MBB Game 2 Preview & Open Thread: Eastern Washington at Oregon
by David Piper on Nov 17, 2011 6:36 PM PST
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Eastern Washington Eagles (1-1) at Oregon Ducks (0-1)
7:00 PT, Matthew Knight Arena
TV: Comcast SportsNet Northwest
Call it the revenge of Martin Seiferth.
For those of you unaware, last year's Human Victory Cigar transferred to Eastern Washington in the offseason, presumably in search of a place where his talents could actually yield some playing time. And, while he'll have to sit this one out due to NCAA transfer rules, not playing in this one will mean that Seiferth has about the same impact that he's had in every Oregon game he's ever been involved with.
Jokes aside, Oregon comes home tonight seeking its first win of the young season. And a win is expected here-even in a bad Pac-12, Oregon letting a Big Sky team come into MKA and push them around would be a bad, bad sign for the future of Oregon's season. The Eagles are no gimme, holding four second half leads againt Gonzaga before taking and eight point loss at Gonzaga, and rebounding with a dominating win over South Dakota in game two. That said, this is a game Oregon should win, and win convincingly.
Eastern Washington's primary scoring threat is 6'6" JC transfer forward Collin Chiverton. He's gone for 25 in both of the Eagles' first two games, and he's the definition of a bulk shooter-getting those 50 points on 45 field goal attempts, with more than half of those coming from three. He's not a huge threat to drive to the bucket or get to the line, but Chiverton from the outside will be a recurring theme of the EWU offense, and a big reason that Oregon needs to continue the man-to-man that we saw in the second half of the Vanderbilt game and ditch the zone.
The other major players on the EWU roster are a pair of Cliffs, senior point guard Cliff Colimon, who went for 17 points and eight assists against Gonzaga, and forward Cliff Ederaine, a 6'7" senior forward who went for 15 points and 14 boards against South Dakota. That 1-2-3 punch gives the Eagles a nice balance-Chiverton the main scoring threat and the outside guy, Colimon the playmaking point guard, and Ederaine the inside post threat. It's the perfect to provide Oregon some nice challenges, while still being one they should win (unless they pull a UCLA).
Look for Oregon to go man defensively in this one-its Altman's preference, and also was much more effective against Vanderbilt. Oregon needs to have EJ Singler draped over Chiverton all night, but also improve on the two things that really cost then against the Commodores: the turnovers, and the rebounding. Woods, Jacob, Ashaolu, and Emory will need to control the glass, as both Ederaine and 6'8" Laron Griffin are outstanding rebounders.
KEYS TO THE GAME:
Control Chiverton -- the guy is averaging 25 a game, and can score in buckets if he gets into a rhythm. He'll hang out at the three point line, so he needs to have a man on him with no room to shoot at all times.
Win the battle of the boards -- EWU is a classic bulk shooting team, averaging less than 40% on their field goals this season. Control the boards, and its going to be tough for them to make enough baskets.
Get Brown comfortable --- Against Vanderbilt, Jabari Brown looked like a freshman playing in his first game. Now, with the national spotlight off, its time to settle in and get ready to be a factor in the Pac-12.
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Is he hurt?
Otherwise he is playing. there is no reason to bench a kid that needs all the playing time he can get.
"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly
I'm pumped despite the weak competition
I want to see a heavy dose of Tony Woods + Olu Asholou in the deep post & Jabari Brown to rid the nerves of the Vandy game.
Get it done... Paul.
What to do, what to do.
Do I go paintballing, or to the game…
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
both Brown and Ashaolu are warming up
--Dave
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Two things
One, Ashalou is good to go.
Two, there is no reason I should wander in after an hour of paintball and be in the pit crew. Weak. There’s fewer people here than grand canyon state.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 6:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Altman is talking about how its been a good week of practice
He was talking about how poor practice had been before the Vandy game last week, so this is nice
--Dave
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I really like what ewu does
Instead of a last minute chalk talk, when the ducks left the floor they started shooting at both baskets
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 6:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I really like what ewu does
Instead of a last minute chalk talk, when the ducks left the floor they started shooting at both baskets
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 6:56 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Sounds like jabari is playing against an old hs teammate
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 7:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Bruce Barron in for sim
There goes that redshirt. That makes 11 ducks in the game tonight. Remember joseph comes back and theres our 12 dressed players with kuemper redshirting and the walk ons…walking
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 7:34 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Perhaps Bruce Barron
Was the one impressing Altman in practice? Or was Sim injured?
