Quack Fix: Getting ready for Washington State
by David Piper on Oct 24, 2011 7:32 AM PDT
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Print- We'll start the fix with volleyball, as Oregon swept the Washington schools at home over the weekend, including a straight set win over the #7 Huskies. The wins stop a four match losing streak, and put the team at 7-5 in the Pac-12.
- Women's soccer also had a fairly successful weekend, earning a draw with Washington, then beating #18 Washington State for their first win over a ranked foe in two seasons.
- The new BCS standings came out last night, and Oregon ranks #7, the top one-loss team. While there are plausible scenarios for a return to the BCSNCG, I'm just worried about beating Stanford and winning a Rose Bowl.
- Aaron Fentress notes that Bryan Bennett's first start against Colorado was "good."
- Chip Kellys says no disciplinary action is planned for Cliff Harris' unsportsmanlike conduct penalty to start the game.
- Today starts Washington State weeks, and WSU AD Bill Moos says he wants him home game against either Oregon State or Oregon to be in Seattle every year. This is about connecting with westside alums, but also about filling a bigger venue. What's going to happen is that the place will fill with Oregon fans next season, something our friends at CougCenter are already worried about. If they want to negate their home field advantage, so be it.
- Speaking of Wazzu, QB Jeff Tuel reinjured his collarbone against Oregon State and is questionable for the Oregon game.
- It'll be another big recruiting weekend, with several recruits coming for the Washington State game.
Stay tuned for some videos after the jump. GO DUCKS!
Michael Clay, Josh Kaddu, and Jackson Rice on the Colorado game:
DeAnthony Thomas on his role:
More DeAnthony:
Nick Aliotti:
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 24, 2011 8:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Well… it depends on how uppity your place of employment is.
My place isn’t that strict though. The emails and pictures I’ve seen here… it’s disturbing.
But yet, they block Sports Illustrated’s website because of their once a year magazine.
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Mine's strict
Lots of filters in place that filter for porn, gambling sites, etc. They also block social media like Facebook because you know, we’re supposed to be working and not socializing.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 24, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Although, I’ve actually got things pretty good because my computer screen faces away from my office door. Since people generally pause in an office doorway before barging in, I usually have time to nonchalantly minimize when someone walks in.
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by builds character on Oct 24, 2011 10:21 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
And then boss says “why is there nothing open on your desktop?”
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by Babablockhead on Oct 24, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
The filters here are wildly inconsistent.
They block Facebook & MySpace, which – I don’t care about. That’s fine. It’s only annoying when a friend sends me a link to a facebook picture or something. (I also know they blocked that sort of thing because Farmville was a bandwidth HOG and when 10 people in the office were just playing farmville all day, it made the internet go to a crawl)
And they try to block porn and stuff, but it’s just wildly inconsistent (Things like blocking Sports Illustrated, but not Maxim).
I have no problems with the filters they try to have. I have problems with how it’s implemented.
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Sounds like they care more about productivity than liability.
I’m not making a bold prediction, but we believe we can win every football game.----Chip Kelly
Well… they are more reactive than active.
They also do things like, they block torrentfreak.com, which is a blog/news site related to torrents. But they don’t block The Pirate Bay or mu torrent.
It’s just full of inconsistencies.
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Talk about inconsistencies,
my workplace directs us to an internet site so we can view emails they have deemed to be possible spam. Then when you get to the site, it says the certificate is expired and they recommend not continuing!
Daisy...
Did you go to the Colorado game? I sat next to a very nice woman on my flight home that made me think it might be you. She was blond. She talked about a shoe shopping spree while in Boulder, about hoping she did well in this weeks pick em contest, and she was heading on back to the Eugene area after we landed in Portland.
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Wow she sounds totally awesome!
Unfortunately It wasn’t me – I didn’t go to the game, and I also live in the Pdx area, not Eugene.
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I don’t think I’ll click on the links, thank you very much.
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I was the only one in the office at the time, and someone else came in the door.
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by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 24, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions
With Thanksgiving less than a month away,
I’d like to take a brief moment to give thanks to our Overlord and Creator, Larry Scott. For yea, he saw fit that our conference not only had Beavers, Trojans, and Cougars, but now Buffaloes. You guys all do know what they call the male corollary of a beaver shot, don’t you?
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I was just watching the Highlights from the game
and I remember thinking that Bryan just has such a nice smooth style and the way he throws the ball down field is really a nice projectile.
I think that with some more practice and experience.. this guy could be better than Darron. There were times when he made some mistakes that were simply based on inexperience.
I am feeling really good about our QB depth at this point. I also feel bad for Tra.. he is always an inch from taking off and getting the big run but he is such an instinctive runner and physical. Him and Baby DT is gonna blow shit up.
GO DUCKS!
ssshhh....
I am not impressed with Bennet’s accuracy or passing game decision making. I believe he needs a lot of work in those areas.
I do like his quick feet and his quick first step.
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I agree
11 for 20 passing doesn’t impress me against a team with converted WRS playing DB. But he did have a couple really good throws. And Murphy dropped a screen pass again. He did what was asked of him – didn’t turn the ball over and put the game away early. I don’t know how much experience he really got with that game but he has a road start and a W under his belt.
by INducktrination on Oct 24, 2011 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Without that Murphy drop he'd be at 60% completion, which is ok.
Yes it is against a terrible Buffs D, but that is fine for a freshman. He threw it down field as well, it isn’t like Chip restricted him to screens and handing the ball off. About “potential to be better than DT” but that could be said for many freshman. There are many aspects of his game that are raw and a long way to go before he can even be a serviceable replacement for DT in big games, let alone considered better. We have great coaches to ensure he lives up to his potential though
He didn’t turn over the ball, and that’s a great thing. Against better competition, he would have. He rarely went through any progressions. That’s a safety’s dream – or a corner’s pick-six on an out pattern.
It’s good to get him experience, but it does make me more worried if we lose DT to a serious injury this year.
I’m afraid of a Harper vs. Boise State type situation.
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That's a little over board
He’s no where near Harper v fBSU. Bennett is raw in the passing game, but he laid a nice one in to Paulson and Harper never would have been able to do that.
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Don’t get me wrong. I’d way rather have Bennett over Harper. What I meant is if we have to overcome a late, multiple TD deficit, I would be concerned because the better part of our offense is the running game when Bennett is calling the signals. I don’t really even think it’s close.
I feel like he would also be prone to throwing interceptions against better competition.
Right now, if I had to draw a comparison (Granted, it is a small sample size), Bennett is more like a taller, less experienced Masoli.
