2	4	2	20	-14.01	-3.5
68	SMU	67.5	75	86	107.5	91.5	94	87	67	68	80.55	88.85	95.67	93.5	86.66	86	116	114	61	-18.44	-4.61
69	Marshall	97.5	93.5	87	86	72	71	81	92.5	79	90.58	85.35	81.25	78.02	76.47	90	100	90	74	-18.81	-4.7
70	Army	86	79	100	107.5	107	119	80	99	98	90.61	98.61	104.71	105.65	104.12	103	105	104	107	-19.43	-4.86
71	Nebraska	44	28	38	10	29	21	21	33	29	31.92	27.46	23	22.01	25.08	30	60	23	14	-22.61	-5.65
72	Michigan State	39	96	13	40	43	51	56	37	32	54.19	45.79	36.45	44.93	46.8	74	46	33	53	-24.64	-6.16
73	Iowa	40	30	41	8	40	37	44	75	45	32.86	31.21	29.01	34.68	44.35	51	71	22	9	-25.24	-6.31
74	Pittsburgh	25	39	47	42	11	8	25	31	17	35.22	36.56	31.61	21.43	15.63	45	64	27	16	-27.18	-6.8
75	UNLV	89	71	93	85	88	93	82	84	92	82.94	85.3	88.32	87.21	88.39	105	97	84	85	-27.23	-6.81
76	Eastern Michigan	90.5	111	92	113	105	97	112	111	120	101.84	102.91	104.15	106.72	105.52	111	103	112	117	-27.39	-6.85
77	Louisville	66	48	54	43	26	47	54	64	44	51.34	46.38	43.71	40.85	44.95	5	44	82	80	-28.72	-7.18
78	UAB	112	97	102	87	68	100	103	104	112	98.23	93.51	89.79	86.23	94.04	97	114	100	91	-34.24	-8.56
79	Georgia	9	11	6	4	4	17	5	4	21	8.1	7.49	6.14	6.72	10.11	17	7	15	26	-36.55	-9.14
80	Auburn	11	16	31	22	9.5	6	18	16	6	17.95	20.87	19.51	13.47	10.48	11	13	58	27	-37.21	-9.3
81	Utah State	82	101	67	88	118	107	116	103	108	89.25	89.02	93.27	106.86	111.15	117	110	99	92	-39.6	-9.9
82	Akron	83	100	102	69	101	77	84	116.5	88	92.51	92.78	85.81	87.4	90.02	93	102	95	109	-40.5	-10.13
83	Arizona State	27	38	23	41	32	38	17	36	26	32.13	32.63	32.42	33.97	31.1	40	14	57	63	-42.85	-10.71
84	Kansas State	42	51	48	46	48	55	45	112	99	47.31	48.91	47.9	53.66	61.61	57	51	69	64	-43.22	-10.81
85	Toledo	86	86	97	102.5	76	79	83	113	82	89.38	91.39	91.45	87.03	83.37	96	101	107	101	-45.76	-11.44
86	South Carolina	18	15	28	20	33	7	34	13	34	20.39	22.07	24.16	23.07	21.78	24	32	38	42	-46.31	-11.58
87	Minnesota	67.5	53	58	56	62	59	28	46	72	58.71	56.91	55.82	54.54	53.03	48	98	70	60	-50.03	-12.51
88	Miami (Oh)	90.5	111	78	116	84	76	89	97	101	97.72	94.41	93.14	92.04	85.12	107	94	115	115	-53.7	-13.42
89	Mississippi	26	32	39	29	15	31	38	17	15	30.18	31.73	29.66	24.62	25.44	69	72	10	19	-53.81	-13.45
90	Indiana	76	63	62.5	75	79	74	63	65	59	68.87	68.03	71.6	73.96	70.77	78	68	103	90	-56.55	-14.14
91	Baylor	21	47	90	64.5	55	52	55	44	51	51.84	66.91	66.72	55.9	52.31	76	95	62	75	-66.64	-16.66
92	North Texas	112	104	98	81	109	103	68	116.5	117	102.44	97.82	92.45	96.48	100.24	112	115	117	116	-70.81	-17.7
