POSTGAME THREAD: USC 38, OREGON 35
by Takimoto on Nov 19, 2011 8:39 PM PST
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PrintIt shouldn't have come down to that kick.
Was it a kick Maldonado should have made? Maybe. But it shouldn't have come down to that kick.
There were multiple drive killing drops. There was some terrible offensive line play. There was USC gaining seven yards on the ground on virtually every first down. There was Marqise Lee, who put up an absolutely outstanding performance for a freshman. There was Matt Barkley, who played up to his talent and gave fuel to the people who think he is deserving of a first-round pick in next year's NFL draft.
Oregon dug themselves a hole that they just couldn't get out of. The fact that, after being down 24 points in the second half, they had a chance to send the game to overtime, speaks to the resolve and demeanor of the team. But it shouldn't have come down to that kick.
National championship dreams are gone, but there is still a goal to be reached. Win next week over the Beavers, and the Ducks will host the Pac-12 Championship Game. Win that, and it is on to Oregon's second Rose Bowl in three years, and our third consecutive BCS bowl. There is still a goal to be reached, and it is a major one.
It shouldn't have come down to that kick. But it did, and the kick was wide. For the first time in Autzen Stadium, the day was not won. But tomorrow, the Ducks still control their own destiny in the Pac-12. And it will be Civil War week. Congratulations Trojans, you were the better team. We'll see you at the Coliseum next year. Go Ducks.
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To question Chip's clock management late
Is to ask him to be something he is not, a conservative head coach.
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The problem is
He did the conservative thing. Playing for the tie.
by Jonathan Wright on Nov 19, 2011 8:42 PM PST up reply actions
On the same drive we're questioning his clock skils
You can’t have it both ways. Either he’s aggressive and playing for the win or he’s conservative and playing for the tie. Regardless, he didn’t do good clock management. You can be a good clock manager and be aggressive. What he did was stupid, which is neither aggressive or conservative.
Don't buy it.
You’re assuming a timeout means a better chance of scoring. In fact, keeping the offense in rhythm has been shown time and time again to create a better chance of scoring.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly
Crushing other teams with the rapid play after play is how we win. And it worked great on that drive too until the end.
If a back had gotten free into the endzone this discussion would be moot.
And that’s what the offense is built for: To put speed in space. 6 times in 3 years it hasn’t worked. Yup, CK is teh stoopidz.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
Lots of things would make this moot
I’m not saying taht Chip Kelly is stupid. I am saying that today he got outcoached, and I am saying that his clock management on the last drive was bad. When you have one timeout left and you’re forced to kick because you’re out of time – that’s a Bad Thing.
I think Kelly is a very good coach, still, and I’m proud that he’s the Duck coach. But tonight was the first time since the Boise game where I felt that he was unprepared and that he made bad decisions. That’s still a good record, but it’s still disappointing to me.
I disagree.
I think the idea of “buying time for more plays” when keeping the offense in rhythm buys time for more plays is faulty logic. I’d rather keep the offense in rhythm and NOT let the defense regroup and sort things out.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:18 PM PST up reply actions
But we did anyway
Your logic assumes that we were getting to the ball and snapping in 10 seconds each time – but we weren’t. Every incomplete we switched personnel and took our time to get up to the ball. When we needed to stop the clock we threw it out of bounds expressly to stop the clock; there was no way to catch that.
How is throwing out of bounds instead of taking a time out and waiting as long if not longer as a timeout being up-tempo? that doesn’t make any sense.
Also: if USC was truly hurting for tempo they could have taken their timeout. They felt it was more valuable to keep the clock running – and they were right.
That was one play.
We got 3 straight first downs, stopping the clock every time. Would you have called a TO at that point?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, let's go another route
Let’s assume you’re right and that the uptempo attack was so successful because we weren’t taking time outs. And let’s assume that was Kelly’s plan all along.
Why not take the time outs during USC’s drive, then? Clearly more time would have been valuable for the Ducks regardless, right? So if you know you’re going to take a leisurely run down there (we had 2:54 left after all, so it was a fairly slow 2-minute driil) and you won’t want to call timeouts when you have the ball, why not do it with USC?
So even there your logic fails.
Also, on Arizona's 3-minute drill
We also took timeouts then. we took a timeout during the Arizona final drive and a timeout with 30 seconds remaining at the AZ 23 during our drive.
So clearly even Chip Kelly disagrees with you.
That's absurd.
“So clearly even Chip Kelly disagrees with you.” You understand how ridiculous that statement is, don’t you?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
Not really
You’re saying that you can’t take time outs in the Kelly offense. Clearly you can in a very similar situation and it still ends up being ok.
You’re saying that we don’t do it. We did in the only other situation like this that we’ve been in – and that actually led to a TD.
You’re saying that we did the right thing with our timeouts; Kelly used a TO in the Arizona game during Arizona’s drive and during Oregon’s.
So basically there’s a couple interpretations. One is that using TOs is a malleable concept and can be done while maintaining uptempo. Another is that Kelly in 2009 is worse than Kelly in 2011. Another is that Kelly made a mistake now and didn’t back then, which is backed up somewhat by the actual results.
What do you think?
You're implying that each game's variables are the same.
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I'm implying that the uptempo argument is silly
And that the notion that you must be happy with Kelly’s clock management because this is what you get.
Which is clearly untrue, as witnessed by the Arizona game.
But yes, the games are very similar. Not perfect, but similar. Arizona was driving down the field and turned it over with 3 minutes left. We did not have a lot of offensive luck most of the game but were going uptempo and doing well. We got the ball down to their side with 30 seconds left at the 25.
The main difference that I see was that we needed to score a TD in the Arizona case and didn’t here. but realistically, that means it should have been easier for this drive, not harder.
The fact we had to have the 6 @ Arizona changes things completely.
You don’t see that?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
Not completely, no
The main difference is that in this game instead of having shots in the end zone we had to save at least one play for the field goal, and presumably one timeout. That changes the playcalling at the very end but doesn’t change things like clock management or using timeouts. It just gives us more options.
And honestly, relying on a 50% kicker to kick close to his longest range in order to tie the game was not a good choice either. If we’re going to go for a kick you have to take a couple shots downfieeld first or at least get some more yards; that quick pass to Tuinei at the end was insanely stupid, especially since we spent the next play just moving back to the middle and wasting more time.
We had a very makeable shot at a FG.
I’m done with this. It’s clear there’s no middle ground.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
Very makeable for a better kicker.
Maldonado’s weak leg makes that a hard kick.
by netminder82 on Nov 19, 2011 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
Maldo is perfect under 40 yards for the season.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
And 2/5 40-49
Edge of range. I think that is flirting with a miss every time you kick from that range.
by netminder82 on Nov 19, 2011 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
Impossible to say.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:55 PM PST up reply actions
The deeper the kick
The harder it is to make. The closer you get to a kicker’s end range, the harder he must kick it and the less accurate he is going to be.
I think that is pretty simple.
by netminder82 on Nov 19, 2011 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
Makeable for who?
For maldonado that’s at the very edge of his range and he’s missed before.
And again, this assumes that going for the tie and going to OT is a good thing. Do you honestly think that Oregon at that point was going to outplay USC in overtime, despite showing no sign all night that we could reliably stop them in the red zone? I don’t. the only thing we could hope for was a freak turnover like they did in Stanford.
I guess for me I’d rather go down swinging with the offense that is so awesome instead of hope for the best in overtime. Play for the win. Especially with Maldonado and a 35-40 yard kick.
Perfect under 40 yards for the season.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
Err, until tonight.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:52 PM PST up reply actions
How does that address how ridiculous your statement was?
Every game is different, that’s indisputable.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:26 PM PST up reply actions
How does it change the fact that you're wrong?
We went uptempo against Arizona and used timeouts. It didn’t kill us. we also used them during their drive. It also didn’t kill us.
So again, I ask – do you think the clock was managed perfectly on this drive? Do you think that we could have used that final timeout that we ended up losing with at some point to get more time? And do you think that we could have done more? I do. If you don’t I guess that’s okay, but don’t use arguments like “Kelly doesn’t use timeouts when doing 2-minute drills” and “aggressive coaches don’t use timeouts”.. Both are patently and easily verified as untrue.
We had no choice but to go for the 6 at Arizona.
That changes the dynamic completely.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:30 PM PST up reply actions
Okay...
So you’re saying that because we needed more time we had to take a timeout.
But in this case, we would rather bet on a 50% career kicker instead of having a couple extra plays and bet on overtime despite having no success stopping USC.
You’re right, it is a different dynamic. But I do not see a single case where you would ever want less time on the clock and fewer plays to drive unless you’re playing for the tie only. If you’re wanting to win, you go for the TD in both cases, no? The only difference is that in the Arizona game you don’t save time for the Fg no matter what. That’s really it.
This is what I'm saying:
We had driven the field efficiently in the 4th to bring us within 3 points. The idea was that you don’t change anything and run the offense, especially given that SC clearly was wearing down. We had the choice of playing for EITHER the win OR the tie. So we run the offense as we had been and see what we get.
Remember, there was no indication at that point that SC had enough left to stop us. So we go and see if we can get the 6. The point where a TO would have really helped much had essentially passed by the time we stalled. But BEFORE that point, given the efficiency of the offense in the fourth quarter and the state of the SC defense, what is the benefit of giving SC the ability to situationally sub players and give them a chance to regroup? It’s a high-stakes game, sure, but it’s a high-risk, high reward offense.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:41 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, that's fine
But running things as we were was taking more than 3 minutes a drive. If that’s the case, and you know you’re not going to change anything, you should take the timeouts during the USC drive.
Like I said, I’m fine conceding the point that our uptempo power was awesome, even though there were several times that we subbed players and allowed them to sub. Even though if they were having problems with our tempo they could take timeouts of their own to stop us and chose not to.
But why not take the timeouts during their drive, then? Either way it’s bad clock management on Kelly’s part.
They did call a TO.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, they did
You know what happened after they called a timeout?
9 yard run by Kenjon. So much for that helping them.
So a TO didn't help them but certainly would have helped us?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
Come on, BGWM.
No, a timeout did not help them stop our tempo. It did not help them make a good defensive play.
A timeout WOULD help us, ya know, actually save time. And get more plays. Since a timeout doesn’t help them stop our tempo but gives us more chances for more yards and potentially a score, I think it’s pretty clear that it would be A Good Thing.
I understand your thinking.
I don’t think you’re even trying to understand why Chip did what he did before charging him with “terrible clock management.”
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:59 PM PST up reply actions
Well you've already addmitted otherwise
So I guess we’re in the same boat, no?
The uptempo argument makes some sense, I admit – but I still don’t get why we wouldn’t use them when USC had the ball. Or why with three timeouts we wouldn’t use one to stop the clock and call a play, especially after we had already seen that when we do have a timeout we can get great yardage out of it.
I get, kinda sorta, why Chip did what he did – but the end drive was a mess towards the end of the field and a lot of that was a requirement because we were out of time. Time that we absolutely could have had. So my understanding of his motives ultimately doesn’t matter, because in this case he was wrong.
He MIGHT be wrong.
Not knowing what would have happened had he called a timeout, we’ll never know.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Go back and watch the entire series. Tell me at what time you would have used that last time out, given the situation.
I’ll wait.
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I would have used one
Instead of throwing the ball out of bounds to stop the clock with 20 seconds left.
That’s the last timeout. And that gives Oregon at least one more play to run.
Teams don't throw the ball out of bounds to stop the clock.
I’m sorry, but if we needed to stop the clock, we would have called a timeout. No team would ever throw the ball out of bounds just to stop the clock.
Had LT been faster, or had blockers, we probably would have continued rolling on that last drive, but that played killed the momentum.
He didn't throw it out "to stop the clock" by design.
The threw it out to stop the clock because what he was looking for wasn’t there.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:18 PM PST up reply actions
Not true
Kelly did his ‘TO throw over head’ signal and the next play was a fast read right to the sidelines out of bounds.
That’s not a coincidence.
A reminder to get rid of it quickly if the read wasn't there.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:27 PM PST up reply actions
I think I'm going to trust the announcers over your opinion on this
Sorry, but I don’t see that as being set in stone. Was there an interview there?
And here’s another point – if we take a timeout we can make a multiple read. The reason DT was ‘forced’ to throw it away after his first read, if you believe that, was to stop the clock.
And?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:42 PM PST up reply actions
And that means a better playcall?
Because we’ve been successful when making multiple reads with DT. Because relying on one play to be open and nothing else makes us static and prone to disruption.
Because at the end of the day, it didn’t work.
Saying Chip got out coached is silly
I actually agree with you that Chip needed to use timeouts. He really needed to use them on the defensive side of the ball when the clock was working down to 3 minutes because SC was working the play down 3-5 seconds every time. Calling a timeout or even 2 before SC fumbled would have given Oregon another minute on the clock.
On offense we moved so quickly that if he’d called a timeout there it would have saved only a couple of seconds and I agree with BGWM that it could have thrown off our rhythm.
But saying that had anything to do with Lane Kiffin is just dumb.
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You're making assumptions.
All sorts of things can happen with each successive play, gaining yards being one of them.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:28 PM PST up reply actions
It's a fair assumption to make
More plays means more chances. That’s not a particularly outlandish assumption. We kicked it on 3rd down with 1 timeout left; that leaves at least 1 more play we could have run that, if we had time for it, would still have allowed the field goal.
I don’t see why this is such a stubborn argument for you. Are you really suggesting that the last 3 minute drive was a well-executed drill? That that was the best we could possibly do?
Until the drive finally stalled, it was very efficient.
I understand what you’re saying, but I disagree that it was “mismanaged.” That you don’t agree with how it was handled doesn’t make it incorrect. I he had called a damn TO and the result was the same, what’s the difference?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:44 PM PST up reply actions
You can't use that logic.
It is a little unfair to say “if the result was the same” because he is arguing that it would have improved their odds of success.
Of course you can say it didn’t matter if the result is the same!
by netminder82 on Nov 19, 2011 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
The idea of a TO improving our odds of success is the issue.
Does it? Empirically?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:49 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody knows.
But to simply toss the idea aside seems a little silly. Personally? I think it would have because our offense looked rushed at that point in the drive. We bled over into the “panic attack” offense that I sometimes think occurs when we actually go a little too fast.
That wasted throw by DT is a good example, as is the LT pass. I think it looked like we hurried to the point of detriment, leading to less time, less downs, and less of a chance for Maldonado.
by netminder82 on Nov 19, 2011 11:51 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not tossing it aside.
I’m saying I understand why CK did it. I believe the charge of “horrible clock management” is off-base.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:53 PM PST up reply actions
I gotcha.
Horrible is not calling timeouts as the clock literally expires, or not being aware of the down and distance situation. That was not “horrible” by any means.
I just didn’t like it.
by netminder82 on Nov 19, 2011 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
And that's fine.
I have little patience for people who toss out such charges as fact without even trying to understand the thinking behind it.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:56 PM PST up reply actions
And why did CK do it?
Why didn’t CK take timeouts during the USC drive?
again, let’s assume that you’re right and we could not under any circumstances risk them catching their breath (even though we had good success after they took a timeout). And let’s assume Kelly knows this and isn’t just reacting. So why not take a timeout during the USC drive to give the offense more time?
Ask him.
He was watching the clock. He knew how much time there was. One factor is not giving the opponent too much time of their own to play with.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
I think that's a really silly argument
Since Kelly is very good at bleeding the clock if need be.
Look at it this way: let’s say that we have 4 minutes instead of 3. We get down to the 20 with 80 seconds left and 1 timeout. We can realistically run 3 plays to try aand get a first down and run as much time as we really want to. If we decide to run the clock down at that point we can. We have that option. Or we can push it harder and try to score.
It gives us more options. And I do not understand what world that would be worse.
But yes, if your argument against me saying CK’s choices were bad is ‘ask him’ and you’re also deriding me for not understanding his choices, I think you’re done – because you don’t understand them either.
Now we're getting into cloud cuckoo land.
So it’s gone from saving time to bleeding the clock just like that? Yes, he bleeds the clock with a lead and against teams who need time to score. UW and Stanford are teams who need time to grind out points, so with a 2 or 3 score lead milking the clock and taking that away from them makes since. Cal’s offense last year needed time and a lot of luck to score, so grinding out a long drive and not bothering to actually score was the right call.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
"sense"
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
What?
I’m saying that if you have an extra minute and you NEED to bleed the clock you can.
If you don’t have an extra minute you don’t have the option. period. It’s as simple as that.
I’m not saying that you kneel down. I’m saying that for a team like the Ducks it’s not hard to kill a minute of clock time if they want to.
But if you don’t have the time to kill, you don’t have the option.
so no, the argument that we didn’t want to leave Barkley any time doesn’t make sense. We could have easily not let him have any time no matter how it ends up.
How does it not make sense?
Again, we’re talking about tempo.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
Because you can be uptempo and bleed time
We do it all the time with the hurry to the line and then make reads. We do that to force no subs while they sit there and cramp up. They don’t get to rest; they’ve got to be on alert.
And it’s not that hard to get a minute off the clock if you’re just running plays at even a high tempo.
Heh, another thing I checked – we ran a 14 play drive that ended in no points. Ouch.
Ack.