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Masoli led us to the RB
and I don’t see any signs of Bennett being a thief, so he is a taller, less experienced and less felonious Masoli. And again, he is a freshman. If he still can’t go through progressions in a year then we can worry.
Except if he has to play meaningful minutes this year. I’m with Shufelt. Right now he looks like all potential in the passing game. He’s got the tools, but needs to refine them. I was very impressed with his running ability. I was hoping to be more impressed with his passes, especially against Colorado.
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I’m not worried about what the future looks like in a couple of years. I’m worried about what could happen this year.
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Any team in the nation that loses their starting QB will suffer if they are offensively focused
maybe Bama or LSU don’t care bc they allow 0.8yards/rush, but pretty much any other team that cares about offense will be much worse with a back-up QB. I don’t think Bennett is any worse than most backups even today.
I still have concerns. Some teams have very viable backups at QB.
Smart backup QBs can manage and play to not lose. Even if they aren’t the most physically talented or mechanically sound players. With the given sample size, I have no reason to be pollyanna with a situation that Bennett can lead us from a deficit where we need to pass to come back.
I feel his tendency to lock on to his receiver will end up in late, game-ending turnovers if he were to be called into a shootout.
If you can’t tell, I’m a bit cynical, and I’m always a skeptic.
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I just want to remind you
that we were down to ASU in the second half, without LMJ and he led us back to victory. I’d say I’m less worried about Bennett than I was about most other back ups in Oregon history.
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I understand that, but we weren’t down to ASU in a situation where he had to lead us back through the air. He had all of 5 passing attempts and 2 completions against ASU.
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If we have to pass for more than one or two series we would lose with DT as well (NCG, LSU)
outside some situations where DT goes down with 47 seconds to go and we’re down by 6 with 80 yards to go I see us being fine. We are a running team, and we run it fast. Bennett is a much better runner than DT and this does open the option up for our RBs just as much as DT’s better passing does.
This is exactly why I don’t think we would need the passing game to come back unless we were down by 4 + TDs or we are playing LSU or Alabama. The rest of the teams on our schedule we should be able to run against, and when we can run, we can usually score very quickly.
I don’t know how to really predict the Pac-12 this year. Stanford could realistically put us in a bad situation where we need to throw (And not because of their defense).
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Let's put it this way. Here are the defenses we face the remainder of the season
Total Defense yds/play National Rank
WSU – 96
Uw – 96
Stanford – 27
USC – 53
OSU – 85
Rushing Defense yds/play National Rank
WSU – 60
Uw – 89
Stanford – 6
USC – 32
OSU – 58
That’s not really a murderer’s row of defenses. Only Stanford presents a problem, but again, I’m not sure how well they’ve been tested. Uw did hang 325 yards on them in the first half last week.
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With our offense there aren't a ton of scenarios where...
we would absolutely have to pass to win. If we are talking like down 14 points with 5 minutes left, then I don’t know that DT would pull that kind of comeback off. If we aren’t talking about that type of scenario we can still run the ball with the clock stopping on first downs.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 24, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I think DT could pull that type of comeback off.
DT almost did something even more amazing in his first game as a Duck.
I don’t think our receivers could pull off that type of comeback though.
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I have to wonder how much of Bennett's mistakes were also receiver related.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 24, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Ironically, that scenario makes Mariota DT, doesn't it?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 24, 2011 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I don’t really know. Maybe. I don’t know how well Mariota is at throwing the ball or going through progressions. But I’m not really talking in event parallels.
DT has always been good at going through progressions and making a decision without hesitation. Even in his 3/8ths of a game against BSU. I don’t know if Bennett went through progressions at all against Colorado. I’ll have to watch it again.
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he did not go through progressions
I was there. Live it is so obvious he locks on one receiver and never looks elsewhere.
Boom goes the dynamite
Yeah. I never noticed him looking at another target. That’s what I’m worried about.
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Maybe his first target was always open?
Given the sheer crappiness of CU’s defense it is possible that he didn’t really need to read a lot of progressions.
My beef with him is that he overthrew a few guys and threw to a well-covered Tunei down the sideline (he may have just been throwing it away however).
That ball to Paulson on the sideline was money.
If I had to nitpick something about that game it would be our lack of depth on the kickoffs. We’re a mile high and can’t get a ball into the endzone without a 15 yard penalty to help us?
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If his first target was always open, he probably would have had a higher completion percentage. Even against the worst competition, a defensive scheme is going to match well enough for you to look to #2. You also aren’t suppose to stare down your receiver. You have to see how the play and the defense is going to react before they do it and make your decision to throw or go to #2. You don’t wait for it to happen.
That ball to Paulson was actually behind Paulson. It was sufficient, but not perfect. It should have landed on the other side of Paulson’s head. And the screen pass TD to DAT was also a bit far, but DAT is kind of ridiculous so he made it look flawless. Both of those are getting into the area of being a bit nit-picky and pedantic though. So it’s not really worth it. I just don’t like over blowing the situation.
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I was speaking about the Paulson grab on the sideline with 1 foot down...
that was Paulson, right? Maybe it was someone else. Bennett put the ball right there where only the receiver could grab it.
Bennett looked jittery. He missed some passes, but overall I thought he was pretty good. They knew they could run at will and the passes they called were pretty basic.
I do like that they tried airing it out deep a couple times. That is something that DT doesn’t/hasn’t done enough, in my opinion.
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Ah. Yeah. That was a good throw, for sure.
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And on the next throw, looking at the replay, the one to Tuinei, I think had that been reviewed, it woulda stood up too.
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People were getting overly excited about Bennett after the pseudo come from behind win over ASU
last weekend, and I think that this is a little the opposite direction. He is a serviceable back-up, pretty good for a freshman, does somethings well and somethings poorly. He will likely become quite good, he may not. He can handle games against bad (CU) and good (ASU) teams, I wouldn’t trust him against elite teams (Stanford). This is all we know
I think he's raw
He definitely has talent (but then again, there are a lot of QB that have great arms, or can run like the wind, but suck) but that needs some refining. He needs to learn how to make reads, he needs some better touch on his passes, he needs to get more reps with the 1’s, but most of all he needs time.
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Bennett is like a young Dixon
who threw the ball all over the place, including right at defenders.
But he turned out okay.
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I think that for a freshman he has been fine in those areas
of course if they don’t improve by the time he is a Jr and ready to take the starter’s role I’ll be worried, but I think we are in good shape. He certainly has good arm strength and more than enough speed. The decision making and accuracy should come around
This is where I am
I just shook my head on a couple of those passes to Tuinei, but I really do think he’ll be vastly improved in 2013 when it’s his turn. I am sure Darron really wanted to play on Saturday, but I think it’s great that Bennet got the experience of starting a game and leading the team to a win. You just never know when that kind of experience is going to come in handy.