Get it done... Paul.
rarely do they red shirt basketball playrrs
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
There's more turnovers in this game than Shufelt's Grandma's kitchen
Also brent musburger is here along with chip kelly
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 7:58 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Musburger is a little...wider...than I thought.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 8:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This smells like vandy hangover
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 8:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This is pathetic
how many times can a team turn the ball over?
--Dave
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if you watch beaver football game you'd know
I kid I kid no I don’t the beavers suck this year
oh, them beavers
I hope this make you feel a little better
oh, them beavers
Doesn't make ME feel better
but I imagine it warms the duckies’ fowl hearts a bit :)
We'll find out at the conclusion of tonights game.
No reason we should be this close, ewu is shooting really well and getting too many second chances
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 8:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Shooting really well?
34% FG%
"I'm not into statements, I'm into winning games" -Chip Kelly
by Heaven's Calamity on Nov 17, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions
EWU has 17 more shots than us
because of turnovers and offensive rebounds
--Dave
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That does not mean shooting well
"I'm not into statements, I'm into winning games" -Chip Kelly
by Heaven's Calamity on Nov 17, 2011 8:29 PM PST up reply actions
I think he was reinforcing his statement
he made previously to axeman, in regard to him saying EWU was shooting well.
Get it done... Paul.
Ok, Barron can stay
That was filthy.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 8:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions
seriously
does CSN have a sound guy? This is terrible
--Dave
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hey at least your team gets on tv
right?
oh, them beavers
all Pac-12 games will be on TV next year
it will be all the shitty basketball we can handle
--Dave
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all of the other pac 12 teams that have or are playing right now are either tied losing or lost
oh, them beavers
thats because the Pac-12 sucks
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
and Wazzu and Arizona are winning
though SC is losing and Colorado already lost
--Dave
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Free throws, we can't hit them
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 8:39 PM PST via mobile reply actions
okay guys its a little off topic, but well worth it: The BCS propopes radical changes
I posted it as a fanshot here: http://www.addictedtoquack.com/2011/11/17/2570410/bcs-proposes-radical-changes
Very interesting stuff,
Among a handful of suggested format changes being considered by Bowl Championship Series members is an informal proposal that would radically change the structure of the BCS and significantly alter the major bowl selection process.
According to sources with direct knowledge of meetings held in San Francisco earlier this week, the suggested change calls for the BCS to sever its direct ties with the so-called BCS bowls — the Allstate Sugar Bowl, Tostitos Fiesta Bowl, Discover Orange Bowl and Rose Bowl Game presented by Vizio — and concentrate solely on arranging a No. 1 vs. No. 2 national championship matchup.
Get it done... Paul.
Cool.
So the title game would keep the same shitty system, and all the biggest bowls would be free to host Big Ten / SEC games every year.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Rather...
But a conference official who also attended the BCS meetings said: “I think the bottom line is that Boise State-Oklahoma, Utah-Alabama, TCU-Wisconsin, Utah-Alabama, that those (bowl) games won’t materialize in the future. I think it would clearly change the bowl lineup and the opportunity for a team like Boise State, or a MWC or C-USA team to play on the big stage.”
Get it done... Paul.
in other words
Our National Championship would most likely be LSU-Houston this year. Blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. However, Oregon would get to play Alabama or Oklahoma in the Rose Bowl which would be pretty bad ass.
Get it done... Paul.
That would be so wrong.
Quick! Everyone scramble to the weakest-ass conference you can!
(Suddenly, the WAC becomes the hot girl on campus)
Or the conferences look for stinkers... My point now stands on better ground
Add UNLV & Hawaii to the Pac-12!
Get it done... Paul.
Just saw your SN
Why am I not surprised there’s a Duck fan with 420 in his name? ;p
meh
This proposal would put us back to the way it was some years ago, with the addition of a championship game using, as omb said, the same crappy system they use today.
What would happen is that the big bowls would scramble for conference tie-ins. So the Rose would be Pac-12-Big 10 again with no possibility of things like TCU.
For what it is worth guys, that was just a suggestion. take a look at this quote
According to those who were involved in the meetings, this was just one of several format ideas discussed by the 11 conference commissioners and Notre Dame athletic director Jack Swarbrick. A pure playoff model was presented, as was the familiar Plus-One model.
Get it done... Paul.
SI's Stuart Mandel's plan seems reasonable enough...
A 4 team ‘playoff’ each season – for instance this year’s version (if the season were over today) Oregon as the 4 seed would play LSU as the 1 seed; OK State as the 2 seed would play ’Bama as the 3 seed. Winner would meet in the title game.