If the offense is having success with a particular rhythm, you don’t disrupt that rhythm especially when playing from behind. That’s the entire point of this discussion. We weren’t playing at “blur” speed but we were playing at a nice, quick pace and it was working.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
14 plays, 66 yards isn't 'working' great
And 9 of those yards came after a timeout.
But again, I ask – why not take the timeouts during USC’s drive?We know that even at that rate, we’re still goign to take 3.5 to 4 minutes to score if things go well. Why not give yourself some room for error. And if you decide that you can’t do it for some reason or you think that you want to play for the tie – like we did – instead of running the last two plays for no gain or a loss run them for 45 seconsd and no gain or a loss.
This really isn’t hard.
Why not?
Ask Chip, fer chrissakes. It goes without saying that Chip Kelly is orders of magnitude more qualified to make such decisions than either you or I, so you should ask him. It’s quite obviously a LOT harder than you seem to think.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:19 AM PST up reply actions
Okay
So your argument is that I don’t understand why he did it.
But you don’t understand either.
Got it. Shouldn’t you be mad at yourself for not understanding why Chip did it then? At least I’m asking questions; you seem to be thinking that as long as Chip did it, it’s not a crime.
Simply put, Maldonado isn't very good.
I think it is very reasonable to think that putting more time on the clock leads to more yards, which in turn leads to a higher percentage kick.
by netminder82 on Nov 19, 2011 11:46 PM PST up reply actions
What netminder82 said
Also, it’s a simple rule: another play is another chance at a score.
This isn’t rocket science.
Furthermore Kelly’s done what I’ve suggested in the past – take timeouts during their drrive and during his. So it’s not completely out of the realm of his thought pattern either.
All I know is this, BGWM: we rushed at the very end. We wasted 8 seconds throwing for a 5 yard loss after another 8 seconds wasted on a throw out of bounds. Both those plays could have been done differently if we call a timeout. We did not take one single shot in the end zone during that drive – probably because of fear of it taking too long. But that ‘taking too long’ was a problem of our making.
I agree. but I'm proud of the the team. What a come back!!
Chip is da man, but why did they stop running the ball? Barner was smokin it (all) and they had plenty of time. grrrrrrr. Rosebowl awaits if they turn it around.
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by Chewbacca5000 on Nov 19, 2011 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
Playing chicken with the clock.
Yards, time left, probability of a score. Moved right along, D stiffened a little, a couple bad plays, time to go for the 3.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Ya, he didn't "play for the tie", just gambled that tempo would get us a TD and got stopped at the end.
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by Bill Musgrave on Nov 19, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Exactly.
People need to stop applying traditional football concepts to Chip. And they have to go all in: You can’t love Big Balls Chip when it works and dog him when it doesn’t.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Traditional is fine
We wasted 20 seconds on not taking a timeout. We wasted another 10 on another nontimeout. We had one timeout left at the end of the game and spent a second simply getting into position to kick the field goal. Hell, we had 8 seconds and 2 timeouts and ran a stupid ‘get to the middle’ play.
Nontraditional gamesmanship is fine and all, but this was inefficient. This was poor clock management. this isn’t the first time he’s done this sort of thing but it was the most egregious.
It’s not what cost us the game. But it’s the thing I think I’m most upset about after how hard everyone played to get us there.
I disagree. Completely.
I hear Tressel is available.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Actually he's not
He can’t coach in college for a while.
And you can disagree all you like, but realistically were you happy with the result? With having over 2 minutes and 3 timeouts we only went 60 yards despite going 80 prior to this in less time. Do you think the calls were good? Do you think throwing an out of bounds pass to stop the clock when we could have simply taken a timeout was good?
Sorry, don’t buy it. There were plenty of times where we substituted, spent 30+ seconds on playcall and took our time. We wasted 20 seconds on a play like that. Tempo is great – but when you need the time the time is better.
I don't by your base assumption that a TO = TD.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
that's not the assumption
I assume that more time means more time to run plays.
and more plays means more chances of scoring.
It’s that simple.
For most teams, yes.
Buying time for desperate shots into the endzone is not what this offense is built for.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
Then we were going to lose no matter what
Because we took zero shots in the end zone. Which means we were just playing for the tie.
What shots into the end zone?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
If we went 80 in less time
We must have used like six timeouts.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:07 PM PST up reply actions
Are you seriously questioning Chip's clock management skills?
This makes no sense.
Why?
Think about it – when has Chip’s fast clock management skills been in question?
He’s been able to kill clocks well several times. But there’s been all of one game where he’s had to come back and win – Arizona – and he had much more time in that one.
This was a failure. I don’t see how you can see it any other way.
Rose colored glasses
Thy make everything look lovely
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
No
Some plays didn’t work out, the drive stalled out, it happens. I don’t see how a timeout makes a big difference for us.
We have more plays
It’s as simple as that.
More plays to have a chance for things to work out. More opportunities to do things like run the ball or do playaction instead of going right for the pass.
Yeah, I don't think he played for the tie at all
The checkdown to Tuinei was a bad play and that really hurt us. Then the pass out of bounds, though there really wasn’t anything there.
It just didn’t work out
Yup, that was a bad choice by Daron, but maybe he didn't have anything else.
Euler's #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 19, 2011 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he just needed to throw it away there
But he played a great 4th quarter and small mistakes like that happen.
You go down 24, you have to perfect. We were close, but not quite.
Thats the thing that bothered my most about that final drive.
That pass to LT pushed us back and waisted time. Kinda rather just see him throw it over his head out of bounds. Save us a couple seconds and the couple yards we lost
Yes
This was the only thing that bothered me about the final drive. LT is NOT the player you want to throw a screen to. It pushed us back and wasted some clock. I would have liked to see Huff or DAT out there. Didn’t like that call. But whatever; it’s too bad it had to come down to a kick.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Hurt us much more than any "waaaaahhhhhh timeouts waaaaaah" claptrap.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
Totally agree
Tempo is why Kenjon was gashing them for 10 yards a pop at the end there.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
It hurts...but we will snap out of it, we slacked to much..
FUCK USC! GO DUCKS!
by Alice Andersson on Nov 19, 2011 8:41 PM PST reply actions
Amen to that
It should never have come down to that kick.
We lost this game not when we missed that kick but when we allowed ourselves to go down 24.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
If we could have come out of halftime and scored on that possession, this game would have ended
differently.
It just took too fucking long to get it together.
by ConfofChamps on Nov 19, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Wow...
Wow WTF at least there’s the rose bowl bit damn we blew it tonight…..
by Xpanzer88X on Nov 19, 2011 8:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Blew what, exactly?
An extremely thin shot at playing LSU IN New Orleans for the title?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
Not that slim
With Clemson losing, Oklahoma possibly losing and Alabama looking weak it was a very good shot that if we took care of business we’d be #2.
Ultimately we squandered the shot regardless.
When you have two redzone turnovers it’s hard to win
by The Legend on Nov 19, 2011 8:43 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
The LMJ fumble to end the first half was a killer.
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One needle out of many that combined to slowly bleed us to death.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
I love this team for exactly what happened tonight.
Is there any other team in the nation that has the swagger to come back like that against a quality opponent? Probably not. Proud to be part of Quack Attack Nation and I pre-emptively feel bad for Oregon State, which is going to take the 60-point whipping as we take out our vengeance.
GO DUCKS.
Can someone please tell me
where Terence Mitchell and Anthony Gildon are? are they hurt?
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
Mitchell played tonight, and played well.
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Didn't see him
they were picking on Hall and one other all night, anyone know who that was?
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
It's Hill. Troy Hill.
And the other big play was over Ifo Ekpre-Olomu, and that was just a great pass and catch.
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They picked on Ifo a bit
But Hill was the guy getting burned tonight, rough game.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Thats what I thought
The one where it was between Ifo and Boyett was just a sunday pass as they say.
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
It was a crap level play by Boyett
I have absolutely no idea what he was doing on that play. He was in position over the top, then he came down and got underneath Lee after the ball had been thrown, instead of playing to where the ball and Lee were going and got himself completely out of position. He was over the top, in perfect position to stop that corner route, then ran himself right out of the play. Absolutely garbage terrible play by Boyett.
Nope
As the FS in deep coverage, you are the deepest player on the field. Period. If you make a move to where you’re not in that position, you MUST come up with the ball. Period. By the end of that play, Boyett was so out of position that he was 5-10 yards behind the play and had stopped running.
When you’re the FS, you can see where the receivers are and where the ball is going. There was no reason he should have cut inside of Lee instead of running deep to where the ball and Lee where going.
From what i've heard Gildon was ineligible due to grade issues
Once again Gildon and Harris let the team down. I have not doubt we win this game with them playing
Christ.
On full season plus 10 games without academic eligibility issues and AG does this NOW?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
after we built that nice building for them to study in ?
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
by benzduck on Nov 19, 2011 11:59 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don't buy it
its still middle of the term
--Dave
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by David Piper on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
Well, what is the rule?
Does it only rely on end of term grades? If not, then it makes sense.
by netminder82 on Nov 20, 2011 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
It's whatever the fuck Chip Kelly decides.
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I'm sure there are clear and reasonable standards.
And Gildon broke them. I guess this is par for the course with DBs this year.
by netminder82 on Nov 20, 2011 12:10 AM PST up reply actions
CK gets all missed classes by all players reported.
Might be the issue.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck that.
Cliff Harris hasn’t been a part of our team all season. And Gildon hasn’t played markedly better than Mitchell, Hill, or Ifo. Fuck that.
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But does it make a difference in tonight's game? No.
Barkley made some throws tonight that no corner breaks up. Let’s give credit where credit is due, USC won this football game.
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Troy Hill had no idea what the hell was going on most of the night.....
That first long TD should have been broken up if the DB had any awareness at all
So it goes.
We came into this season expecting Mitch and Hill to rotate in here and there and learn the game. All things considered, they have both done quite well AND were eventually going to be exposed as inexperienced by somebody. Stanford didn’t have the horses to do so, ’SC did.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
This would explain a lot,
But a RS Senior having grade issues? That is inexcusable (if it is actually the case).
Troy “First Down” Hill got beat up last night (not that I am surprised, he had a tough task to say the least).
I'm super thanks for asking! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPNna_f4P4Y
It was nice to have some adrenaline for a change.
I’d rather this happen now then get our asses kicked by LSU again. We earned this cushion by not losing to a crappy team.
Now kill two crappy opponents with the pressure off, and go win a Rose Bowl.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I don't think we'd get our asses kicked by LSU.
It’s moot at this point though. Rose Bowl baby, we can do it.
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Why not?
What makes you think that if we can lose to USC at home we wouldn’t get crushed by LSU again?
our OLine play was terrible for the first three quarters
we can make a run at the Natty next year when some of our linemen and our corners have more time to mature.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
This game, the first three quarters at least, is not who we are as a football team.
We play LSU like we played Stanford, we win by 17 points.
We play LSU like we played tonight, it’s uglier than when we played them in September.
Who we are as a team is closer to how we played against Stanford than USC.
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Maybe
Ultimately we are who we play as. Yes, if we play a perfect game without big mistakes and dominate everywhere we win.
We’ve done that once this year.
If we come out and have a lot of turnovers, make bad playcalls and have poor special teams (FG miss and blocked punt) we lose. We’ve done this now twice this year.
So both those teams are outliers.
The team we are is a team who uses the first half to size up the opponent and find weaknesses, then uses the second half to exploit them. I don’t know if that team beats LSU, but it puts a damn good game together.
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Again, I don't see why this follows
We’ve had three tough opponents. Of them one was as you describe, kind of (we led Stanford start to finish). Another we played close in the first half and then failed big. A third is us going down early and not quite coming back.
All of our other games we dominated. Period.
I’d like to think that we’re that team you describe, but this was a pretty big gutshot.
We did what I described, or just flat out crushed teams, in every game but the two we lost.
I think we’re more like that team than the turnover-prone team against LSU or the team we saw tonight.
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Ummm.....
LSU killed Oregon… KILLED them, 40-20, with their starting QB on suspension.
(yeah, dont count garbage time bogus TDs).
Oregon just lost at home to USC.
LSU has gotten better and better throughout the season and has the confidence of beating everyone.
You seriously think Oregon would have a snowball’s chance against LSU?
Yes.
I think the LSU-Oregon game was predicated upon bad turnover timing. The play of both teams was pretty close to even.
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Why not?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Most teams have a range they play in - best to worst
You’ve seen us at our two worst games (LSU, Frist 3 quarters of this game). Did you ask yourself if Oregon could compete with LSU after the Stanford game?
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 19, 2011 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Oregon has no defense.
LSU’s defense is plenty good to slow down and stop Oregon repeatedly.
How do they possibly win?
There’s a reason LSU is 10-0 and Oregon is 8-2. Fantasy land if you think Oregon wouldn’t get demolished by LSU.
Very well said.
I am now convinced fully that LSU would demolish Oregon.
Wow, you have me convinced.
Hell, I think we should just give up football altogether, and concede all current and future national championships to the SEC as birthright.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
I think it's okay to phrase it as far as 'this year'
I think that LSU has Oregon outclassed this year, plain and simple. Alabama too. Doesn’t mean that we couldn’t win a game, but it would take them to be unlucky and us to be lucky.
Don’t have to go all sarcastic dickhole to respond to that. Do you think we’re in a class with LSU after the way we played tonight vs. how LSU’s played against top competition?
he might have confused your first statement as a joke
cuz oregon did well against Stanford which has a good offense. and then might not have taken the rest of your post seriously.
I didn't make the post
so I’m not sure who you’re talking to.
I do think that LSU has us outclassed, especially after this game; LSU at least hasn’t faltered like we have in games. That’s something fairly important.
I still wanted another shot at ‘em. Before this game I thought we’d have about a 45% shot. Now it’s probably around 30%.
Sarcastic, yes. Dickhole? WTF did that come from?
I don’t want to play LSU again any more than you do.
That comment was aimed the ESS EEE CEE inbred dickitariat and their media whores who insist that the South is the only bastion of what is decent and beautiful and true about football. If we all suck out here in the rest of the country, then fine, just go play with yourselves, I say.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
You know what sort of thing the inbred dickitartiat and their media whores would do? If Oregon had beaten LSU by 13 on the opening weekend, and the Ducks went on blowing out every game except the one where they played the consensus number two team, no one in SEC country would be seriously questioning Bobby Petrino referring to LSU as “possibly the hottest team in the country.”
No, seriously. The way that Duck fans have been this past weekend? That is pretty much exactly the sort of thing people on here always complain about seeing in SEC fans. It’s what fanbases do. Get over it.
"This season of Ole Miss football is a reminder to talk to your family now about what to do if you're in a persistent vegetative state." ~@celebrityhottub
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
It came from you characterizing his post
As nothing but freaking out.
Seriously, he asks how we beat the hottest team in the country the way we’re playing and your response is that we should never play football again?
After watching Oregon lose to USC,
It is clear that no such thing as an upset exists in college football. You’re right.
I'm super thanks for asking! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPNna_f4P4Y
If USC played LSU like they played us tonight
they would eviscerate them.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
by Old Ducker on Nov 19, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It is true
There is empirical proof that a team that losing has a 100% correlation with losing in the future. it’s science. If you lose you can’t ever win again.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
Are you a closet Hoers fan?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
Totally agree
Enough talk about the BCS and the NCG. Did we REALLY want to face LSU in the Sugar Bowl? Let’s kick the crap out of the Beavers and whoever comes out of the South and win a damn Rose Bowl for once!
by IslanderDuck on Nov 19, 2011 8:57 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
Given the choice of going to play for the MNC or not I think most folks would prefer playing for it.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, really
Do I wish we had beaten the crap of USC tonight? YES. Would I have been excited for another shot at the national title? YES. But let’s be realistic, playing what is likely to be LSU in their backyard, after having already lost to them once this year, that’s not that attractive. We need to get to the Rose Bowl, and we need to win the Rose Bowl. That will/would be a huge success of a season.
by IslanderDuck on Nov 19, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
I made a commitment to ignoring the BCS scenario as much as possible.
I really want a Rose Bowl win. Badly.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
I want one too
But I’d rather have a championship. Still, a rose bowl win would be awesome.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
Nice to have options
Let’s not forget (those of us who remember) how it was when we finally made it to the Independence Bowl back in the Dark Ages and it seemed like a miracle.
by IslanderDuck on Nov 19, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Amen
I work with a ton of Huskies, and 8 in a row is extremely satisfying but I am so fucking tired of hearing about not having won since 1917. Because it’s TRUE.
by IslanderDuck on Nov 19, 2011 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Oregon State fans trolling us now
Pathetic.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Where?
That seems Silly. Nobody has any pants on. Everybody has whiskey. Nothing good can come of that.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
If you take twitter seriously
I can not,help you.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 8:47 PM PST up reply actions
They lost to Sacramento State. Who gives a fuck?
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Man, that is too sad to be funny.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
That sucked.
Obviously, losing is a part of sports; what we need to remember is that sticking with your team after a loss is part of BEING A FAN. We are lucky to watch a team that is this exciting, this easy to like and this unique. If you are “done” with Oregon after this game, then good riddance! This team has such a bright future, and if you have trouble sticking with Oregon after this game, then you don’t deserve to be a part of the future of this team. Let’s cheat this team to the Rose Bowl, and to a Rose Bowl victory!