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Maybe we are seeing it differently
I am looking at a guy with no experience. Then again, I only looked at the highlights and I know he did some mistakes that were not the best. But I see a lot of potential in Bennet and I think he has what it takes to get better than DT.
QB Mechanics, study film, experience and all those things matter. I do think that one thing Darron has naturally is a very calm and collective approach to the game. Those are things that are hard to teach but also come with playing experience.
ssshhh....
by OregOnDucks on Oct 24, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree
With Shu. But, I believe he is a capable backup at this juncture and and glad that he is in place vs. Dustin ‘Cardholder’ Haines.
Haines did have a bad ass porn stache last Movember though…
Both gold and muck come out of the same shaft...
Agree
He throws a beautiful ball but he very much needs to work on his accuracy and progressions.
by builds character on Oct 24, 2011 10:24 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Completion %...
…would have been much better if LT could have finished out a couple of routs and made it to the pass. I thought Bennett threw a very nice ball, with a quick release.
Well, also would have been better if BB didn't throw it 10 yards over the receivers head a few times.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 24, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
Doesn’t matter if the ball is way to high.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 24, 2011 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions
It is called "Trajectory"
and you may be surprised to find out that a ball that is too high for the reciever 10 yards down the field is catchable at 15.
That still takes a LOT of assumptions for speed variables.
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Indeed.
And he’s also assuming the mistake was LT’s rather than Bennett’s. Hmm, senior vs. RSFr. One wonders. Might it be that BB was throwing the wrong pass to the wrong spot?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 24, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I will tell you, most of Bennetts passes early on were waaaay to high to be the receiver quitting on a route.
That said, I am actually high on Bennett, he needs to get the ball down, but that is the standard affliction of inexperienced QBs and should fix itself with practice and in-game reps. I thought he made a few throws that were amazing though, showed real potential.
I don't mean to impose...
DT was high on a lot of balls to start the year....
Not that BB wouldn’t have been worse, but DT missed a lot of throws in the LSU game. DT also continued overthrowing receivers for a couple weeks after that.
Consistently missing high is not the worst thing a QB getting some of his first in-game action can be doing.
You are definitely right though, he made some great throws and it will be really fun to watch this kid over the next couple of years.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 24, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Kenjon is a very good interview.
I’m always impressed with how well he answers question, how clearly he communicates and how calm he appears.
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Its so cute
To read Twitter today you’d think USC is back because they beat an average ND team. Oh USC, you’re not back, not close.
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If by "back" people mean they are returning to 2005 form this is clearly ludicrous
but they are 6-1 and will likely finish the season 8-3, having only lost to the PAC12 South champ and a couple top ten teams (UO and Stan). A lot better than 8-5 last year. They will almost certainly be back as a top 2-3 team in the PAC within a few years baring complete idiocy in their coaching (yes, I’m aware this is very possible)
They have scholarship restrictions starting next year
It will get worse before it gets better, they’ll be under the scholarship limit the next 4-5 years at least.
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They still have a top recruiting class every year even with a few less guys
they have 4 top 10 classes in a row from 2008-2011. They won’t return to 2005 form next year but USC not being a major power in the PAC will always be short lived.
If Kiffin can coach
Not proven he can yet.
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The first 'restricted' class will be true freshmen next year,
So you won’t see the impact yet. It will actually get better before it gets worse before it gets better.
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That's unfortunate.
I actually thought all their sanctions were applied right away (Except for the retroactive ones).
That’s going to really suck…
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They start this year don't they?
which include a reduction of 30 scholarships over three years, starting in 2011 –
It's a mixed bag.
On one hand, delaying the sanctions means extending the time we’re not going to be competing for national championships. On the other hand, we were able to prepare by signing a huge class that will mean more wins during the sanction years.
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Did Farmer play Saturday?
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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 24, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah
one 11 yard carry, one 9 yard reception. He was in for returns but the ball never got kicked to his side. Not sure if he’ll have a ‘breakout game’ where he makes a major impact this year.
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Do you think Der Kiffermister burned his RS so he wouldn't leave?
I think we’re starting to do that with some of our elite talent. I wish we’d do that with some of our receivers.
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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 25, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Last year I thought Robert Smith didn’t like us for some reason maybe because we kept proving him wrong but now I’m fully convinced that he doesn’t last night on the BCS show he ranked us 9th yet had Oklahoma ranked 6th, I’m not even saying we should be ranked 6th but we should definitely be ahead of Oklahoma & above 9th
Yeah, loss to #1 team in the country at netural site
Not nearly as bad as losing to 30-point underdog at home.
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I wouldn't worry too much what one of WWL's biggest blowhards thinks of us.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 24, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Can only speak for myself...
but I don’t care what he thinks. I do, however, care that he’s spewing his nonsense to people who don’t know what to think of us. Because then there are all these fans who think something that’s false because an “expert” said so. I’m the type of person that I really, truly don’t care what people think about me (or my team). My frustration, though, is just with the fact that someone is allowed to repeatedly say inaccurate things and essentially have below-average performance in his job with seemingly no consequences. There’s plenty of former players from the Pac 10/12 who would do such a better job than him. They really need to get some new blood in there.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 24, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Honestly, I can’t blame people for ranking us low anymore. Until we win a BCS bowl or actually beat a non-pac top ten team, I don’t think we deserve to be ahead of others.
Yup
Oklahoma is in the same category as us. Also, I’m not concerned so much about where Robert Smith or the rest rank us. I realize I was replying to a comment about that, so I should have been more specific. I don’t really care about their rankings. I just hate their non-informed comments about us, like Smith saying last year, “Oregon’s defense is a total fraud” because we weren’t big enough. You can say what you want about us losing the NCG, that “fraud” of a defense held Auburn to their second lowest point total (22) of the year. Lower than mighty Alabama held them (28), South Carolina (56 & 35), or LSU (24). It’s the ignorant statements that bother me, not their opinions.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 24, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Somewhat related,
but one of my biggest peeves right now re sports journalism is the accusation that Oregon’s offense has been “exposed” in big games. Stewart Mandel said it in his column just today, contrasting Oregon’s presumably fraudulent spread offense against Stanford’s much more respectable pro-style, which of course wouldn’t be “exposed” as a fraud against an SEC defense.