93	Florida State	6	12	4	3	12	33	8	18	9	7.82	9.08	9.05	13.95	19.03	33	40	17	30	-80.1	-20.03
94	Tennessee	5	7	9	1	24	4	35	8	16	7.54	8.3	10.68	14.29	16.64	15	15	56	35	-80.19	-20.05
95	Stanford	30	26	46	38	38	43	43	15	24	33.4	38.2	41	37.76	36.87	92	67	48	29	-85.64	-21.41
96	Mississippi State	17	20	60	39	39	27	33	19	38	31.05	40.64	42.33	34.28	31.12	72	37	83	44	-87.7	-21.93
97	Iowa State	69	60	57	50	59	69	58	79	73	60.37	57.55	56.47	60.23	65.82	82	82	98	62	-89.38	-22.35
98	Idaho	93	93.5	76	79	77	84	85	115	105	86.82	81.74	78.93	82.9	87.85	109	117	116	79	-90.62	-22.66
99	Purdue	56	33	32	26	54	70	47	63	49	39.39	36.73	40.06	50.08	58.88	59	56	72	71	-91.74	-22.94
100	UCLA	7	35	24	24	20	36	10	5	8	23.28	27.23	23.52	21.8	20.84	34	33	74	48	-93.17	-23.29
101	San Diego State	64.5	55	50.5	74	85	81	96.5	100	77	61.16	62.91	72.97	84.03	87.06	98	79	109	93	-97.95	-24.49
102	Memphis	64.5	68	80	72	67	86	98.5	94	74	69.93	74.32	76.8	77.99	83.75	108	99	88	106	-101.97	-25.49
103	Virginia	10	17	25	14	53	32	62	49	66	19.37	24.72	30.55	39.81	48.01	65	41	45	69	-105.55	-26.39
104	Maryland	29	22	16	25	27	48	52	28	42	23.31	23.18	28.07	33.78	40.67	38	50	44	89	-112.66	-28.17
105	Syracuse	36	62	50.5	49	51	46	50	102	53	50.76	52.78	49.5	53.46	55.33	63	91	91	78	-116.51	-29.13
106	Duke	60	76	65	31	36	64.5	71	52	71	61.2	57.43	47.72	45.93	57.7	114	88	55	73	-117.72	-29.43
107	North Carolina	35	13	18	34	25	14	30	6	31	22.98	20.47	25.48	24.13	20.35	87	66	29	32	-120.94	-30.24
108	Washington	23	18	22	55	35	29	14	66	11	25.85	29.72	36.35	38.76	30.5	50	54	105	50	-128.32	-32.08
109	Colorado	22	19	49	44	50	35	27	57	70	31.23	39.5	44.01	43.3	42.59	84	55	67	83	-130.96	-32.74
110	Illinois	47	31	44	45	28	20	19	35	57	39.04	37.11	36.27	30.13	26.56	94	30	64	86	-131.45	-32.86
111	Washington State	48	58	21	47	45	54	74.5	43	40	45.74	40.97	43.14	50.68	53.41	37	61	110	104	-131.47	-32.87
112	Tulane	50	46	66	90	74	111	90	77	94	58.52	70.36	83.32	87.56	92.11	100	109	113	111	-133.24	-33.31
113	Notre Dame	13	5	30	27	5	11	2	23	19	14.64	18.63	19.43	12.78	9.78	21	80	51	47	-133.52	-33.38
114	Miami (Fl)	4	6	3	12	14	13	3	24	14	6.26	7.67	9.55	12.78	12.65	49	70	35	21	-138.74	-34.69
115	North Carolina State	38	9.5	20	23	42	60	29	39	47	22.95	23.82	30.97	39.05	45.74	70	65	53	70	-141.22	-35.31
116	Texas A&M	8	9.5	14	17	21	26	15	12	25	11.85	15.28	17.97	19.56	20.79	39	42	79	55	-150.35	-37.59
117	Michigan	19	8	5	2	9.5	10	6	14	12	9.55	6.09	5.53	7.67	9.72	7	21	85	76	-160.17	-40.04