Here it is with specifics (Though I still dream of a 16 team playoff… anything to prolong football season!!!)
by ConfofChamps on Nov 17, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
I hate that Notre Dame has as much say as the entire Pac 12 in these dicussions
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
I don't think that's what that means.
He’s saying that it would probably result in less access for the current non-BCS schools overall. The title game would still be BCS 1 v. 2 just like it is now.
And the BCS wouldn’t have any say over the Rose Bowl, so having ‘Bama or Oklahoma there would only happen if the Rose decided it didn’t want to go Pac-12 v. Big Ten.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Hmmmmm
He’s saying that it would probably result in less access for the current non-BCS schools overall.
Does this mean we can start ignoring a certain field goal-biffing college again?
…No, the one to the east.
It says they're just spitballing. All sorts of ideas thrown out,
the focus was just on this one idea. But the ideas that I’ve seen reported as having the most legs (basically following SEC commish campaigning) are like this one – get rid of the 2 per conference limit, get rid of AQ and BCS control altogether, but keep the title game mech.
It’s basically the SEC and Big Ten saying to the Pac-12, ACC, Big East, and all the current non-AQs “hey, how’d you like to cut your own throats? We’ll even sharpen the knife for you.”
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
I don't think the Big Ten can sharpen any knives for a while
Not after being Tressel’d and Sandusky’d. Big blows to two big programs.
Holy shit Comcast is terrible
So glad they’re not a part of the next Pac 12 media deal
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The Daily Faberian
by Matt Daddy on Nov 17, 2011 8:45 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Now I just hope the Blazers are smart enough once the lockout is over
to get the hell away from Comcast. They are the WORST.
Get it done... Paul.
Comcast's only purpose: prevent me from watching Portland games.
infuriating.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Nov 17, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
Dude just banked a 3
ummm ok
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20 and 19
One is number of turnovers. The other is free throws made out of 37.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 8:47 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I can't even listen to this game
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The Daily Faberian
Nared and Barron are the only players who have been competent
--Dave
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I also wonder
Altman has rotated a lot of guys in….I wonder if its too many and that’s part of why they’re having trouble establishing rhythm
--Dave
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He might still be unsure of combinations, rotations, etc. what he has.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 8:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
ej too, he’s just not getting touches
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 8:55 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Bravo! Bravo!
Jonathan fucking Loyd!
--Dave
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Hey look!
We DO know how to…never mind Jabari.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Nov 17, 2011 9:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Score?
And I love the end of the thread’s web address.
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weird
65-60 Oregon 4:18 left
--Dave
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I'm late, who's winning?
I opened Google Plus and it said "Write a note." So I wrote: Eb. Nothing happened.
we are
up five with two minutes left
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
This end of game defense has been good, I like what I see
Now if Altman is really shuffling the lineup nightly, Tyrone Nared deserves a chance to START.
Get it done... Paul.
Look at Tyrone!!!
I opened Google Plus and it said "Write a note." So I wrote: Eb. Nothing happened.
Wow, Jabari Brown is a big kid. Needs to work on those FTs.
I opened Google Plus and it said "Write a note." So I wrote: Eb. Nothing happened.
good guys win
damn sure wasn’t easy though
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Hooray for winning.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
If anyone wants to continue to discuss the BCS news:
http://www.addictedtoquack.com/2011/11/17/2570410/bcs-proposes-radical-changes
I’m way too bored right now, time to pop in NCAA 12 & beat USC’s ass.
Get it done... Paul.
I'm glad that even with the divisional split
You guys are still around to give the Trojans their annual Team From Oregon Ass-Kicking™
Haven't won in the state of Oregon since 2005.
And that win doesn’t even exist anymore.
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Quick thoughts before playing Root Beer pong (I swear it's root beer, it's a Hillel event)
Jabari Brown is having trouble adjusting both to the speed+size of the college game, but also being a secondary cog on a team (for now).
Bruce Barron is this year’s defensive stopper; he’s quick enough to lock down a point guard and strong enough to do so to a 3. Even if he does funny shit with his hands.
We’re 4-0 in games that Chip Kelly has stayed for the 2nd half.
There is no goddamn reason that a team with Tyrone Nared, Jeremy Jacob, Olu Ashalou, Tony Woods, Carlos Emory and EJ Singler should be giving up so many second chance opportunities.
There is no reason that a college basketball team should be this atrocious from the FT line (unless you’re Memphis. Too soon Calipari?).
There is no reason that we should have more turnovers (20) than made FTs (19) with 5 minutes to go in the game.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Sorry you ran out of beer...
But that B-ball game would do it to just about anyone…
by ConfofChamps on Nov 17, 2011 10:22 PM PST up reply actions
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