It’s silly, it’s lazy, it’s ridiculous. Good offenses get shut down by great defenses all the time. No-one bats an eyelash when high flying SEC teams battle each other to 17-13 results. No-one says a word to question the fundamental legitimacy of Oklahoma’s offense when FSU holds them well below their averages. Or when Oklahoma/ Texas/ tOSU have their previously potent attacks stymied in a defensive battle during NCGs/ BCS bowls. Auburn wins the NCG by just 3 points following a freak play at the end of regulation, yet only one of the previously high-flying offenses has been “exposed”. Hell, when fBSU is held well below averages against the TCU D (or any of their close-clunky-games-when-no-one’s-looking that they have every year), no-one says a word about the “legitimacy” of their offense.
Yet when Chip Kelly’s Oregon Ducks perform somewhat below averages (nevermind how good 27 points looks against this LSU D) against a great defense, it’s “exposed” as a fraudulent gimmick.
It’s lazy and wildly inconsistent, and “experts” who cover the sport for a living should be better than this.
/endrant.
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by omb on Oct 24, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Cal uncovered the secret last year!
They’ll shut us down again this year too.
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by JShufelt on Oct 24, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Couldn’t agree with you more. And as much as I don’t care what people think about me, it irritates me for some reason when people say this. It doesn’t irritate me because I think that they think less of the Ducks, it irritates me because it’s complete and utter bullshit. And when someone is paid to know their stuff, it just irritates me to no end when they obviously don’t…and taking it a step further, when they are spewing that erroneous information.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 24, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
And that's why I don't really
pay much attention to national writers. They just don’t know and don’t care to know.
/jakelockerisagreatquarterback
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by flyduckfly on Oct 24, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Keep it going....
I felt like you were just hitting the meat of your argument when you stopped
/fuckthetalkingheadsportscasters
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 24, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
To be fair, here's what Mandel wrote:
….Stanford is a different breed from Oregon, which has seen its spread offense exposed in its recent SEC matchups. This is an old-school, pro-style team with a future All-Pro quarterback, several high-round offensive linemen and three NFL-caliber tight ends. We don’t know if the Cardinal can match up with LSU or Alabama — but wouldn’t it be nice to find out?
It’s a fact that our offense doesn’t put up 500 yards and 50 ppg against top SEC teams. That’s not arguable. And he does not say anything like Stanford’s offense “wouldn’t be ‘exposed’ as a fraud against an SEC defense”.
He says he doesn’t know if Stanford could match up with them, but it would be fun to seem them try. What’s wrong with saying that? Hell, I’d like to see Stanford play LSU.
We had our shot at beating LSU and blew it. Maybe we get another shot at them or Bama. Expect to read articles that are a LOT more anti-Oregon than what Mandel wrote.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.
Good post and I generally agree with your point here.
Question thought: do you think it was the style of offense that caused problems in our recent SEC matchups? Or was it the type of players we had on the O-Line? Or something else? And it’s possible, I suppose, that we’ll just go in a circle since our style of offense dictates that we recruit smaller more mobile O-linemen who are better suited to a spread offense which dictates that we recruit smaller…you get the point.
Anyway, what I’m saying is – Mandel makes the point that it’s the spread offense that’s being exposed. Honestly I think it’s the talent level that’s been exposed, especially on the offensive line, and maybe Chip Kelly’s coaching strategy in those big games.
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But there it is
which has seen its spread offense exposed in its recent SEC matchups.
Exposed. As in, it seemed to be a great offense but in fact was not. It was dissembling quality but its unworthiness was brought to light. Mandel himself has said that due to this, voters should (or at least will) look askance at Oregon because it has been thus “exposed”. The Stanford point might have been hyperbolic on my part but it’s also not my central argument.
My point is, when other teams have similar results – ie, perform well below their averages when facing very good defenses, they simply don’t get this kind of criticism, even schools like fBSU. Yes, Oregon demonstrably performs worse than its averages against elite SEC defenses, but so does everyone else (see OU, NCG ‘08). But then, next time around, those schools get more benefit of the doubt because their whole system hasn’t been deemed “exposed” despite generally “struggling” just as much against the same levels of competition.
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But in other news, yay Cliff Harris.
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Don't want to spam, but
something’s been bugging me for a while, so I wrote a little essay about it. I honestly don’t care about hits on my dumb blog, I just needed somewhere to put it.
http://www.addictedtoquack.com/2011/10/23/2508783/fan-entitlement
by Twith on Oct 24, 2011 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Fusky game at 7:30 on 11/5 on FSN
Gah, probably means we get the crappy announcing crew again.
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MOTHERFUCKER
guess I get to change my hotel reservations.
Shufelt and JPDX, to the batcave.
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Shufelt, JPDX...
DO NOT GO WITH HIM TO THE BATCAVE!!! Weird things are bound to happen down there, in the dark!
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by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 24, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
It never does any good to yell at them
that they shouldn’t go into the batcave, basement, or any other dark and scary place. Surely you’ve seen the movie.
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It worked out well in “Real Genius.”
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 24, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
That makes for a long night...
Get out of Seattle sometime after midnight, putting us back in Portland between 3 and 5 am… I guess I should have thought that through a little better.
Nice
So far this year LSU has more victories (8) than yards allowed on punt returns (7)
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And their punter is a boss
Although Jackson Rice is completely awesome, too.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Oct 24, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
That probably doesn’t even count the yards they got on Mathieu’s strip/score and Wing’s “come at me, bro” fakeout
On the flip side
So far this year, Notre Dame has more victories (4) than punt return yardage (3)
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Line of the day
Colts lost 62-7. If Suck for Luck was run like the BCS that’d be called “style points”
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by skywaker9 on Oct 24, 2011 10:46 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I was about to win my fantasy football match-up before the Saints decided they’d keep throwing. Brees threw his 4th TD pass up 34-7 in the 3rd quarter. They threw 7 times on the drive and ran it 4 times. Then Brees threw his 5th TD pass up 41-7 with less than 2 minutes left in the 3rd quarter to get up 48-7.
I’m not one that really cares all that much about “running it up”, but I could see where the Colts fans on Twitter were coming from. If you are running the ball and the other team can’t stop that, there’s nothing you can do. But they kept throwing and throwing when it was painfully clear that the Colts weren’t putting up a fight. And in the 4th quarter the Saints were blitzing pretty much every down on the Colts, up 55-7, which ultimately resulted in a pick-6 to make it 62-7. Ouch.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 24, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
To paraphrase Ted Miller in his PAC12 power rankings
“If you don’t like getting blown-out, play better!” It is the NFL, not Pop Warner. I see no problem with beating a team by 100.
I agree that hurt feelings and whatnot are less of a concern in a pro league.