GO DUCKS.
by WeeJa on Nov 19, 2011 8:45 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Too young to have experienced it
But I will NEVER take winning for granted!
by WeeJa on Nov 19, 2011 8:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I was in Twitter jail the entire 4th quarter
It was amusing and annoying.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
55 seconds left
First and goal from the less than ten. Oklahoma down by 7.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 8:47 PM PST reply actions
I TRIED TO SERVE TOUCHDOWN DRINKS BUT THERE JUST WASN'T ENOUGH TIME TO PASS THEM OUT.
Euler's #1 fan
YOU DID EVERYTHING YOU COULD WITH THAT FUMBLE DRINK
I FORGIVE YOU
12-0 (9-0)
Oregon -- Oregon, for heaven's sakes -- is playing for the national championship. --Ivan Maisel
When I served it to you...
I started yelling like a madman and scared the crap out of my wife (who just avoids football) and dogs, I’m not sure how I didn’t spill your drink.
Really it’s their fault though, they should know by now that I am liable to be a crazed maniac during foosball games, particularly of the duck comeback variety. How do you get scared the 800th time somebody yells like a maniac and runs around the house? Old news by this point.
Euler's #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 20, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Hell of a game
SC outpeformed and outplayed us all game long. Sucks that we had a legit shot of a TD if we had time for a couple more plays.
Having said that, I Love My Ducks.
"Tonight they get a ring. For the rest of their lives, if somebody asks them about that ring, they will tell them the story of 2010."-Kruk
I love this team!!! What a come back!! Just a bit short(twss) but a great effort! Bring on the swamp rats!!
Grrrrrrrrrwwwaaaaawwaaaaaaaa Ducks!
by Chewbacca5000 on Nov 19, 2011 8:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
We had no gas in the tank to start with after STANFORD
We had two intense road games (wASHINGTON and STANFORD) and we had circled Stanford and given it all our attention and intensity. We were drained and flat emotionally to start with, I think. And tired. We gave up too many turnovers. And we don’t have a strong kicking game. it should never come down to a 37 yard FG anyway.
But in the fourth quarter the Ducks played terrific, terrific football to get back in it. Some of the catches made were insane (David Paulson!). DT had a mixed game. Mostly great, but a few errant throws I’m sure he wants back. Barner was playing lights out and that return by DAT was nothing short of amazing. Wow. Just wow to the team.
If we had a little more time, we’d likely have won. But there it is.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Will I get banned?
If I say USC played kinda well tonight? I mean, realistically, they showed some talent. I wish it wasn’t true, but it is.
Luv a Duck
Will I get banned?
If I ask if we can bring Lebron to the Civil War?
Bring him.
I don’t give a fuck.
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Easier to ask forgiveness than permission
In both cases
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
No, they are still a very potent team. Barkely is a tool but a great qb. Doh!
Grrrrrrrrrwwwaaaaawwaaaaaaaa Ducks!
by Chewbacca5000 on Nov 19, 2011 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
much as I hate giving props to the enemy
not just Barkely, but the entire team looked good. I wish I could say otherwise, because I fucking hate them
Luv a Duck
I want to rip their arms off, its a wookie thing. But they earned the win. No worries. still a rosebowl to win!
Grrrrrrrrrwwwaaaaawwaaaaaaaa Ducks!
by Chewbacca5000 on Nov 19, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
You know I do! ARRRRRRRRraawwaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Grrrrrrrrrwwwaaaaawwaaaaaaaa Ducks!
by Chewbacca5000 on Nov 19, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Why is Barkley a tool?
I don’t know why that’s the perception of him, and i’m legitimately curious why he comes off that way.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
Couple of things, mostly from what he says on the twitter
he comes off a bit cocky and arrogant. We Ducks and Trojans may compete for “cockiest fans of the Pac” (with Uw being up there), but I’ve rarely heard a player talking smack like that to a national audience. And before almost every one of our games, too.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 1:14 AM PST up reply actions
Fair enough
He definitely talked some trash before the ASU game and it bit him in the ass. Before this game, his quote dropped the context about how good you were but he felt past years were bettter.
Other than that, he’s always struck me as a classy ambassador of the university, especially in light of the sanctions and everything else he’s gone through.
I appreciate your perspective though. Thanks, and great game tonight. Beat the hell out of utah/ucla/asu in the P12CCG.
Fight On! Beat everybody but us!
Point taken
But I don’t want a craven QB either. He’s a good kid and there’s something relaxing about not having to wonder if he’s going to end up on the gossip pages for banging Paris Hilton.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Its a fine line
QB’s have a huge responsibility and that messes with their egos. Some QBs are humble about it but some come across as dicks. Phillip Rivers is a dick for example. Or Jimmy Clausen had his draft stock go down because of how he handled himself. Barkley is treading a line of being a dick but he doesn’t go over it, or to put it another way, his talent makes it easier to take his dick. We will see what happens in the pros.
Barkley opens his pie-hole too often but is the exact opposite of "controversial" other than that.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I actually had a good impression of Barkley until last night
I don’t mind some of the trash talking (he’s mostly just answered journalist’s questions honestly). And I don’t mind him being a goody two shoes (that’s good, actually). I can’t relate to the faith thing, but he wasn’t being a preacher out there. He’s just easy to make fun of, though.
I don’t know how much credence to give this, though — he did seem to be berating a fellow player when they were coming off the field after a miscommunication led to an incompletion. That did surprise me, as I didn’t think he was the type to do that. It definitely contrasted poorly with Andrew Luck giving his poor receiver a pat on the helmet to cheer him up after he screwed up.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Blaming the receiver for the pick was dickish.
Tyler is a senior and flat-out caused that fumble at an extremely critical time. Personally I can’t blame Barkley for giving him an earful. As a contrast, Luck consoled the player who stone-handed the ball into a pick-6 last week.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
It was their "bowl game" and they played a high-risk, high-reward game and held on for the win.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
They certainly have a lot of talent. They have more physical talent then us. Chip says that all the time.
They have more 5* and 4* recruits. It’s a pity they’re also classless, petty and cowardly. I will not forgive that dick move on LMJ by whoever that guy was. I was all set to be nice to them if we lost, but that move changed me 180 degrees.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 19, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
Im not a fan of SC or Oregon so take that into account but...
How can USC be classless? I’m pretty sure it was the Oregon players doing all the “hyped” and “in your face” stuff for most of the game. And while the play on LMJ was a bit Bush league, it was far from classless. The SC player was essentially sitting on top of him. Thats not exactly trying to hurt him or doing anything dirty. And Oregon now recruits the same kind of players USC does so that’s just ignorant.
Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.
by RA37thriller on Nov 19, 2011 11:57 PM PST up reply actions
Years of experience, my friend.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:00 AM PST up reply actions
They're a top 3 program of all time
Their players are always going to carry that sense of entitlement and arrogance.
Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.
by RA37thriller on Nov 20, 2011 12:03 AM PST up reply actions
So why are you questioning GDT?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 AM PST up reply actions
I was referring primarily to an incident which occurred in the first half
when a USC player basically sat on LMJ to prevent him from getting up. I don’t have a recording of the game, so I can’t go back and tell who it was. I don’t remember if he was white or african-american. I really hope that player was black. Because it made for an ugly visual picture. All he needed was a whip in his hand to complete it. Just arrogant and condescending and sleazy. It was worse than any overly aggressive hit or penalty in the course of a game. It was deliberate and unconscionable.
Not too many people were offended by this. And perhaps I’m over-reacting, perhaps it’s just because I’m not white. But that was not a picture I ever want to see again on a college football field. And if you’re white, before you tell me I’m over-reacting, think for a minute. Because you don’t get to decide.
I shouldn’t (and am not) condemning the entire team and the coaches or anyone one else. I am sure the coaches did not specifically ask him to sit on a player. However, no one stopped him, and no one reprimanded him.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
That was extremely bush-league and should have drawn an unsportsmanlike.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
And I can't help contrast that play with Stanford and Andrew Luck
I can’t picture Andrew Luck berating a team-mate like Barkley did (in fact, he went and consoled a guy who was responsible for his pick-six debacle). I can’t imagine Andrew Luck ever deliberately putting his leg over a prone player and sitting on him preventing him from getting up.
Stanford has established a reputation in my eyes and my heart as the classiest set of players in the country. USC has tarnished its reputation severely in my eyes, just when I had enormous sympathy for the currently players for the ban they have to endure through no fault of theirs. I only had a rivalry sports hate for the team before, in the abstract. I never had anything but respect for the players — I’m sorry I can’t say the same anymore.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
It wasn’t a white player. It was a true freshman linebacker – Bailey I think. I’m not going to claim that it was anything other than football players being dicks to one another – I hear rumors that happens. I have no idea if the coaches said anything to him afterwards and neither do you. As for whether his teammates should have done something in real time – perhaps they were just as surprised as everyone else. I’d be more pissed had it been an effort to injure.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
I think the idea that his "teammate" should have done something about it is unrealistic.
Everyone would like to think their own players wouldn’t tolerate that when it happened, by we also all know better.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
That is true (I don't know if he was reprimanded or not afterwards)
And, yes, it was unrealistic to assume anyone else should have hauled him off in case there was a penalty — probably too short an incident and I seriously doubt anyone registered it for the way it looked from outside.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
And for the record, I am glad it was not a white player.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions
It was #18
He was just doing it so that LMJ couldn’t get up quickly and to slow the pace of the game down since it was near the end of the half. The ref should’ve gotten him off of LMJ quicker or thrown a flag as it was bush league and obvious, but it wasn’t that big of a deal so as to be some huge controversy today.
Staying here til my laptop dies
then doing everything possible to forget that this game happened
You shouldn’t sip liquor.
-justincredubil02
no, Jack Daniel is whiskey.
-ChopMaster
"Welcome to the show, Brandon Beachy. I think you’re going to stay a while."
I still love these guys, very proud of our comeback.
We didn’t play well enough early in the game to win, but man we showed heart. I mean to come back against a good team, we showed some serious heart, much more than against LSU. Though I’m disappointed, I’m still proud, this team is tough.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Two point TD attempt
Oklahoma false starts. LOLklahoma.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 8:51 PM PST reply actions
We were down 24 with 3 minutes left in the third quarter.
The fact that we had a chance to tie it at the end of the game is remarkable.
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Paysinger
The only team I feel bad for after this Oregon USC game….is Oregon State………. #GoDucks
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by Scott Harris on Nov 19, 2011 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
You guys are overthinking it
We’ve been expecting to get blown out by 60 for weeks now
here are the beavers to make your lose feel better
because at lest you are not us lol
oh, them beavers
The Beavs are the gift that keeps on giving.
(Zona, Uw, and Wazzu are banned from said charity event) ;D
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 19, 2011 11:13 PM PST up reply actions
At the half, Big Game score is Stanford 14, Cal 13.
If the Bears can manage the win, the Civil War is officially absolutely meaningless.
If not, no biggie. We’ll just have to take out the frustration of today by beating the everloving stuffing out of the Bavers.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
In our house
By Kiffen. From Oregon, but live in Tennessee. In TN, this scenario is like being raped by islamic terrorist dressed as Lane Kiffen, in your living room, in front of your family while listening to NPR and being told that taxes are increasing.
by NathanBedfordQuack on Nov 19, 2011 8:53 PM PST reply actions
…and I just kicked over my whisky bottle. Fuck this night.
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Fake hardwood floors. Not a drop wasted.
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Finally, someone gets me.
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Putting things in perspective
We will probably be in the Rose Bowl. The fuskies lost to a two win team. It’s been a good day.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
yes I know I'm trolling but
you never know you might just get got by the beavers too lol no I kid I kid the duck are going to roll us this year I don’t want to watch it lol
oh, them beavers
MANY OTHER TEAMS
would have packed this game in when they came out of halftime and couldn’t move the ball.
Kelly’s Ducks NEVER gave up (like I did, I’m ashamed to admit – esp. because I know better) .
Criticize Kelly all you want for that last drive/timeouts but remember… this is the OREGON DUCKS.
For anyone old enough to remember, we sucked in the ’70s and ’80s (and before).
But now some of us are disappointed at not getting another Natty shot and instead having to ‘settle’ for the ROSE BOWL. Yet remember how fucking celebratory we were when we got to go finally to the Independence bowl?!??!
I love Oregon’s coaching staff. IMHO there’s none better, top to bottom.
Come back, boys and kick ass from here on out! WIN THE ROSE BOWL AND GET THE MONKEY OFF OUR BACKS AND THEN COME BACK AND WIN IT ALL NEXT SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't like losing... losing when not playing well isn't much consolation.
But USC is a good team right now. It’s not like losing to Iowa St… now that would suck.
(As posted in the 2nd Half Thread. 4th Quarter thread… when did that happen?)
Herbie is explaining that now...
He posted it when Weems got called on the holding penalty
"I love my Ducks (wait 'til you see my O)"
Weems had a bad game. I feel bad for him.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
And LSU
he had a ton of flags in that game, didn’t he?
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 19, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
I just seem to remember the name "Weems" sticking in my head from that game
Maybe he had more of drive-killing penalties, who knows. Something to work on this offseason, though.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
Those leg whip penalties that somehow have never been called again this season.
Definitely there was some bias among the refs in the LSU game.
he's accurate
but he can’t boot it like Beard can. That was on the edge of his range to begin with.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 19, 2011 11:14 PM PST up reply actions
TD Baylor.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 8:57 PM PST reply actions
A hahahaha Baylor
Just scored a TD. Eight seconds left. Bye bye Oklahoma.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 8:57 PM PST reply actions
Bet Oklahoma wishes they hadn't called that timeout....
Whoopsie!
by tripdoubsalldetime on Nov 19, 2011 8:58 PM PST reply actions
I don't mind losing at ALL, not that I like it. I don't mind losing to LSU, or even OHIO STATE
or STANFORD or HELL, EVEN WSU. There are only 2 teams I never ever ever ever want to lose to. One is wASHINGTON and the other is this classless, pettty, thuggish team, who apparently like to sit on people to get time to breathe.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
oh my god, I completely forgot about them! yeah, add them to that list....
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 19, 2011 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
fBSU will be 6th or 7th probably
Its hard to predict how far OK, OK lite and Oregon will fall. Probably #5 with be VT and Furd could be 6th but here is where its almost impossible to rank ’em.
Don't be angry
Enjoy that the ducks are as good as they are and remember its just a game. Plus, lol so many sanctions.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not angry at all
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 19, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
I'm still barfing
The anger hasn’t had a chance to set in.
And down goes Oklahoma.
I guess a win tonight might have given us a shot, but I want that Rose Bowl win SO BAD I almost don’t mind. Almost.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 8:58 PM PST reply actions
So this means:
1. LSU
2. Alabama
3. Arkansas
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Can't even be avoided.
Literally everyone who had any kind of argument kindly stepped out of the way.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
This means:
A turd of a ‘natty’ this year.
by ConfofChamps on Nov 19, 2011 9:00 PM PST up reply actions
let's not be hasty. they have plenty of opportunities to lose too
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 19, 2011 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
Oregon isn't in the rose bowl yet
And it’s no guarantee we’ll win against Michigan State or Wisconsin. Those are both good teams.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 8:59 PM PST reply actions
It's a bird! It's a plane! It's.... Captain Obvious!!!
Sorry, I couldn’t resist.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
As long as I get to be the captain it's all good
Singing moving on up right now.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
Just for that, I promote you to Major Magnifico.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
I love that most everybody on this blog is so dedicated to Oregon
I love this site
by WeeJa on Nov 19, 2011 9:00 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Oklahoma fumbled the kickoff Baylor recovered.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:01 PM PST reply actions
OREGON TO THE NATTY
Two good losses we can do it!
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
No. 9
I will be seeing that number in my nightmares tonight
We're gonna see LSU/Bama rematch anyway
No matter whether we won out or not. I hate losing, but that’s just reality. Arkansas is a pretender against good teams.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Oklahoma might have gone over bama
Best argument, no rematch SoS etc
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not.
I’d rather watch world cup soccer than see that rematch.
Be careful what you ask for
Lifelong soccer fan and I could arrange for you to see any number of games that would have you shrieking in horror.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
God help us
We will never hear the end of the SEC tooting its own horn. Not to mention, that’s a terrible precedent to set. YOU SHOULD HAVE TO WIN YOUR CONFERENCE TO PLAY IN THE NATTY. Period, end of story.
And you should have to win your division to make the playoffs in MLB, but they went and screwed that up too.
"This season of Ole Miss football is a reminder to talk to your family now about what to do if you're in a persistent vegetative state." ~@celebrityhottub
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
Boom
Josh Huff said he grew concerned about his game last night after the Ducks heard the Oklahoma State result and some players lost focus.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Took 3 whole quarters to get their heads into it.
Something like this is gonna happen. Oh well.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
That's a bullshit excuse.
Chip’s gonna yell at him.
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Yeah, they definitely played like it
Although, you’d think hearing that news would intensify the focus, not diminish it
The Ducks definitely did not come out focused that's for sure
Those early WR drops completely changed the pace of the game
Anyone else glad Woods and Lee won't have anyone to throw it to them next year?
That is, if things work out that we meet SC in the P12CG next December.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:03 PM PST reply actions
Weasel will be in it again at 6-6
Just to mess with UCLA fans.
by builds character on Nov 19, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
Won't we play them in LA next year?
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
We will.
So we can exact revenge twice.
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If Tuinei's foot goes out....
