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Quack Fix: With LMJ presumed out, Thomas and Thomas will need to step up against ASU

Darron Thomas is putting up some good stats this season, but hasn't improved much from last season. If LMJ is out, the offensive success will rest on his shoulders.

The Ducks haven't faced a tough team since the season opener against LSU. But that changes this weekend as the Ducks host the 18th ranked ASU Sun Devils, and ESPN Gameday will be in town. Of note, the Ducks opened as 15-point favorites. I would say that seems high, especially with LaMichael James also definitely out, but, I'm not betting against the Ducks at home.

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Go Ducks!!

It’s going to be a long week waiting for this matchup of two top 20 teams at Autzen to roll around……

by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 10, 2011 7:24 AM PDT reply actions  

The time of the game is still going to be 10:15 EST I assume?

by westspec on Oct 10, 2011 7:47 AM PDT reply actions  

I keep wondering about this too....

Someone mentioned that there is a Nascar race that is going to be televised on ABC in the evening primetime slot. Not sure if this is true, I just keep waiting for them to announce that the time of the game has been changed.

We’ll see I guess.

by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 10, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

If they haven’t changed it now, it won’t be changed. 10:15EST is the time.

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 7:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Now I can plan accordingly. We have our med school beach party (I go to school in the Caribbean) that is an all you can drink, all day event. Usually culminates in 4/10 people not being able to walk by the time it’s over. With our 10:15pm kickoff (in east coast time) this game guarantees I will be relatively sober at the end of the party.

How you feeling about our secondary in this one JT?

by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 10, 2011 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think they’ll be fine. I was actually pretty shocked this morning when I looked at the pac-12 passing defense statistics.

Oregon’s secondary is putting up secondary numbers similar or better to last season (at least against FBS opponents). The main problem is that the defense is not creating turnovers. In a 13 game season, we’re on pace for only 7.8 interceptions (as opposed to 21 last year). Though there is this drop, we’re on pace to give up the same number of TDs as last year, and roughly the same opponent completion percentage and yards per attempt.

And according to advanced statistics, our pass defense is significantly improved.

I think the biggest problem is that our rushing defense has taken a step back. Linebacker play has been a disappointment, and not having Michael Clay on the field really hurts. When we get him back, I think we’ll see significant improvement.

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Turnovers generally are down

DT’s INT was our first turnover of any sort since the LSU game.

I think we’ll force some vs. ASU, they like to give the ball up.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 10, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep,

We haven’t played ASU yet. How many picks did we get off that game alone last year? 6 of the 7 total turnovers?

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by flyduckfly on Oct 10, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

A lot of that was because Threet was a turnover machine

But Osweiller isn’t far behind.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 10, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was ridiculous

and we needed every one of them to pull that game out. Saturday’s game could be a close one, but Autzen will of course work to our advantage.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 10, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Their game vs. Utah was close until Utah turned into a turnover machine

I think if we take care of the ball, we win.

They don’t have the offensive firepower we have, even without LMJ, not even close.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 10, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah its on ESPN

ABC doesn’t have the prime-time CFB game this week so we’re it.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 10, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Colorado game at 12:30 on FSN on 10/22

FWIW.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 10, 2011 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

this seems to put the earlier Cliff Harris discussion to bed:
Kelly said Harris’ playing time "is all based on how you practice and how you prepare. I’ve said since Day 1, just because you’re reinstated, every person in this program earns their way on the field. …

Please direct all inquiries regarding playing time to one Mr. Cliff Harris.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 10, 2011 9:24 AM PDT reply actions  

How does this put anything to bed? This is a rather meaningless coach-speak statement that does not shed any light on the situation.

Is Cliff Harris not trying (which is something I highly doubt)? Is he not “conforming” to the defense, which has supposedly been a problem since Harris has been on campus? Is he still having problems off the field? This statement does not answer any of these questions.

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think Cliff has an attitude problem (well duh)

And Chip is trying to handle it best he can.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 10, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

What makes you think that Cliff has an attitude problem?

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's what Chip may be getting at

Players like Cliff always ride the line between effective and crazy.

But then again since Chip doesn’t talk to the media, I dunno.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 10, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

This
is all based on how you practice and how you prepare.

Is about as specific as CK has ever been in answering a question about a player’s status. I think he’s making it pretty clear that Cliff does not practice well enough to earn the starting spot.

We’re talking about practice, man. Practice.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 10, 2011 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

In what way does Cliff not practice well? Is it that he’s not working hard in practice (which I highly doubt)? Or is that he’s not “conforming” to the defensive system, which Aliotti mentioned last week, and has supposedly been a constant problem since he’s been at Oregon?

Yeah, that’s about as specific as Chip has been, and that is not specific at all. It’s coach-speak bullshit.

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s the way Chip has always been. You expect something more? He has always kept these things under wraps.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

While it’s always “been” that way, I’d argue he’s actually getting even worse with it.

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, it’s true. And I don’t like it either. I want to know as much as possible about the football team. I’m a fan, it’s natural. I think you said something to the same effect last week.

I’ve just come to accept that’s the way Kelly is, and there’s really no getting around it. I hate that Harris isn’t seeing more playing time. I don’t know if Kelly is handling this correctly or not. How will we even know, other than seeing that he keeps a good hold on the respect of his players?

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sure he’s keeping tight lipped about anything and everything, especially with the media, until he’s been given the go-ahead re: NCAA the investigation.

I just hope he loosens up a little bit after that. I like Kelly’s snark and wit. But even that stuff is going away, and we are getting less and less information, and as a selfish fan, it’s starting to annoy me.