Oregon State does in fact win the state's Lunch Pail U title, but Oregon comes in at a quite respectable 27th... but there's a problem.

This method favors teams in the middle too much. Look at USC in 2007 as an example. Their expected rank is 2.08. If they end up ranked 1st, is that really the same as a team with an expected rank of 62.08 ending up 61st? Teams at the extremes (very high and very low expected rankings) end up in a situation where there's nowhere to go but down/up. Texas is a great example of a team with high expectations that had a few above expectation years and a few below expectation years, but ends up looking bad because the bad years had more room to go bad.

To adjust for this I added an extra calculation in to the expected rankings to pull them towards the center. With 117 teams, the average position is 69. The extra piece of the formula finds the difference between 69 and the expected ranking, and then moves the expected ranking 1/8 of that difference towards 69.

Say what?!?!?! Here's an example. Lets say team X has an expected rank of 77. This will find the difference between 69 and 77 (i.e. 8) and then move the expected ranking 1/8 of that distance towards 69 (1/8 of 8 is 1, so 1 is subtracted from 77 for a "weighted" expected rank of 76). 2007 USC's expected rank moves from 2.08 to 10.45: (69-2.08)/8 + 2.08 = 10.45.

Weighted Results:

Here are the results with the expected rank modification.

		Scout Recruit Rankings									Modified Expected Ranking					Sagarin Ranking
	School	2002	2003	2004	2005	2006	2007	2008	2009	2010	E06	E07	E08	E09	E10	S06	S07	S08	S09	Diff	Diff/Yr
1	Boise State	75	73	72	73	78	57	64	60	97	73.11	71.6	70.85	69.38	67.43	6	47	12	5	214.93	53.73
2	Navy	97.5	111	107	117	93	118	113	85	84	101.47	104.18	104.44	101.17	99.69	47	69	49	37	209.24	52.31
3	TCU	61	66	70	63	73	73	114	54	63	66.16	68.3	71.65	73.29	76.98	26	49	7	4	193.4	48.35
4	Cincinnati	95	84	75	70	70	80	51	53	61	80.51	75.17	70.69	68.44	67.2	43	19	34	8	190.8	47.7
5	Air Force	112	90	95	99	116.5	104	78	118	80	95.86	94.24	96.49	100.61	97.6	73	48	54	34	178.21	44.55
6	Utah	84	95	68	71	60	66	65	55	50	79.65	73.58	67.22	64.76	62.61	46	34	5	24	176.21	44.05
7	BYU	46	59	55	53	46	42	57	40	22	55.17	55.42	53.34	50.44	47.27	13	17	32	15	137.37	34.34
8	South Florida	103	108	43	54	56.5	45	46	25	52	81.38	63.95	52.4	52.2	49.08	31	20	42	38	118.93	29.73
9	West Virginia	33	57	53	33	56.5	18	36	22	30	50	50.29	44.62	41.62	37.21	10	3	26	31	116.53	29.13
10	Oregon State	49	56	34	51.5	41	40	61	48	67	50.72	47.41	47.48	49.21	50.25	20	16	13	33	112.82	28.2
11	Central Michigan	103	85	90	92.5	99	117	79	68	100	89.58	89.55	91.78	92.71	94.08	55	73	86	41	108.62	27.16
12	Connecticut	103	82.5	79	59	66	53	70	76	69	81.06	71.83	65.99	63.69	64.35	68	39	40	28	107.57	26.89
13	Wake Forest	58	42	61	60	65	63	67	56	62	55.7	58.23	63.02	63.64	64.08	27	28	25	54	106.59	26.65
14	Hawaii	74	82.5	82.5	83	102	85	92	62	86.5	80.37	83.12	85.31	86.89	85.63	23	35	81	95	101.69	25.42
15	Rutgers	41	69	45	67	63	28	42	29	48	58.05	57.8	55.89	53.92	44.74	12	38	37	40	98.65	24.66
16	Nevada	79.5	89	102	106	82	105	109.5	108	95	87.99	93.84	96.44	94.36	95.87	56	86	66	66	98.63	24.66
17	Kansas	78	70	56	57	47	78	49	50	65	66.2	61.46	58.18	57.78	61.17	61	2	31	58	91.62	22.9