We play for the TD :)))))) Got to love the hypotheticals…
I hadn't thought about that, but you're right...
It totally changes the clock mgmt in that final drive…. wow.
Who knows what would have happened.
by ConfofChamps on Nov 19, 2011 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
It was just one of those games...
where even things that seemed to be going right for you were not…
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
LINE PLAY
I says it again. That was the problem tonight for Oregon. USC beat the Ducks with both units.
Herbie is explaining that now...
by encephalopath on Nov 19, 2011 9:07 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I thought our D-line played pretty well
Got tired in the second half, but our secondary fucking sucked. We got destroyed on the outside, and our tackling was terrible.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Sacks? Hurries? Knockdowns?
Herbie is explaining that now...
by encephalopath on Nov 19, 2011 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
Barkley got it out quick
Not much you can do about that.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
And TFLs... I forgot that one
Herbie is explaining that now...
by encephalopath on Nov 19, 2011 10:26 PM PST up reply actions
Our line didn't play that well on either side
Multiple sacks for them, none for us. Very little pressure unless blitzing and even then not a lot. After the first couple drives they were routinely getting 5-6 yards a run.
It wasn’t a good game. They weren’t the reason we lost, but they didn’t help much.
This doesn't jive with the stats
Less than 4 yds per carry for SC, I thought we gave up too much on 1st down runs in the second half, but the D-line wasn’t the problem tonight.
Barkley was outstanding getting the ball out on time, and our coverage wasn’t very good, so we allowed him to do so.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Like I said, after the first few drives
they were able to run at will on us. There were only a couple of easy stops. The rest was 2nd and 4, 2nd and 5.
We stopped them hard core early. It was great. But in the second half it was ugly.
I wouldn't say run at will
The first half we did a decent job. Then we started to miss tackles. The pass just killed us tonight though, Lee and Woods had us baffled. I thought we had poor play from Hill and the safeties, and that was what made us vulnerable. I think with decent coverage, we would have had a few sacks, because we were close on a few occasions.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Giving up too much on 1st down and never hitting the QB
makes for a lot of downhill playing for USC
Herbie is explaining that now...
by encephalopath on Nov 19, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
Yep.
Line play is the #1 thing that sucked tonight. #2 is dropping passes, #3 is the last :50
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I would go
turnovers #1, dropped passes #2, line play (both sides of the ball) #3
I'll be more specific
- LaMichael fumble, #2 fumbled lateral the play after forcing a turnover, #3, Vaughn dropping a pass that was a clear first down and probably a TD
The Vaughn drop was the play that really changed the early course of the game.....
More than any other play in the first quarter, or almost first half. Would have been huge to have converted right there. Instead USC’s defense continued to feel confident about stopping us and they put points on the board while we didn’t.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Nov 19, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
Pointing to one bad play in a half full of them is pointless.
Blown coverages, fumbles, dropped passes, etc, all combined to put this game almost out of reach, and in the end it was out of reach.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Turnovers are what gave us a chance to tie it at the end. Can't blame it on turnovers.
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This is how Oregon State should feel about next week
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7JB68sLGY8
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Well of all the embarassing losses this weekend
I think ours is the least of them
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
Yippur
This thing is true
Herbie is explaining that now...
by encephalopath on Nov 19, 2011 9:08 PM PST up reply actions
Big old bonfire for those
They look cool but I would rather win
by IslanderDuck on Nov 19, 2011 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
Uniforms have nothing to do with the outcome of the game.
They just get us attention and recruits. Not wins.
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Hmmmmm....
Recruits eventually play, and influence the outcome of games as a result, which could either be a win or a loss.
Uniforms have a 50% chance of influencing the outcome of the game.
50%? Are you fucking serious?
Try 5%. At most.
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Yes, but it doesn't change my point.
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The first loss we wore anthrocite.
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by Takimoto on Nov 19, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
First time we wore them was Arizona '08, correct?
Pretty much the exact opposite of this game.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Arizona '08, we did what USC did tonight.
Build a big lead and hold on.
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Yep. Minus the Game-clinching late Blount TD,
this basically happened the exact same way. Only we were on the wrong side this time.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Bottom line
Barkley played insanely well, Lee and Woods were amazing, their D did just enough.
Congrats to USC, they deserved to win.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
So how do you rank USC/UO/Stanford?
They’ve each beaten one another. Stanford has 1 loss overall to the others’ 2, but they also had the worst loss, by twenty-some points to UO at home. Meanwhile, Oregon loses on last second field goal and USC in overtime.
Then USC also has a worse second loss. I’m still thinking UO, then Stanford, then USC.
I’m also thinking the AP poll will actually be Stanford (if they win), USC, UO.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
*Stanford has the worst loss of the beating-each-other circle.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
USC has 2 losses so they are 3rd and we beat Stanford
Seems clear to me.
Is anyone else concerned that other than Cal last year it seems oregon loses almost every close game?
Either they seem to blow teams out, or lose a close game…. wonder why
What are these close games we have lost?
Auburn and this one. And this one wasn’t close til the very end.
I guess i was counting LSU
Just seems like over the past few years its been blow out the other team or lose
The idea that this was a close game is laughable.
We were down 24 points with 18 minutes left. We played out of our minds to just get a chance to tie it.
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I know Oregon and Boise fans still kind of hate each other...
but chin up, guys. Bronco Nation knows ALL about losing on last-minute field goals. At least you guys didn’t get basically knocked out of the BCS entirely.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Objectively, we lost very little.
Thanks for the perspective.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Yeah, other than the LSU rematch possibility nothing really changes for us here
Because if we lose to Oregon St next week, we don’t deserve to go to the conference championship game anyway
by eloomis20 on Nov 19, 2011 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks, very nice and classy of you (and don't worry, it's only some Duck fans and some BSU fans ;))
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 19, 2011 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
Well, maybe. Probably not. But now that hope is gone.
Although, I still hold a tiny shred of hope that the Fiesta Bowl will take us as an at-large.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
Cheers...
I just hope to God we NEVER, ever have to rely on a kicker to pull out a game again.
by ConfofChamps on Nov 19, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
I may be in the minority...
but I really want to bury the hatchet with BSU fans… I hate to say that much of it on our part is sour milk. We use to be there and I hate to root against the underdog.
That said, I will always have a hard time letting that cheap shot against Masoli go :)
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
And we'll never forget that cheapshot on Hout. :P
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
You mean the patented Blount Sneer Eraser.
Costly, and you only get to use it once a year.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Hey now...
He wouldn’t have sneered if Blount hadn’t guaranteed an ass-whooping before the game. That being said, right after the game probably wasn’t the best time for Hout to talk trash.
Clippers // Chargers // Rays // Boise State
"The Lakers do win games. But things can change." - Blake Griffin
They both learned their lessons the hard way.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
/signed, obviously.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 10:36 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for this.
I will say that my split Oregon/Boise fandom sucks even more over the last 7 days than usual. JESUS CHRIST I HATE FIELD GOALS.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
I'm glad the steam was let out...
Weed out the bandwagoners, remind people the Rose Bowl and the conference championship are the most important prizes, get rid of all the silly streaks/records/who cares, and remember to NEVER take this special, amazing, program we have for granted. You can’t win ’em all.
Also, my first feeling after the loss was I was sickness about giving USC such recruiting momentum. My rational side has since prevailed and given me the following solace: The Pac 12 has suffered as a whole with a down SC. As much as I hate to say it, we are all going to be better off with them good. Hats off to them and can you believe Lane Kittikins is actually a pretty good coach????
They can recruit all they want, but there's going to be at least 10 players each the next 3 years looking for a different home.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
True...
but what do you think about us being better off with a strong SC?
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
I always want a stronger conference.
SC has their built-in advantage at all times, whether they’re down or not. They got a giant class of 4 and 5* players after a 5-loss season. So it’s kind of irrelevant. The thing is, as long as UO is strong, players who don’t want to wait their turn behind a couple other top recruits will know they have an alternative.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
Fair enough...
But certainly we will be fighting over some pretty special players with the 15 they have…
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
No matter how good we get or how much we beat USC
USC will always get prime SoCal talent. They will always be first choice to many, many of the kids there. Home field advantage.
Well hopefully this weekend will be salvaged a bit by getting a commit or two
Time for the team to focus in and win a Rose Bowl. Lots to be learned from this game. God it would’ve helped to have had Gildon or Cliffy though.
I care more about linemen at this point
Though that is a very good get for us.
We've hit our glass ceiling at this point
To where we need better players on both lines for us to be able to perform better consistently (our WR’s not dropping balls all over the field would help as well). That’s the place where we’re lacking.
We’ll have our guys at WR, RB, QB, LB, and DB next year. Not a whole lot of improvement to be gained by getting better recruits at those positions.
But our Oline and front 7 on D are areas that when we’re losing games, those positions are getting eaten alive.
I feel the same way
We have the expectations now of the big time programs, but our recruiting on the lines and in key positions is worlds away from them. We’re still playing “diamond in the rough” guys in many spots on defense, and trying to find ways to scheme around having linemen that just don’t match up.
It’s fun to have guys like LMJ and DAT, and Chip sure knows how to use them, but I really doubt an Oklahoma, Ohio State, Florida, or even USC would trade their recruiting classes for ours. You have no margin for error when the other guys are just bigger and stronger.
We have a load of OL redshirting this year.
Good ones. And the #1 priority in recruiting appears to be DL. But Tyner is “special” good. Fastest 100 in state history, sculpted from marble, and only a junior, so if the verbal keeps he doesn’t count on this class anyway.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
Huh?
I hadn’t heard that.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
They look good tonight...but thier season is done
We still have a chance at at least 2 high profile games in the P12CG and BCS bowl. USC has UCLA.
Think about this folks
We’re on track to win MORE conference titles in 3 years than we did the entire time MB was coach.
Just think of that for a sec, and smile.
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Think about this...
what IF Cliffy gets it together and The Michael decides to go one more year baby!!!
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
We're going to be awesome in 2012 anyways.
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This actually could go well for Oregon
Focus on the Rose bowl, go win that game so you can finally shed the label of folding in big games with time off before hand… next year you will start at top 5 with all your returners. and have a better shot at the title game.
CLIFF HARRIS...
CLIFF HARRIS CLIFF HARRIS CLIFF HARRIS!!!
Damn he better come back next year with a vengeance!
I don't think it is too far fetched...
he’s a different sort of dude…
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
He wont even be the first PAC running back taken in the draft
I think Polk is more suited for the NFL game right now, he will probably get taken earlier
assuming James goes
I think he will go too after injuring his elbow he knows how short a running backs career is, and his stock wont get better
LMJ has proven all he can at the college level
He’d be crazy not to go
exactly hes just risking his own well being playing another year
Especially after watching james rodgers last year, that could happen to james and he gets no money.
I think it is a forgone conculstion
I don’t blame him, and I sort of hope he goes. A RB life is short you have to get your pay days.
Agreed but...
He just strikes me as somebody who is not completely obsessed with football/money/fame, etcetera. I could see him wanting to just give it another shot for the natty…
That said, I would not want him to either. Go make some cash, and the Natty is far too elusive. It would be a precarious decision.
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:29 PM PST up reply actions
He either already has his degree or will have it soon.
That was a big part of his decision as well. No reason for him to stay considering the short shelf-life of running backs.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
I actually don't want Cliff back next year
More trouble than he’s worth. Time for him to move on.
Well if he can't learn from this...
He won’t learn from anything… but of what we know, nothing he has done is much more than young perhaps arrogant stupidity. Perhaps there is stuff behind the scenes we have no clue about.
Bottom line: Cliff has a chance to be a first round NFL pick. If he can’t use that as motivation for a monster senior season then I pray for him as a human being.
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:26 PM PST up reply actions
I actually don't think he is a high NFL draft pick
Word from scouts is that he can’t tackle on the NFL level and thus a risky prospect
Cliff Harris will not play another down in an Oregon Duck uniform.
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Don't have one. Just a hunch.
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If Cliff wants to be Drafted in the NFL he has to come back
His Draft slide this year is almost as bad as Blounts
Yeah Cliff has enough to be gained by coming back that I think it's a very real possibility
And he’s definitely not been divorced from the team by CK.
He's a true junior.
And I think what Tako means is that there’s a chance he might be released from his scholarship.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions
I don't mean that at all.
Whether he transfers, declares for the draft, or gets into some other bullshit that gets him dismissed from the team, I don’t think he’ll be a part of the team next season.
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With Mitchell, Hill, Ifo and Patterson back next year I'm not too worried about Cliffy
He cost us a lot this year though forcing us to play those young CB’s. Would’ve helped soooo much to have him in there locking down Lee. He’s one of the CB’s I’ve seen at playing those deep balls.
A silver lining...
that they will have experience next year… but Cliff is a special talent. If he can become a leader you want him on your team. If Cliff can best his sophomore year as a senior it would be unbelievable, and I would love our chances to win it all.
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
Cliff has never shown he can be a leader.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
To not lead our secondary?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
Hasn't shown the slightest inclination.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
This season, yes.
If, and that’s a big if, he buys into the system in place by Kelly et. al. there’s no reason Cliff couldn’t mature into a leader.
But you’re correct. To date, he hasn’t shown he has the desire to be a leader on this team. But I like his chances if he comes back next season.
It would be a miraculous turnaround from a fundamentally selfish and immature kid.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
I understand where you're coming from...
I really do. I also hope he turns the corner with help from this football program and becomes a valuable asset to this team in more ways than his play on the field. I don’t personally know him, so I can’t say he is fundamentally selfish, although his actions on and off the field at times appear to be driven by very selfish reasons. But I do see opportunity in coming back next season for growth, both as a player and as an individual.
Some are saying he's probably played his last game here.
He can sit a year and play somewhere else.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
No reason to transfer and sit a year just to play a year
If he’s going to play, there’s no better place to do it than UO. We face more passes than any other team in the nation year in and year out and we’ll be a top 5 preseason team.
It might not be his choice is what I mean.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
If it's not his choice
CK should’ve already let him know and had him transferring by this point. If he’s not going to be allowed back there’s nothing to be gained in allowing him to be around the team. It should be down to going pro or coming back and dominating and playing his way into another natty appearance and a top 20 pick for Cliff at this point.
Kelly has laid the law down on players to toe the line or they're gone.
Blount played by the rules, Masoli was an idiot. I bet that’s the particular doghouse Harris is living in right now.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
the bar in NYC was jumpin
A hundred or so Oregon fans packed the place, cheers for our ducks rang out loud and clear. It came down to the last second and we lost, but we are marching on to the bars on St Marks, Japanese beers and grilled chicken liver to drown the sorrow. Next week will be a slaughter house, lil brother,
You’re in trouble.
Drunk and in disbelief in NYC…
by OregonNYC on Nov 19, 2011 9:24 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
Starting to look like Cals’ probably not going to give us the satisfaction of clinching the North tonight anyway.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Doesn't matter. I want to beat the Beavs and celebrate in front of them.
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They did beat fuskington today.
I would of course like to see the Ducks come out looking to rip some motherloving heads off.
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Fuck washington.
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Scout shows Tyner has verballed.
Beast.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:32 PM PST reply actions
And why the hell not.
Can be the home state hero.
Best running game in the conference.
Best team in the conference.
And if he wants, he can run for the best track program in the conference.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
I've seen chatter that he's actually more interested in track than football.
But that doesn’t make much sense, because he now has to get permission to run on the track team from CK whereas if he took a track scholarship it would be the other way around.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
Oh I'm sure.
What I meant was if he was more interested in T&F, he would take a track scholarship and play football as a secondary commitment.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
That makes sense.
There’s a couple interesting quotes by Tyner in the Oregonian
He was being recruited by every power conference in the nation, including several Southeastern Conference schools.
“Football wise, I think I fit pretty well into Oregon’s offense,” Tyner said. "I think with a lot of those SEC schools, they run a Pro-I, grinding type offense that would take a toll on my body. In Oregon’s spread offense, I can get out in the open and use my speed. I think I can rack up some yards. Plus, Oregon has shown they do a good job recruiting offensive linemen.
And:
At one point it was believed that Oregon State had the inside track to Tyner, and he admitted the Beavers held a special place with him entering the school year because they were the first team that recruited him and the first team to offer him a scholarship.
“For any athlete, the first school that offers you, you automatically like that school; it’s going to put a big smile on your face,” Tyner said. “So I gave Oregon State a lot of attention, and I really loved it in Corvallis, and the coaches are amazing, they made me feel like family. Then I went down to the Sacramento State game … and that wasn’t too pretty. I ended up leaving at halftime. It seems like their sports are going down, and Oregon, I don’t know, I just like it down there. It’s awesome.” :
The fact that he left at halftime of a recruiting visit is hilarious.
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by Takimoto on Nov 19, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Year after year of Riley not giving a crap about the early season.
Its catching up to him; actually probably has caught up to him over the last could of years. Tyner is probably just saying something that a bunch of recruits have thought the last coupe of years.
That Sac State game was a real doozy for OSU
And no Beaver should blame Tyner. Lose to Sac State, reap the rewards.
by ConfofChamps on Nov 19, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
I had a hard time believing he was serious about OSU due to the T&F thing.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
normally if someone is going to play football and another sport at school
the ncaa forces it to be a football scholarship
Makes sense
Teams would so obviously cheat the system otherwise
Yup
http://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/index.ssf/2011/11/thomas_tyner_five-star_prospec.html
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As good as Tyner looks
We need those big bodies a lot more than him.