I’m not owed the information, and I understand why Kelly keeps this information close to his chest, but it is abrasive to a my nature of wanting enlightenment.

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally agree

I want all the information and I want it now!

To Gorby’s point about keeping the respect of his players…I imagine that every player wants to start and those that want it badly will work hard to accomplish it.

This is exactly why Cliff can’t start. I can’t see that the players would disagree with CK’s decision. I wouldn’t want to be passed over by someone who didn’t work as hard.

Plus, these things have a way of getting policed internally. How long before players (who know they are better with Cliff starting) start calling him out? Sometimes people who have problems with authority react to their peers better. But so far it doesn’t seem to be playing out that way.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 10, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t want to be passed over by someone who didn’t work as hard.

I think this a massive an unfair assumption. At no point did Kelly say that Cliff did not work as hard. This issue has come up over and over, and it’s always about “conforming.”

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t want to be passed over by someone who didn’t conform either.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 10, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t want to be passed over by someone who was worse than me.

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that the motivation to conform then?

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. Obviously, that would help things greatly.

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

At the end of the day...

effort got Rudy in the game for a token play or two. Cliff will be on the field against ASU. He played a lot against AZ and probably had a lapse of judgement leading up to Cal and will redeem himself this week.

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by BisonDucks on Oct 10, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

MURPHY!!!!!!!

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn't like the way he practices or prepares

I think that strongly implies effort or attention to detail, which is just another form of effort, as is “conforming”.

The bottom line is he doesn’t prepare the way the coaching staff wants him to. You can call that whatever you want, but that seems to be plainly stated by CK.

It’s not for other disciplinary reasons related to off the field issues, apparently.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 11, 2011 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

What do you expect?

And why does it matter? It seems its an issue with how Cliff practices and not other “off the field” related issues.

I can imagine that Cliff is the kind of person for whom football comes easy. CK clearly wants his starters to be leaders and you’re not going to lead/start if you don’t practice the way he wants.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 10, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still don’t quite understand

As far as I can tell, when CK says the above about CH13, he could just be saying, “Cliff’s in my doghouse and I am trying to irrationally punish him because I just don’t like him. Yeah, in the limited playing time that I’ve given him, he plays great but I just don’t like his personality.”

Yeah, I know I am being harsh on CK, but I can only go by what I see and Harris is playing well when he gets a chance and it is game performance more than practice performance that should be the #1 factor in playing a guy. To keep him off the field at this point, CK must feel like Harris is a cancer and nowhere have we seen public evidence of that.

by ursula on Oct 10, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Like all coaches

CK has expectations of his players. Is he trying to break Cliff of his bad habits or potential attitude problems? It seems so. If then, why? Is he just power-tripping? I don’t think so.

CK has stated multiple times he really likes Cliff, and every game I go to Cliff is not far from CK on the sidelines. Therefore, I think CK is doing what is best for Cliff in the long run: making him accountable.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 10, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

When CK draws a line

it’s not in the sand but in concrete. As we start loading up with “super elite” recruits, I think we will begin seeing this more, or recruits will see how things are handled before committing and either modify expectations/performance or go somewhere else.

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by webfoot73 on Oct 10, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he is practicing anything like he in fall camp last year, then I can understand. He threw a lot of temper tantrums when things didn’t go his way and he sulked a lot. That was the main reason he wasn’t on the two deep to being the season last year. However, I thought he had turned things around. Is it possible he reverted to those antics due to his frustration of not getting the PT he thinks he deserves?

Its hard to deny the guy when he leads our defense with pass breakups with 1/4 or less of the playing time as everyone else, but if he isn’t practicing well I can understand Chip’s move.

I had a friend in high school who probably could have been a WNBA player. She couldn’t handle authority and played for something like 6 junior colleges but could never make anything stick because of her attitude problems. Chip may be seeing some of those traits in Cliff.

by Pelhament on Oct 10, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Worked until 1:30am this morning and got back to the office at 7am. My Engrish is not the best this morning, my apologies.

by Pelhament on Oct 10, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

He threw a lot of temper tantrums when things didn’t go his way and he sulked a lot.

Wait, what? When did this happen?

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I noticed it quite a few times in fall camp last season. However, once the season got under way it looked he grew out of it. I’m just hoping he doesn’t revert back to that.

by Pelhament on Oct 10, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huh.

I clearly remember being told several times early last year that Harris’ problem was that he was undisciplined in the system: he freelanced too much. I believe CK said this even. And as the season went along he got more playing time and became a started precisely because he played more within the defensive system.

I never heard of temper tantrums though by no means am I that close to the team. But if they were common early last year I can see the connection to not playing within the defensive system.

But that makes me wonder all the more about this year. He appears in games to be playing in within the defensive scheme. I would think that if he wasn’t practicing well that it would show when he got playing time, but that is not the case as we can all see. The kid is a stud cornerback and certainly doesn’t act like a diva when he’s in the game.

So I can’t help but see a disconnection here between Harris’ playing time and what Kelly is saying happens at practice. I don’t know the answer, obviously, but I really wonder what is going on and Kelly’s comments only sow more confusion on the situation IMO.

by ursula on Oct 10, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was more of an issue with him being so hard on himself, that he would basically just quit on himself if a few things didn’t go right. Like I said he looked like he grew out of it rather quickly. However, that is practice. Not once have I seen him do this in a game situation. Of all the plays I can think of last year where this would have occurred, it would have been when Criner burned him for the longest TD of his season. He didn’t let it get to him and played a great game overall.

