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Quack Fix: Injuries take center stage as Oregon prepares for Colorado

It's another quick hit fix today.  Enjoy! 

 

As usual, don't forget to check out the video after the jump featuring Chip Kelly after practice on Monday.

Go Ducks!

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We offered recent USC de-commit & one of the top recruits in the country Arik Armstead today

by The Legend on Oct 18, 2011 7:27 AM PDT reply actions  

Let's hope he takes a visit...

It would be great to get a few players with that kind of athleticism and size.

"It’s great with these group of guys. There is no panic in them." --Chip Kelly, Clearly NOT talking about members of ATQ.

@jblair26

by M. Fletcher on Oct 18, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's deja vu all over again

Both gold and muck come out of the same shaft...

by Fishdude on Oct 18, 2011 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oops. That’s what I get for rushing the fix today.

by ntrebon on Oct 18, 2011 8:02 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

OT:

Carson Palmer is traded to the Raiders for 2 high draft picks a 1 & a 2 that can turn into a 1. There backup option was Vince Young:(

by The Legend on Oct 18, 2011 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Wow

Mike Brown really came out smelling like roses on this one. Everyone was banging on him about the Palmer debacle, but Dalton has been pretty good and the Bengals have surprised many.

KU fans-how I hate thee!

by quack785 on Oct 18, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah the Bengals have been better then I thought they would be, I thought they would be one of the front runners for Luck

by The Legend on Oct 18, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Never would have thought the Colts would be in that discussion.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 18, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Shows how valuable Payton is.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

He should win the MVP this year not playing a snap. It’s never been so clear.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 18, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

MVN?

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most Vipers Nap

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Most Valuable Neck?

I feel bad for Colorado. They are the new WSU.

by CaDuck on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

My Velociraptor Nipples?

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 18, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Missing Vital Nosehairs?

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Musky Virgin Nerds?

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Go Dolphins!

Get that Luck.

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 18, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Remember preseason when the assumption was that the Niners were going to "Suck for Luck?"

Especially considering Harbaugh was coaching?

Pretty funny.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Harbaugh’s good enough he doesn’t really need an Andrew Luck to field a competitive team. The dophins? hahahahahahahahahaha

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 18, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

The real question for me is if the Colts would hold onto that pick.

Or do they draft Luck, season him as Peyton’s backup for a year or two and then hand over the reins.

They clearly have a lot of needs elsewhere, so could draft for that or trade for it.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Have to take Luck. Let him sit and learn behing Peyton for a couple three years then unleash him.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 18, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

They could ransom that pick

god, if Carson Palmer’s worth 2 #1s, what’s Luck worth?

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how much longer Manning's got

I don’t see them bringing him back this year now that it’s wasted. That might actually extend his career. Let his neck recuperate completely and the rest of his aging body for that matter.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or he might never be the same again. It’s a gamble. If you’re convinced Manning is back to 100% and should be for the next few years, you deal the pick. But if there’s any sense that Manning might not fully recover, you have to draft Luck and play the Rodgers/Favre game for a couple seasons.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

if Peyton ever plays again that is

by echo31 on Oct 18, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you guys (and gals)

think Hoffman is starting over Vaughn?

Just guessing I would say blocking.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 18, 2011 9:13 AM PDT reply actions  

This is what Mosely discusses at length in the link above

I think that Oregon is really focusing on the run and passes to the RB this year even more so than last. I’m not sure this is because we don’t have the receivers we had last year or a strategic shift but an emphasis has been placed on blocking WR over speedy ones.

That being said, great to see Huff’s manhandling of his DB on that DAT TD. If Huff can continue to block like that while being the vertical and leaping threat he is he will be a major weapon on both running and passing downs.

by OregonNYC on Oct 18, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Huff has really been improving since he’s been healthy. Unfortunately, he had 2 big-ish drops against ASU. If he gets that cleaned up, he’ll be money.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Oct 18, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do hope he limits his drops

Since he’s like the only receiver that can get some YAC on our receiving corp

by skyo12 on Oct 18, 2011 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

God, that 2nd one was such a great throw...

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, those drops were 50/50-esque

but Huff didn’t seem prone to drops last year and has made some really good ones this year, I think they were just a fluke

by OregonNYC on Oct 18, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huff had plenty of disappointing drops last year

by echo31 on Oct 18, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

This year, yes...

I mean we’ll always ask out WRs to be outstanding blockers (it’s how they earn playing time), but look at the skill and speed that is redshirting this year. We’re going to be lethal at WR in a couple years if those guys pan out.

"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden

by kolson82 on Oct 18, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because they play different positions. Vaughn is Huff’s backup.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Surely Vaughn could be more productive from that spot than Hoffman, except perhaps blocking.

/stopcallingmeshirley

by sacduxnutz on Oct 18, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, the receivers aren’t quite plug-n-play in our offense.

It’s hard stretched for me to see Hoffman being better than Vaughn, but the coaches have their little tests to help show where the players are best at.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bu....bu...HOFFMAN CAUGHT THE BALL!!! EVERY TIME!!!!!!!

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's a question

Anyone else think Beard might not be hurt/disciplined/etc., but may have just lost his job to Maldonado?