He's a junior.
So there’s 2 classes including his before he gets here.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
I know
But we’ll always have high level talent at RB. We need to start getting 4* and 5* players on the line.
We have some redshirting.
And OL are the slowest to develop, so loading up this class doesn’t pay dividends for a couple years anyway.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
We have 4* players on the line.
They are all young though, give it some time.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Ouch
I freaking hate losing. I’ll tell you one thing though – the crowd brought their A game big time tonight. Everyone was still on their feet and screaming on defense when it was 31-14. Best Autzen crowd a season.
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by daisyduck on Nov 19, 2011 9:36 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I heard from some friends
It was the loudest they ever could.
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Btw, how aweosme was the fake lateral
On the kick return TD
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Awesome, because it worked.
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I blame Kelly
There were plenty of fumbles, drops, and missed opportunities to go around, but the bottom line is this: Oregon could have had two more plays to work with at the end of the game but chose not to, and left time outs on the board as a result. That’s Kelly’s fault and once again, Kelly proves he doesn’t have what it takes, on a consistent basis, in a big game.
You're ridiculous...
and I have a hard time believing you actually are a fan of this team
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
FIRE CHIP KELLY,
HIRE BELLOTTI.
FIRE BELLOTTI,
HIRE MACKOVIC.
FIRE MACKOVIC,
HIRE CRAIG JAMES.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
If not for Chip Kelly,
we don’t have a chance to argue about how many plays we could have had at the end of the game. Our players dug the hole, and Chip did all he could to get us out.
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Until the end
when he left time outs on the board
The idea is that timeouts only give USC's defense time to prepare. By staying on the field, we keep the tempo and the momentum with our team.
I understand why we didn’t use the timeouts. Should we have? That’s subjective. But it wasn’t like it was for no reason.
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Negative
That’s first half philosophy. USC has little depth on defense, in the last minute of the 4th quarter an extra 40 seconds to suck air isn’t going to matter. They were had the entire 4th quarter. More plays= more oppertunities.
Here's the thing: I wanted a time out exactly when you went a time out.
But I understand Coach Kelly’s reasoning. That’s all I’m saying.
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sooooo
You are saying you agree with me, but you are giving Kelly the benefit of the doubt after he has done this a half dozen times over? That’s interesting…
by Capt Orygun on Nov 19, 2011 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Half dozen
Name them please. Support your opinion with evidence.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
I think a bad coach doesn't have reasoning for his decisions.
Chip Kelly employs a high-risk, high-reward philosophy. I like that he stands by his philosophy, and makes decisions that make sense to his system. If you don’t like it, you should probably root for another team for as long as Chip Kelly is Oregon’s head coach.
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Exactly
I will always side with Kelly until he proves that his aggressiveness is producing 8-5 seasons consistently. There’s nothing I really vehemently disagree with in terms of how the game was called. It was just one of those games.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Done what a half dozen times over?
Closest analog is ’zona ’09. Win.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:05 PM PST up reply actions
I give Kelly the benefit of the doubt
Because he is 31-6 in three years as a head coach. Only Alabama’s Nick Saban has a better record.
So you wanted to give their thin defense a breather and scheme to stop us?
Brilliant.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
You have apparently
never done strenuous activity for three hours straight, it doesn’t work that way
by Capt Orygun on Nov 19, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
I see, you're Opposite Guy.
Everything you say is the exact opposite of reality.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
So here's the plan:
We’ll wait until we finally get momentum and have USC on their heels then disrupt that momentum right when it’s needed most. Well done.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:48 PM PST up reply actions
So instead
You’d rather throw a pass out of bounds and waste six seconds and then take 40 seconds discussing it?
Because that’s what happened. If we take a timeout instead of throwing that out of bounds we have another play and another 6 seconds. And they have exactly the same breather they did before.
Meh.
I’m done with this. I understand what he did and why he did it. If you don’t, that’s fine too. This game shouldn’t have come down to such parsing and that’s the real problem.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
If not for Chip Kelly,
we don’t have a conference championship in the last 9 seasons. We might not even get close. Or even a BCS bowl game.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
There is no defense for this if you aren't a homer
“Don’t leave time outs on the board” is day one stuff for a coach.
Unless you play with TEMPO!
A strategy you’d be well familiar with if you really were a fan of the team.
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
oh and... Kelly really does not care what coaching 101 says...
since he has a double PHD… I’m sure you would have been upset at Kelly had he not converted that 4th and 7 last week, or the onside kick last year against Stanford… Either you love our ruthless attack always let’s have some fun playing the GAME coach or you don’t. Don’t straddle the fence.
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
Kelly's a quantum physicist.
Your parochial Newtonian mechanics bore him.
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by omb on Nov 19, 2011 9:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Why?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
Nope.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
ATTENTION BRIAN COOK
If you want “This Week in Schadenfreude” fodder, here it is. AND A BONUS! It’s condescending, he resorts to personal attacks, he has the benefit of armchair coaching, and what’s even better, it’s wrong.
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by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 10:42 PM PST up reply actions
This is one of the dumbest things I’ve read.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Nov 20, 2011 8:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Now that we don't have to worry about SOS...
Screw them both?
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Helluva game by USC
I didn’t think Kiffy had it in him. He called a great game, and Barkley was outstanding tonight. BUT…even in the loss I am so glad we have the players we have. Barkley is the kind of QB I never want on my team…yelling at players, complaining the second something doesn’t go his way…and did anyone listen to his post game interview? He basically said this: “Our defense has let us down a lot in games like this…that’s all I was thinking about during the FG.”
What a dick!
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
The only thing I'm mad at Kelly for is this...
“If the crowd stays this loud we win”
When I heard that I knew something was wrong…
BIZARRO CHIP KELLY COACHED THE GAME TONIGHT!!!
Well the crowd didn't stay that loud.
So he was right. Right?
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Bizarro CK is never right...
You should know this
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
Tempo too fast at times?
I love the tempo of the offense, and I agree that it is a major factor for our success, but did it seem like there were a few instances where actually settling down would have helped?
There are times when it seems like they actually play so fast that they seem unsettled. The throw to Tuinei was a good example. I know they are trying to move quickly, but it seemed like the rush to snap the ball ended up in a poor play during a critical point in the game.
You know, I thought that at a number of times last year.
But I haven’t thought that this year. Especially tonight. I thought when we pushed the tempo, we were in rhythm and really disrupting the Trojan defense.
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Yeah, I guess it is a risk/reward.
The positives gained on the whole outweigh the negatives. I just thought that once we got past half, it was a good time to utilize timeouts because I didn’t see the Trojan defense stopping us at any pace. I thought the rushed plays led to not getting the right guys the ball.
We're a team that will have at least a few three and outs a game.
But the reward of the big plays trump that big loss propensity.
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Nope.
They didn’t get into a good, quick tempo until the 4th quarter and that’s what got us back in the game.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 9:51 PM PST up reply actions
Someone had already brought this up...
…and they’re right. 90% of teams in the country would have quit after it was 38-14. Mailed it in, packed their bags, done. The fact that we nearly erased a 24 point deficit is INSANE and shows the attitude and moxy that Oregon had.
That said, I think the one play the changed the game was the LMJ fumble before halftime. That turnover was just flat out devastating. It erased any possible points that we could have got off that drive and it would have given us a lot more confidence going into halftime being only down 14-21 rather than 7-21. Obviously there were tons of other key moments in the game that killed us, but if you had to point out one thing that went wrong, then I’m going with LMJ’s fumble no questions asked. Especially since he rarely fumbles.
Agreed. I really thought Oregon had this game. That comeback was ferocious.
One of the best games I have watched all year.
I was certain we were going to get a TD on that last drive. Or rather I was hoping, because I didn't have a good feeling about a FG attempt.
Special teams — aside from kick returns — haven’t been very special this year.
Have we even had a touchback all season?
And Rice picked a bad game to have his worst game of his career.
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I'm with ya, Benz
It’s why I was confused at the screen pass to LT. SC’s secondary must have been playing a really good prevent.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
The screens had been working, more or less, all game
My concerns are more on defense. Where the fuck was Dion Jordan tonight? Any explanation? Or Gildon?
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I like the screens, too
Just not LT. Jordan was injured early, and his injury was felt early and throughout the game. There was no speed rush from the edge with him out of the game. Having to play Wallace was huge to. We missed Stucky and Jordan being out there.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Jordan left with a lower left leg injury in the 1st Q.
Stuckey out with a shoulder issue. Gildon was academic related, I think.
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Btw to recent Oregon converst
Now you know what basically every single game from 1997-about 2002 was like.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Yep
Gotta realize with how we played tonight, and obviously with us losing this game we don’t deserve to be in the natty discussion. It just wasn’t in the cards this year.
We still have a great opportunity to go out and beat 2 bad teams at home and play our way into a Rose Bowl appearance though. That’s nothing to sneeze at. Win 3 more games and it’s still a great year.
The first game I remember seeing USC play at Autzen was something like a 53-0 loss
This was better.
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Did we get out-coached?
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Nov 19, 2011 9:52 PM PST via mobile reply actions
This seems more accurate.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
no
we played like shit for three quarters and ran out of time
--Dave
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by David Piper on Nov 19, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Stanford 2009
That’s what this felt like. Barkley was throwing perfect passes like Luck did.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
That one that fell into Lee's hands in double coverage was something ridiculous
as was Paulson’s one handed man catch.
--Dave
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by David Piper on Nov 19, 2011 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
If players make good plays
Then we probably don’t have to make that decision. Trojan players, for the most part, did not make Kiffin dig too deep. Barkley throws well, they catch well, game over.
We didn't get outcoached
You can’t blame the coaches for on-target dropped passes, fumbles, and shanking the FG at the end.
by surgingchaos on Nov 19, 2011 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't love the final drive
But in general, the team put themselves in a bad position.
I still did not completely understand the final minute, but he owns only part of the blame.
Nope.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
yup
scoreboard. We have the better team AND home field advantage. Nobody gets over on us at home without out coaching us, period.
Who knows but Kiffen coached a hell of a game...
hats off…
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
The difference between a fan and a homer
Is saying what isn’t comfortable to say.
The difference between a moron and a normal person
Is not having myopic, ill informed, poorly supported, knee jerk reactions and freaking out over a coach who has taken Oregon to places we’ve never been before. If you think there’s a coach out there that is a better fit for Oregon and that would actually come coach here, well, then you should probably put that bottle of nitrous down and seek professional help.
by emc503 on Nov 19, 2011 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
yawn
If you guys exercised any less thought you could get a bit part in “The Walking Dead.” It is not sacrilege to criticize Chip Kelly. This is not China in the 1960’s and Kelly is not Mao
Sure. But pissing in everyone's cheerios doesn't make you right.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Then I never want to be right!
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
by JShufelt on Nov 20, 2011 8:27 AM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Okay, then. What do you suggest. You're the AD. Who do you hire and why.
And explain how having the second best overall record in College football over the past 3 years is anything other than amazing?
I like to critically think about things...
But nothing you’ve stated has convinced me. Write something longer than a twitter post and explain your reasons…then we can have a conversation.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
LMJ fumble, Vaughn dropped screen pass with wide open lane to the end zone
bad throw by DT to a wide open DAT and poor job of catching it by DAT. Those plays killed us and CK had nothing to do with that.
its nice to see
you have developed some humility regarding your own opinions
I think we're all willing to recognize that you are the world's leading expert on your opinion.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
I used to be the world's leading expert on Capt Orygun's opinion,
but he passed me up after I mismanaged the last minute.
by Bicycle Rider on Nov 19, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
The reason that no one here agrees with you is not that everyone but you is a homer.
It’s you are wrong.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Trying really hard to understand...
what comfortability has to do with deciding a homer from a fan (and by the way isn’t a homer a fan????)…
It is easy to say that Kelly should have called a time out since we lost. It is much harder to see the big picture and understand that Kelly plays an aggressive brand of football and not have ridiculous knee jerk subjective reactions.
by Duckity_Duck on Nov 19, 2011 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Presenting questionable opinions as fact and insulting those who disagree is trollish.
“If you don’t agree with me you’re a homer and I refuse to even listen to your counter-argument.”
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That's not true and everyone sees right through your lies
A fan is also someone that supports their team when things don’t go their way. Still waiting for that first comment from you. A fan is also someone that celebrates the good with class as well as the bad. So funny you didn’t have one comment after the Stanford game. Ironic huh? A fan is also one that doesn’t need to bemoan and degrade other fans in order for their point to sound significant. Which is why real fans here have a hard time actually calling you out for what you are. A troll.
And just for the record, Oregon losing doesn’t make you right. It also doesn’t make you a fan. You showing up after two losses to stir shit and make dumbass comments, makes you a troll. And not even a good troll, that actually supports another team that we can ignore. It makes you the worst kind of troll, one that makes real fans ashamed of another fan of their own team. You might call yourself a fan, and that’s fine. But you’re a terrible fan.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
by Matt Daddy on Nov 20, 2011 2:31 AM PST up reply actions 7 recs
Okay. Wow. You topped yourself. This is now the dumbest thing I’ve read.
No, seriously. This:
“hours side its this stomp push en podgy en chic hate WI lady” makes more intellectual sense, and that was just scribbled random lines on Swype.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Nov 20, 2011 8:26 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Kelly didn't fail us when players were fumbling and dropping balls
he failed us when we had a chance to win and he didn’t use every last resource we had.
by Capt Orygun on Nov 19, 2011 9:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
In the scale of blame for this loss
The players bear a lot more of the burden than CK does. CK could’ve used those timeouts, but major derpitude by the players cost us a lot more. Heck, if DT makes a good throw to DAT on that wheel route, DAT scores easily.
Zona!!!
Please beat ASU. I so badly want the opportunity to play UCLA in championship.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Yeah at this point
give us a fresh team to slaughter
Look at it this way:
would you rather have lost to Stanford and beat USC, instead of the other way around?
this way we at least win the conference for the third straight year and go to the Rose Bowl
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Btw OT
But this is cool, my alma matter:
http://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2011-11-19/grinnell-guard-scores-89-points
Grinnell’s Griffin Lentsch erupted for 89 points, an NCAA Division III record, as the Pioneers sailed past Principia 145-97 on Saturday.
Lentsch’s scoring output surpassed the previous DIII mark of 77 points set by former Grinnell star Jeff Clement in 1998.
Lentsch finished 27-of-55 from the field, including 15-of-33 from behind the 3-point line. The 15 treys rank ninth most in all of NCAA. He was also 20-of-22 from the free throw line — a Grinnell record.
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I for one am proud of the ducks
I know people are pissed off right now. However. the ducks were down by 24 points. I know many duck fans (not true duck fans) that turned off the game at that point. The ducks once again showed SO much HEART. They were getting their asses handed to them but they kept digging. They fought and made a game of it…there were lots of mistakes made by the offense and NOT just the defense. GO DUCKS…FUCKING DESTROY OSU!!!!!
One more thought….stop questioning Kelly…if this were a Belotti coached team the Ducks would have lost by 30…if anything I wish Kelly would have faked a field goal at the end…ducks are my team win or lose
by bduck on Nov 19, 2011 10:04 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Agreed
I didn’t like the centering the ball plays. Other than that, they pushed hard and moved the ball up field.
Still, a last second field goal miss was far better that anyone expected at the end of the 3rd quarter.
Herbie is explaining that now...
by encephalopath on Nov 19, 2011 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
Oh man!
My head would have exploded from a fake FG!
by INducktrination on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
Touchdown Cal. Should be 1-score game, 11 minutes to play.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
And they get the 2-point.
Stanford 28, Cal 21.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
2 pt conversion good, 7 point game.
LET’S GO BEARS LET’S GO YOU BEARS!
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If we can't have nice things, no one can.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Well if Cal wins, my girlfriend doesn't come home from Palo Alto pissed off.
And that’s a good thing for everyone.
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I think you may be overdefining "everyone"
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:13 PM PST up reply actions
Don't underestimate the karmic significance of a happy Tako's Girlfriend.
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Liar!!!!
You don’t have a girlfriend. You support Kelly blindly and are not a real fan who lives in his mother’s basement.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
TD Cal
and gets the two. Seven point game at the farm.
--Dave
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Pac-12 getting proper fucked today.
Oregon loses any chance at the Natty.
Stanford doesn’t look great, in danger of losing out on a BCS bid if Cal comes all the way back.
Wazzu loses in OT, is eliminated from bowl consideration.
Still possible south champ ASU throws up on themselves.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Pac-12 has been doing this all year
A bad year for the Pac
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
We're still smelling roses baby!
I don’t really care about “perceived” conference strength. Not at this point anyways. That’s for “SEC” fans to worry about.
Oh THAT's what's going on in 'Zona.
ASU didn’t heed our game and wore their all-blacks.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Good news on the volleyball front
The Ducks took a 5-setter from Cal in Berkeley after winning against the Cardinal last night.
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Interesting.
CGB’s usually all about Volleyball. But their thread doesn’t have a single comment. It’s almost like there’s a… bigger game on, or something.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Go Ducks.
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Cal hit negative in the fifth set. I find this amazing.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:25 PM PST up reply actions
That is amazing. I'm pissed I was stuck at home watching that damn football game and not at Haas Pavilion watching a Duck win.