Kid is a stud, and I hope we start seeing him more and more. He was in the perfect position on every pass in his area against Cal, that’s a lot more than we can say for some of our DBS and Safeties (Boyett excluded).

by Pelhament on Oct 10, 2011 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

It puts to bed the notion that Cliff Harris’ limited playing time is some sort of carryover of his off-field problems. I think it answers Matt’s question about the inconsistency of punishment related to those kinds of problems.

Cliff’s issues are strictly on-field practice and preparation problems. Of course we don’t know the details of that.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know Kelly said anything until a few minutes ago. I just had a debate with Jared over IM, and now I look dumb. Thanks Kelly. Thanks a lot.

And to make matters worse, I agree with you.

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

One big reason not to bring back LMJ this weekend

I’m afraid of what this guy would do to him, dirty player that he is:

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by skywaker9 on Oct 10, 2011 9:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Do you follow

evilvontaze7 on twitter? it’s a pretty funny fake twitter account.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 10, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Frickin Hilarious!

One of the best fake twitter accounts ever. After dissing Salt Lake City last weekend, can’t wait to see what he has to say about Eugene.

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by jfwells on Oct 10, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

He or she has already said this about the state of Oregon,

“Glad we’re playing OSU at home. Last time I went to Oregon, all my oxen died, my son got bit by a snake, and my wife died of dysentery.”

by CaDuck on Oct 10, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is that a picture of the entire state of Arizona?
I would have just gone w/Vontaze or that 6’8" QB, but hey, you are the Curse guy.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's obviously still mad about January.

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by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Haha, actually not really.

It’s a picture of a place called “Bombay Beach” which was a booming tourist vacation spot on the Salton Sea around the 1950’s (as a big wave of vacation development arose there). Eventually all of the agricultural runoff destroyed the lake and all life in it. I just sort of found this picture fascinating.

Anyways, here is a cool mini documentary on youtube about it.

by CaDuck on Oct 10, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

So....where's Vontaze?

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by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

O SNAP.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure why I went down this bunny trail...

But I was thinking about Stoops and his antics, followed by what I presume to be his departure at the end of the year (or before, if he keeps the current lack of win-streak alive much longer), and went over to Arizona Desert Swarm. They are calling for his head. All 6 comments posted since Saturday.

The community over there is…not engaged. Do Wildcat fans have a non-SBN site they frequent, or is there just not a great following of the team on the web? The fans are – at least when climbing onto the field way too early – enthusiastic and participatory when they think the team is going to win.

I’ve been a reader/member of this blog – occasionally posting comments, mostly lurking – since before it was an SBN site (2006-ish). Throughout that time, the bloggers, mods, contributors, and commenters have been engaged, thoughtful, and enthusiastic of their team and support, regardless of on-field success.

So I want to thank you – all of you – for your thoughts, your moderation, your contribution, and your thoughtful (and occasionally emotional, sarcastic, or vitriolic) comments.

by scudderfan on Oct 10, 2011 10:04 AM PDT reply actions  

I think LMJ is going to play on Saturday.

No link, no insider info, I’m just calling my shot.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 10:58 AM PDT reply actions  

Makes sense.

You are a “babe” after all.

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by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Wow, that was… pretty good

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by webfoot73 on Oct 10, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

If there was ever a time to bring back the sledgehammer..

Have LMJ come out with the hammer and pump his team up…but in no way do I want him playing against a dirty, undisciplined D like ASU. Although, if he does play, I would be 100x more nervous than I am throughout any game, but it would be really awesome to see.

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by kolson82 on Oct 10, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine?

Autzen peeps will LOSE THEIR FREAKING MINDS if he runs out on the field. I believe they would have to make a Hollywood movie about it.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

SLEDGEHAMMER?!

Why don’t you call my name?

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hmmmm, I wonder, too.

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by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

As opposed to naked, regular Peter Gabriel?

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by 071903 on Oct 10, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good.

Sounds like it could have been a camping trip gone bad…

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by 071903 on Oct 11, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

How long was Jahvid Best out?

When he dislocated his elbow a few years back. And, maybe HRD can answer, how much help a similar brace to the monster one Best wore would help out and get LBJ back sooner than later?

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by Fishdude on Oct 10, 2011 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I remember, it was an air cast on Best's left (non-carrying) arm

So I’m thinking a brace on LMJ’s ball-carrying arm might not do the trick. We’re all still guessing, but my guess is if MRI showed ligament damage, we’d have already heard about plans for surgery. So it’s probably just a matter of his pain level, and how much he can stand getting his elbow smashed and grabbed while it has a ball tucked in there.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

What kind of braces do they make for a dislocated elbow

I.E. is it a shoulder harness, webbing, etc?

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by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

All depends what the goal of the brace is

Support, immobilization or protection.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 11:49 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

-

For game time it would be something along the lines of this:

Could have a lock out to prevent full extension

by sacduxnutz on Oct 10, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know

will it automatically make him look that stupid?

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I almost shopped that. He is just so damned goofy and, well, white.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 10, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

that guys seems pretty happy to be wearing that brace … imagine how much happier he’d look if he had just run for 200+ yards against ASU

by echo31 on Oct 10, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

No way he could pull it off. He’s not nearly fat enough.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

When my son, Wyatt, was about three weeks old he broke his femur (he has brittle bone disease). It would have been impractical and probably dangerous to put him in a half body cast, so they used something called a Pavlek Harness. It basically just immobilized his legs so the fracture could heal.

Anyway, there was a picture of a baby wearing the harness on the packaging of the harness itself. Like a picture of a baby on a package of diapers or a box of baby food, the baby is wearing this harness and grinning from ear to ear. I can tell you that my son was probably wondering what drugs they gave THAT baby to make him so happy about wearing the harness.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s about 19 months. I have been meaning to do an update post for awhile, since there were a lot of people here who were very supportive of us when he was born. I am making a solemn vow that I will put up a fanpost before the end of the regular season.