And if one team is “quitting” or whatever, they deserve every last unnecessary point that gets hung on them. I do take issue with “running it up” when a team doesn’t seem to be looking after its OWN interests, by keeping starters in, or keeping a bunch of time on the clock by throwing when it’s well in hand, making your guys take more snaps than they need to. At that point, you should be looking to the next week, to the rest of the season. Run the clock and get out healthy.
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This
Sproles was in with like a couple minutes left in the fourth and had one play where he got lit-up Boyett style. They still kept him in there and on the very next play he got hit hard in the legs again. Nothing happened but that is horrible coaching and seems unnecessary.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 24, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
"If you don’t like getting blown-out, play better!" It is the NFL, not Pop Warner. I see no problem with beating a team by 100.
I’m not one that really cares all that much about "running it up"
I don’t care either. It doesn’t bother me. That said, there’s something to be said for no kicking someone when they are down. The Colts are clearly not “the Colts” with Manning out and the Saints really seemed to be going for the jugular. Makes me wonder if there’s something else going on there.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 24, 2011 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting Stat
I was looking over the statistics on ESPN, and randomly discovered Oregon leads the nation in passes defended at 42. Will be very interesting to see how that plays out against Stanfords Trio of Terrorizing TEs
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That just blew my mind. But damn… You’re right…
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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Makes sense with most teams playing from behind
and feeling the need to throw.
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Interesting that we lead the nation in this category
but have one of the worst teams in picking the QB, which is almost the same thing. This further supports my bold theory that relatively rare stats like sacks, picks, grand slams etc are equal parts luck and skill
INTs are kind of a difficult stat because there is so much blame to share, and so much skill and luck involved. You usually have to look at the career of a player to know how well someone was at getting INTs (Or how often they threw INTs).
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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Yeah, you need a very large sample size with those rare stats to make a difference
I’m not sure if this means we defended the pass very well this year and last, but this year we haven’t gotten lucky with the picks in’11 while last year we got more than our fair share? My thought is yes.
We've also faced some serious pass heavy offenses too
in Arizona and ASU. CU, Cal and Nevada had no choice but to pass to catch up.
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It’s true. But it was one of those things where in my head I thought “We haven’t been breaking up passes that much this year”, and when I see we are leading the country in that… it’s kinda shocking to me.
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I just did a little bit of nerdism...
Just to find out how many Passes Defended Per Passing Attempt (Everyone needs a little PDPPA)
1. Alabama, 0.23
2. Georgia, .021
3. San Diego State, .021
4. Penn State, .020
5. Oregon, 0.19
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by JShufelt on Oct 24, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What about passes broken up per incompletion
1 Oregon 37.60%
2 Alabama 37.30%
3 BYU 36.04%
4 Georgia 34.95%
5 Florida State 34.83%
6 Southern Mississippi 34.23%
7 Penn State 34.17%
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by Matt Daddy on Oct 24, 2011 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
That’s interesting.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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What about passes defended per incompletion?
This is an interesting metric, as it shows a defense’s direct impact to causing incompletions, including turnovers. Unfortunately, when you factor in interceptions in to the equation, Oregon slides down the rankings.
- BYU 46%
- Georgia 46%
- Alabama 44%
- Penn State 44%
- San Diego State 44%
- Arizona State 44%
- Southern Mississippi 43%
- Oregon State 43%
- Wisconsin 43%
- Vanderbilt 43%
- Oregon 42%
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What's also interesting is that
Bama sees 2 less incompletions per game than Oregon. As a matter of fact Oregon is the only one of those top 5 teams that is also in the top 5 of incompletions per game.
So Oregon’s secondary, see more incompletions and breaks up more of the incomplete passes of anyone.
I’d say Oregon’s secondary is pretty good.
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Also interesting
LSU isn’t in the top 20 of any of those categories.
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But dem boyz iz
ESS EEE CEE!
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 24, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Still not as nerdy as Linux boy up above.
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very interesting!
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by gamedaytribe on Oct 24, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
What constitutes a "defended pass" anyways?
Any ball thrown to a receiver that is an incompletion?
A ball that is touched by the defender?
Is it different than a “pass breakup”?
I’m confused.
My parents believed in me.
A pass break up is when a defender knocks the ball away or hits the receiver hard enough to where he doesn’t catch it.
Passes defended is the same thing plus INTs.
I accidently got them backwards earlier.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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Even more impressive is that he still leads the team in the category.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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I know you still think he should play
but you at least have to admit now that Chip apparently knows what he’s doing because A) it’s clear Cliff still has some things to work out (see pregame penalty and safety) and B) our secondary has done well enough to not lose us any games (and looking at the stats above, they’re pretty darn good with and without him.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 24, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, sort of
I really don’t like being in the dark (I’m sure most Ducks fans don’t like it) about why our best defensive player is sitting on the sidelines, but I think it’s obvious that Cliff is having focus issues and apparently the coaches are using play time as the stick to try and teach him that lessons.
I will say that I still think he should be starting. Looking at the stats, even with his limited playing time he’s one of our best performers on the field. I’m sure there are a ton of coaches that would love to put up with this antics to have him on their team. That being said, I trust Kelly is doing what he thinks is right for the whole team, and even though he doesn’t feel the need to explain it to the fans, I’ll support that decision.
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I might have missed anything you’ve said about this, but what did you think about the fact that ASU kept scoring against Cliff? I thought he played horribly in that game, but you have a much better eye for that than I do.
Huh?
I only saw one score on an absolutely perfect throw by Osweiller to the back shoulder of Willey in the corner of the endzone. As a matter of fact I thought Cliff’s INT and return (fumble aside) completely changed the momentum of that game. Could you imagine if he’d dropped that and ASU kicked a FG a made it 20-14 at half instead of 17-21?
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They scored 3 TDs
1 was an out route that Boyett was covering to Robinson, 1 was the back shoulder throw against Cliff and the other was a rushing TD.
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Fair enough.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Oct 24, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
On Anthony Wallace's seeing his first action of the year
From Moseley’s Twitters:
I saw Hardrick leaving the Cas after practice. If he was too hurt to travel this past week, he wasn’t showing it.
In talking with some other fans, someone voiced a theory that with recruiting picking up we may not need to save players as much anymore by preserving their redshirts. I know Wallace could sit out next year and keep his 5th year, but when you’re recruiting lots of good talent, they want to know that they have a shot to play right away, or at least won’t be buried on the depth chart for their first two years.
Don’t know how much stock to put in that theory, but I thought it was interesting nonetheless.
My parents believed in me.