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...there was apparently a free feed.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
Now you tell me. I thought we were friends.
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If you were a real fan, you’d have read the Stanford recap whence I got this information.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions
Don't patronize me like that.
You know I’m not a real fan.
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Maybe if you’d ditch the girlfriend and move into your mama’s basement…
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
Damnit, that was my mistake!
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Thinking about 2012...
USC’s off probation, right?
All of a sudden this rivalry gets very interesting. That might be the only game we aren’t favored to win next season.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
They have scholarship restrictions though
15 allowed the next 3 years instead of 25.
Also no Barkley.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Kiffin's done a really good job of front-loading his schollies.
And USC is still USC. They lose depth, but they won’t lose playmakers.
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Moot point anyway.
SC always gets recruits. Carrol didn’t have immediate success with a bunch of scrappy 2-stars and walkons, if you remember.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:20 PM PST up reply actions
Just the QB and LT and S (McDonald), DE (Perry), DT (Tupou), RB (Tyler), TE (Ellison), LB (Gallipo),
They lose several key players.
They're off probation
But they’re down 10 scholarships.
But yes,, I think the matchups are going to get interesting. Though I’m not sure – do we play USC in 2013 and 2014?
No, it's two years of Southern Cal, two years of UCLA, repeat.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
No, Oregon schools play both Zonas every year, alternate two years of USC&CU with two of UCLA&Utah.
NorCal schools have both SoCals every year, Washingtons have the n00bs.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, that's right
The stupid rule for Cal/Stanford to always play UCLA/USC every year. That’s right.
So interesting; next year there’s no Barkley but a lot of talent everywhere and it’s there. And then we miss them for 2 years while they’re on scholarship probation but are allowed to go to bowls.
So realistically next year is the last year for a while that we’ll play them in anything other than the CG.
Yeah. I remember the absolute rivalry atmosphere at UCLA-Furd last year...
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 1:33 AM PST up reply actions
Scholly restrictions and very likely no Barkley.
BUT the huge class they signed and mostly redshirted will be there.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions
Why?
Their talent level is always high. Our talent level is rising fast. They’re still SC regardless. It’s an opportunity, not a reason to panic. If we can’t beat SC to get to the Rose or the BCSNCG we don’t deserve to be there and that’s what makes football great.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
Dear Cal
cover the fucking fullback.
--Dave
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Btw focus on ending our streak of not winning a Rose since 1917
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I choose to focus on extending the CW streak to 4.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:23 PM PST up reply actions
I think this board is taking our loss slightly better than Land Thieves taking the OU loss
http://www.landthieves.com/board/
Check the image at the top.
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they'll wake up tomorrow and still have to live in Oklahoma
I hope we never get so spoiled that a two loss season is considered a failure.
--Dave
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by David Piper on Nov 19, 2011 10:21 PM PST up reply actions
And 2 ASU losses, right?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:24 PM PST up reply actions
I think Utah needed UCLA to lose today
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
As long as we take care of the bavers
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
A 3-way tie is very likely now.
Here’s how I think it works… Ucla is 5-3, likely to finish 5-4. Utah is 4-4, likely to finish 5-4. ASU is 4-4, and the Cal game could go either way.
If Utah loses to Colorado, they’re out, ASU’s out no matter what they do and Ucla goes, whether or not they lose to USC.
If Utah wins and ASU loses to Cal. Then there’s a tie between Utah and Ucla, and since Utah has the tiebreaker they go.
If Utah wins and ASU wins and Ucla loses, you have a 3-way tie. The next team down in line is Arizona – only Utah beat them, so Utah would go, I think. I think that’s the tiebreaker, but Utah would also have the best overall record.
If Ucla beats USC, they win the division and go to the CCG no matter what anyone else does.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
I might have this wrong.
If the tiebreaker goes to record against USC rather than Arizona, then ASU would control their destiny so long as UCLA lost.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
ASU DERP
Bye bye Erickson
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
Unbelievable.
But very believable.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
As The Quackfather 2010 nears its end...
Nick Aliotti: The boss says he’ll come in a separate car. He says for you two to go on ahead.
Mike Riley: Hell, he can’t do that; that screws up all my arrangements.
Nick Aliotti: Well, that’s what he said.
Mark Helfrich: I can’t go with you either, Riley.
[as duck players materialize around them, Riley understands everything]
Riley: [to Helfrich] Tell Chip it was only business, I always liked him.
Mark Helfrich: He understands that.
Nick Aliotti: [removing Riley’s playcard] Excuse me, Mikey
Riley: Can you get me off the hook, Nick? For old times’ sake?
Nick Aliotti: [shakes his head] Can’t do it, Mikey.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
One differnce
LaMichael James averaged less than 4.0 rushing yards per carry only twice this season. Oregon lost both games.
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But Kenjon Barner.
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I'm okay with him being the #1 back next year.
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On that note
Why did they pull LMJ? I didn’t think he was injured (and he did score on that last TD) so why was he out and Barner in?
Fresh legs.
And it worked.
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Don't know, but it was working.
And I do think LMJ aggravated his elbow injury on that fumble just before the half.
He definitely was hurtying after that play.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
I have to admit, watching Barner run
it was the first time I really bought into Chip’s “1 and 1-A” running back philosophy. Barner was doing some amazing running on that last drive.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
Btw think about how far we've come since this came out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hrjpe1VCNg
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by skywaker9 on Nov 19, 2011 10:25 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
If the Rose Bowl is a consolation prize,
you’re doing something right.
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Spencer just compared this to LSU's 8, and I LOLed.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
67, actually
Per ESPN
B. Osweiler 36/65 487 yards 1TD/2INT
G. Robinson 2/2 56 yards 0/0
487 yards and 1 touchdown. I don’t even…
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:37 PM PST up reply actions
Guys, for the south:
UCLA controls their own destiny
If they beat USC, they win the south.
If they lose, it shifts to ASU. If ASU beats Cal, they win the south.
If they lose, it shifts to Utah. If Utah beats Colorado, they win the south.
If they lose, UCLA wins the south.
"We Believe" - Rudy Fernandez
Got a feeling it's going to be Utah.
ASU is in a free fall, although they might be able to right themselves since Cal has nothing to play for. But who knows if they’ll show up. If you can’t beat Arizona at home are you going to beat Cal?
And no way UCLA beats USC.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
Doesn't matter...
The Ducks should handle any of those three teams from the south. Then again, I was confident we’d win tonight.
My feeling is:
Utah wins out.
Ucla loses to SC.
ASU is the wild card. Cal and ASU are so damn schizophrenic that I don’t even want to try to call it.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:39 PM PST up reply actions
How does the 3-way tiebreak work?
If Ucla loses, ASU wins, and Utah wins, there’s a 3-way. They’re all 1-1 against each other. The usual next step would be record against the next team down – but is that USC (favors ASU) or Arizona (favors Utah)? Or is it something else?
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
In the case of a 3-way as I understand it.
Tie-breaking Procedures Divisional Champion Tie-breaker
Two Teams:
Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams. If no game is played between the two tied teams or that game ends in a tie, the following tie-breaking procedures would be applied:
Record in games played within the division.
Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all Conference games, both divisional and cross-divisional) proceeding through the division.
Record in common Conference games.
Highest BCS Ranking following the last weekend of regular-season games.
Total number of wins in a 12-game season. The following conditions will apply to the calculation of the total number of wins:
Only one win against a team from the NCAA Football Championship Subdivision or lower division will be counted annually.
Any games that are exempted from counting against the annual maximum number of football contests per NCAA rules (current Bylaw 17.9.5.2) shall not be included.
6. Coin toss.
Three or More Teams:
The following procedures will only be used to eliminate all but two teams, at which point the two-team tie-breaking procedure will be applied.
Head-to-head (best record in games among the tied teams).
Record in games played within the division.
Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on record in all Conference games, both divisional and cross-divisional), proceeding through the division.
Record in common Conference games.
Highest BCS Ranking following the last weekend of regular-season games.
(Emphasis Mine)
In the case of a three way tie they all beat each other, so step 2 is in effect.
UCLA would be 2-3 in the South
Utah would be 3-2 in the South
ASU would be 3-2 in the South
UCLA would be eliminated, the tiebreaker then goes back to the two way rules:
ASU beat Utah head to head so goes to the CCG.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
welll it will take a miracle for Cal to beat furd now
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
LOL 'furd's field still blows.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:31 PM PST reply actions
LOL not directed towards the player but the announcer comments.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:31 PM PST up reply actions
It's been raining all game.
And all week in the Bay Area.
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You'd think such a collection of big brains would have heard of "drainage."
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:34 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know if there's a lot to be done when it's been raining the entire second half.
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Oh Zach Maynard
you’re so fucking terrible
--Dave
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He makes Brady Leaf look like Cody Kempt.
Amirite?
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Kelly has the balls and the class
This is a sad loss but Kelly can show this to be what it was, not playing to our best ability and just getting beat. He is taking this program to new heights and will get us to the Rose Bowl.
Win.The.Day. Win Ducks Win
by Duck for Life on Nov 19, 2011 10:36 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
lmj
So any reason why lmj wasn’t in as much in the second half? I only had the game on the radio so I’m not sure if he was in there or not but I heard barner’s name a lot more than James’s.
by ngduck on Nov 19, 2011 10:37 PM PST via mobile reply actions
He was hurting after that fumble.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:38 PM PST up reply actions
Elbow.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
On the plus side
Barkley is almost certainly gone now.
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Twitter has suggested a correspondence between the presence of LeBron and an inability to finish in the 4th quarter.
Yes/no/dude that joke was already made in the gamethread?
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Alluded to several times.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
Ummm... Jonah?
Herbie is explaining that now...
by encephalopath on Nov 19, 2011 10:40 PM PST up reply actions
Also from the Twitters:
Damn, Chip Kelly went into the SC locker room to congratulate Monte KIffin personally. Respect due. #goducks
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Not surprising chip would do that.
The only coach Chip has ever given the stinkeye to is the Weez after Weezie shot his mouth off last year.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:43 PM PST up reply actions
Cal doesn't have enough time. Get the onside and there's one play if they're lucky.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
If you want to see bad clock management...
Check out the end of Cal-Stanford. Cal down 10, but making absolutely no effort to hurry up their offense. Mystifying.
Stanford wins. 31-28.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
It was a big game afterall
Herbie is explaining that now...
by encephalopath on Nov 19, 2011 10:46 PM PST up reply actions
Darn.
I kinda wanted Cal’s company in the GODDAMMIT FIELD GOALS club.
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I wanna know where the real CK was tonight.
I cannot believe he said that we would win if the crowd continued to be that loud. Just crazy talk coming from him…. Then the time management too? Surely a strange day for our coach.
We all learn in life and not even CK is perfect :) just hope he learns too!
ssshhh....
by OregOnDucks on Nov 19, 2011 10:44 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
That was odd. But I don't think he meant it that way.
I think he meant if the crowd kept being that loud it would mean we were staying in the game.
As for time management.. i need to go back and watch that last drive again before I state my definitive expert opinion. And I’m not ready to get depressed again. I’m still depressed.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
There were one or two times
when I definitely yelled “TIME OUT” at the screen. Maybe one of those times, we should’ve actually called time out. On the whole, though, I can see what Kelly was going for. That hurry-up tempo kept the Trojan D on their heels, and we were playing with good momentum.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 12:02 AM PST up reply actions
The crowd sucked for the second and most of the third quarter.
When they were loud and in to it, it was as loud as I’ve heard. My ears actually hurt a little this morning.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
by JShufelt on Nov 20, 2011 8:31 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
YOU CAN'T LET GUYS NAMED COBY BEAT YOU IN FOOTBAW.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:44 PM PST reply actions
And I'm in Twitter jail
FOr the second time tonight, first was during the 4th.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
the fuck is Twitter jail?
Cuz I want to go to there.
Addicted to Quack, #1 Oregon blog among female Duck fans, including the ageless and ever-radiant daisyduck.
If you tweet too often
More than 100 in an hour, you get banned for about 45-50 minutes.
I did that during the game and apparently just now again.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I have over 800 followers
That’ pretty good actually.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Wow! You're really credible, then!
Tell me, how should I feel about Phil Knight?
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
I will feel this way until someone with more followers instructs me otherwise.
Your move, Ashton Kucher.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 10:53 PM PST up reply actions
/checks follower count
DAMMIT!
"This season of Ole Miss football is a reminder to talk to your family now about what to do if you're in a persistent vegetative state." ~@celebrityhottub
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:54 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I need to stop live-tweeting volleyball
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:55 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I talk about Ducks, Blazers, other sports and politics
So I have a broad network.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I should start a twitter account to talk about all the things I ever think about.
Think there’d be a large following for someone who spends about 75% of his mental energy on probability theory, 20% on college football, and 5% on computer games?
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by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'd follow you.
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I wouldn't follow you.
Just because.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 1:16 AM PST up reply actions
Why in the world would you ever do that anyway?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Its accidental
I go nuts, its so easy to do.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
What could you possibly have to say that often?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Man.
I doubt I’ve posted more than a couple-hundred times here since 10AM.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
What's your account
I’m at 32894, a lot this week on Occupy Portland, usually about 80% sports, this week about 80% Occupy PDX.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Its easier to comment on Twitter during games
Than on here honestly, at least with my phone.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I've been in Twitter jail for several years.
I think it’s because I don’t have an account.
/principledstance
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 10:52 PM PST up reply actions
Here
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Twitter%20Jail
Twitter Jail is no tweeting if you’ve reached the limit of 100 tweets per hour/1000 per day.
You can access your page, you may not post publicly for a specific period of time. Anything from half an hour to a few hours.
Anti-spam thing.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
LeBron is an attention whore.
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I don't think so
He’s here on some Nike business and was invited to the game. AFAIK, he was just being polite to the home crowd.
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by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
...were you not part of that conversation?
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
See below.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Apparently
We were talking about this before the game, and according to my roommate, he was once doing a postgame on a Saturday in Portland, and stopped to ask how the Ducks did.
"This season of Ole Miss football is a reminder to talk to your family now about what to do if you're in a persistent vegetative state." ~@celebrityhottub
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
I REFUSE TO BELIEVE THIS.
He’s a very polite man. (Except to the city of Cleveland, of course.)
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 10:49 PM PST up reply actions
Lebron is a huge Ohio State fan.
ssshhh....
by OregOnDucks on Nov 19, 2011 10:50 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Hmm, Mandel has a point.
slmandel Stewart Mandel
After studying the possibilities, I think the only logical thing to do If LSU beats Arkansas is to end the season right there.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
I will subscribe to this.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 10:55 PM PST up reply actions
Just like what happened when we beat ASU in '07!
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Yep, that's how I remember it!
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 11:00 PM PST up reply actions
USC's football team outscored their hoops team tonight.
Lost to Cal Poly, 42-36
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
Little Brother beat Texas tonight, though
their first big nonconference win in a couple of decades
--Dave
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by David Piper on Nov 19, 2011 11:33 PM PST up reply actions
With Kevin Durant in attendance
That was impressive.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
The top 10 is going to be ugly tomorrow
1. LSU
2. Bama
3. Arky
4. – 10. Who Gives A Fuck
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
Stanford might be back up to 4, and fBSU back up to 5.
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But they didn't fall as far after their stupid loss to TTech as we did losing to LSU so WTF IDK SMH
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
I think that was a function of the timing.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 19, 2011 11:22 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Yes.
When we lost, suddenly everyone had a better record. The only no-win team in the week 2 polls.
Oklahoma had a nice soft landing spot b/c of all the 2 or more loss teams in the poll by then. Same reason why Okie State won’t fall as far as they probably should for losing to ISU.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Are you saying OSU will be ranked above teams they should be below? I don’t know if I buy that.
"This season of Ole Miss football is a reminder to talk to your family now about what to do if you're in a persistent vegetative state." ~@celebrityhottub
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 1:17 AM PST up reply actions
Okie.
They have the worst second loss. I think we could end up more highly ranked than OK State, but it’ll be close. Though at this point, rankings are moot for the Ducks. Rose Bowl Rose Bowl Rose Bowl.
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After a close win against Cal I kinda doubt Stanford will jump Oregon
The oregon beatdown is just too close in people’s minds, and losing barely to USC when they have such a good night is not that horrible a loss (especially compared to losing to Baylor or losing to Iowa state).
But who knows.
The only other 1-loss BCS teams,
Okie State, Virginia Tech, Stanford. It’s going to be very, very difficult to avoid an SEC rematch. And as annoying as that would be, at this point it’s fair right?
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
This was
At least an SEC team loses the title game.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
at least
none of us have to watch it
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Nov 19, 2011 11:34 PM PST up reply actions
I have to TA a class that Monday night
My prof would have canceled it if Oregon had been in the title game.
Now I have an excuse not to watch it.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I don't need an excuse not to watch it
--Dave
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by David Piper on Nov 19, 2011 11:36 PM PST up reply actions
Sure.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 19, 2011 11:12 PM PST up reply actions
Never allow these men into Autzen again
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Certainly not the one on the far right.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:21 PM PST up reply actions
I blame the puffy jackets... should not a done that
Herbie is explaining that now...
by encephalopath on Nov 19, 2011 11:37 PM PST up reply actions
thank you
that is just crazy talk
12-0 (9-0)
Oregon -- Oregon, for heaven's sakes -- is playing for the national championship. --Ivan Maisel
Heading for the lowest-rated BCSNCG ever?