In short, he’s doing fantastic. He started walking a little more than a month ago, and other than a freak accident where he fractured his skull right before he turned one, he hasn’t broken any more bones.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Good job, parents. BTW, when his skull was fractured, did he throw up?

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by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, he didn’t. We took him to the ER and they kept him overnight for monitoring to make sure there wasn’t any internal bleeding or damage. It turned out there wasn’t. His face was swollen like a pumpkin, but the next morning he was flirting with the nurses like nothing was wrong.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool. Wha? Just checking to see if this was a case of Wyatt Earp.

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by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perthaps youd wi hr mushtriken

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by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 5:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Atta boy WOLF!

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 10, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can he throw his football yet?

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by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um

Between that brace and that picture, it looks like he may have hyperextended something while hyperextending something.

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by ProbablyMonty on Oct 10, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

or this


Looks more like the one best used in the pic below.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 10, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

best used by Best in the pic below

by echo31 on Oct 10, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

See??

HE’S SO PLAYING ON SATURDAY!

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t there always ligament damage with a dislocated elbow?

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Jay Allen tweeted

that word is that there wasn’t any ligament damage. I know, it’s the twitters, but I generally consider Jay Allen pretty credible.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not always

Dislocation just means the joint got out of place, ligaments are stretchy enough that they might not tear, just depends upon the mechanism of injury.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 11:48 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

LMJ = Stretch Armstrong.

I have it on good authority that when he was a kid growing up in Texas he’d pop his elbow out at recess just to impress the impressionable and gross out the sensitive types.

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by benzduck on Oct 10, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially since this injury had occurred previously. The ligaments were already lengthened due to the HS injury so he could dislocate again without doing too much more damage.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 10, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking the biggest worry is risk of relapse.

LMJ is a warrior. Not just taking his big-mouthed diva word for it – he’s demonstrated it thoroughly. If it’s just a pain issue, he’ll be back sooner than later. I wouldn’t think he’s out more than one game if it’s just a pain/comfort issue.

But risk that it could happen again is obviously a much bigger deal – rushing him back only to lose him for later, or more importantly, risk of rushing him back only to have longterm damage that would affect his NFL prospects or more general later life functionality.

by omb on Oct 10, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think that's likely.

If the dislocation is reduced, that’s all there is to it. It’s no more likely to re-dislocate than it was before.

And assuming no ligaments are torn, but he is still in pain, then he has what equates to a sprain. He’s not going to re-sprain it without a similar freak injury happening again. Sprains take a variable amount of time to heal, but many people play basketball on sprained ankles, for example. The risk is pain and swelling moreso than worsening an injury.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I was thinking of...

Both gold and muck come out of the same shaft...

by Fishdude on Oct 10, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

Don’t know what to make of it. I would not be surprised if he could play, looking at that. I would also not be surprised if he was out for a few weeks.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to the interweb

FWIW….

Best hurt his elbow Sept 27th and was back Oct 18th where he ran for 107yds on 16 carries. He also had 4 receptions for 33 yds. This picture above was taken 2 weeks later on Nov 1st.

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by Fishdude on Oct 10, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

he was quite fumble prone with that thing on as well … if LMJ has one of those, we better have DAT following him every step of the way in order to pick up the fumbles

by echo31 on Oct 10, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lyndon B. Johnson is coming back?!?!?!?!?

by echo31 on Oct 10, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Benz can tell us how well LBJ played back in the day.

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by Fishdude on Oct 10, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big talker on the field. Had decent size at 6’4", 230. Out of Texas, so, solid football background.

Biggest negative was a tendency to run left, combined with an inappropriate propensity for the bomb.

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by benzduck on Oct 10, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eddie Pleasant in Moseley's practice update:
Like I said, he’s a big part of our offense, he does some great things for us, but we can’t hold our head down just because he’s not playing this week."

Doesn’t sound good that he will pull a miracle comeback…

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by flyduckfly on Oct 10, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless that is all part of Big Balls Chip’s master plan. He told all the guys to nonchalantly drop the hint that LMJ won’t play so ASU and their 6’8" QB (Did you know they had a 6’8" QB?) would be caught offguard.

by Pelhament on Oct 10, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can’t believe Eddie let is slip he wouldn’t be playing. He’ll get a few stares for sure.

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He will dress

And decoy. Duck decoy that is.

by doomsdaymachine on Oct 10, 2011 3:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Where the hell is my mustache guarantee?

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by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is, as always, amazing.

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by ProbablyMonty on Oct 10, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love that the pill is better at giving a shocker than the shocker.

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

best line ever

Pop that joint right back in where it belongs!!!!!

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 10, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was quite proud of that one.

I must admit, this is getting harder each week.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

this is getting harder each week.

So the pills are working?

by JonathanPDX on Oct 10, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for the Magic reference

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by FromAutzenWithLove on Oct 10, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was my favorite of all time. His passes were incredible.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Stop taking the pills.

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You have an erection.

Too on point?

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Am I crazy for thinking there is a small chance James plays on Saturday?

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by GMan83201 on Oct 10, 2011 11:28 AM PDT reply actions  

Are you my echo from the future?

I know where I come from, and when you always have in mind where you come from the rest will be easy. I think the rest will be easy.