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 9:17 AM PDT reply actions  

I was thinking that Maldonado was playing great so may have taken over the starting job.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 18, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Beard has a much stronger leg though

I worry about anything over 50 with Maldonado, and I would like to see kickoffs going into the endzone again rather that some of the kicks we see landing around the 20 at times.

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by Quack Addict on Oct 18, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Kickoffs are the biggest difference I see. I don’t remember the last kicker we had who could consistently put the ball in the endzone.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 18, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

25 Jared Siegel

He’s the last great PK we had and that was 10 years ago. That dude had a hell of a leg and I think could still be kicking in the pros had he chosen to go. He holds most of the Oregon PK records and at least for a time was oregon’s all time leading scorer, don’t know if that still stands or not. I’ll never forget his 57 yard FG at UCLA to win the game. I want more of that from the kicking game.

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by Quack Addict on Oct 18, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Back in the day, we had great kickers and punters consistently

Including a couple with NFL careers in Bidwell and Tommy Thompson.

The last 10 years, not so much. Probably just luck.

by eloomis20 on Oct 18, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's also hard to evaluate punters and PAT/FG kickers in CK's scheme

Because he rarely bothers with them. I like Jackson Rice a lot, but I want LSU’s punter. That guy is a boss.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really like Rice

He can boom the ball 61 yards down field or he can stick the ball on the 5 yard line. I mean seriously? Did you see the punt on saturday that he stuck like a golf shot? That ball bounced right in front of me, straight up and just settled down on the 5 yard line perfectly. I’ve been very, very pleased with our punting this year all around.

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by Quack Addict on Oct 18, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

uggh
I hate couscous, foul little fake pasta nibblets

by sacduxnutz on Oct 18, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know, that’s my impression of the stuff as well, although I just think it’s meh.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm on SDN's side

Couscous is wannabee rice/pasta/something

Quinoa is fantastic.

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are correct

Difference is, couscous tastes better.

Clean and peel a pumpkin. Boil it until tender. Fill with cooked lamb couscous and then bake. My oh my. Quinoa can’t do that

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Oct 18, 2011 9:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is where you lost him

Fill with cooked lamb

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 18, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, I know

but it can’t be replaced

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Oct 18, 2011 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can one substitute cooked tofurky?

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had some veggie buffalo wings the other day

not that bad.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 19, 2011 12:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Best line you've ever spit out.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ever?

You’re working from a pretty limited sample set there, son.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

You usually articulate things pretty well. Not a lot of spitting.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Drool and spit are two different actions!

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

At my age they’re hard to tell apart.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 10:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s a pressure thing that doesn’t just affect spit.

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by webfoot73 on Oct 19, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

#teamcouscous

I love that stuff.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Orzo

is what couscous wants to be.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 19, 2011 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Orzo I can get behinds.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 19, 2011 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do too, but I find that the majority of people I know, don’t like couscous.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Prolly cuz they don’t know how to cook it properly.

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 19, 2011 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

quinoa is highly underutilized

and excellent grain, and a complete protein to boot.

--Dave

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by David Piper on Oct 18, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is why I can’t eat brown rice.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 19, 2011 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you using the prewashed or non-prewashed variety? Quinoa has a starchy coating that needs to be rinsed off.

They usually aren’t marked either way and often don’t state in the directions (if buying in a box) you have to rinse it. I’m never sure, so I always rinse it in a small strainer until the water runs clean. I buy it in the bulk foods section at Whole Paycheck.

My favorite way of prepping it is to toast t in a dry pan for 6-8 minutes (longer for rinsed varieties, as they will still be wet) on med-high until the seeds start to pop. I will sometimes toast a large batch and store it. A friend recently told me you can cook it in a rice cooker. It’s super easy that way, but i only if you have a rice cooker that has removable parts that are easy to wash.

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 19, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not sure,

my wife makes it and we buy it in bags from Trader Joe’s. I’ll ask her to rinse it next time and see if that helps.

My parents believed in me.

by flyduckfly on Oct 19, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rice is about as good as you can get.

That’s why some are putting him on A-A lists. Distance, touch, whatever, he has it.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 18, 2011 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Luck can kick too?
Probably just luck

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by webfoot73 on Oct 18, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have great memories of Siegel. Making the bird wings with our hands every time he came out to kick.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

I feel like there is another kicker since Jared Siegel that was crazy good, but his name is escaping me.

It wasn’t Martinez, though he had a strong leg, and seemed to make everything over 40 yards.

I still like Matt Evenson, because when he DID kick the ball in bounds, he seemed to always make the freaking tackle at the 22 yard line.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Martinez couldn’t kick from the left hash to save his life. He made everything from the right.

by INducktrination on Oct 18, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Think the succession went...

Siegel – Martinez – Evenson – Flint – Beard

by Twith on Oct 18, 2011 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you’re right. I just making up some imaginary kicker in my head.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have also noticed this

but our coverage still seems to take returners down inside the 25 despite it. I wonder if Maldonado gets more hangtime even if he doesn’t kick as far.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

I suspect that as well.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

On punts, it's amazing to me how often DAT has time to strike up a conversation with the kick returner

Before the ball even gets there. Combination of fantastic hang time and his fantastic speed…good stuff!

Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.

(Good call, Daisy)

by lovemyducks81 on Oct 18, 2011 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

What's the longest return we've given up with Maldonado, though?

It’s quite possible to out-kick your coverage.

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

on Punts, yes

not so easy to do on kickoffs, since they all start at the same place

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Oct 18, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, it's actually quite easy to do on kickoffs as well.

Kickoffs will generally have less hang time than punts, but go even further. If a kciker drives one low and the returner catches it 2 yards deep, but the hangtime was barely over 3 seconds, then they are going to run it back and have to make their first move at ~20 yard line anyways….plus they have a head of steam.

If, on the other hand, a kickoff drops in at the 5 yard line, but the ball was in the air for 4 full seconds, your entire kickoff team is 10 yards closer to them.

I don't mean to impose...

by TheOcean on Oct 18, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but I've always heard the term "outkicking coverage"

as a punt that is too long, not too fast. Low line-drive kicks get coverage teams in trouble all the time. But the principle is the same, I suppose

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Oct 18, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess from my vantage point

Maldonado has been consistent on his kickoffs with a hang-time that is better than Beard (who kicks more of a line drive IIRC), and was a more accurate kicker in fall camp than Beard to begin with.

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

When was a Duck not a Duck?

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by Famous Duck on Oct 18, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

EEEAAAAASSSLLLEEEEY!!!

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

GRAAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNT!!!

though on second thought, they’re probably going

HUUUUUUUUUUUFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!!!

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It depends

is she made of wood?

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by flyduckfly on Oct 18, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

When he was a Siegel.

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by Famous Duck on Oct 18, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not always.

Case in point is the UT punter last year. Too long AND too fast.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 18, 2011 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Too easy
Too long AND too fast.

TWSS

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are right, although there is a distinct relationship between how far the ball can be kicked and how long it should hang in the air. If you boom a 60 yard punt, but hang it in the air for 5 seconds (which is looooonnnnnnggg), you are not really out kicking your coverage (add another 1.5 – 2 seconds from the snap of the ball to the kick and you are looking at 6.5-7 seconds for your gunners to cover those yards).

The same thing is true of kickoffs, and I know that in practice, kickers usually have ‘targets’ they are trying to hit both for length AND for hangtime. So a kickoff that reaches the endzone but falls short of the time target is considered to be poor. (All this is to say, it is very possible that Maldonado isn’t first and foremost trying to put the ball in the endzone.)

I don't mean to impose...

by TheOcean on Oct 18, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

YES

I said this last week and was accused of wearing a tinfoil hat.

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by daisyduck on Oct 18, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was a very stylish and cute tinfoil hat though. It had that Class A designer look.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Only less photoshoppy.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well

I am blond, and I have been to Nevada before, so YES it must be me.

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by daisyduck on Oct 18, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Are you a NATURAL blond though?

/runsandhides

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would've just proceeded straight to the carpet and drapes joke here.

But then again, I’ve got fewer morals than you.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

But just think how few he'll have left

by the time he’s your age. Grasshopper is precocious that way.

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by daisyduck on Oct 18, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Was it a green and yellow tinfoil hat?

…because that would make some sense.

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@jblair26

by M. Fletcher on Oct 18, 2011 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Who thinks UW covers against Stanford?

The Furd is about a 20.5 favorite at home.

"I love Oregon's obsolete recruiting report on an unhealthy level. Just more proof how balla Chip Kelly really is." Dr. Saturday

by BisonDucks on Oct 18, 2011 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

I do. I think that winds up being a relatively close game. I think Furd wins, but only by a couple scores.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

After reading dawgpound yesterday,

I want the Furd to curb stomp them but I think you’re right. Part of me also wants the Furd’s defense to be exposed. The paltry 60 rushing yards a game they are giving up seems way too good.

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by BisonDucks on Oct 18, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s somewhat a mirage. I’m sure their rush D is solid, but they’ve also laid the beatdown on most teams they played. You have to figure those teams are primarily passing in the second half.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt their run D is any better this year than it was last year, and I think I recall us doing okay against them in the run game.

And it’s the Jaaaaames show.

Yes it was, Brent. Yes it was. 257 yards on 31 carries and 3 rushing TDs? Yeah that’s a decent game I guess.

by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 18, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

That just reminds me of how far downhill Musberger has gone. He’s becoming almost unlistenable. I like Herbstreit, and I appreciate Herbie’s efforts to salvage a coherent broadcast, but it takes a herculean effort to cover for Brent. Musberger was fantastic in his day, but he’s lost that lovin’ feeling.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I shook my head sadly at his comments a number of times.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The main problem I have is that he seems to have decided not to learn anything new about football in the past 10 years or so. One of FishDuck’s videos shows him calling the zone read a QB keeper. And there are countless other examples of it. You’d think that if your job was to call college football games, and some new concept was introduced, you’d take 30 minutes out of a day at SOME point and watch a video. Or hell, TALK TO CHIP KELLY during the week leading up to the game.