Looks like it.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:20 PM PST reply actions
Any SC fan I encounter will hear this from me...
“I still think we’re a better team. They just made the plays in the end.” Matt Linefart
Having watched Stanford
I only hope we don’t come out as flat as they did tonight.
Thankfully Oregon State<Cal though.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Oregon State sitll doesn't worry me
Esp. if Rodgers is out.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
They worry me a little bit
Mostly because they have a competent QB and a good receiver. That gives us problems this year; unlike last year with Cliffy we have completely failed to cover #1 WRs well all year. Washington State, Arizona, Cal, USC all got tons of yards to their best WR. Now, they don’t have a true star if Rodgers isn’t there but it’s still a bit worrisome.
Mostly, I don’t think they have a defense that can stop us, so yay.
we should win. It’s the civil war though. Oregon State should have won in 2008 against us too.
2008 they were missing both Rodgers
And we came into that game really hot.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
They did have James for most of the game.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
2008 was a toss-up talent-wise.
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Yeah Maevao being complete shit
Was what made it a blowout.
Also Jeremiah Johnson playing the best game of his career.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
If we don't blow the bavers out
then we were ever BCS champ material, rival game or not.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
It's sad, but Rodgers hasn't been that much of a threat this year anyway.
So I don’t know that losing him is that big a blow to their chances. They are an awful running team. They have a pretty good WR or two, but Mannion is still a freshman. This game should be a blowout by the end of the 1st quarter.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
I doubt it.
We have a lot to play for, ‘furd has to have assumed there’s no way they get to the P12CG.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 19, 2011 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
One out of every ten of their players is injured?
Well, that’s not so bad then.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 12:06 AM PST up reply actions
85 players, so 8 or 9 out.
If those 8 or 9 are important to team success, it’s pretty bad.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:07 AM PST up reply actions
I was poking fun at the possible mistaken use of "decimated"
but if those numbers are correct, then fuck me sideways, looks like I’m the mistaken one!
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 12:12 AM PST up reply actions
I couldn't believe how many people didn't know what "decimated" meant in that thread.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:13 AM PST up reply actions
Bear with me I Just have to gett this off my chest...
BSU dropped off the top of my “Fuck those guys” list.
USC you now hold the top spot. Not because you beat us or the manner which you beat us. Because of the shitty things that were done tonight, and the fact that I hate your fucking fans. Thanks for reminding me why I hate your fucking guts. The hate had kinda dulled after 2 years of kicking your asses by 20 points.
I feel a little better.
Fuck’em up UCLA.
"I’m not making a bold prediction, but we believe we can win every football game."
what "shitty things" do you speak of?
Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.
by RA37thriller on Nov 20, 2011 12:05 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, was curious about that too
The teabagging LMJ sucked, and I know they were talking shit to the fans – but this isn’t particularly horrible. It’s not faking injury bad or throwing bottles bad. And it’s certainly not taking cheap shots at players bad. Sorry, BSU stays way up there.
I want to beat USC because USC will always represent the haves of the conference, and until Oregon can beat them reliably each year they will not be the king. But I don’t think they’re particuclarly classless.
The sitting on LMJ was close-but-not-quite-as-dickish as the injury thing.
But yeah, people “hate” SC because they are SC.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:09 AM PST up reply actions
definitely worse.
And penalizable.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Nice word.
But I think sitting on a player is dickish and unsportsmanlike but telling your players to fake injuries is flat-out unethical.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
How do you know he wasn't coached to lay on players to buy time?
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
I really, really don't think this is what happened
nor do I find it to be a productive line of thought.
Use Occam’s Razor here. What’s more likely: that he was coached to do that to buy time, or that he was just being a tool?
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
You're right, it is a meaningless debate,
but I still think it is more dickish to restrain another player in an effort to delay the game. One act effects the game flow and is strategic (dickish but strategic), the other is an act against another player, and as suchmuch more dickish.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
He was just delaying the game
The refs are the one at fault for not stepping in as it was obviously happening and it was an obvious situation for that to happen in.
It was dickish, but I’d consider it far less dickish than faking an injury.
Faking an injury is blatantly cheating by using a rule meant to protect players, and playing refs sympathy for players against them. It also goes against the unspoken American sporting code (especially football) of playing tough and not flopping.
Getting up awkwardly and delaying the game is just massaging the clock and forcing the refs to step in and do their job to keep the game moving. I’m completely fine with this and think it’s a smart move.
By "it was dickish"
I meant the way he did it, by straddling LMJ, not the delaying. The delaying is just “meh” on the scale of dickishness and expected.
Look at it like this
In order for Oregon to succeed in the future, USC needs to be good for the SEC homers. And like I said, the LMJ was bush league, but at least they weren’t trying to hurt him. And for crying out loud of course the SC players were going to be fired up for this game. With their sanctions and all, and the reduction of scholarships, it’s all they got. Because in all honesty the Pac-12 sucks this year in my honest opinion. Stanford is wayyy overrated
Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.
by RA37thriller on Nov 20, 2011 12:11 AM PST up reply actions
Just because we dislike USC doesn't mean we don't want them to be good.
Overrated or not, beating UW and ‘furd in their houses wouldn’t be nearly as fun if they were the doormats they were in the middle and late ’00s.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
The reasons I hate USC:
The way that even though OSU, OSU, and OSU exist, OMG SOUTH CAROLINA CANNOT ALSO BE USC AND WE WILL SUE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN. The “They wish they were all Trojans” attitude. The “Pete Carroll is so classy” meme. (He’s not particularly unclassy. But shouting “F*** you” at Mike Belotti after MB challenged his challenge? Ripping into Sanchez declaring? Going for two after Neuheisel called timeout?* Anyone who said or says that Pete Carroll is classy needs to be repeatedly kicked in the leg for sheer idiocy.) The obsessive hype that USC gets that makes East Coast Bias a laughable concept (for a dose of reality, call it Big Market Bias).
*I found this hilarious. It was not, however, classy. Also hilarious-but-not-classy: going for two just to hang 50 on USC. Even hilariouser: not getting the two, but hitting 50 anyway by scoring another TD.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 1:28 AM PST up reply actions
Err…going for the bomb after Neuheisel called timeout. My footnote was already in my head.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 1:29 AM PST up reply actions
The "They wish they were all Trojans" attitude.
Well consider where the school is located. Everyone in LA has the “They wish they all lived in LA attitude.” So I’m not really surprised that they are like that.
It’s a legit reason to dislike them though. One of the many reasons why I can’t stand the Lakers too other than the fact that they are pure evil incarnate.
by Jonathan Wright on Nov 20, 2011 1:32 AM PST up reply actions
I’ll go with that; I’m not saying it’s surprising.
Also, I’ve been to both NYC and LA, and have zero desire to live in either of them, despite the residents’ delusional “Everyone wants to be here.” attitudes.
"This season of Ole Miss football is a reminder to talk to your family now about what to do if you're in a persistent vegetative state." ~@celebrityhottub
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 1:38 AM PST up reply actions
When I lived in LA, I was always happy to hear someone didn’t want to live there – they don’t really need more people. I’d live in New York in a heartbeat… The main thing is to where you’re happy after all.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Sure. I’m not talking about people liking where they live. I’m talking about projecting onto “everyone else” that they clearly must also want to live where you live, are sad that they don’t, and are jealous of you for the fact that you do live there. Citywise, I’ve mostly seen it from LA and NYC. Statewise, I’ve mostly seen it from Texas and California (although, on that latter, the two states I’ve lived in bordered those two).
"This season of Ole Miss football is a reminder to talk to your family now about what to do if you're in a persistent vegetative state." ~@celebrityhottub
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Point of clarification
South Carolina tried to trademark SC on athletic gear. We’ve been playing football longer than they have under that name / abbreviation. (South Carolina has had about 5 names changes over its history.) If South Carolina doesn’t like the result, they should have hired better lawyers.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Because, once a lawsuit is won, it’s immediate evidence that the people who won it weren’t assholes?
I’m not saying that they don’t have that legal claim. I’m saying that I hate the university because it’s an asshole move to exercise that legal claim.
"This season of Ole Miss football is a reminder to talk to your family now about what to do if you're in a persistent vegetative state." ~@celebrityhottub
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
Read that again
South Carolina started it by trying to stop SC.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
LOL Sakerlina.
That’s the extent of my opinion on the subject.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
And yet it’s still true that the incident ended with South Carolina unable to put the thing they wanted on their baseball caps. Until they can, or at least until it isn’t Southern Cal stopping them, the AD in California are assholes
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 2:34 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I think at this point you just want to be mad at SC, which is absolutely your prerogative.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
by DC Trojan on Nov 20, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
BTW, if you’re looking for something SC did start, the effort to “persuade” the University of Santa Clara to change their name to Santa Clara University would be a good place to start. I’m not saying we’re not a pain in the ass, I just don’t cry for people with bad trademark lawyers.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
I think you’re confused. I’m not angry or butthurt about it. I just see two universities I have no attachment to, beyond the fact that one is in the conference of one of my teams and the other is in the conference of my other team, and University A can’t use a legitimate abbreviation for themselves because of University B, and I go “Huh. University B is being assholes. I don’t like them.”
It’s like seeing a bully beat someone else up for their lunch money. I don’t have to be the one being beat up to see that they’re a bully.
"This season of Ole Miss football is a reminder to talk to your family now about what to do if you're in a persistent vegetative state." ~@celebrityhottub
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
If they've got good trademark lawyers, it's not a dick move* though.
*Any unauthorized use of the Musgrave trademarked “dick move” will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Euler's #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Nov 20, 2011 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
This sounds like very typical trademark defense.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
Okay. Then USC is assholes because they want to be USC, Inc.
"This season of Ole Miss football is a reminder to talk to your family now about what to do if you're in a persistent vegetative state." ~@celebrityhottub
by AllSaintsDay on Nov 21, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Im probably going to look like an idiot for this
But is Beard back from injury and not taking FGs? I looked all over the web and couldnt find it. I know he was injured earlier in the year but couldnt find anything about him being back. I saw a RG article before the Furd game saying he was back
He's been kicking the ball off since Washington.
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Ok so that other article RG was right about him kicking it off.
I saw summary but was too slow to load so I didnt see the date and assumed it was last year. Maldonado still taking kicks means Beard isnt back in the flow yet? Its only been 2 weeks since he’s back so that makes sense
Leads me to believe that Maldonado is the more accurate kicker.
And we aren’t all that interested in who’s got the bigger leg, since we’re going for it on 4th instead of kicking long FGs most of the time anyway.
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I didnt say I was interested in the bigger leg. That wasn't the issue on that kick and has only been a couple times.
Beard has been a pretty reliable kicker, 75% here at UO. My question is: is Maldonado the more accurate kicker or is he just more accurate right now because Beard is coming off an injury. Regardless it’s a tough situation for a kicker to be in who’s only kicked 10 FG’s all here and has title game hopes riding on his shoulders. I completely agree with your article above we shouldn’t have been in that situation in the first place.
I don't think we'd be starting an inferior kicker.
So Maldonado is the better kicker right now.
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I would hope we wouldnt start an inferior kicker.
I said above that its only been 2 weeks so it makes sense beard may not be in top form. I guess Im just curious what if beard wasn’t injured. Oh well its a tough loss but Im looking forward to two more games at autzen. Win those and then im looking forward to flying south for the RB
Just rolled in from Autzen
Ducks season long sloppy play caught up with them tonight. Against teams where they had the advantage athletically, they could overcome the dropped balls, poorly thrown balls, etc. Not against USC who is every bit as fast as Oregon and bigger.
Proud of the way they fought back, but we just got our asses kicked tonight, despite the close score. Again, the WR’s let us down, not just with some dropped balls, but they could not block the DB’s to give the RB’s the room they are used to having. No big scoring plays for the Ducks tonight (except DAT’s incredible return).
Darron really needs to work on being consistently accuracy. The difference between his passing and Barkley’s was dramatic.
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Beware, flyduckfly,
that particular topic is being energetically “debated” above you.
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by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 12:15 AM PST up reply actions
Methinks that is the genesis of his post.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:16 AM PST up reply actions
Honestly, I'm beat, just rolled in the door
and haven’t read any other part of this thread. Just had to put in my 2 cents. And there’s not much room for debate. We got manhandled, and Chip blew it with the clock management.
I understand the theory that stopping the clock gives the defense time to set up. That’s true. But you can’t win the game with no time left. It’s over when it hits zero. He got caught between going for the win and then bailing at the end when he didn’t leave enough time and settled for the FG attempt.
No point in being too upset. They guys fought back out of a huge hole and it would have been the most epic comeback. But it wasn’t to be.
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Yeah....
With a better kicker I would have been find with the clock management.
Agreed
I think part of my big problem was that the kick wasn’t automatic – even at ‘closer’ range. If we had Beard that’d be one thing, but it didn’t feel like it was a gimme no matter what.
And with that, I figured that we had to start getting it into the end zone if we were going to have a chance – because we couldn’t risk having him kick FGs in overtime to tie or win it either.
But we didn’t have time for that.
There was enough time to play for the win.
We had to settle for kick because we didn’t preserve any time.
Who knows what happens in overtime anyways, if the kick were made.
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Football Study Hall (I think) posted pace numbers, and we were pretty low (IIRC, actually slightly below the expected number of plays per game for our run-pass ratio). I wonder if we’re letting up off the gas pedal this season, and that’s keeping us from gaining the advantage over more talented opponents we’d have had last year.
(Not saying I think this is the case, just an idle 1:43 am thought)
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 1:43 AM PST up reply actions
Feels true to me.
Feels like a conscious decision by Chip actually. Darron checks the play at the line an awful lot this year, particularly at LSU, seems like he’s been coached to observe what the defense lines up with and alter the play based on that, which then of course slows the pace. And it seems to me when we do up the pace, those are our best offensive series.
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by Bill Musgrave on Nov 20, 2011 7:21 AM PST up reply actions
We're also subbing a lot more
Whenever we sub we must allow the other team to sub, so that’s 15-20 seconds per play. We’re not doing the super speed. I suspect if you looked at our pace through three quarters we’d be faster than average but nothing like last year’s breakneck pace.
That's really interesting because I've noticed all year
we are not playing at that quick pace for sustained periods. I thought against USC we would have to to negate their athleticism.
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Well, so... Happy Civil War Week.
We get to lick our wounds and take out frustration on the worst Beaver teams since 28 Straight. I’m going to go out on a limb and make a bold prediction – the Ducks will win.
Then, Pac-12 Championship a week later. Ducks would face either Ucla (6 – 6), ASU (7 – 5), or Utah (8 – 4). Unless Ucla beats USC, in which case they would be 7 – 5. Good news for the conference is that Ucla is the only potential champ who could be knocked entirely out of the bowl lineup by a CCG loss.
Win that game, and the Rose Bowl would be against one of three teams – Wingus division champ Michigan State, or Dingus division champ Wisconsin/ Penn State, those two deciding the division in a winner-take-all game next weekend. On a worry scale, Wisconsin scares me the most. Penn State scares me the least. I’d prefer to play Michigan State. And please, Big Ten, for the love of everything, do not allow Penn State to go to the Rose Bowl.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Ignoring the FG miss at the end that was by far my favorite game at Autzen.
The atmosphere was amazing during the comeback. Everything was falling into place, the returned kick off, the pick, the fumble, DATs td. I think 80% of the students fell off the benches from the combination of excitement, wet benches, and being drunk after the fumble recovery. From the student section it didnt look like it missed by much but thats just because of our angle. Autzen was great tonight though during that comeback it was amazing.
Well, at least Josh Huff can clap after a dropped pass
I guess as is well.
Where are the Oregon receivers?
I miss having studs like Howry and Williams and Parker. It feels like our receiving corps just gets weaker and weaker each year; Maehl was the best in a long time and he was a safety to start out with.
Are we not doing a good job of making this a good place for receivers? Or are our receivers just learning the stone hands martial arts technique?
Really though...
blackmon and sumler must not be very good.
I'm thinking we keep their RS's intact
personally, I’m looking for a huge boost in our receiving corps next year. Not having a deep threat this year really hurt us, and losing Maehl as our possession receiver hurt our short game. I was green with envy watching Lee go up and make those amazing plays against our frosh corners.
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by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 1:10 AM PST up reply actions
I think we will as well
But im just thinking…Vaughn and Hawkins have sure had their issues….and I assume Blackmon and Sumler looked worse than them (or else they probably wouldnt be redshirting) The potential is there for sure….but we really need some WRs with sure hands.
Probably part of it is learning the scheme
Lyerla and DAT are the only frosh I know of playing on O. Colt had a couple more months with the offense because he graduated early, but we still don’t see too much of him. DAT’s just a football genius.
We thought Tuinei, Vaughn, and Hawkins were enough to win us the game, seeing as how they’ve all had a decent enough season thus far. Don’t forget, our backups to them were Hoffman and shudder Murphy.
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by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 1:20 AM PST up reply actions
Don't forget size.
Chip wants them to be great blockers first, so redshirting them helps then not only with the playbook, but a full year with coach Rad to make them blocking beast.
And Anthony Wallace
for one or two series.