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by GMan83201 on Oct 10, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well played – as usual.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

it’s hard to be patient sometimes

by echo31 on Oct 10, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The irritating thing about identity theft

is not so much the pain in the ass of contacting my credit card company to alert them that my CC# has been stolen and used on Rhapsody and Amazon Digital Downloads.

It’s the realization that my good name has now been associated with Pitbull, Katy Perry and something called “Lmfao”. And a Hotmail email address.

/mixingflakesofshreddedcreditcardwithtearsofrage

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by benzduck on Oct 10, 2011 11:42 AM PDT reply actions  

But, Pitbull is in charge of having a real good time!

LMFAO. not so much. but they do apparently declare themselves in charge of party anthems. So that’s something.

by scudderfan on Oct 10, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

SUCH a bummer. I once had mine stolen and they charged $1200 AT WALMART. As if.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

They must have purchased the entire store.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Question

Is the uoduckstore the only place you can buy the “I love my ducks” shirts online? One of my friends that lives near Philly wants to get one but they don’t have any larges on there except for pink or tye dye & he doesn’t want those

by The Legend on Oct 10, 2011 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

It’s the only place I was able to find them.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 10, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Yeah it’s the only place I’ve been able to find them, he’s just going to go with a medium

by The Legend on Oct 10, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

You talking about the 'Pillz?'

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by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is this directed towards DAT?
@LATimesklein
Gary Klein
Kiffin on WR Marqise Lee: “He’d be lining up at Oregon probably if we told him he was going to DB.”

by The Legend on Oct 10, 2011 12:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Obvious DAT reference

But I think Kiffikins is being self effacing.

by jfwells on Oct 10, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Kiffin realizes he made a mistake

in trying to make DAT a DB when he didn’t want to play in that position.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 10, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

Priorities for many players aren’t always the priorities for schools. It is my understanding most players wanted DAT to be a CB.

It’s possible that Kiffin wouldn’t have let DAT be on offense at all, unless there was a string of injuries. Does that mean he regrets that? Maybe. Maybe not.

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I seem to remember Carroll beating Oregon for a few prospects

a while by promising them their favorite position, only to stick them somewhere else on the first day of camp. The one that comes to mind most is the LB Campbell, though the way things shook out for him that might not have been a bad miss on our part.

On the other hand, Bellotti was adamant that Allen Bradford could have been making piles of money in the NFL as an early entrant had he come to Oregon and played LB. But USC let him stick at RB, where he was serviceable, and I think got to the league, albeit after a longer and more disappointing college career. And making a lot less than the hypothetical piles.

by omb on Oct 10, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

But also

I think some of these kids don’t give the coaches a fair shake. Both Kiffen and Miles in the DT situation were very surprised by the commitment switch. I have to wonder if DAT & DT really stated their concerns to the coach and gave them a chance to respond. DT says once he heard Miles say ‘You are a great athlete" it was all over for him, while Miles contends that he was always going to compete for a QB position. I think it may have been the same in the DAT case (because you know he’s not a punk- he’s a good kid).

Teenagers are somewhat notorious for not really sharing what’s on their minds. And they don’t always have great self-advocacy skills either.

While I’m thrilled that both of them are here, it’s possible they may have stuck with previous commits if they just had a heart to heart with the coach about their concerns.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

You’re making a large assumption: that Lane Kiffin has a heart.

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pardon you're right

Heart to Fink.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine DT at receiver?

Especially at a school like LSU. I’m actually surprised his offer stood as a non-QB. I don’t think he’s nearly fast enough to play WR.

by Twith on Oct 10, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve seen a couple highlights of DAT at CB it’s just hard to believe that he would be as good a CB as he is RB/WR for us

by The Legend on Oct 10, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe because we're used to seeing players be only good at one position? He's really, really good at several.

What I think makes him so successful in the TZR is he’s not afraid of contact. He’s the anti-Lache (yup, totally went there).

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 10, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

but the guys on USC blogs swear he was always injured in High School (they may be right, I literally had no idea who he was until he sent in his LOI)

by echo31 on Oct 10, 2011 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely.

I’m sure that Kiffin feels that much worse about DAT now that DAT has established himself as a home run threat.

by CaDuck on Oct 10, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you know the ASU qb is 6'8"?

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by BisonDucks on Oct 10, 2011 2:10 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

That's very tall!

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 2:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

He is very mobile too!

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by BisonDucks on Oct 10, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He has a long way to fall

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by webfoot73 on Oct 10, 2011 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't even get me started

I don’t know if it was only regional broadcasts (I’m in the Bay Area), but the VS and CSN news crawlers showed “AL DAVIS DEAD AT 82” onscreen throughout the day. It’s not a national emergency, people!

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 10, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Daisy?

700-pound pelican statue pilfered in California

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by dvieira on Oct 10, 2011 2:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Clearly it was Daisy.

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shhhhh

I’m building a shrine in my backyard. We’ll have a bonfire, and chant the Wheaton wave in honor of the giant pelican. I’m going to serve scotch and good beer. It will be like our Mecca.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

You don’t seriously think I’m doing the cooking, do you?

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't be so defensive.

THE PELICAN IS GOING TO BE DOING THE COOKING.

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by Bill Musgrave on Oct 10, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow

this dream just keeps getting weirder all the time.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

like a record baby, right round, round round

by echo31 on Oct 10, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The wheels on the bus go round and round
All through the town!

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOW I’M BEING CHASED BY A VELOCIRAPTOR AND I HAVE TO TAKE MY FRENCH FINAL BUT I HAVEN’T BEEN TO CLASS ALL TERM!!

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

It really freaks me out how many people have that damn dream.

Minus the velociraptor, of course.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

For me it's my German final

I wonder if languages are more a more common source of dream anxiety than other disciplines?