18	Tulsa	72	109	77	82	83	92	86	73	91	85.65	85.56	80.79	82.22	84.04	62	63	41	88	80.21	20.05
19	Kentucky	70	54	52	62	34	58	53	27	46	58.47	54.84	54.74	50.21	49.16	28	18	47	46	79.25	19.81
20	Oregon	31	44	15	30	52	9	23	26	13	38.3	34.18	32.75	36.92	30.42	35	8	11	11	77.15	19.29
21	East Carolina	81	81	73	84	64	72	93	86	110.5	77.23	75.16	75.59	74.99	77.72	64	62	52	49	75.96	18.99
22	Boston College	55	27	42	58	44	50	22	81	43	45.45	45.66	50.07	51.52	48.93	25	23	28	43	73.69	18.42
23	Missouri	57	52	36	37	58	39	31	38	27.5	51.26	46.32	44.25	47.22	44.6	42	6	19	52	70.05	17.51
24	Virginia Tech	45	21	26	18	31	25	20	41	37	33.51	29.34	29.28	31.4	33.46	22	9	18	7	67.52	16.88
25	Fresno State	52	64	110	92.5	96	68	60	70	64	75.28	87.34	89.16	81.36	72.78	89	59	76	56	53.14	13.28
26	Penn State	16	50	12	28	6	19	41	11	10	32.9	30.1	25.74	24.99	24.79	18	26	8	10	51.72	12.93
27	New Mexico	103	80	96	89	111.5	91	108	87.5	78	89.61	89.18	93.51	95.63	94.43	77	57	75	108	50.92	12.73
28	Wyoming	103	103	85	94.5	94.5	109	106	95	102	94.11	91.28	91.56	95.09	98.34	67	76	102	77	50.04	12.51
29	Florida	20	4	8	11	2	1	12	21	1	16.92	14.16	15.04	14.55	13.74	1	10	1	2	46.66	11.67
30	Western Michigan	93	91	90	104.5	98	106	101	91	83	90.42	92.09	95.67	97.02	95.57	66	87	73	103	46.2	11.55
31	Troy	112	72	74	68	89	64.5	76	71	86.5	81.5	72.8	73.31	74.99	74.66	75	52	65	65	45.59	11.4
32	Houston	43	41	84	80	69	61.5	77	58	55	58.52	68.87	75.42	70.16	65.97	53	75	50	51	43.97	10.99
33	Texas Tech	14	37	17	36	17	44	59	30	36	30.96	33.09	35.09	37.7	41.81	36	24	9	25	42.85	10.71
34	Ball State	86	105	104.5	109	81	88	102	101	89	95	97.34	95.42	90.46	87.98	88	74	61	113	42.21	10.55
35	Ohio State	3	25	11	7	13	16	4	1	20	20.51	21.17	17.41	17.43	18.57	4	11	14	6	41.52	10.38
36	Buffalo	112	92	114.5	102.5	114	115	115	110	109	100.08	101.77	105.14	105.86	108.09	113	93	71	97	38.85	9.71
37	Wisconsin	53	36	37	35	37	41	26	51	33	43.98	40.71	40.04	41.09	41.49	9	36	59	23	38.82	9.71
38	Georgia Tech	51	34	35	48	49	15	37	32	41	44.79	41.38	43.72	42.88	36.64	32	58	36	12	34.77	8.69
39	Rice	112	74	114.5	113	94.5	90	98.5	74	104	94.31	95.88	101.16	93.56	89.15	81	112	46	112	33.9	8.47
40	Oklahoma State	32	29	33	64.5	16	24	40	45	18	38.17	39.72	43.72	39.18	32.46	41	27	20	39	33.8	8.45
41	Clemson	28	43	40	21	22	23	11	42	23	38.66	37.88	30.84	28.08	28.43	29	22	30	22	32.46	8.11
42	San Jose State	71	88	111	104.5	91.5	102	120	92.5	75.5	87.91	96.9	100.03	96.43	95.88	58	90	92	110	31.28	7.82
43	ULM	112	116.5	112.5	110.5	109	112	91	82	113	107.72	107.19	104.28	101.07	99.21	101	83	108	98	30.26	7.57
44	Northern Illinois	93	106	99	97.5	104	114	118	105.5	103	96.27	98.09	98.57	101.53	105.23	79	111	89	87	28.47	7.12
45	Texas	1	14	10	13	3	3	16	7	3	16.46	17.55	16.75	15.08	13.95	19	12	4	3	27.84	6.96
46	Vanderbilt	59	61	62.5	76	61	87	74.5	72	54	63.4	66.9	70.6	72.02	72.99	60	53	39	94	26.92	6.73
47	LSU	15	2	2	19	7.5	5	7	3	7	15.39	14.14	17.21	16.9	13.83	3	1	21	13	25.63	6.41
48	Southern Miss	77	78	69	66	90	67	48	61	60	74.66	72.51	70.08	71.66	67.84	52	78	63	72	23.91	5.98
49	Oklahoma	2	3	7	5	7.5	30	13	10	2	12.26	15.19	17.06	19.33	22.92	16	5	3	17	22.83	5.71
50	Ohio	97.5	87	88	91	103	110	105	96	118	88.76	89.05	92.67	97.07	101.56	71	92	101	81	22.55	5.64
51	Alabama	37	45	19	16	18	22	1	2	4	36.77	30.52	23.21	21.73	19.97	54	31	6	1	20.23	5.06