If CK wants to play him
I see no reason to disagree. He should be able to get some snaps on D along with a good amount of special teams plays.
my theory:
If Wallace is as good as I think he’s going to be, he will leave after three anyway.. So why redshirt?
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by benzduck on Oct 24, 2011 12:50 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Thinking about this,
it’s not exactly late in the season. Coming in to Colorado, there were still 7 or 8 games left on the year. Sure, if he was going to burn his redshirt it would have been nice to get him going earlier. But if he’s been coming on and earning time, he has plenty of time to make decent contributions as a backup and make this year count. If this was against USC, then it’s a different story.
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You want to know how much infighting there was at TDP this weekend?
Note to the Board Members
Over the last couple of weeks a number of our members have been out of line in some of their comments and the way they treat other posters and our writers. We actually had one of our writers quit/take time off/reevaluate this past week because of the negative personal comments that were directed toward him and his articles.
I think what was really disappointing to he and I was the fact that a number of our readers actually rec’d the nasty exchange. So I guess that sent the solid signal that his contributions were not wanted and appreciated so now he is gone.
It is OK to disagree/debate but it is not OK to treat people with a lack of respect! The Cassino and I sent out a number of warnings to the folks involved over the weekend. If you received one of those warnings you need to understand that you are on thin ice and if there is a single recurrence I will ban you from the blog.
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You know, you don't really
have to track their every move over there. It starts to look like you, and by extension the rest of us, are obsessed with UW, or their fan site. Ease up just a bit on the schadenfreude.
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by daisyduck on Oct 24, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I just enjoy the fact
that they went from uppity and mighty to imploding mutiny.
Nobody ever gets butthurt at ATQ
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Ok, but this makes me smile. Good work everyone.
One of the things we can actually do is record who actually rec’s your posts. Upon actual examination it seems that your rec’s came from UWBowdown11 and five known Duck fans from ATQ…I am not making this up and I am laughing as I am writing this…that is way too funny.
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by Matt Daddy on Oct 24, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The best part of this is
“known Duck fans”…like we’re documented felons or something. And I’m pretty sure Masoli doesn’t frequent AtQ.
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You see me trolling, hating…
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We REALLY ARE THE WORST FANBASE AROUND THE PAC-12
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Oct 24, 2011 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Robert Smith is going to say that our fans are fraudulent at being the worst fanbase in the Pac-12.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 24, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
You gonna eat your tots?
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 24, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions
THIS. SO THIS!!!
I really think it’s sad if you go over to other team blogs just to gloat or entertain yourself.
If you get along with them and are trying to contribute in a positive way, that’s fine.
But frankly, there is damn little that’s different about any given fan base. If we were in their shoes, not much would be different around ATQ.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Oct 24, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Watching the NO-IND game last night
They flashed a graphic that said something like:
All time NFL passing yards by college
Purdue was at the top and surprisingly, Oregon was in the top 5 (or 6). I can’t seem to find a link, but did anyone else see this?
If I wanted any lip from you, I'd unzip your pants.
I did
I can’t remember the exact numbers either.
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It seems generally understated
how impressive it is for a school like Oregon to have produced 6 NFL HOFers (with Ngata hopefully a potential candidate for #7 some day).
6 NFL hall of famers places UO in a 4-way tie for 7th most from a school all-time. When a couple of those are quarterbacks, you’re likely to be pretty far up the passing yards list too.
For stats fun, here’s how UO stacks up against the rest of the Pac-12:
Southern California (11) Marcus Allen , Morris (Red) Badgro , Frank Gifford , Ronnie Lott , Bruce Matthews , Ron Mix , Anthony Muñoz , O.J. Simpson* , Lynn Swann , Willie Wood , Ron Yary*
Oregon (6) Dan Fouts , Alphonse (Tuffy) Leemans* , Mel Renfro , Norm Van Brocklin , Dave Wilcox* , Gary Zimmerman
Arizona State (4) Mike Haynes , John Henry Johnson* , Randall McDaniel , Charley Taylor
UCLA (4) Troy Aikman* , Tom Fears* , Jimmy Johnson , Bob Waterfield
Stanford (3) John Elway , James Lofton , Ernie Nevers
Washington (3) Hugh McElhenny* , Warren Moon* , Arnie Weinmeister
Washington State (2) Albert Glen (Turk) Edwards , Mel Hein
California (1) Les Richter
Utah (1) Larry Wilson
Arizona (0)
Colorado (0)
Oregon State (0)
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Didn’t say explicitly on the HOF site, but it means they attended more than 1 college, and I guess all get credit. So Boise Junior College claims Dave Wilcox as their 1 hall of famer because he played there for 2 years before transferring to a real university.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Speaking of asterisks..
Tuffy Leemans was apparently a member of the freshman team at Oregon — but there’s no evidence he ever actually played in a game. He transferred to George Washington and went to the NFL from there.
It’s fair to say Oregon had little, if any, influence on his development as a player. But the HOF record states “Oregon, George Washington”, so we might as well claim him.
Thin, yes, but nowhere near as thin as UW claiming four national championships.
Oh, and: Pat Tillman should be in the College Hall of Fame. Just sayin’.
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From memory the list was something like this:
Purdue
ashington
Stanford? (not quite sure)
xxxxx
usc
Oregon
4 Pac 10 schools out of the top 6.
Huff SMASH!
When my time come , I’ma show out! Thanks to all the REAL DUCK FANS. I appreciate you guys
So saying that, For those of you that said y’all was disappointed in my play this past weekend HURRAY for you. I’m playing my ROLE.
What people don’t understand about me is that I can care less what you people think about me. Its only MOTIVATION.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Camera caught Huff
sitting on the bench, alone, with a real pouting, dejected look on his face though. It would be nice if his actions matched his words.
Though, in fairness, the WR’s aren’t being asked to do much more than block this season and he really hasn’t gotten a lot of looks.
My parents believed in me.
I thought he looked frustrated
Getting re-injured and playing an inferior opponent can’t be a lot of fun.
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The Daily Faberian
"Ima show out"
Who is our translator and why is he not on this. I already can’t understand twitter speak but this is at a whole new level.
"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly
I generally am the Twitter Translator around here
and for the life of me, I can’t figure out the specifics of this one. Just that he’s venting a bit.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Speaking of "running it up"
I was looking at the open thread on RalphieReport after the game the other day and noticed something I’ve seen several times in the past couple of years. After we went for 2 on the first touchdown, they were getting their panties all in a bunch and accusing Chip or running up the score.
This simply makes no sense to me. It’s ONE EXTRA POINT. How, exactly, is that going to help anything? Especially when you are talking about the first score of the game, or anything when the game is even remotely within reach. “Chip Kelly has no class…he wants to run up the score for the BCS” type of comments are just ridiculous. Talk about being a freaking baby.