To be fair, this is the case with a whole lot of commentators. I can see why they might not know about it when it’s brand new, but at some point you’d think they’d have to learn about it. I mean, when there’s some thing being discussed in a meeting at work and I don’t understand what’s being discussed, I’m breaking out my phone and Goggle-ing it. At the very least I’m looking it up after the meeting. And I’m doing so because it drives me insane not to know. I can’t even imagine not knowing some concept as integral as the zone read is to college football in my own job and not going out and learning about it on my own so I don’t sound like an ignoramus.

by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 18, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have a problem with Musberger saying it was a QB keeper, because it kind of was. Maybe not in terms of it being a designed run, but he elected to keep the ball on the option. It’s not like he called it a quarterback draw.

I have problems with Musberger saying “This is for all the tostitos!”

Also, our pace presents a challenge for all announcers.

Despite that, I think he is a bit past his prime.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have a problem with Musberger saying it was a QB keeper, because it kind of was.

Meh. Are you saying that you think that he knew it was a zone read and he read the defensive end and kept it? Or are you just arguing semantics? Because I feel like him saying it’s a QB keeper is either because he thinks it was a designed run. There’s no way to prove or disprove what he thinks. Do you think that he understands the zone read and the run-based spread offense?

by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 18, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you think that he understands the zone read and the run-based spread offense?

I think he does, but I don’t think he’s quick enough to recognize it when it happens. But I don’t think most people are. Everyone in my section knows “Thomas should have kept that one!” but they didn’t see what Thomas saw.

He’s also seen Herbstreit break it down a gazillion times.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

To be fair to Musberger, I think he knows about the IZR etc

but he isn’t there to tell you about details or nuance, and 85% (/randomassnumber) of people watching don’t care about IZR vs keeper, they just want to hear that sweet old man sportscaster voice call out what they see.

by OregonNYC on Oct 18, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

He’s also seen Herbstreit break it down a gazillion times.

…and continues to call it a QB keeper. Whether he understands it or not we’ll never be able to prove either way. Either you are correct and he understands it and continues to call it the wrong thing (it may kinda be a QB keeper, but it’s not a QB keeper), or he doesn’t understand it – either way my point is that he (and many others in the national media) don’t call it what it is, despite it having been around for a long time and despite it being their job to know it.

I think he does, but I don’t think he’s quick enough to recognize it when it happens. But I don’t think most people are. Everyone in my section knows "Thomas should have kept that one!" but they didn’t see what Thomas saw.

I don’t think expecting someone to know that Oregon is running a zone read is anywhere near diagnosing, on the spot, whether or not the QB made the correct read.

by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 18, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t make sense why it would be a big deal or that it’s incorrect. When teams ran a triple option/wishbone offenses, everyone called it a QB keeper – or an option keeper. Out of a spread, when he keeps the option, it isn’t?

I don’t think expecting someone to know that Oregon is running a zone read is anywhere near diagnosing, on the spot, whether or not the QB made the correct read.

I think it is. Because it’s still making a call out of ignorance. There was a run where Barner got ate up and tackled for a loss. Everyone said Thomas should have kept it when it wasn’t even a zone read option – you can tell because Thomas was just looking at handing the ball off.

But I can see your point. Musberger isn’t analyzing. He’s just making the call as seen. This is actually something I think FishDuck kinda needs to chill out about. He rags on media members and their incorrect calling of something – but he admittedly spends HOURS looking at footage and breaking it down. It’s extremely arrogant of him to take shots at people making play-by-play and color commentary when they have to look at something once (and look at it live), and comment on it. (Don’t misunderstand me, I respect the hell out of the guy, and I love the videos and articles he’s been doing, especially since his site went up)

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Done.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had a few sentences as a rebuttal, but I’m just going to stop now because debating semantics makes me tired as shit. It only bothers me that the announcers don’t get the shit right because it’s somewhat condescending…like saying, “I’m not going to bother learning this spread offense thingy because it’s just a fad and can’t beat smash mouth football and get off my lawn”. I’m too tired to debate whether identifying a play is the same as identifying whether the mechanics of that play were identified and executed correctly without seeing a single replay.

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by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 18, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

<3

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO, YOU'RE LESS THAN THREE, MOTHERFUCKER!

I don’t know why, I’ve just always wanted to say that.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would have been so much better if you reply failed it though. Just a random new subthread starting with:

NO, YOU’RE LESS THAN THREE, MOTHERFUCKER!
I don’t know why, I’ve just always wanted to say that.

People would have assumed you went off the deep end.

by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 18, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

WRONG THREAD!

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is Musgrave on that other thread?

/alternativeuniverse

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by Famous Duck on Oct 18, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow...

thread hijack.

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by BisonDucks on Oct 18, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm sure he understands it

when he’s working for 3 hours i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt.

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by jcgoducks on Oct 18, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Waaaaayyy past his bedtime.

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by daisyduck on Oct 18, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If they are from Puerto Rico

Why is the album cover in Chinese?

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by daisyduck on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

And the title in English?

I’m as confused as you are.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

The title in in English with Japanese below it

because in Japan absolutely every product that is in anyway trying to be cool is in English, because English and America is super cool.