52	USC	12	1	1	6	1	2	9	9	5	12.43	10.45	11.7	12.17	12.33	2	4	2	20	18.74	4.69
53	Middle Tennessee	88	98.5	81	61	111.5	95	88	83	107	86.43	84.01	80.67	87.79	93.71	80	85	97	59	17.9	4.47
54	Arkansas State	112	107	104.5	115	116.5	82	104	105.5	106	104.41	102.13	102.98	102.11	95.92	99	96	94	105	17.64	4.41
55	California	62	24	29	9	23	12	32	34	27.5	37.17	27.59	25.25	25.48	28.43	8	29	16	45	17.48	4.37
56	Arkansas	24	23	27	32	30	34	24	20	35	31.1	33.06	34.83	34.68	34.35	14	25	60	18	16.67	4.17
57	UCF	73	65	106	78	87	61.5	66	59	56	77.33	82.4	82	74.15	68.16	95	45	96	67	12.88	3.22
58	Arizona	34	40	64	15	19	49	39	47	39	42.42	45.03	38.42	33.69	42.28	44	43	24	36	12.55	3.14
59	UTEP	112	113	117	77	100	96	73	109	81	103.29	99.87	90.49	88.19	89.79	91	104	80	99	7.84	1.96
60	Nebraska	44	28	38	10	29	21	21	33	29	36.56	32.65	28.75	27.88	30.57	30	60	23	14	-1.16	-0.29
61	Bowling Green	97.5	98.5	82.5	100	75	98	107	87.5	85	90.31	87.67	88.2	87.98	88.91	110	84	78	84	-1.84	-0.46
62	Louisiana Tech	112	49	108	97.5	97	99	96.5	80	93	84.06	86.6	96.23	92.72	91.96	115	89	77	82	-3.39	-0.85
63	Louisiana	79.5	114	109	94.5	106	116	111	119	110.5	97.35	102.73	99.91	102.04	106.99	104	107	93	102	-3.97	-0.99
64	Northwestern	54	67	71	51.5	71	56	69	69	58	63.76	65.41	63.06	63.51	64.69	83	77	43	57	-4.26	-1.06
65	Kent State	103	102	116	110.5	113	89	100	114	114	102.21	103.9	103.96	101.46	98.05	102	108	106	100	-4.48	-1.12
66	Georgia	9	11	6	4	4	17	5	4	21	15.71	15.18	14	14.51	17.47	17	7	15	26	-5.61	-1.4
67	Iowa	40	30	41	8	40	37	44	75	45	37.38	35.93	34.01	38.97	47.43	51	71	22	9	-6.71	-1.68
68	New Mexico State	112	116.5	112.5	113	119	113	117	120	115	108.69	108.74	108.72	110.25	110.39	106	113	111	114	-7.6	-1.9
69	Pittsburgh	25	39	47	42	11	8	25	31	17	39.44	40.62	36.28	27.38	22.3	45	64	27	16	-8.28	-2.07
70	Temple	103	115	94	101	86	75	72	89	75.5	99.45	94.52	88.08	83.97	77.64	116	106	87	68	-10.97	-2.74
71	Auburn	11	16	31	22	9.5	6	18	16	6	24.33	26.89	25.7	20.41	17.79	11	13	58	27	-11.68	-2.92
72	Michigan State	39	96	13	40	43	51	56	37	32	56.04	48.69	40.52	47.94	49.58	74	46	33	53	-12.81	-3.2
73	Louisville	66	48	54	43	26	47	54	64	44	53.55	49.21	46.87	44.37	47.96	5	44	82	80	-17.01	-4.25
74	Colorado State	63	77	59	96	80	83	94.5	107	90	71.99	74.55	80.26	86.06	85.62	85	81	68	96	-17.14	-4.28
75	South Carolina	18	15	28	20	33	7	34	13	34	26.47	27.94	29.77	28.81	27.68	24	32	38	42	-23.02	-5.76
76	Arizona State	27	38	23	41	32	38	17	36	26	36.74	37.18	36.99	38.35	35.84	40	14	57	63	-24.74	-6.19
77	Marshall	97.5	93.5	87	86	72	71	81	92.5	79	87.88	83.3	79.72	76.89	75.54	90	100	90	74	-26.2	-6.55
78	SMU	67.5	75	86	107.5	91.5	94	87	67	68	79.1	86.37	92.33	90.44	84.45	86	116	114	61	-28.76	-7.19
79	Kansas State	42	51	48	46	48	55	45	112	99	50.02	51.42	50.54	55.58	62.53	57	51	69	64	-33.44	-8.36
80	Mississippi	26	32	39	29	15	31	38	17	15	35.03	36.39	34.58	30.17	30.89	69	72	10	19	-33.83	-8.46
81	Army	86	79	100	107.5	107	119	80	99	98	87.91	94.91	100.24	101.06	99.73	103	105	104	107	-34.88	-8.72
82	UNLV	89	71	93	85	88	93	82	84	92	81.2	83.26	85.91	84.93	85.97	105	97	84	85	-35.7	-8.93
83	Minnesota	67.5	53	58	56	62	59	28	46	72	59.99	58.42	57.47	56.35	55.03	48	98	70	60	-43.77	-10.94
84	Eastern Michigan	90.5	111	92	113	105	97	112	111	120	97.73	98.67	99.76	102.01	100.96	111	103	112	117	-44.84	-11.21
