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How We Stop: Wait, we want Andrew Luck to throw MORE?

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Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck: scraggly, mouth-breathing God of football. He's got the Heisman trophy all but locked up. He has multiple NFL teams losing games on purpose, just to get the chance to draft him. He can throw a  football over those mountains over there. But I want Andrew Luck to have to throw the ball a lot on Saturday. I want him to throw the ball a lot because it will mean the Oregon Ducks have shut down the real key to the Stanford offense: their running game. 

Stanford is a running team, despite what the Andrew Luck Hype Machine will lead you to believe. The Cardinal rank 17th in the country, putting up 224 yards per game, and averaging 5.7 yards per carry as a team. Like Oregon's offense, an effective running game opens up all facets of the offense. But rather than spreading the field and utilizing the zone read, Stanford employs a power running game, and the playaction pass is their deception - see the Luck-to-Fleener touchdown in last year's Oregon-Stanford game as an example. But playaction is moot if the ground game is never established. Stop the run, and the Cardinal lose not one, but two aspects of their game.  

Star-divide

Stanford is converting over 53% of the time on third down, placing them second in the nation in that category. This has very little to do with the actual third down play, and everything to do with Stanford's running game and their effectiveness on first and second downs. Time for some facts.

  • Against washington, Stanford was 8-12 on third down; their average yards-to-go on third down was a shade over four. 
  • Against USC, their average yards-to-go jumped up to over 7 and a half, and the Cardinal only converted 6 of 15 third down chances, 
  • Against the huskies, Stanford's longest third down was 3rd-and-8, and that happened once. 
  • Against USC, Stanford faced a 3rd-and-8-or-more seven times. 
  • Why compare these two games? Because against washington, Stanford ran for 446 yards, averaged 10.1 yards per carry, and scored 65 points. Against USC, they averaged less than four yards per carry and scored 34 points in regulation, their lowest total of the season. Forcing the Cardinal into third and long forces Andrew Luck to make predictable throws to a sub-par group of receivers (who will be even worse Saturday with the absences of Zach Ertz and Chris Owusu), and drastically lowers their ability to sustain drives, control the ball, and score points. Also of note: in overtime of the USC game, Stanford scored three easy touchdowns on all three of their possessions. They faced one third down in overtime. It was a 3rd-and-1.

    Oregon's defense is coming off their best game of the season, holding washington to 82 yards rushing, 92 less than their season average coming into the game. They recorded six sacks, forced three turnovers, and never let anyone on the offensive side of the ball for the huskies get comfortable.  It will take a performance like that one to keep the Cardinal under 40. Stanford boasts the best offensive line Oregon has seen since LSU, and the best group of blocking tight ends in the conference, even with the loss of Ertz. And even if Oregon's front seven is able to neutralize Stanford's rushing attack, they've still got Andrew Luck under center, and it'll take a great effort from our secondary to make Luck's job as hard as possible. And while I do think we can win a shootout, it'll be a heck of a lot easier to leave the Farm with a win if it doesn't become a "whoever gets the ball last, wins" kind of game. 

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No Gerhart this year = has to be better than 09

"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin

by haveasoda on Nov 10, 2011 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

Your hate has made you powerful.

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#FireCraigJames

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 10, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously.

11/07/09, never forget.

Andrew Luck, the epitome of handsome.

by CaDuck on Nov 10, 2011 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Too Soon

Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!

by gamedaytribe on Nov 10, 2011 5:17 PM PST up reply actions  

The thing I feel comfortable with is that each of the last two years we have handed them the

1st quarter. In ’09 we were down a bunch early and never got things under control. Last year, we were down a bunch early and came back and blew the doors off the game. This year, if we can just start out ok I like our chances coming down to the end of the third quarter and into the fourth.

by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Nov 10, 2011 11:44 AM PST reply actions  

Despite the perception...

…by some (media, fans of other teams, etc…) that we’re not as good as we were last year, Oregon has done a better job of not falling behind early this year.

by Bluescale on Nov 10, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

We're not as good as last year.