Japan effectively has 4 alphabets: Chinese symbols(the first character in the line below “Menudo”), 1 alphabet for Japanese words (the 2nd character), 1 alphabet for foreign words(the rest of that line) , and the Roman alphabet.

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by OregonNYC on Oct 18, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Ekusuprojyan" actually means

“Excuse me, do you have a Trojan”

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Oct 18, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you replace that with

“Excuse me, no need for a Trojan and where did my octopus go?” then yes, you got it

by OregonNYC on Oct 18, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

“Ekusuprojykif” means

"Excuse me, do you have a Kiffin"

oops, same thing, but used?

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by webfoot73 on Oct 18, 2011 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

'09 Arizona

I remember very clearly when I knew musberger was done, the 2009 Oregon Arizona game, herbstreit was sick and off his game. The defining moment was when they showed the replay of the FG bouncing through the uprights and all we got was silence and as the ball goes through the upright, musberger manages a “doink”. It was awesome and horrifying all at the same time. Madmike’s replay has it.

by Bandduck23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny, I don't remember Mushberger ever being "fantastic"

At best he was tolerable.

I still can’t get over him continually calling Walton the “MOUNTAIN MAN!” during the ’77 playoffs.

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Maybe I’m playing it up a bit in my mind. Or maybe it was just that he was a lot better than he was now. I really like his voice – he’s got a good play-by-play voice.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

He's historically intelligent and has a good voice, a passable knowledge of the game.

So he was always tolerable. Even last year I felt like he and Herbstreit did well together. Saturday was a shit-show though. He was just horrendous. I sensed Herbie had some awkward silences after some of the things Brent said.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

BYU-Oregon '89. I rest my case your Honor.

Seriously. I was at this game and a buddy of mine who had to watch it on TV was appalled at how far Musburger’s tongue was up Ty Detmer’s butthole.

“If only the Heisman winner Detmer could lead a come back…” (somewhere late in the 3rd quarter when that game was WAY out of reach.)

Real. Professional. Douchebag.

No love for Musburger.

Keith Jackson in his prime was the best. His later years his age really showed. I’m glad he retired with a modicum of dignity

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by the_Duckinator on Oct 18, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have zero problems with an announcer fawning over great players. They make a difference.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let's face it

Musbergers cliches are so predictable and tiresome. They need to get someone interesting in there.

by doomsdaymachine on Oct 18, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

You really snapped that off

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 18, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

You gave that comment 110%.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Folks, that was a dandy comment for ya.

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by M. Fletcher on Oct 19, 2011 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I recall correctly, James didn't have any rushes for negative yards in the game.

which is insane.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 18, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was listening to the Solid Verbal yesterday

And they went off on how Musberger knew about Amanda Plugard’s dating situation.

It seems like Musberger is more interested in researching in-game stories not related to Football than the actual game. It’s a shame because I think he has the best play by play voice in all of College Football.

by skyo12 on Oct 18, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

he has the best play by play voice in all of College Football.

I’d venture that he has the most recognizable voice.

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps he misunderstands what "color commentary" actually means

I like Verne Lundquist a lot.. He was the only thing that made Petros Papadakis palatable.

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 18, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Musburger isn’t a color commentator. He’s a voiceover/play-by-play.

/pedantic’d

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know

That’s why it makes even less sense that he’s telling us who Amanda is dating.

/ok,soI’mpissedit’snotmeisthatsowrong?

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 18, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's not there to be an analyst.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's true

Even so, I have no idea why he went off on discoling a former cheerleader of Oregon is dating the ASU Offensive Coordinator’s daughter lol

He’s getting a bit creepy

by skyo12 on Oct 18, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

I feel bad for Colorado. They are the new WSU.

by CaDuck on Oct 18, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I DIDN'T EVEN SAY ANYTHING

jeez.

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the plus side, if they can become good and sustain being good for a while,

It might demonstrate to a lot of Oregon bashers what insufferable arrogance actually looks like…

by omb on Oct 18, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm thinking they will

I could see them being down by 24 with about 4 mins left in the game and getting the ball back and driving down to score a TD to get it within 17 at the end of the game.

by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 18, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I dont.

The game will stay close until the second half. In the second half, UW’s pass defense will get exposed, and then some. If Stanford actually had good receivers other than tight ends and Owusu (who doesnt seem to do anything consistently), they would win by 30.

I feel bad for Colorado. They are the new WSU.

by CaDuck on Oct 18, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

UW's D is one of the worst in the country

They allow almost 6 yards a play. They’ll eventually get stopped enough on offense and get blown out.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 18, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Am I in trouble if I don't mind washington winning that game?

A) it knocks Stanford down a rung in the conference race
B) it means that beating them in seattle will hurt much more than if it were a 5-3 washington team.

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

It won't help our BCS rankings in the long run.

If we win out of course. Not to mention it is the fuckies we are talking about.

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by PondJunky on Oct 18, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't give a rats ass about the BCS rankings

it’s more about the fact that if Uw beats stanford, we beat stanford and we beat Uw, we have a cushion on all of them. So we could lose to USC or OSU (god forbid) and still win the division.

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

If we lose to OSU this season, we might win the division, but we lose our souls.