85	UAB	112	97	102	87	68	100	103	104	112	94.58	90.45	87.19	84.08	90.91	97	114	100	91	-45.71	-11.43
86	Florida State	6	12	4	3	12	33	8	18	9	15.47	16.57	16.54	20.83	25.28	33	40	17	30	-50.59	-12.65
87	Tennessee	5	7	9	1	24	4	35	8	16	15.22	15.89	17.97	21.13	23.19	15	15	56	35	-50.79	-12.7
88	Akron	83	100	102	69	101	77	84	116.5	88	89.57	89.81	83.71	85.1	87.39	93	102	95	109	-50.81	-12.7
89	Utah State	82	101	67	88	118	107	116	103	108	86.72	86.52	90.24	102.13	105.88	117	110	99	92	-52.4	-13.1
90	Toledo	86	86	97	102.5	76	79	83	113	82	86.83	88.59	88.64	84.77	81.57	96	101	107	101	-56.17	-14.04
91	Indiana	76	63	62.5	75	79	74	63	65	59	68.89	68.15	71.27	73.34	70.55	78	68	103	90	-57.36	-14.34
92	Baylor	21	47	90	64.5	55	52	55	44	51	53.99	67.17	67	57.53	54.4	76	95	62	75	-62.31	-15.58
93	Miami (Oh)	90.5	111	78	116	84	76	89	97	101	94.13	91.23	90.12	89.16	83.11	107	94	115	115	-66.36	-16.59
94	Stanford	30	26	46	38	38	43	43	15	24	37.85	42.05	44.5	41.67	40.89	92	67	48	29	-69.94	-17.48
95	UCLA	7	35	24	24	20	36	10	5	8	29	32.45	29.21	27.7	26.86	34	33	74	48	-70.65	-17.66
96	Mississippi State	17	20	60	39	39	27	33	19	38	35.79	44.19	45.66	38.62	35.86	72	37	83	44	-71.74	-17.93
97	Purdue	56	33	32	26	54	70	47	63	49	43.09	40.76	43.68	52.45	60.15	59	56	72	71	-78.02	-19.51
98	Iowa State	69	60	57	50	59	69	58	79	73	61.45	58.98	58.04	61.33	66.22	82	82	98	62	-84.21	-21.05
99	North Texas	112	104	98	81	109	103	68	116.5	117	98.26	94.22	89.52	93.05	96.34	112	115	117	116	-84.96	-21.24
100	Virginia	10	17	25	14	53	32	62	49	66	25.57	30.26	35.36	43.46	50.63	65	41	45	69	-85.36	-21.34
101	Maryland	29	22	16	25	27	48	52	28	42	29.02	28.91	33.19	38.18	44.21	38	50	44	89	-91.7	-22.93
102	Idaho	93	93.5	76	79	77	84	85	115	105	84.59	80.14	77.69	81.16	85.49	109	117	116	79	-97.42	-24.35
103	North Carolina	35	13	18	34	25	14	30	6	31	28.73	26.54	30.92	29.74	26.43	87	66	29	32	-98.07	-24.52
104	San Diego State	64.5	55	50.5	74	85	81	96.5	100	77	62.14	63.67	72.47	82.15	84.8	98	79	109	93	-98.58	-24.64
105	Memphis	64.5	68	80	72	67	86	98.5	94	74	69.81	73.66	75.83	76.87	81.91	108	99	88	106	-104.84	-26.21
106	Notre Dame	13	5	30	27	5	11	2	23	19	21.44	24.93	25.63	19.81	17.18	21	80	51	47	-107.21	-26.8
107	Syracuse	36	62	50.5	49	51	46	50	102	53	53.04	54.8	51.93	55.4	57.04	63	91	91	78	-107.82	-26.96
108	Miami (Fl)	4	6	3	12	14	13	3	24	14	14.1	15.34	16.98	19.81	19.69	49	70	35	21	-108.77	-27.19
109	Duke	60	76	65	31	36	64.5	71	52	71	62.18	58.88	50.38	48.81	59.11	114	88	55	73	-109.76	-27.44
110	Washington	23	18	22	55	35	29	14	66	11	31.24	34.63	40.43	42.54	35.31	50	54	105	50	-110.16	-27.54
111	Illinois	47	31	44	45	28	20	19	35	57	42.79	41.1	40.36	34.99	31.87	94	30	64	86	-114.77	-28.69
112	Colorado	22	19	49	44	50	35	27	57	70	35.95	43.19	47.13	46.51	45.89	84	55	67	83	-116.22	-29.05
113	Washington State	48	58	21	47	45	54	74.5	43	40	48.65	44.47	46.37	52.97	55.36	37	61	110	104	-119.54	-29.88
114	North Carolina State	38	9.5	20	23	42	60	29	39	47	28.7	29.46	35.72	42.79	48.65	70	65	53	70	-121.32	-30.33
115	Texas A&M	8	9.5	14	17	21	26	15	12	25	18.99	21.99	24.35	25.74	26.82	39	42	79	55	-123.93	-30.98
116	Michigan	19	8	5	2	9.5	10	6	14	12	16.98	13.95	13.46	15.33	17.13	7	21	85	76	-129.27	-32.32
117	Tulane	50	46	66	90	74	111	90	77	94	59.83	70.19	81.53	85.24	89.22	100	109	113	111	-136.21	-34.05