If you do it when you are up 48-0 to try to get to 50-0, I can maybe see that. Or straight up go for it on every touchdown against a Portland State type of team, I can maybe see it. And even then it’s just “maybe”. I’ve seen fans of a bunch of different teams saying it, so it’s not just the Colorado fans. I just don’t get it. People can be so freaking irrational when it comes to sports.
Chip Kelly is a prick
going for two??
The biggest…..
by HBbuff
It’s a round world.. We just found our rival. We need to get better in a hurry
by Eforceone
what goes around comes around
…. someday
Why the hell did he go for two?
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He’s a dick
by Buff-in-CA on Oct 22, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Because Oregon needs to get back into the BCS race,
so they have to just totally destroy everyone.
by Gr3yStreet
just how they do. and he just doesn’t give an f
by OskiGoDumb
See above.
We look for 2 on every XP against every team.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 24, 2011 2:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I guess that says something about their team when they accuse you of running up the score when you’re only ahead 6-0
by westspec on Oct 24, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 9 recs
hahahaha
that’s too funny
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Apparently, they are going to choose us as their rival. I got to that article because I saw the quote below, but the rest of it talks about how Oregon should be their rival.
After his team was dominated by the 9th-ranked Oregon Ducks, 45-2, head coach Jon Embree was asked what he told his younger players, forced into action due to injuries to over a score of players. "I told the team, that is what you want to be," said Embree, pointing to the visiting locker room." That team in that locker room over there, that is what you want to be."
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 24, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Benzduck where are you?
Colorado took three of four games in the 1960′s and 70′s, with the 1979 game in Boulder the first game ever shown (albeit on tape delay) by a fledging new network by the name of … ESPN.
Do you have any idea if this could be found?
"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly
You'd have to ask ESPN.
It was on tape originally, so it existed at one time. But there was a time in the early 90s when tape started to be at a premium, and a LOT of tape vaults were raided for re-use. So it wouldn’t surprise me if it was just as lost as the Australian Rules Football regular season games they were airing at that time.
Side note: There’s a reference to this game in the ESPN book “Those Guys Have All The Fun” that came out this year. Someone recalls that they cut to an interview the day before the game (first day they were on the air) with new CU coach Chuck Fairbanks, only the audio track wasn’t there, so all they had was 90 seconds or so of Chuck Fairbanks flapping his jaw. First technical glitch ever. Later in the book, then-anchor Lee Leonard mentions the game but (incorrectly) recalls it as “Oregon vs Oregon State.”
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.
Hahaha, I was thinking this exact thing. What was the spread on Saturday? I thought I heard 34 points. Now, what was the spread in the Oklahoma – TT game? 30 points, right? Hmmmm…something tells me these things aren’t automatic.
I’m all for sportsmanship. I hate running up the score on an outclassed opponent because it’s embarrassing for them. I’m all for playing hard, but you put in your backups and you run simple plays meant to chew up clock. But a two-point conversion on the first score of the game? That’s not running up the score. That’s just a gameplan.
Heck, the Ducks wound up putting less than their season average up on the Buffaloes. And I think they could have easily gotten to 60 points.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
One could argue that it’s a sign of respect. Chip does it because he knows that you never know when you might need that 1 extra point sometime in the game. If he was taking them lightly he wouldn’t have gone for it!
by MarineCorpsDuck on Oct 24, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Chrissakes, we didn't score the entire 4th quarter
What were they saying then in their open thread when we were practically sitting down on the field trying to NOT GAIN yards so we wouldn’t score on them again?
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They were saying
“Damn, I wonder what scholly offers that Forde kid got?”
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
After the Clay Pick 6
There were maybe 10-15 more comments the rest of the game. They didn’t say anything, we just broke them.
by INducktrination on Oct 24, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
It's understandable -- people normally go for 2 only if the game is on the line and very close
When you’re expecting the opponent to steamroll you and score a ton anyway, there seems no need to go for 2.
Just sayin’.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Oct 24, 2011 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
And I'm not happy about doing all this anti-trolling anti-meanspirited ATQ fan speak around here
We seem to have gotten rather abrasive and mean of late.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Oct 24, 2011 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Go to the 'other thread,' the first FanPost. Get 'Sanchez'd' for free.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Dirty Sanchez-ing
Will cost you extra.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 24, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Why the hell did he go for two?
Because it’s just smart football to try it live if you think you might have to try it with a game on the line some day. And given that, the absolute best time for it would be after your first score, when the game is still very close. Now pulling a Harbaugh and going for 2 at the tail end of a blowout… different deal.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Ask the question, answer the question...go back to the Cal game last year...the 2 pt conversion changed everything!
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
In addition, strategically,
you want upcoming opponents to have to spend precious game-prep time working on that wrinkle. USC has been doing the same thing. And to keep people honest, you need to not just show the look, but actually pull the trigger from time to time. You run it against CU to remind UW that yes, they will have to deal with it to, so they better prepare for it.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
My uncle is a CU grad
I spent half my time at R Bar while watching the game defending ourselves against his angry and drunk texts. “so classles” blah blah blah.
I can certainly understand how at first blush people think that’s cockiness to go for 2, but jesus. I explained our actions fully, at least I got an apology the next day. Go Ducks!
by yOur favOrite team's favOrite team. on Oct 24, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's what EDSBS wrote in the Alphabetical:
O is for Oddity. The strangest box score of the weekend goes to: Oregon 45, Colorado 2. (Also known as “Chip Kelly tosses you a nickel because he feels sorry for you, except that it hits you in the eye and blinds you.”)
http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/10/24/2506834/college-football-week-8-les-miles-lsu
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
I'm surprised more teams don't do it
and I’ve seen other teams trying the same thing — pretty sure Houston does it, at least a couple times at the start of a game.
I like Chip’s thinking on this. "If you’re going to give us two points, we’re going to take it. Don’t want to give up two points? Play defense. Don’t assume anything.
“Why does YOUR coaching staff’s inability to pay attention and prepare to defend a play that is SIMPLE to defend make ME an arrogant dick?”
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.
Um, it's like hard to get into the endzone and stuff.
And it gets harder the closer you get to the goal line.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 24, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone else wonder why Bennett isn't the holder?
I love Jackson Rice- and he’s obviously really talented… but he is not the same caliber athlete running or throwing. BB kinda needs a role once Thomas comes back- I mean he just seems too talented not to have some role. Nate was great at it-
It is probably attributed to Rice's size.