Someone check that out and let me know. Mmmmmkay?

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by flyduckfly on Oct 10, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too

Sometimes I have it about math, which is ridiculous considering I never took a math class in college.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't have to take classes. I just naturally good at 'random.'

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by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

you are indeed.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thank you, daisy. I knew I could count on you to pick that up

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by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine are random classes, but never from my major. They’re always either my minor classes (minority studies) or the other requirements for a degree. African American literature is the most common to pop up in these dreams, even though I really enjoyed that class.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mine too.

I actually started having them about college AND the high school I went to/teach at. Talk about confusing…

Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.

(Good call, Daisy)

by lovemyducks81 on Oct 10, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can I come out? I’ve always wanted to eat giant pelican.

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a lawn chair in the front row reserved just for you.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awesome. I’ll bring only the best that the Deschutes Brewery has to offer then.

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, um, I think I figured out why 'furd has such a hard time selling tickets.

I found this while looking for a picture of the statue that may or may not be anywhere near Daisy:

I may not have a fancy degree from a fancy university, but at least I know events should be advertised BEFORE the event is scheduled to occur.

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 10, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for recognition...and you DO have a degree from a VERY FANCY university.

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by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

STUPID BOWL PROJECTION SCENARIOS, TAKE 1

NCG: Alabama (13-0) vs. Wisconsin (13-0)
Rose Bowl: Oregon (12-1) vs. Boise State (12-0)

Anyone ready to resume the hatred? Who would you rather play as an at-large Rose Bowl bid if the B1G champ goes to the NCG?

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 2:27 PM PDT reply actions  

BSU wouldn’t get the auto-bid to the Rose Bowl since that happened last year. Hell, they picked Illinois a few years ago. If Michigan can hold things together (which is decently likely considering their schedule), they’d be picked long before BSU.

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 2:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is that part of the non-AQ BCS rules or just your prediction?
BSU wouldn’t get the auto-bid to the Rose Bowl since that happened last year.

Seems like TCU winning last year might boost another nonAQ’s chances. Or do the rules say some other bowl has to go slumming this time?

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last year a non-AQ school, TCU, got an automatic bid to the Rose Bowl because Oregon went to the national title. But that auto-bid rule can only be used once every 4 years (or something like that). So, BSU would have to get an at-large bid to the Rose Bowl, and I don’t think they are getting an at large bid to the Rose Bowl.

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by jtlight on Oct 10, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I looked it up and now it hurts my head.

Source

3. The champion of Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, or the Western Athletic Conference will earn an automatic berth in a BCS bowl game if either:

A. Such team is ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS Standings, or,
B. Such team is ranked in the top 16 of the final BCS Standings and its ranking in the final BCS Standings is higher than that of a champion of a conference that has an annual automatic berth in one of the BCS bowls.
No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year. (Note: a second team may be eligible for at-large eligibility as noted below.) If two or more teams from those conferences satisfy the provisions for an automatic berth, then the team with the highest finish in the final BCS Standings will receive the automatic berth, and the remaining team or teams will be considered for at-large selection if it meets the criteria.

So if BSU wins out, they should be an “AQ” as MWC champion in the top 12 of BCS.

Then:

Team Selection Procedures
The bowls will select their participants from two pools: (1) automatic qualifiers, all of which must be selected, and, (2) at-large teams, if fewer than 10 teams qualify automatically. The following sequence will be used when establishing pairings:

1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings will be placed in the National Championship Game (“NCG”).

2. Unless they qualify to play in the NCG, the champions of selected conferences are contractually committed to host selected games:

Atlantic Coast Conference-Orange Bowl
Big Ten Conference-Rose Bowl
Big 12 Conference-Fiesta Bowl
Pac-10 Conference-Rose Bowl
Southeastern Conference-Sugar Bowl

3. If a bowl loses a host team to the NCG, then such bowl shall select a replacement team from among the automatic-qualifying teams and the at-large teams before any other selections are made. If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get a replacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing the No. 2 team gets the second replacement pick. If the Rose Bowl loses both the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions to the NCG, it will receive two replacement picks.

(For the games of January 2011 through 2014, the first year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG and a team from the non-AQ group is an automatic qualifier, that non-AQ team will play in the Rose Bowl.)

WTF does that last clause mean? Since they lost Oregon to the NCG and TCU fit the non-AQ definition, they had to take TCU to the Rose Bowl? (And then what happens the second year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG?)

Oh and then:

A bowl choosing a replacement team may not select any of the following:

A. A team in the NCG;
B. The host team for another BCS Bowl;
C. When two bowls lose host teams, then the bowl losing the number one team may not select a replacement team from the same conference as the number two team, unless the bowl losing the number two team consents.
4. After steps No. 1, 2 and 3 have been completed, any bowl with an unfilled slot shall select a team from the automatic qualifiers and/or at-large teams in the following order for the games played in 2007 through 2010:

A. The bowl played on the date nearest to the National Championship Game will pick first;
B. The bowl played on the date second-nearest to the National Championship Game will pick second;
C. The bowl hosting the game that is played in the time slot immediately after the Rose Bowl game will pick third.
The selection order noted in paragraphs A, B and C is as follows:
January 2011 games: Sugar, Orange, Fiesta
January 2012 games: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
January 2013 games: Fiesta, Sugar, Orange
January 2014 games: Orange, Sugar, Fiesta

All teams earning automatic berths must be selected.