On the other hand, neither is Stanford IMO. While our defensive numbers are…OK, the number that jumps out is the TO ratio compared to last year. We ended up amongst the national leaders last year, This year we’ve barely broken even for most of the season. Offensively it’s kind of the same old story. We don’t turn it over much, but we still let teams stay with us longer that I would like. UA, ASU, WSU, UW, Cal. All of ’em were within shouting distance at the start of the second half. The difference has been the “15 Minutes of Hell” that is the 3rd quarter.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 10, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh?
OK, the number that jumps out is the TO ratio compared to last year.

Saying we are not as good because our TO ratio is significantly lower than last year makes NO sense to me. Fans need to understand that there is a huge element of luck involved in TOs, especially fumbles. The Ducks have been far less lucky than they were last year. That doesn’t mean they are not as good.

by upper left corner on Nov 11, 2011 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Some of it is luck

A lot of it is not having Cliff, TJIII, Matthews, etc. The replacements aren’t as good at creating turnovers as those guys were.

by Twith on Nov 11, 2011 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

They aren't as good.

And how does a significantly lower TO ratio NOT indicate a drop-off defensively? THAT makes no sense to ME. And the offense, even at its best, has rarely run with the machine-like precision it did most of last year. Both of these points are pretty obvious to the naked eye. And “luck” doesn’t mean the difference between +27 and +4, or whatever we are this year. That’s absurd. That defensive performance we saw @ UW? That was what we were used to last year in general, rather than it being a heartening anomaly.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 11, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I 100% agree with this analysis.

It’s almost as if Takimoto knows what he’s talking about…

"It’s great with these group of guys. There is no panic in them." --Chip Kelly, Clearly NOT talking about members of ATQ.

@jblair26

by M. Fletcher on Nov 10, 2011 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

Don't get any ideas.

A broken clock is right twice a day.

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by Takimoto on Nov 10, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

A stopped clock is right twice a day.

A broken clock could remain wrong for days, weeks, even years.

I’m a clock metaphor nazi.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Nov 10, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That all depends on what your definition of "broken" is.

I define broken as, it isn’t working. If a clock is slow or on the wrong time, it’s working, just incorrectly.

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by Takimoto on Nov 10, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

If my car is in the garage, unstarted, is it "broken"?

After all, it isn’t working …

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Nov 11, 2011 12:44 AM PST up reply actions  

If MY clock is broken, Smashed beyond recognition, I don't know whether it's right or not

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Nov 11, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

It works. It just is turned off.

I’ll change my launguage from “isn’t working” to “unable to work at all”.

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by Takimoto on Nov 11, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I hate that pretentious preening fool.

I’m sure he does, too.

Author at Acme Packing Company, a Green Bay Packers blog, and Editor at BT Powerhouse, a Big Ten Basketball blog
#FireCraigJames

by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 10, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

It's pretty amazing that Stanford averaged just over 4 yards to go on 12 third downs against Uw.

Great analysis Tako. If we get Stanford into passing downs, that will be a great indicator if Oregon will win the game or not.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Nov 10, 2011 1:15 PM PST reply actions  

IIRC, I think at five or six of those 12 were third and 2-or-less.

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by Takimoto on Nov 10, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

LMJ was on Oregon Football,

and was asked what he remembered most from the 2009 game. And reasons for the loss.

He said that mostly they were very flat. No energy. And they didn’t get much lift from the crowd there. So he urged Duck fans to come to the game and cheer (he was joking about putting an ad in the paper).

Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!

by gamedaytribe on Nov 10, 2011 5:28 PM PST reply actions  

Here's an idea for the team.

This year, decide if you want it bad enough BEFORE the game, not after.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Nov 10, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

OMG

I can’t believe you posted a picture with the word “touched” on it.

-axemen23

"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian

by Matt Daddy on Nov 10, 2011 10:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

We gotta photoshop a visor on this handsome creature.........SHUUUUUUU-FFFELLLLLTTTT!!!!!!

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Nov 11, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

You're a funny guy.

Addicted to Quack, #1 Oregon blog among female Duck fans, including the ageless and ever-radiant daisyduck.

by Takimoto on Nov 11, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

That is GREAT. rec away, sports fans.

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Nov 11, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

oh, that's beautiful

"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian

by Matt Daddy on Nov 11, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec'd but what happened to the other one?

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Nov 11, 2011 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

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