A lot off our pre-kick two point conversions require the snapper to power his way in. the successful one against Col, required Rice to power his way through a tackler. Bennett may not have scored that point. Then again having a good throwing arm should open up different possibilities.
"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly
I also wondered that.
It’s dangerous, though (see also: Costa).
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 25, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
This is my favorite:
Because Oregon needs to get back into the BCS race,
so they have to just totally destroy everyone.
by Gr3yStreet
In retrospect, when Kelly took his foot completely off the throttle for the entire second half, this is just flat out wrong. Chip kelly showed more mercy than probably 90% of coaches would have.
At the point they made those remarks, Kelly hadn't done that yet.
And it’s true. We do need to run up the score. I am disappointed we scored only 45. Kelly was kind. Duck fans, not so much.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Oct 24, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
well
It’s 100% correct in what he/she said — Oregon does need to score big to impress BCS voters (sadly). Which is what I was pointing out. The fact that Kelly did not run it up and try to impress BCS voters reflects well on Kelly, but doesn’t refute what the original poster was saying.
So it was a reasonable comment, not unexpected at all, for an opponent seeing a heavily favored team go for 2 in the first quarter itself say to explain that.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Oct 24, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
It's interesting to think about what would've happened had DT and LMJ not been hurt.
Rather than Kenjon and Bennett sitting most of the second half, they would’ve been in (Bennett would have, at least) significantly more as the backups. Even if we were mostly running it, we WOULD have at least broken fifty, I think. Lucky break for the Buffs.
Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.
(Good call, Daisy)
by lovemyducks81 on Oct 24, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll just leave this here...
@McNamaraUO: Bryan Bennett’s 134 rushing yards in the last 2 games are more than Darron Thomas (116) has all season #goducks
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Oct 24, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Cool! Thanx, axe.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Another interesting Duck QB stat:
18.5% of Darron Thomas’ completions have resulted in touchdowns, the highest percentage among all FBS QBs
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
In layman's terms
1 of 5 completions is a TD.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Oct 25, 2011 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Anyone know anything about this?
Fast forward to 2011. Colorado, which could have – should have – joined the Pac-12 in 1996.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Oct 24, 2011 3:44 PM PDT reply actions
Not sure if he is being specific
except that they were doing well at that time. It has been rumored that CU has long wanted to join the Pac though due to better recruiting for their environment, so it wouldn’t surprise me in the least if there was some missed opportunity on one side or the other between CU and the Pac. CU is far more Pac than they ever were Big12, now they just need to build themselves up and start being successful again.
Come along now, Cabot!
Cliff Harris was puller over in Eugene
Car searched and towed. Newest rumors around the twitterz
Apparently he was at McD's
http://twitter.com/#!/rdowner22/status/128581436675596288/photo/1
Careful what you write about this, everyone.
ALL we know is that someone took a pic of someone who looked like CH13 from the back talking to what appeared to be a cop.
Very, very stupid to draw conclusions.
Wait for a police report, at least.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.
Here's your report
DuckFootball Rob Moseley
Cliff Harris’ troubles behind the wheel continue: Cited by EPD today for driving while suspended, uninsured and without a seatbelt.
I’m working on getting the report details, but obviously someone from the media will beat me to it.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
I might have been communicating with him as he posted it.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Back to the doghouse
If he wasn’t there already. And Chip just slammed the door and locked it.
I am
but there are several students who were tweeting that it was cliffy. Either way, just speculation. But I wouldn’t be surprised if he was driving around Eugene with a suspended license
What a dumbass.
Really disappointing. Team needs him and he’s going stay on the bench.
My parents believed in me.
Fuck the bench
I bet he doesn’t dress the rest of the year, probably ever.
Here’s the thing, they towed the car. Now, that’s not unusual with a suspended license and a car that can’t possibly be his if it wasn’t insured. But here’s the worry (for him): There were 4 officers at the scene.
That means one of two things, most likely: A) Someone called for assistance/back up or B) They were looking for him.
As long as DT wasn’t in the passenger seat, it’s an improvement.
here’s an alleged picture of the scene
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
He's done for the rest of the year.
I think Chip MIGHT give him one more chance next year. If he decides to return that is. I’m irritated that he keeps making stupid decisions. But it saddens me to see this go down the way it has.
Jamere Holland.
When you’ve run yourself entirely out of chances, Chip is more than ready to boot you out the door even for piddling infractions.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
True.
But, I really think Chip and the staff are committed to Cliff, whether rational or not.
"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly
Case in point: Kiko Alonso
DUI suspended for year, turns around and is drunk and disorderly, one game suspension. This is Cliffs 2nd strike, just as it was Alonso’s. Jamere Holland had a previous history with the Ducks, and publicly called out Chips leadership ability on Facebook.
Wasn't he involved with the theft incident as well.
"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly
It's also possible that there were four
Just because he’s Cliff Harris and they knew the stop would make headlines and have serious consequences for CH13.
by WeeJa on Oct 24, 2011 7:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
This is what I like about our coaches though
DuckFootball Rob Moseley
An Oregon spokesman said the Ducks are still looking into the incident.
They aren’t gonna just kick his ass down the flight of stairs, yet. They’ll do their due dilligence, and then what happens, happens.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
What else would you have expected them to say, this close to the event? This is PR 101. Hell, it’s PR 080.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.
There are other big-name schools that with a player with his record, would have suspended indef. while looking into it
Never liked that approach.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
*Insert Price is Right fail noise*
lotzofboldts Scott Boldt
Cliff Harris’ safety @ Colorado may very well be the very last play he ever makes at Oregon #SadTweet
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Oct 24, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
At least the Cliff thing happened now.....
So he doesn’t waste any reps against WSU…..We need guys who are going to be playing down the stretch taking all the reps against WSU….
Completely unrelated: Did Anthony Gildon play on saturday? I swear, I never saw him on the field and that Troy Hill was in there right from the get-go.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 24, 2011 6:49 PM PDT reply actions
Really disappointed.
The WSU game is going to be my first Autzen game since I joined the AF 5 years ago. Really wanted to see him play. :(
Sorry to hear that
Here’s to guessing a different member of our secondary has a pick 6 on Saturday!
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Oct 24, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
per Aaron J. Fentress
@AaronJFentress
Oregon suspends Cliff Harris for traffic violations pending further investigation, the school announced.
Boom goes the dynamite
No surprise there
It’s pretty much open and shut case, no he said, she said, no criminal investigation.
Just fucking walk to McDonald's already, damnit!
Or ride a bike….it’s not that far!
My parents believed in me.
by flyduckfly on Oct 24, 2011 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
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