5. After completion of the selection process as described in Paragraph Nos. 1-4, the conferences and Notre Dame may, but are not required to, adjust the pairings taking into consideration the following:

A. whether the same team will be playing in the same bowl game for two consecutive years;
B. whether two teams that played against one another in the regular season will be paired against one another in a bowl game;
C. whether the same two teams will play against each other in a bowl game for two consecutive years; and
D. whether alternative pairings may have greater or lesser appeal to college football fans as measured by expected ticket sales for the bowls and by expected television interest, and the consequent financial impact on Fox and the bowls.
The pairings may not be altered by removing the Big Ten Champion or Pac-10 champion from the Rose Bowl.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus Christ

Cliff Notes please??

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

WTF does that last clause mean? Since they lost Oregon to the NCG and TCU fit the non-AQ definition, they had to take TCU to the Rose Bowl? (And then what happens the second year the Rose Bowl loses a team to the NCG?)

They can pick whoever they want but they are no longer required to take a non-AQ school.

by Pelhament on Oct 10, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that was the “fuck you rose bowl for taking Illinois and leaving Non-AQ teams to everyone else” clause they added.

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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically...

The Rose Bowl loves Pac-X v. Big 10. It’s their raison d’etre.

Last year, they lost a Pac-12 team, and were contractually required to take a non-AQ qualifier. This was a one-shot deal the other BCS bowls insisted on because the Rose, with 2 auto-bids, was never stuck with low-profit non-BCS teams. The deal required them to take a non-BCS qualifier the first time that they lost a school to the NCG within the next 4 years, starting last year. Had they not been so required, they would have taken Stanford.

So now they’ve met that Req, and are free to choose whoever they want whenever they lose a team in the next 3 years. Losing an auto-pick gives you first (or second behind the other NCG team) dibs on at-larges. There are 6 auto-quallies plus 4 at-larges. A Non-BCS team can automatically claim 1 at-large, which would leave 3 at-large spots left for the BCS bowl to choose at will. The Rose, then, would be guaranteed their choice of a BCS conference at-large, free to choose any Big-10 team they wanted, so long as they met basic BCS requirements (and a second Big Ten team hadn’t already been selected by the Sugar Bowl, if losing #1 Alabama, which is just not going to happen since they’ll grab the 2nd SEC team). And they would definitely, certainly, positively do so if at all possible before taking fbsu.

by omb on Oct 10, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I watched that stupid video on ESPN.com

BCS Poll: The 3 month contest where sportscasters try to say the phrase, “IN CONTROL OF THEIR OWN DESTINY!” more than all the other sportscasters.

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 10, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oregon v. Michigan please.

Also wouldn’t mind Oregon v. Nebraska. I’d think that the Rose Bowl, if it lost Wisconsin, would love to have either. No effing way would they pass either up for fbsu.

by omb on Oct 10, 2011 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd take a shot at Nebraska almost as readily as another shot at Ohio St

Although the latter’s not likely, and we’ve actually beaten Nebraska in the past 60 years.

Michigan? Meh. We own them.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Oct 10, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

which means the final score would be something more like 19 – 17

by echo31 on Oct 10, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was/is b-yu-tee-full, benz-d

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, no, no, no.

No, NO, NO. NO. NO. NO. NOOOOOOO.

But it won’t happen anyway since the non-AQ’s got their end of that contractual clause last year, and if given the option, the Rose Bowl powers that be wouldn’t select a non-AQ team over a team with all the “history” of a Big Ten team.

Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall

by ProbablyMonty on Oct 10, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops, that was meant to be a replay to TQA8

Can you imagine, though? O/U of an Oregon-Michigan game would be around 80, I bet.

by Pelhament on Oct 10, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, yeah, but Michigan actually doesn’t have a defense. Auburn had one.

"I don't do well with pain medicine."

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 10, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I couldn’t disagree with you less

by Pelhament on Oct 10, 2011 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really, now?

"I don't do well with pain medicine."

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 10, 2011 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Oct 10, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I could disagree with you more

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 10, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Auburn didn’t have a defense. Then they played our offense.

by westspec on Oct 10, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Their defense is improved,

But that means very little. They went from the worst defense that I have seen any traditional power ever have, to a merely average, if that, defense.

by CaDuck on Oct 10, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone

needs to where this for Gameday this weekend.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 10, 2011 5:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Sorry, already picked up my sign material.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

One yellow posterboard, one can of green spray paint, one roll of packing tape

$5.10 Walmart is good for some things.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

What did you spend Daisy’s remaining $1194.90 on?

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 10, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Duh.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Twitters are ablaze...

Captain Tantrum is out the door?

Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.

(Good call, Daisy)

by lovemyducks81 on Oct 10, 2011 5:29 PM PDT reply actions  

There's supposed to be a press conference in 30 minutes.

Dr. Saturday just tweeted that it would be “the stupidest firing since I’ve been doing this” if he is fired. I’d love for him to clarify that.

"I don't do well with pain medicine."

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 10, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

He should’ve been fired for his crappy sideline demeanor even if his team had managed an FCS win in the last bazillion games.

Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.

(Good call, Daisy)

by lovemyducks81 on Oct 10, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

Part of my motivation for watching the Texas shellacking was to confirm how douchey Mike really is.

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 10, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

They did manage an FCS win this year.

Anyway, I still have to think about it every time I type it, too. CAN WE PLEASE GO BACK TO CALLING IT DIVISION ONE PLEASE?

Now with mustache guarantee!

by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 10, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gah. I meant FBS. I blame the fever.

I agree about calling it Division 1, though.

Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.

(Good call, Daisy)

by lovemyducks81 on Oct 10, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently Tim Kish is the interim head coach.