Sooo... the Lunch Pail U title, unsurprisingly, goes to Boise State. It's no surprise to see TCU, Navy, and Air Force near the top either. Oregon State places at an excellent 10th place... third among BCS schools. Oregon places a very respectable 20th. So the Beavs win this round, but the Ducks are right there behind them. Hopefully, this will help them feel better after we win our third straight Civil War.

At the other end of the spectrum, this just reinforces how much Michigan has fallen in the past few years. It's no surprise to see Notre Dame and the NC schools near the bottom either. I was a bit surprised about Tulane though. They had some decent recruiting classes in the early part of the decade, but don't have anything to show for it. Another victim of Hurricane Katrina I suppose.

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TMTOH?

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Sep 5, 2010 4:34 PM PDT reply actions

What?

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 5, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't ever understand his chatspeak.

My yoke is heavy.

by qrsouther on Sep 5, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions

to much time on hands?

#88

by pipgras on Sep 5, 2010 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions

That.

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Sep 5, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions

LOL!

HTH.

HAND!

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Sep 5, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions

i’m hoping trades in text/chatspeak for Jersey Shore acronyms. GTL, DTF, DTS, MVP, etc.

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by NEP on Sep 5, 2010 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions

You could say that

It’s day 3 of a 4 day weekend. I’ve actually been wanting to do this for about a month now.

FWIW, it only took about 2 hours to put all the data together.

by Gargen on Sep 5, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions

I enjoyed it, thanks for putting in the time.

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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 6, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions

There are definitely some interesting stats,

That reinforce the “talent toilet” (I just made the phrase up, and I am definitely going to use is again!) school image in my eyes. UCLA for example always sucks, but they bring in great players.

Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Sep 5, 2010 4:57 PM PDT reply actions

I for one love this type of analysis

Screw the old guy that has too much time on his hand but uses it to polish his Mercedes for the fifth time this week.

Big Rec! Thanks.

Hey Daisy, git me anudder one!
Addicted to Quack

by Matt Daddy on Sep 5, 2010 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs

Hey, I like it too, and if I wasn’t so busy finding the places Musgrave missed on the Benz, I’d have time to do more stuff like this myself.

Thanks, Gargen! And a rec for both of you.

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Sep 5, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions

When you dry off the car, is sandpaper or steel wool the best fabric to use?

Chairman, Tako Owes MCD a Half Rack of Keg Stickers Committee

by Bill Musgrave on Sep 6, 2010 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions

I checked the Betriebsanleitung Exterieur:

Bitte testen Sie Stahlwolle oder Sandpapier am Hodensack vor Gebrauch.

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Sep 6, 2010 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions

Ummm,

MCD, can you please translate this jibberish?

Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Sep 6, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions

I’ll give you a couple hints:

- If you can’t look at “testen”, “Stahlwolle” and “Sandpapier” and know what they mean you need help.
- “Hodensack” … it means what your dirty mind THINKS it means.

And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!

by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 9, 2010 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions

Oh, and by the way I tried this out, no problems.

Chairman, Tako Owes MCD a Half Rack of Keg Stickers Committee

by Bill Musgrave on Sep 9, 2010 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions

And I suppose you expect me to take you at your word for this.

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Sep 10, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Are you asking to inspect the hodensack?

Seems a little much.

Chairman, Tako Owes MCD a Half Rack of Keg Stickers Committee

by Bill Musgrave on Sep 10, 2010 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions

I’m not the one trying to pass muster here.

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Sep 15, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Good to see the Huskies coming in at their usual spot.

Pac-10 rankings

Oregon State
Oregon
Arizona
Cal
USC
Arizona State
Stanford
UCLA
Washington
Washington State

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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 5, 2010 6:30 PM PDT reply actions

source?

link?

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Sep 5, 2010 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Wow.

"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 5, 2010 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Source

Here’s the link.

by Gargen on Sep 5, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Lol

axemen23: the human vuvuzela

by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 5, 2010 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions

HooGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

axemen23: the human vuvuzela

by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 5, 2010 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Hahahahaha!!!!