Interesting/terrifying/hypothetical/wedon’tdealinthose question here: Would losing to a 1 – 10 OSU team taint the season for you even if we went on to win the Rose Bowl?

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

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by skywaker9 on Oct 18, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Losing to OSU would be redeemed by a win in the RB

but the month between the CW and the RB would suuuuuck

by OregonNYC on Oct 18, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it’s assumed we would have a conference title game in there to cheer us up a little bit.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that would be ok, but Conf championships we've got

RB wins (damn you fiesta bowl!) we don’t. Only a RB win could sooth the agony of losing to a 1-10 baver team

by OregonNYC on Oct 18, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't give a rats ass about the BCS rankings

it’s more about the fact that if Uw beats stanford, we beat stanford and we beat Uw, we have a cushion on all of them. So we could lose to USC or OSU (god forbid) and still win the division.

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

UW does not have a conference loss yet.

If UW beats them, and Stanford beats us… UW is in the drivers seat for the north.

I could stomach Stanford going to the first conference championship game. I can’t stomach UW going.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

how would this play out.

UW beats Stanford, we lose to Stanford and beat UW. I’m pretty sure we would still go to the championship game.

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by PondJunky on Oct 18, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wouldn’t Stanford go in that scenario? Assuming everyone else wins out. I would think that Stanford would get the tiebreakers since they’ll only have one loss while we would have two, as would UW.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought the conference records are the only indicator.

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by PondJunky on Oct 18, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, there are further tiebreaker scenarios. I’m not sure what order they are in, but in this case, with each of the top three teams having one loss, to each other, all within the same division, my guess is that it would ultimately come down to BCS rankings. And you gotta figure that Stanford, with only the one loss, would probably have the highest BCS ranking. Now if Stanford then went on to lose to Notre Dame, all bets are off.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think we’ve hashed it out below.

The bottom line is that with a three-way tie (UW beats Stanford, Stanford beats us, we beat UW), Stanford would probably get the nod based on having a higher BCS ranking at the end of the season (assuming each team wins out beyond those games).

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Wikipedia so it must be true

Three or more-team procedure
 
In the event that three teams are tied, the following criteria shall be used as tiebreakers to determine who will represent the division in the championship game:
 1.Collective head-to-head record among all tied teams
 2.Record of the tied teams within the division
 3.BCS component

by INducktrination on Oct 18, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

So would UW's ranking pass Stanford?

I doubt it, which would mean a loss to a team with a higher ranking(Stanford) would be more justifiable. Giving us the higher BCS ranking in the long run. then again, the BCS never follows the rules of reason

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by PondJunky on Oct 18, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s not out of this world in possibilities that UW passes Stanford’s ranking while sharing the same conference record.

There’s an unfortunate wild card at play there, and that’s Stanford’s last non-conference game. If UW beats Stanford… well… there have been crazier things that have happened.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

True. but, UW did lose to Nebraska.

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by PondJunky on Oct 18, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right, and we lost to LSU. Stanford hasn’t lost to anyone. Assuming the above scenario, plus Stanford beats Notre Dame, it’s almost certain that Stanford would have the higher BCS rating. Oregon would probably be #2 and UW would probably be #3.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

An early loss is better than a late loss.

If Stanford losses to UW, they will drop from 8th to somewhere around… 16, and UW would probably get up near the same rank.

It makes Oregon’s two games against them (back-to-back weeks) very interesting though.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

exactly

I don´t even understand this conversation. Itś a no-brainer. Huskies need to lose. Then Stanford looks good. Then we beat Stanford. Then we look good. Plus fuskies lose.

So what is there to think about?

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by gamedaytribe on Oct 19, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Really interesting article

by Fentress regarding a subject that has had much discussion lately. I have really liked Fentress on the beat this year. I think he’s good and objective. Sounds like York was zinging him a little, which is totally fine and amusing. But his comments about what the assistant coach said are certainly interesting. Zinging Fentress just a little for fun would have been one thing, but seems like he was dogging him out about just doing his job.

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by daisyduck on Oct 18, 2011 11:22 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

My J-school hat is on...

Thanks for posting this article. It is interesting…and reflective of a larger shift in thinking about the role of journalists in today’s media. It is Fentress’s job to be objective and if you don’t want objectivity, you can certainly find a favorable opinion elsewhere. As for the assistant coach, let’s hear it, but don’t get on Fentress for doing his job. That’s really not what he should be focusing on.

by chicagoduck on Oct 18, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He should be focusing on the taste of various cuts of buffalo, IMO.

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by Famous Duck on Oct 18, 2011 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good enough

From Jay Allen:

LaMichael James told me he will travel to Colorado but probably won’t play. But he says he’s 100% sure he’ll play against WSU.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 18, 2011 11:38 AM PDT reply actions  

More
LMJ is no longer wearing a sling or wrap on right arm. Tells me arm feels good.

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by skywaker9 on Oct 18, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

DANCING MIDGET REJOICE

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

/minimized

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by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 18, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

/shakes head in sadness

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you making fun of LMJ’s shortness?

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

it just seemed more appropriate than the dancing giant.

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Axe, you’ve gone and upset my Wolf.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wolf can comprehend that I said a word that's not politically correct?

What is he,18 months old?

GEENUS BABY!

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Since ESPN was kind enough to rerun that replay multiple times

And having watched that Cal game 3 times, I still don’t have a clue how his arm can ever be normal again. The Human body is definitely a mystery.

by skyo12 on Oct 18, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

LMJ is not human

He is some sort of new Nike prototype cyborg-human. :-)

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by skywaker9 on Oct 18, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

So I think this show could have been allot better.

I just watched the first season, which was only six episodes, and I feel like they could have made more. There was so much more potential for story lines. They could have stretched out his journey to Atlanta, among other story lines.

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by PondJunky on Oct 18, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it IS still going. Season 2 just started on Sunday, so there’s still the potential to journey to a bunch of different places. And I think they only made six in the first season because of budget/time concerns. This season has twelve or thirteen episodes, I believe.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

They didn't know if the show would be successful

So they only ordered 6 episodes. It’s premeire had 3x the viewers than Mad Men which is only slowly gaining viewership.

by INducktrination on Oct 18, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ooooh, it's available streaming...

I might have to give it a watch.

Personally, I felt the whole zombie thing was a little played out.

But i like crossbows.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 18, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am not a zombie enthusiast by any means

but I think this show is awesome.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am going to Netflix it

very soon based on the conversations I’ve seen here. I love zombie movies.

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by daisyduck on Oct 18, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

And memes.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven’t really gotten into the zombie genre. I love Shaun of the Dead (although that’s more of a spoof than anything else) and I enjoyed Resident Evil (does that count as a zombie movie?). Otherwise, I haven’t really seen any. I got bored halfway through Night of the Living Dead.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did see I Am Legend, and thought it was alright. I thought of that more as a virus movie than a zombie movie.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I haven't read the book. I thought the movie was good, but I certainly understood why it was not a commercial success.

Supposedly, it was read by most ofthe modern horror masters (Stephen King, Anne Rice, etc.) and is credited as the source of the modern vampire myth. This, of course, was before they became sparkly.

by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 18, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vampires have always been sparkly, we’ve only just discovered this though.

by sacduxnutz on Oct 18, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Luckily we are seeing the next stage of zombie evolution

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I recommend the book

I had my doubts about the movie when I saw an interview with Will Smith plugging the movie and they asked him “So, why should we watch this movie?” and he responds (OMG SPOILER ALERT), “They blow up the Brooklyn Bridge!!!?!?!?!”

Its a cliche but the movie was awful compared to what the book was. The whole idea of what the Legend is was lost. But I am Legend isn’t the first remake of the book and you may have seen it before.

by INducktrination on Oct 18, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy hell…

You’re right.

I feel conflicted!

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s still wonderful!

by INducktrination on Oct 18, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

BUT IT’S A ROMANTIC COMEDY!

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

So is Top Gun only with much, much less comedy

by INducktrination on Oct 18, 2011 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Top Gun is a romantic zombie movie?

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 9:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just a romance movie.

Haven’t you seen the volleyball scene? Totally romantic.

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by Matt Daddy on Oct 18, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is one of my

Top 10 all time favorites. It might even be pushing the Top 5. Maybe it is the romance factor! I always thought it was because it was a zombie comedy and really, what could possibly be better than that?

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by daisyduck on Oct 19, 2011 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

What zombie comedy movie are we talking about again? Top Gun?

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by JShufelt on Oct 19, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

One was sitting near me...

Got in a fight with another duck fun, and then left with his girlfriend following behind. About 15 minutes later he mysteriously returned sans girlfriend. 10 minutes after that CMS was trying to escort him out and he kept taking zigzagging through the aisles and down different staircases.

by Pelhament on Oct 18, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody got the trivia answer from last night, so I'll post it again.

Who said this, when, and what made it ironic?

"I think the last staff demanded flawless character from those they recruited. We’ve got good kids, but they’re independent and they might cause you a few problems."

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

It's not on google, it's not on your website.

Are you just making stuff up now, Pancake Man?

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not this time.

Happy to provide the citation, if anyone ever guesses correctly.

If all you had to do was Google it, it wouldn’t be any fun, right?

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, it is

in the sense of “A literary technique, originally used in Greek tragedy, by which the full significance of a character’s words or actions are clear to the audience or reader although unknown to the character”.

Don’t Alanis Morrissette me, dammit.

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Close enough.

It was Rich Brooks, preseason 1978, talking about his freshman class, several of whom would go on to feats of notoriety, alleged and (once) convicted.

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t answer the reason why it was Ironic, but I totally guessed the “who” correctly this morning at 7:02am.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rec for finding a way to work "The Who" into a thread.

Flagged for not answering the WHOLE question.

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was before I had coffee.

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought everyone heard that.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

z

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by PondJunky on Oct 18, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

WAKE UP!

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Trufaunt out for the Seachickens, WTIII to start.

Or so the radio folks have said.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 18, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't know if it has been mentioned.

LMJ said whether he plays is dependent on his personnel comfort level, not the doctors or the coaches.

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by PondJunky on Oct 18, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

New post on Duck Downs: Oregon vs Colorado, 1978

The latest in the Oregon vs Colorado: A Prehistoric Series Series. (I’d hoped to get all the games done by this weekend, but that ain’t happening, sorry)

In which we learn that there’s more to recruiting than signing great athletes…

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

nirvana of a caption contest, with a twist!

Here’s a sign from over the weekend, courtesy of Occupy Wall Street’s “”http://occupyherbstreit.tumblr.com/page/2" target="new">Occupy Herbstreit Guy" (the whole tumblr is really quite funny).

Here’s the caption that goes with it:

Oregon Ducks tribute sign: Scott Van Pelt, Honey Badger, Subprime, Protesters

Your task is to decide: WTF is the play call that goes with this sign?

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 3:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Fake punt ala Civil War last year

by sacduxnutz on Oct 18, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because Chip Kelly

just doesn’t give a fuck about field position. He just eats snakes all day.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 18, 2011 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it might be a reverse pass-back with Tuinei

/stillwaitingafter2years

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey look!

Dennis Dixon joins the ranks of Twitter

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by axemen23 on Oct 18, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

What's YOUR deal?

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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you give us a little respect?

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 18, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does nobody remember

that Stanford shut out the fuckies 41-0 last year? Sure uw might be better than last year, but not 41 points better

by wlw1588 on Oct 18, 2011 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

To demonstrate the insanity of your post, I give you: 1973, Oregon 58, Washington 0.

I will let you look up the score of the 1974 UW game.

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey, neato!

I just projectile vomited!

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by ProbablyMonty on Oct 18, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oregon didn't have Andrew Luck

but seriously. You just ruined my appetite

by wlw1588 on Oct 18, 2011 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're right.

He hadn’t been born yet.

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

My verdict: I still like the original best.

It’s pretty good though.

Now with mustache guarantee!

by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 18, 2011 6:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Where did you find it?

I WANT SOME. But my friendly Roth’s Sunnyside market has not.

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by benzduck on Oct 18, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

At 11 ounces per bottle

that aught to put 13 bottles in each case.

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by flyduckfly on Oct 19, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only place in the LA area they sell it is City of Industry, which is quite aways out of my way. Worth it?

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nothing is worth going to City of Industry.

Nothing!

I feel bad for Colorado. They are the new WSU.

by CaDuck on Oct 18, 2011 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

An epic, uncommon beer might be worth it. Might. That’s why I’m asking the question.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 18, 2011 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

If it’s similar to session or black session, it’s not “epic”. It’s just a solid, easy to drink session beer.

Probably not worth the trip.

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by JShufelt on Oct 19, 2011 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with this assessment

It’s a bit higher-alcohol (6.2) than most session beers, so less sessionable in that sense (I am full after two). All told, it’s a solid Oktoberfest-type lager, but nothing spectacular.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 19, 2011 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed … but it’s still in my fridge right now

by echo31 on Oct 19, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was severely disappointed when I went through the City of Industry. I expected it to look more like… Carson/Arlington area or something.

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by JShufelt on Oct 19, 2011 6:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Even the people who live in the City of Industry are disappointed when they drive through it. It’s a dismal place.

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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 19, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

All 219 of them.

Seriously. The 2010 census results say that there are only 219 people in that awesome and desirable place.

I feel bad for Colorado. They are the new WSU.

by CaDuck on Oct 19, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is either a tiny glass next to the bottle…

OR THAT IS A HUGE BOTTLE!

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Oct 19, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

This Arkansas St-Florida International game is pretty hot

Although the Red Wolves just scored a TD, it seems unlikely we have much to worry about next year….

by eloomis20 on Oct 18, 2011 7:13 PM PDT reply actions  

FEAR ARKY STATE!

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by David Piper on Oct 18, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

And then,

After giving the best speech ever, Pflugrad was a non-factor in the game.

2 catches for 9 yards. Ouch.

Also, interesting note, UO’s 7 straight wins over ASU is now tied with their 7 straight wins over UW for longest active conference win streak. Hopefully, in a little over 3 weeks, it won’t be the longest.

by omb on Oct 18, 2011 10:53 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I think he said "active"

so it goes back to the last one.

The conference record is USC’s 26 straight over OAC, from 1968 to 1999. So we won’t break this record with UW until 2030.

Our longest winless string is against USC, 12 straight (1972 – 1986). There was a tie in there (1980).

Our longest losing string is against ASU, 9 straight from 1966 to 1988, although the first two of those were when ASU was a WAC team.

For each pac-10 team:
Oregon losing strings vs..

  • USC – 12 winless (1972 – 1986); 7 losses (72 – 78)
  • UCLA – 7 losses (49-56)
  • Stan – 5 (67-71, 73-77)
  • Cal – 8 (74-82)
  • OAC – 8 (64-71)
  • UW – 6 (74-79, 81-86)
  • WSU – 4 (71-74)
  • ASU – 9 (66-88, first two were when ASU was in the WAC)
  • Ariz — 4 (84-88)

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by benzduck on Oct 20, 2011 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

From the Flugrad's speech post.

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Oct 19, 2011 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't know how to get the image from my desktop to the reply box..........?

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Oct 19, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanx.

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