I feel like total garbage (freaking germ-riddled children!) so I don’t care enough to look up who that is, but apparently people who are in the know have that much information.

Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.

(Good call, Daisy)

by lovemyducks81 on Oct 10, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are a loving step-mom to those sickly starving children you sweet woman of beauty.

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You wouldn't give that compliment if you could see me right now

But I’ll thank you anyway. I was not especially loving today, either. Three classes had to finish work on their presentations in complete and total silence because they were DRIVING ME CRAZY. Could have been the fever adding to the crazy, though. I think I might have hallucinated a paper ball flying across the floor once or twice, because I couldn’t find said projectiles moments later.

Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.

(Good call, Daisy)

by lovemyducks81 on Oct 10, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

You just needed a "quack fix' hunnee.

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tim Kish:

       Tim Kish was promoted to co-defensive coordinator after the 2009 season and assumed solo coordinator duties for the Alamo Bowl appearance and beyond in December 2010.

He’s one of the nation’s most-veteran defensive coaches and has established himself as one of the nation’s top recruiters.
http://www.arizonawildcats.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/kish_tim00.html

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

ucLOLa can't hire Mike Leach if he's already at UA.
Byrne said a search for Stoops’ successor would begin immediately. “I expect the search to end sometime after the regular season is over,” he said. “We will make the best decision for Arizona Football, and we are open to a variety of candidates, but the next time you will hear anything from me about this search will be when we introduce our new coach,” he said.

Linky.

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 10, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Petersen? Bellotti?

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Belotti

I hope not. His game calling has really improved (initially, I found him to lack vocal variation and too soft spoken). Also, it would suck to have him in the Pac-N.

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 11, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Leach could make sense.

Arizona is already equipped to run an air-raid attack.

by CaDuck on Oct 10, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bruce Feldman

http://twitter.com/#!/BFeldmanCBS/status/123554097403133955

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 5:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow

I am actually surprised by this. I would have thought that they would have given him the season.
See, it just goes to show you that nice guys don’t always finish last. Mike Riley has 1 win at OSU and he’s not getting fired. But a 1 win asshat like Stoops gets no benefit of the doubt.

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by daisyduck on Oct 10, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Rec'd with irony ablazin'.

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Oct 10, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?

My name is not Bryce.

by Im Chris Hansen on Oct 10, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

They should at least let him be the mascot

Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?

My name is not Bryce.

by Im Chris Hansen on Oct 10, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

BUT, BUT,

WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO WITH ALL MY STOOPS MEMES?

Go Team! Score Six Goal Units!

by FromAutzenWithLove on Oct 10, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Keep posting them for posthumous humor.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am so happy that Stoops is gone

The crying asshat deserves to go back to being a defensive coordinator. There was a good point made by the twitterz that Bob Stoops could have an opening if his hotshot D coordinator Will Venables gets a head job somewhere.

but for now, STOOPS SMASH has become STOOPS WHIMPER!!!!!!!!

The Beavs should get a few extra recruiting hours or something.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 6:05 PM PDT reply actions  

The beavs are now the PAC-12 benchmark

if you cant beat them you are done

Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?

My name is not Bryce.

by Im Chris Hansen on Oct 10, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry Matt Daddy

we took a poll in J201, and apparently bloggers aren’t journalists. In fact, they’re far from it.

Guess you’re still a putz.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 6:35 PM PDT reply actions  

to be perfectly honest

I wouldn’t mind seeing mike stoops as our D coordinator. I still have issues with allioti and seeing chip and stoops try and work together would be hilarious

by lostkauze on Oct 10, 2011 6:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I must agree

That would be pretty funny

Win the Day and GO DUCKS!!!

by David the Duck on Oct 10, 2011 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

C'mon profile pic!

I opted to go with Osweiler. Nothing could possibly stop Vontaze Burfict. I am pretty sure that if he found out that I attempted to stop him, he would hurt me.

It makes sense that Brock Osweiler attends ASU. His tattoo states "live life to it's fullest". The error is subtle, yet it is embarrassing regardless.

by CaDuck on Oct 10, 2011 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

Good job man.

Has anyone heard this guy is 6’8?

Euler's #1 fan

by Bill Musgrave on Oct 10, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

In honor of Brock Osweiler, I am going to incorrectly use “it’s”, “its’”, and “its” this week.

"I don't do well with pain medicine."

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Oct 10, 2011 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

That tattoo is my facebook profile pic of the week.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey did you guys know that Osweiler is 6'8"?

And did you also know that Zach Maynard and Keenan Allen WERE BROTHERS?

Go Team! Score Six Goal Units!

by FromAutzenWithLove on Oct 10, 2011 9:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey guys,

Did you know that Andrew Luck is a very talented young man? Yeah, Musburger just reminded me.

Oh yeah, Brock Osweiler is 6’ 8" tall.

It makes sense that Brock Osweiler attends ASU. His tattoo states "live life to it's fullest". The error is subtle, yet it is embarrassing regardless.

by CaDuck on Oct 10, 2011 9:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Also, Jerome Bettis is from Detroit.

And Ray Allen’s mom goes to every one of his games.

Addicted to Quack, #1 Oregon blog among female Duck fans, including the ageless and ever-radiant daisyduck.

by Takimoto on Oct 10, 2011 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you know that when Brent Musburger is calling a game

you’re generally looking at it live?

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 10, 2011 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did you know that this is for all the tostitos®?

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Oct 11, 2011 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

So Stoops gets $1.4 million to *not* make an ass of himself weekly.

I should be happier about this than I am.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Oct 10, 2011 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

That’s a lot better than my unemployment used to be.

Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day

by webfoot73 on Oct 11, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

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