Good ol’ axemen is back from his strange hiatus when he acted rational!

Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Sep 5, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Next we’ll have to explain to him how to breathe.

I don't deal in hyperbole.

by JConant on Sep 5, 2010 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions

hmm.

relapses happen early in the recovery process. just wait until i have to apoligize to all of you

"Our expectations are to win every game we play. I don’t know if that’s ever going to happen .... but no one ever rises to low expectations." --Chip Kelly

by axemen23 on Sep 6, 2010 12:26 AM PDT up reply actions

That's

gotta be a joke… Good write up. I was a little shocked at how high Oregon is. I would give a Rec, but this mobile won’t let me. Just consider this a rec

"You don't play against opponents. You play against the game..." - Bobby Knight

by bsu415 on Sep 6, 2010 12:03 AM PDT up reply actions

Interesting

But just for the record as a Beaver, I don’t like to call us “Lunch Pail U” >__<

It’s more like “Win When Nobody’s Watching But Mess The Bed In All Our Big Nationally Televised Games U”… but that’s not catchy enough.

by scotty256 on Sep 5, 2010 10:47 PM PDT reply actions

I dunno.. I’m no fan of the nutria, but I thought they played pretty well overall vs TCU.

Average Score Since 2004: Oregon 42 Washington 17

by benzduck on Sep 6, 2010 10:46 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions

I agree, except...

THIS is the only thing anyone will remember about us >_<

by scotty256 on Sep 11, 2010 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Not surprised to see Boise State at the top. or teams like Michigan and Notre Dame near the bottom.

by raging WebTed on Sep 5, 2010 11:01 PM PDT reply actions

Can you explain why you used this?

To account for older years having more of an affect on the current team, each year was weighted as follows: 5th year = 25%, 4th year = 35%, 3rd year = 20%, 2nd year = 12%, 1st year = 8%.

Also, would there be a way of using the highest ranked year in the previous 5 years and giving a higher weighting to that year as it progressed the system? I understand that you’re trying to give more experienced players an edge when it comes to final rankings, but a team that excels with a larger number of younger kids is going to unbalance your equation (like OSU has had the previous two years).

Let me know your thoughts.

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by Matt Daddy on Sep 5, 2010 11:29 PM PDT reply actions

The weight on each year is completely arbitrary. I just futzed with the percentages until I got something that looked good to me. Even if the younger classes excel, the theory is they should excel even more once they are the senior class and that 3 star seniors will still often be more valuable than 4/5 star freshmen… or at the very least equally as valuable.

I can see how an exceptionally good class could throw the balance off though. Call it the Jonathan Stewart effect. It also doesn’t account for JC transfers very well (who have a more immediate impact and no impact after a few years). On the other hand, Oregon’s best ranked recruiting class didn’t have much immediate impact.

Still, it would be pretty easy to implement something like this:
5th year = 20%, 4th year = 32%, 3rd year = 18%, 2nd year = 14%, 1st year = 8%, best year = 8%

I don’t think it would change much, but I’d be willing to give it a shot and post the results (now that the data is in the spreadsheet, changing the formulas only takes a couple minutes). Got a request?

by Gargen on Sep 6, 2010 1:42 AM PDT up reply actions

When did AtQ turn into BlazersEdge?

Is this going to turn into a debate on Darron Thomas’s True Completion Percentage vs. LaMichael James Adjusted Yards Per Carry divided by Chip Kelly’s Scowls Per Interview?

by JonathanPDX on Sep 6, 2010 3:08 AM PDT reply actions

ha ha! BEdge isnt even that fun anymore. you can’t even have an opinion w/o having to have a million stats to back it up. let’s hope AtQ keeps its sense of humor. we take ourselves a little less serious over here.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Sep 6, 2010 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions

I agree

They are way too serious at BE, I never participate over there. It’s just too much work.

Say what you mean, and say it mean. - Clint Ruin

by QuackinAK on Sep 6, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions

i wonder if that what football in the South is like…ya know, with less facts.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Sep 6, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions

You also need some form of trade rumor to rosterbate over to participate over there.

My yoke is heavy.

by qrsouther on Sep 6, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions

You also need some form of trade rumor to rosterbate over to participate over there.

First time I’ve seen the word “rosterbate”. It could have 2 totally different meanings. It could be a substitute for “roster debate”, or it could be what axemen does in his mom’s basement when trying to set his fantasy football lineup.

And in the Yell-O corner, with a 2009 conference record of 8 wins, 1 loss...the REIGNING...DEFENDING...UNDISPUTED Champions of the PAC TEN...the Oregon Ducks!

by MarineCorpsDuck on Sep 9, 2010 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions