The Countdown: Is a Return Trip to the Natty Still Possible for Oregon?
by David Piper on Oct 21, 2011 10:02 AM PDT
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Tako said it during Missouri State week, but it bears repeating: the Countdown concept is based on the idea that there are five factors that can swing a game for or against the Ducks. For this to work, there has to be a plausible path for an Oregon loss. Even though we've won almost all of our conference games under Chip Kelly, there were still conceivable ways in which Oregon could lose those games. For Colorado, I don't see it. I could probably envision a scenario where Paul Richardson and Rodney Stewart go bonkers and the defense plays out of their minds, but those playmakers aren't playing, and large parts of the CU defense are hurt. Outside of an outbreak of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, Oregon isn't losing.
That said, I'm going to look at a bit of a different topic. Its a longshot, but 2001 and 2007 were similar years that were filled with enough upsets to just make you think its possible: Top five plausible results for Saturday that will help Oregon get back in the national championship race.*
*For example, I don't consider the idea of Tennessee going into Tuscaloosa and beating Alabama to be plausible. I'd be being a ridiculous homer to suggest something like that.
1. Oklahoma State loses to Missouri -- I know, Missouri sits at 3-3 and the record look very middling. However, the three losses are all on the road, and close losses to Arizona State, Oklahoma, and Kansas State. They have won all of their home games, and two of them by very large margins. Missouri is a more talented team than their record would indicate, and its conceivable that their best combined with an off game by the Cowboys could knock Okie State from the ranks of the undefeated.
2. Clemson performs a Clemsoning againt North Carolina -- Clemson has been the biggest surprise of the season, and I think we're all shocked that the haven't managed to blow a game they should win yet. This could be that week. UNC is 5-2, though without any real quality wins. Its exactly the kind of game that would be so very Clemson to lose.
3. Suspensions prove big as Auburn takes down LSU -- I know, its not likely that Auburn can go into Baton Rouge and beat LSU. However, Tyrann Mathieu and Spencer Ware are both out of the game for drug suspensions, and its not out of the realm of possibility that the Plainsmen could pull the upset. That would make LSU a two loss team and likely behind us in the rankings should they lose to Alabama later in the season.
4. Wisconsin runs into an ambush in East Lansing -- Wisconsin's looked mighty impressive thus far but, other than Nebraska, its been cupcake city, and the Badgers haven't even left Madison yet this season. Michigan State is only giving up ten points per game, and a Sparty buzzsaw could send Wisconsin dropping from the ranks of the undefeated.
5. Stanford holds serve against Washington -- We'll need a late season marquee win to stay at the top of the one loss pack, and a road win against Andrew Luck and undefeated Stanford would provide that. Plus, if Washington wins, everybody else loses. Its a fact.
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*For example, I don’t consider the idea of Tennessee going into Tuscaloosa and beating Alabama to be plausible. I’d be being a ridiculous homer to suggest something like that.
While I’m 99.5% sure you’re right it’d be funny to see the Vols win now & of course beneficial to us.
This is stating the obvious but a couple of these teams will lose at some point lets just hope enough will lose so we can get a shot at the Natty or be a lock for a at large bid if we lose to Stanford
If Tennessee beats Alabama
TQA8 will pee his pants. It’s a fact.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Well, then:
GOOD OLE ROCKY TOP!
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 21, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
They damn near got LSU last year.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
No.
2/3rds of the B©S formula are human voters. We all see how little they respected Oregon after their season opening loss to LSU. Unless the “big boys” lose multiple games, Oregon won’t get the human vote.
My parents believed in me.
exactly- Duck fans with a chip on their shoulder
2001 was bs- but that was a long time ago. In 2007 1-loss Ducks were ranked #2 and poised to play for natty. Last year they were ranked by the humans ahead of even Auburn all year- until the last week the computers moved them to #2- but still ahead of fellow unbeated TCU. Right now highest ranked 1-loss team in human polls, and #2- in computers. Arkansas will lose more games- so that will correct itself. Truthfully LSU deserves to be ranked ahead of Oregon if they lose to Bama- and Bama might as well if they play LSU really tough in a loss. Outside of that- no one loss team is going to end up ahead of Oregon if they win out.
It's not unfair....
at this point the Ducks are fairly ranked.
What I tried to say is that if the “big boys” of CFB also lose one, or even two games, they will probably get the benefit of the doubt from voters (who make up 2/3rds of the BCS formula) based on how far they dropped the Ducks after the LSU game.
My parents believed in me.
If they lose two...
no way. We get a marquee win against Stanford and we are definitely in the race. What would be better is that all the other conference no loss teams lose (OU, Okie State, Clemson, and Wisconsin followed by MSU. I honestly think the only way we are in the race is if we play and SEC team.
"I love Oregon's obsolete recruiting report on an unhealthy level. Just more proof how balla Chip Kelly really is." Dr. Saturday
I think this is dead on....
We need UO, Ok St, Clemson and Wisconsin to all lose or we don’t go……
Either Bama or LSU is likely to only have one loss at the end of the year……
What scares me is that we could see an SEC vs SEC title game this year…….
/vomitsinmouth
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 21, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
You've lost me
We need UO…toalllose
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Doh
errr, I obviously meant OU…..my bad…..It will not happen again. I promise.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 21, 2011 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure you can't have two teams from the same conf. in the NCG.
If I wanted any lip from you, I'd unzip your pants.
Do you know that for sure?
I would really like to hope not….But there is a way I could see that happening this year…..say Bama and LSU both win out with LSU’s only loss being to BAMA. Then let’s say Ok, Ok St, Clemson, fBSU, and Wisconsin all lose a game. Who goes to the title game?
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 21, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I believe you can
There was much talk about having a repeat of the Ohio St. – Michigan game from 2006 after they met in the final regular season game and Ohio St. won by 3. Both teams were undefeated at the time and ranked #1 and 2. The game was so tight, a lot of people felt that Michigan was still #2 despite the loss.
by INducktrination on Oct 21, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
You may be right.
I thought I read somewhere that the teams can’t be from the same conference, but I can’t seem to find where I saw it…
If I wanted any lip from you, I'd unzip your pants.
Must win your conference
I remember reading somewhere that you much win your conference to be eligible to play in the Natty. I think they put that rule in after the Huskers went to the Natty but didn’t even win the Big12. Not sure if this is true but it is what I have seen.
"Autzen's 59,000 strong make the Big House collectively sound like a pathetic whimper. It’s louder than any place I’ve ever been, and that includes The Swamp at Florida, The Shoe in Columbus, and Death Valley at Louisiana State. Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." -Michigan Daily columnist
by LoneStarDuck on Oct 22, 2011 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions
It's better than
the ’ship.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 21, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
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by soddruntlestuntle on Oct 21, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think we will be ranked any lower than #4 if we win out.
And I don’t see anymore than 2 teams and fBSU going undefeated this year.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 21, 2011 11:07 AM PDT reply actions
Still need a lot of help
LSU and Bama most likely would both stay ahead of Oregon if they win out except for the head to head game. Okie vs Okie State winner. Wisconsin, fBSU, Clemson. Of those last 4- probably 1 or 2 will drop a game. Okay- still puts us #5 or #6 barring some big upsets.
If its not in the cards- a #3 ranked undefeated Wisconsin team would make for an awfully fun Rose Bowl.
I agree.
LSU would stay ahead of us for sure if they lost to Bama. Would the same be true for BAMA? Not sure.
We really need LSU to lose to Auburn this week and we could also use for Mich St to pull one out (though I really don’t see this happening).
fBSU is not likely to lose, but if we win out with Stanford winning out except for our game against them and Ariz St plays well the rest of the year, so that a victory over them in the Pac-12 title game looks good, I could see the computers having us ahead of fBSU (we could use for Georgia to start sucking too, for this to happen).
It’s going to be interesting to see how things pan out.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 21, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you imagine the firestorm in Boise if a 1 loss Oregon team is ahead of them in the final BCS rankings?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
And everywhere outside of Boise
No one would care. Our loss to LSU is better than any of their victories. Their SOS should be an automatic ban from the BCSNCG. It’d be a fun discussion though.
by INducktrination on Oct 21, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
You're going to hate me for this
5. Stanford holds serve against Washington — We’ll need a late season marquee win to stay at the top of the one loss pack, and a road win against Andrew Luck and undefeated Stanford would provide that. Plus, if Washington wins, everybody else loses. Its a fact.
I want washington to win this game, because I think that A) We might need that 1-game cushion on Furd down the road, B) I’d prefer it be us to knock the fuskies off of their the-don-james-era-is-back high horse, and C) The computers will like wins against 2 top 15 teams (I’m looking at the end of the season) than one top 5 team.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Ugh. No.
A) Why would we need a one-game cushion against Furd? Who else is Furd going to lose to if they beat us? And if we beat Furd, what other two teams would we lose to? I just don’t see a scenario where that’s likely.
B) Who cares who knocks em off their horse? I’m just as happy to trample their prone, broken body into the dirt.
C) This seems like it would violate some sort of transitive math property, but I don’t know how the computer works.
D) FUCK THE HUSKIES
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by Gorbachav5 on Oct 21, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
What if we beat washington and beat stanford
and stanford loses to washington and us
and washington loses to us and beats stanford
we have a great cushion on those teams for the USC visit/OAC when anything can happen.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
If we beat Uw and Stanford
We will play in the championship game. OAC isn’t beating us this year. They are a really bad team and Bryan Bennett could beat them. If USC beats us, which is at home where we play our best, we still have the head-to-head tiebreaker over both Uw and Furd depending on whomever beats the other.
by INducktrination on Oct 21, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Surrrrrre
That’s the reason.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 21, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Didn’t you root for UW last year in some basketball games?
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
I might have broken a Wheaton Wave to express my preference for uw in my bracket, yes.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Didn’t you agree with me when I said breaking a wheaton wave should be a bannable offense?
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
That was the joke.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
You should be banned from life.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
I was banned for like 10 days for doing it in the first place.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Didn't you almost go to fUCLA?
that was a great almost win your almost school had almost last night.
You can’t spell anatidaephobia without DAT.
I'd still love to transfer down there if the opportunity is earned/presents itself.
Seriously.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Sounds like a bad decision
You should get your degree from OU…….jk
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 21, 2011 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
if we beat Stanford
we have a de-facto two game cushion. We’d have to lose twice. Isn’t happening.
Also, flagged for wanting lossington to win.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Oct 21, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate the fact that young people have no perspective on the appropriate levels of husky hate.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
I remember 2003 just fine, thanks.
I’m not above betting on them to cover, or looking at our best interests.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
huskies winning is NEVER in our best interests. Period.
That’s the appropriate level of hate.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
by Matt Daddy on Oct 21, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I think Matt Daddy sums it up appropriately
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
He DOES! Goin' green...
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
This perfectly sums up
why you are grasshopper.
Huskies and winning should never EVER be used in the same sentence by any true Duck fan.
ATQ's #1 fan of ATQ Guys
huskies hate winning?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
They don't know how...0-12 kicks in a substantial 'forgetter' in the hypothalmus area of the brain. Look it up.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
You do realize that if we beat Stanford, we have a one-game cushion?
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Oct 21, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Also, Washington beating Stanford would be the worst thing that could happen, as that gives the best chance for a 3-way tie for the north title, which would be really crappy.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
we should then
just have ASU play all of those teams—one right after another—for the Conference Championship. NORTH DIVISION DOMINAAAAAANCE
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Oct 21, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I want to see
enough weakness on the D side of the ball from Stanford to feel comfortable about our game with them, then I want them to shred the fuskie’s pathetic D and put up [(our score) – 1] points against them.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Oct 21, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I get that the Husky D sucks...
But Oregon’s D is lower ranked vs the run and is surrendering more yards per game. When next we meet, I’d consider betting the over
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
Oregon’s D gives up fewer yards per play, and holds opponents to a 35% third-down conversion rate (as opposed to the huskies at an atrocious 48%). I’d bet the over because the Ducks are putting up at least 50.
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For more stat fun, every single advanced metric really likes the Ducks defense, and hates uw
FEI: 12th vs. 49th
F/: 16th vs. 91st
S&P: 17th vs. 86th
Oregon defense has had some issues, sure, but Washington is just horrible. There is no comparison between the two defenses. And seeing a husky try and use total defense to compare the two makes me smile.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
but JT, JT!!
You forgot TOP!!
/statsthatdon’tmatter
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Oct 22, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Hrm?
That makes no sense. If we need “a cushion” that means you foresee 2 losses AFTER the Tree assuming a win, because we would hold the tiebreaker if we beat them. A loss to ’furd means we finish outside of the top 10 regardless, having lost to the only top-10 teams we played.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 21, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I have a dream of Oregon vs. BSU...
Wisconsin beats an SEC team in the NCG. I just think we are a year out from being ready to play Bama or LSU. Beating BSU in the rose bowl would feel great on so many levels.
/fBSU’d
"I love Oregon's obsolete recruiting report on an unhealthy level. Just more proof how balla Chip Kelly really is." Dr. Saturday
The Rose Bowl won't take Boise
They fufilled their non-AQ team clause last year with TCU. The’ll take the Pac-10 champ and the Big 10 champ, and if one of those two go to another BCS bowl, they would take the next team in line.
In my scenario...
wisconsin is in the NCG. If they have an at-large and Oregon is the Pac-12 champs, who do they take as an at-large. Just because the don’t have to take the non-AQ doesn’t mean they don’t if the best match is Oregon vs. BSU.
"I love Oregon's obsolete recruiting report on an unhealthy level. Just more proof how balla Chip Kelly really is." Dr. Saturday
They take Illinois
or Michigan or Michigan St or Nebraska. Rose bowl will go Pac-12 vs. Big 10 every chance they get.
by INducktrination on Oct 21, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
If Clemson keeps playing like they're playing, Ducks/Tigers sound like a fun game to me.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
I don't have a big investment in a pissin' contest here but, with what they got and all the press they been getting,
it would be alright with me if we ‘fucked ’em’ on the field.
Probably not likely to happen but an intriguing game I’d say. MSU or Wis for the Rose Bowl is OK too. But the matchups with Clemson look exciting (see the opposing true frosh and of course QB’s and RB’s.)
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
2nd Place big -10 team...
likely MSU. I like that matchup.
"I love Oregon's obsolete recruiting report on an unhealthy level. Just more proof how balla Chip Kelly really is." Dr. Saturday
Crazier things have happened...
But I agree that it would be stretch for them to pick Boise as their At-Large Bid
So,
you think they take Nebraska or Michigan State?
"I love Oregon's obsolete recruiting report on an unhealthy level. Just more proof how balla Chip Kelly really is." Dr. Saturday
I was thinking about this very thing
I think a 58-21 BSU whooping in the Rose Bowl would be the perfect end to yet another undefeated-in-Pac-12 season.
I
but wouldn’t they just say “1917 and BSU ha ha”
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If they did, fuck them.
In fact, fuck them anyway. They’re Huskies.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 21, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Correction:
In fact, fuck them anyway. They’reHuskies.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
fuskies is the word you were looking for
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
I think if we hadn't spotted LSU 20 points
and generally played sloppy, especially in the first quarter, that we could have won the LSU game.
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by Old Ducker on Oct 21, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, it’s definitely a game we could have won. That game should have gone down to the last few possessions. It’s a shame we gave it away so early.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I am totally pissed that
Every writer claims LSU dominated the Ducks. That is total BS. The Ducks gave LSU a short field time and time again. I don’t think LSU had more than one scoring drive of greater than 50 yards. If the Duckies play clean they win and this entire season is transformed.
I like the way things are evolving though. Now it’s time for a massacre in Boulder.
by doomsdaymachine on Oct 22, 2011 6:09 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Reply fail...
That was meant as a reply to this:
So,
you think they take Nebraska or Michigan State?
Oh, I understood you perfectly.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 21, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
To me, there’s a 1% chance of Oregon going back to the NCG. Whoever wins the SEC even if its a 1 loss team, hell even if its a 2 loss team, would get in above us. That means only 1 other team has to remain undefeated. Oklahoma, Ok St, Wisconsin, or Clemson will end up undefeated at the end of the year.
Also, don’t forget the human vote. LSU has a strong chance of finishing number one. Even if chaos occurred, human voters are not going to want an LSU vs. Oregon rematch.
Kansas State can help. Don't leave them out of the mix. The Oklahoma schools both have to play KSU and KSU hasn't lost many games this year...
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
I think the biggest thing standing in our way (other than us winning out)..
Is Wisonsin…..I just don’t see them losing a game this year when you look at their schedule.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 21, 2011 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Disagree.
If Ducks beat Furd and smoke the rest no two loss team will be ranked ahead of them.
by doomsdaymachine on Oct 22, 2011 6:11 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This is a guarantee
No way in hell a two loss team is ahead of us. Not even if it is LSU.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 22, 2011 7:07 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Ducks are in the air.
Rocky Mountain Hiiiigghh, in Col-o-rad-doh…….
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
This may be just me, but I feel it's too homerish a desire to think about the NATTY this year.
Not after losing to LSU this year the way we did. Not after the other previous losses. What have we done, after all?
I don’t mind losing games. It happens. And yes, we have come a long way. But the last 2+ years of post-season futility and big-game collapses have taken their toll on me, starting with the Rose Bowl loss to Ohio State, the Auburn Natty loss and the LSU beatdown.
Statistically speaking, we should have one at least one of those three games if it were just a random fluky thing. Because on any given day, an inferior team can win against superior opposition if they play their hearts out and everything goes their way.
I don’t feel we’ve made it to the elite tier of football teams. Not until we pay our dues. Prove our worth. Win some post-season games against elite teams, sttarting with the Rose Bowl. Let’s win a Rose Bowl or a Fiesta Bowl (like we did against Colorado with Joey, the year when ol’ Eric-shouldnta-won-the-Heisman-Crouch and Nebraska got to play in the Natty rather than us, back in 2002).
Let’s win the Rose Bowl. Let’s KICK SOME SERIOUS POST-SEASON BOWL-GAME ASS, PEOPLE!!!
LET"S GET SOME SERIOUS ROADKILL UNDER OUR BELT, THE KIND THAT COMES WITH A PARADE!!
And then maybe, just maybe, the conversation about us in the NATTY won’t sound so presumptious and inflated.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Rose Bowl
I agee with you, it would be nice to win big at the next bowl game. Rose Bowl is the PAC12 tradition. Nothing wrong with a Rose Bowl win to add to the display. Lets hope we play Wisconsin.
Go Ducks!
Go Ducks 2011-2012
You might be right and, you better be careful what you hope for.
We’ll know some more after tomorrow. But I started my Duck fan-ism in 1970 and I’ve done MY share of suffering; I’ve paid my dues. We’ve taken all the shit that was thrown at us this year with style and grace, with a young team that has progressed each week. I’ve got nothin’ against the Rose Bowl but I am irked at the opinion that we are not an elite program. IMO, that’s bullshit.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
The Rose Bowl is the reasonable target
Its where we are in control of our destiny to reach. But since college football loves itself some polls, and the BCS system is what we have, discussion and subjectivity are apart of the week-to-week season. I’m a sucker for anarchy in college football, I like to look at the alternative scenarios. I don’t think we deserve to play in the Natty this year, but if every other team decides to stumble, then why not us?
Here’s a good time to step back and contemplate something: We’re a longshot, but not out of the question of appearing in a second straight BCSNCG. We control our destiny for a 3rd straight BCS game. These past couple years have sure been one hell of a ride, haven’t they? SO LETS GO KICK SOME BUFF AND COUG AND whelp AND CAVEMAN AND CONDOM AND FCS TEAM’S ASSES! AND LETS WIN A BIG ONE FOR THE CHIPPER!!
GO DUCKS!!!
by INducktrination on Oct 21, 2011 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
This post is flagged
For capitalizing washington. Come on folks, after all these years of husky beatdowns, we’ve gone soft. WE’VE GOTTA KEEP OUR COMPOSURE.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
I don't know if this has anything to do with the Fuskies..
But, I thought maybe Hood River Duck might like this:
Sex with Ducks by Garfunkel and Oates
Win the Day and GO DUCKS!!!
by David the Duck on Oct 22, 2011 12:35 AM PDT reply actions
because Ducks are oh so sexy
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Oct 22, 2011 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll be in my...
wait, nevermind
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
This one is actually much better...
Huck the Fuskies!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=EXPcBI4CJc8
Win the Day and GO DUCKS!!!
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
You know I love/hate you guys and don’t come here to troll, but NO. I don’t see how you guys can even be seriously discussing this right now.
Had the Ducks won against LSU, or even put up a performance seen as respectable by most around the country (i.e. not turning the ball over every five minutes, and LMJ not getting shut down) then a NC game appearance would be in the picture. However, the simple and sad truth is that Oregon has a big perception problem, and by extension, so does the Pac. (And I mean sad even as a Beav in all seriousness – I wanted you guys to beat Auburn last year.) After losing to Boise State in that LGB debacle, getting beaten by Ohio State in Terrelle Pryor’s breakout game, being held to 19 and coming up short against Auburn, and now having recorded an embarrassing loss to LSU, the national perception is that Oregon cannot beat the “big boys”. Ducks can mop up the Pac, but once they step into the national spotlight for a big game against a top Big 10 or SEC team, they don’t have the athletes (mostly size) to compete.
That’s why the voters will not let Oregon into the NC game this year, barring some astronomically unlikely end-of-season chaos. The LSU game was exceptionally high-stakes because had Oregon won, they’d be on the inside track to another NC game appearance. But… losing to LSU means that the Ducks’ fortunes are tied to LSU. If LSU wins out, they go to the natty, and Oregon’s loss doesn’t look so bad. However, you can’t really have LSU v. Oregon again in the natty. On the other hand, if LSU doesn’t make it to the natty, Oregon’s loss looks worse, and it hurts you guys further in addition to a relatively weak Pac this year.
I don’t mean to pile on (although it probably sounds like I am) but this discussion is just crazy to me.
And yes, my team DOES suck this year.
Which won't matter a lick
if we win a Rose Bowl over Wisconsin. We’re mainly just tossing it around as a silly distraction from tomorrow’s game. Nobody on this blog (hopefully) thinks it’s plausible for Wisconsin, Oklahoma, fBSU, LSU, AND Alabama to not only lose, but drop below the 1-loss Ducks during a weak Pac year.
Oregon does have a serious PR problem, mostly because of the games you mentioned. The realistic goal this year is to beat Stanford, win the newly-instated Pac-12, and win us our first Rose Bowl in 94 years
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Oct 22, 2011 4:18 AM PDT up reply actions
And looking back on this post...
Wisconsin and Oklahoma just lost, and will probably drop below the 1-loss Ducks. fBSU will never play for the title, and LSU/Alabama will knock each other off (hopefully with an LSU win)
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Oct 22, 2011 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you are just saying what all of us have already been saying.
I don’t think there are really any people around here that THINK we are going to get back to the Natty this year. That isn’t what we are talking about. In fact, if you notice the title of the post, you will notice that it is directly based in the fact that a lot of fluky things are going to have to happen and asks the question: if those things happen, is there a chance we get back to the Natty (whether or not we deserve it is another issue; see a two-loss LSU team being the National Champ in 2007; No 2 loss team should ever be a national champion)?
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 22, 2011 5:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I was saying booooooo-ners.
Now with mustache guarantee!
by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 22, 2011 5:30 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Nicely played Sir
What’s the altitude gonna do to my booooner Doc?
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 22, 2011 7:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Our best chance . . .
I have thought all along that our best chance to get back to the Natty is for LSU to go undefeated and for there to be a crapload of one loss teams. This would give us the best loss out of all the one loss times and with a win at Stanford (who would need to be a 1-loss team also) we would have one of the best wins too.
I don’t really believe this is possible but I’m the type of guy that sits down Saturday morning and looks at everybody ranked ahead of Oregon and then watches those games rooting for upsets.
"Autzen's 59,000 strong make the Big House collectively sound like a pathetic whimper. It’s louder than any place I’ve ever been, and that includes The Swamp at Florida, The Shoe in Columbus, and Death Valley at Louisiana State. Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." -Michigan Daily columnist
So 1, 2 and 3 didn't happen
But 4 and 5 did. And despite 1 not happening – Oklahoma lost to Texas Tech.
Not bad. Not bad. I’m saying there’s a chance.
by INducktrination on Oct 22, 2011 10:37 PM PDT reply actions
I like how Oklahoma losing to Texas Tech
wasn’t even on the table for discussion for this article. Complete surprise, especially given that the Sooners were at home (39 straight wins), and Texas Tech had a bad habit of collapsing in the second half.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Oct 22, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
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