But the WR’s not only dropped balls last night, they couldn’t get on or sustain their blocks very well. A big reason we didn’t have any long scoring runs.
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That is an extraordinary assertion.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
the thing that really bothers me about this loss...
Other than the fact that we lost, is the fact that USC isn’t allowed in the Pac-12 Championship game. Because we all know they’d be in it if they were allowed to and it just kind of bothers me that we’ll end up having to play a team like UCLA or ASU instead.
But I guess there really is no point in being upset over it because there isn’t anything that can be done about. Just got to shake this off and win the next one.
by Jonathan Wright on Nov 20, 2011 1:20 AM PST reply actions
If we played them a second time
do you think we end up winning? It’d be at Autzen again.
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by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 1:21 AM PST up reply actions
I don't know if we would.
We might, but they are obviously and incredibly talented team. I do not look forward to the game next year. It’ll be a bloodbath.
by Jonathan Wright on Nov 20, 2011 1:24 AM PST up reply actions
Not sure that's the case
If memory serves, where it is is depending on which team had the better record. I guess they’d have two in-conference loses and we’d have one, but guess it depends on the final game.
If we played them again I think we’d go uptempo earlier and not dick around quite so much, but I also think that they’d not be so tentative with their offense early on and they’d go to Lee early and often. Remember, both teams turned the ball over quite a bit, both did so in very costly situations. I’d still give the edge to Oregon, but I still think that this is a very bad matchup for Oregon in general and it’s not nearly the advantage that Stanford was.
I'm more wondering how much playing Stanford AND Washington the two previous weekends had to do with it.
The team came out uncharacteristically sloppy. Slow and overexcited(DT) we’ve seen, but the plethora of mistakes just seems to suggest something more. It wouldn’t surprise me that this game fulfilled all the requirements of a TRAP game, since we’d just beaten our hated rival AND the overrated #4 in back-to-back away games.
I’m thinking we would do much better after a week “off” with OSU in Autzen.
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by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 1:44 AM PST up reply actions
Rough way to lose...
But the Ducks didn’t deserve the win. They played like absolute crap at just about every position for 3 quarters. USC played exceptionally. Props to the Trojans. Oh well, doesn’t affect Rose Bowl chances.
For a bit of good memories, here’s video of David Paulson being a total badass.
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Paulson and Barner
really manned up. Their play is something to be proud of.
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we Will deeeeply miss David next year...
He is a stud
ssshhh....
by OregOnDucks on Nov 20, 2011 8:41 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Colt's shown some flashes though
pity he was injured so early in the season.
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by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
My thoughts exactly....Matt Barkley was absolutely on fire and in that way it reminded me of the 2009 Stanford game.
If we really were the #2 team in the country, we would have come out with some focus on offense. Once again, our WR showed why we have arguably one of the worst receiving corps in the conference.
A heck of a game
Frankly I wasn’t expecting the result. Hopefully you guys will batter the Beavers and send some group of slow big televen chumps home with a Puddles-shaped footprint on their mascot’s ass.
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by DC Trojan on Nov 20, 2011 7:01 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
30 more seconds it would have been a amazing game.
But USC is getting back. Still Kiffin is being incredibly restrained and tolerable. Good luck next year with a new QB (hopefully), and see you in the Pac12CG in Eugene.
Hear hear.
Thanks for showing your class around here this week. Well deserved win.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 20, 2011 8:01 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
:)
After sleeping on it… Feels better about it today. Matt just had an amazing game and so did his receivers. Our D line just didn’t seem to get that break all bight and out o-line and WRs didn’t block very well. Was almost like they underestimated the Trojans. We need better, bigger and faster WRs that can actually catch a ball and fight for more if needed. Something felt wrong before the game and when CK said something so out of character before the game I felt like that was it…
Off to kick some Beaver ass and hopefully the Ducks show up for 4 quarters next year and not just one. A little to late.
Go Ducks!
GG and WP Trojans.
ssshhh....
by OregOnDucks on Nov 20, 2011 8:08 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Thanks for the classy response, DC Trojan.
It would appear that rumors of USC’s demise have been greatly exaggerated.
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by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
We shall see
The next three to five years are going to be tough…. worst case scenario is that this is more of a false dawn, but if that is the case, at least these kids are going down swinging.
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Thanks DC
It’s been good having you around this week. Enjoy your weasel stomping week.
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I hope the team doesn't get cocky
The Bruins can surely smell an upset in the offing – we shouldn’t lose that game, but college football is unpredictable because really, it’s a bunch of teenagers running amok.
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by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Headlines like this:
George Schroeder: Oregon writes itself out of championship conversation
bother me.
I know it’s been said before, but I think it’s safe to assume that most Duck Fans realized the NCG was such a long shot that most didn’t really dwell on that. The conference championship is well within our grasp and the trip to the Rose Bowl that comes with it. I think that is what Duck fans are focused on.
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So much football to be played
We were clearly in the conversation until last night, even if not favored to go had we win out.
Except at the top spot this is playing out very much like 2007. Three of the top seven lost in the span of one day.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 20, 2011 9:15 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I’m with HRD. I doubt we wrote ourselves out of the championship. But it’s fair to say we wrote ourselves out of the conversation.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
It's all this "hand-wringing" in the media that bothers me.
Fuck the BCS. We can’t control it. We CAN win the conference and go to the Rose Bowl.
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Coaches poll is out
1. LSU 2. Bama 3. Ark 4. Va Tech 5. Stanford 6. OK St 7. Houston 8. Boise 9. Oregon 10. Mich St
VaTech is the biggest outrage there — got hammered by Clemson and only “quality win” is Georgia Tech. But one-loss teams tend to just drift up in these things.
And as much as I hate seeing us behind Boise, it’s probably a coin toss. Will be interesting to see the AP votes.
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Top three SEC East
Excuse me while I vomit in my mouth repeatedly.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 20, 2011 9:10 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
It's like a self fulfilling prophecy
I’ll be a toothless SEC honk in no time.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 20, 2011 9:19 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
It will allow you to be more empathetic towards your "frequent flyer" patients.
They’ll look at you and say “One of us!”
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by HoodRiverDuck on Nov 20, 2011 10:46 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Heading for the least-watch NCG ever?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Well, a few wounds to lick, and hangover to Nurse, but in the end I think we'll be alright!
But really amongst all this we did miss one bright note!
The Fuskies got beat by the Biebers!
For Oregon, King Kelly, and St Quack!
Other thoughts after yesterday: Every season can't be perfect.
- In a way I am happy this is a season we are not “100%”. Despite what many people think, this is a very young football team. I think we have like 10 seniors on the team, granted a few Jrs. will leave too, but still. We are getting invaluable experience to a young football team. I believe you can’t fully understand how to be a winner unless you have experienced a few losses. Makes you not take things for granted.
- I am very hopeful that our WR corps will be better next year. Only thing I want to see improve is DT’s throwing technique. He has a thing for throwing the ball high at times when he doesn’t need to, forcing our WR to jump to catch, land and then take off.
- Barner looks really really good and I think we will have a solid running corps next year as well.
For now I am very happy that we still have an opportunity to earn our way to the Rose Bowl and for once, I think we might have a really good shot at winning it.
- I see this loss as a blessing in disguise… I didn’t want to loose but I was very worried about us going to the Natty again.. IN NEW ORLEANS. Another home field advantage to a very very good team. I think it would be more humiliating showing up in the natty twice and going home with a second place than going to the Rose Bowl and actually winning it.
Go Ducks and let’s go stuff some Beavers. I got really pissed yesterday when many of my wife’s facebook friends (Beaver fans) were taunting the Ducks, laughing and saying stupid shit. Come Saturday hopefully our team will shut them up. AGAIN.
ssshhh....
Huff will really need to step up next year
and hopefully the WRs blocking will improve.
Huff
I will say that Huff’s preseason injury extending into the season really set him back both just with himself and in timing with Thomas. If healthy next year he should have a much better season.
This
He’s only started to look like himself the last 3-4 games.
He’s still been dropping a couple passes each game though..
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Which, one might argue,
is Huff looking like Huff.
He was recruited as an athlete. WR isn’t really his natural position. To be fair, though, he has made some great snags this year too.
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Didn't he do that same thing last year?
I’ve never really thought of Huff as having the best hands. Don’t get me wrong, he makes some amazing catches, but he drops some really easy ones too. The difference is he has a bunch of other dropsie magnets around him too this year.
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Yesterday my brother and I
were commenting that it seems like he can’t catch anything in the first half of games, and then spends the second half redeeming himself.
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So I know the playcalling debate is raging above, but I wanted to mention that swing pass to the flat when we only had 12 seconds or so left on the clock
That play made no sense from a number of standpoints, which made me think that Darron may have checked down.
It was completely a check down, and Tui
made a bad play by trying to make a move on the guy and get up field. He needed to get to the sideline and get out.
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meh
same as him throwing it out of bounds. It wasn’t the greatest play, but it really didn’t cost Oregon anything with that little time left on the clock. If anything it finally forced Kelly to use a god damn time out
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It cost two yards and more time.
If we just throw it out of bounds we take less time and we’re not forced to run to the middle of the field on the last play, meaning we have another shot downfield. And we don’t have to use a timeout instead.
Regardless of whether it was equivalent to throwwing out of bounds, we shouldn’t be throwing out of bounds either. It was a confusing, bad call.
Disagree...with that much time left you have to throw in up the field in some manner. It actually would have been better is LT had dropped that.
That’s on DT to know the situation and act accordingly. Also I know it’s been a while since Kelly had to use TO’s in an end game situation, but we probably lost at least 15-20 seconds from about 1:15 on that could have been prevented.
Yep. There is no excuse for not using a TO when DT was sacked
the WR looked gasses on that next play cause they had to run all the way back to the LOS. In the stands people were screaming for him to use a timeout. I also think he should have used it on defense and saved even more time.
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Exactly what I was thinking as well....it really looked like we were playing for a field goal midway through that drive which confused the fuck out of me
I had absolutely no faith in our kicker hitting a long FG to tie the game
No faith
I know Kelly had faith, but I hate playing for the tie. Someone said it best, if we didn’t get that 2 point conversion we play for a touchdown and that series is totally different.
Definitely a game of what could have been.
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And that’s what kills me today. I keep replaying those moments in my mind.
Darron’s pass to a wide open DAT at the end of the half that sailed a little, and DAT not making sure he stayed in bounds.
Subsequently, LMJ’s fumble.
Vaughn’s drop on a screen where he was wide open.
Huff’s drop on a third down in the third quarter where he almost certainly would have picked up a first and the Ducks desperately needed points.
Darron keeping on a read option, where if he’d given to LMJ, he might STILL be running (it may have been the correct read – Perry made a great play – but man…).
Chip Kelly using that last timeout.
Maldonado…
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Championship level teams don't leave that many "what ifs" out on the field
Oregon is damn good team this year, but this game magnified some of critical flaws with this team, mainly consistency.
We all knew they were there.
We were all worried about Woods and Lee for certain.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Woods and Lee going off still wouldn't have mattered if our offensive wasn't shooting itself in the foot every oppurtunity
I know USC had a great gameplan but we had plenty of opportunities to make plays.
The receiver play certainly can be termed "inconsistent."
I don’t know that the turnovers can, but they were the real killers, especially LMJ’s derp in the red zone just before the half.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
The TO's and the dropped passes prevents the offense from getting into a rhythm
As good as USC’s defense was , Oregon’s offense with some momentum is better.
Well, sure.
But my point was our receiver play has been inconsistent at best while coughing up the ball hadn’t been a huge issue other than LSU. Err, outside of the “muffed punt” early in the season.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Ever since LMJ's elbow injury,
he has been spinning unnecessarily prior to contact. Sometimes it works, sometimes he spins in anticipation of a hit that doesn’t come and it screws him up (against Stanford he did this and Campbell pulled him immediately).
That was another unnecessary spin that contributed to his fumble.
My parents believed in me.
Yeah, that run where he spun 180 and backed into contact was bizaree.
Against ’furd.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
I've said all year
this team didn’t look like a championship team to me. This loss hurts because he tripped on our own shlong so often and still had a chance, but it’s really not that surprising considering how often this year we just didn’t look dominant.
Good learning experience for some of the young guys though.
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Yup.
There was talk in here almost all year long about how ’12 seems to be shaping up as a possibly “special” year while this had the feeling of a transition season.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
Well said. This was a typical youth game, and honestly, we learn a lot more by losing this game by winning it. It will make the team better moving forward.
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Darron keeping on a read option, where if he’d given to LMJ, he might STILL be running (it may have been the correct read – Perry made a great play – but man…).
That was one of the more astounding single defensive efforts I’ve seen a player make. Darron made the right read, but his reaction was jaw dropping.
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I'm kind of wondering why
DEs aren’t taught to fake a crash down on the RB more often. Get Darren to read and keep, then go after him.
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by Brass-billed on Nov 20, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions
Because that takes some amazing footwork
for a 6 foot plus 250 plus pound D lineman when they are normally taught to rush up field or crash down. It goes against natural lineman training which as a coach you’d never want to spend time teaching your players to do.
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It was the exact same as LSU pretty much
The other team played a great game, but the reason we lost was us shooting all of our bullets into our own foot.
There's a difference though.
Cleaning up the derp gives us a CHANCE to play with LSU while cleaning up the derp against SC gives us the advantage.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Weren't playing for the tie per se.
I guess you could say he was hedging a little because he had the luxury of the tie as a fallback, but he pushed that last drive until it stalled, THEN played for the 3.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
He didn't manage the clock like he was going for a win.
I think we were around midfield when the playcalling and time management got shockingly conservative.
Shockingly conservative is using all his timeouts.
He was going with what was working, It stopped working.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Using all your time outs has nothing to do with being conservative
It has everything to giving your team more plays.
It didn't become obvious that Kelly should have gone for the win
until I saw the Oregon field goal unit lined up. You could see how uncomfortable they were.
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Yup and that's why that last drive was so confusing.
Bottom line Oregon played like garbage for three quarters and had no business even being that close.
And i didn't even hope for the win, I just wanted a closer field goal
Kelly and DT were making some really strange decisions to make sure that didn’t happen
Maldo had a rough couple of weeks prior to this game.
OTOH he hadn’t missed anything under 40 yards all season.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
Not a single person I've talked to about the game felt good about that FG
Especially with his struggles the last couple weeks.
Can't say it didn't make me nervous.
But at the time my adrenaline was trying to convince me he couldn’t miss.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
When opposing fans can tell that our FG unit didn't look comfortable something is wrong.
Two other people I was watching the game with made the same exact observation
How is that not "conservative?"
Remember is was Kiffin who finally cried “uncle” and called a time out because the SC defense had shown no more ability to stop us in that drive than they had on the previous two. It seemingly backfired when Barner ran for 9 on the following play, But conversely it allowed Chip to implement what turned out to be some questionable plays shortly thereafter. But the idea was to run the offense and force USC to stop it. I don’t know if it was stubbornness or what that kept him from calling another TO between the SC TO and the one he finally called or simply confidence in what he was seeing on the field.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
That strategy is great when there is more than 1:00 left on the clock.
Problem was that we lost about 15-20 seconds due to not calling TO’s
We'll never know why.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed,
that it was a terrible decision by Tunei….our WR’s were trying to put moves on USC’s corners, who are too good and fast for that.
But, knowing that, Thomas should have thrown the ball away. Thomas made some bad decisions and throws down the stretch that cost us.
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C*nz*no is blaming the loss on Cliff Harris.
Seriously, what can you say about the things that pass for “journalism” nowadays?
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meh
It’s not like the team hasn’t had ample time to get used to playing without him. I could say the same thing about Javis Lewis. If he hadn’t made a dumb decision to go to the NFL early we would have had a completely different secondary. It’s stupid to piss and moan about what we didn’t have in the game instead of looking at what we did and how they didn’t get it done.
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You have to admit his absence hurt big-time
SC’s receivers made our dbs look silly at times. I personally was far more worried about this game than the Furd game, once it was clear that Owusu wouldn’t play, simply because of SC’s receivers and our youth in the defensive backfield…
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by soddruntlestuntle on Nov 20, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions
And if he had suffered a season ending physical injury, would we have seen an entire column bemoaning the injury?
It’s just sensationalism. Shouldn’t expect anything else, but I wish we could.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
Canzano gets paid to stir the pot
Which you have to admit sometimes he does quite well…
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by soddruntlestuntle on Nov 20, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
It's just too bad he can't be more original.
This is like DEVO singing about mongoloids.
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Agreed.
Blaming Harris is like shooting fish in a barrel.
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by soddruntlestuntle on Nov 20, 2011 11:39 AM PST up reply actions
It adds nothing to the conversation
It’s the same as Capt Moron showing up after the game and saying, “see Chip Kelly can’t win the big game.” They’re both trolls and don’t bring anything useful to the conversation.
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Can't assume they couldn't make plays with Cliff in.
And Owusu isn’t really much of a threat.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
He doesn't actually know anything about football so why be surprised?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldnt blame anything on Cliff Harris,
But Gildon is the real large loss. I sure wish that we knew for a fact why he hasnt been playing.
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Such bullshit,
as if Cliff is infallible. Cliff fucks up just as much as the next guy. He makes some big plays, but takes risks too.
My parents believed in me.
That is just stupid. We lost fair and square. To blame it on the absence of one person is ridiculous.
There was one tasteless, classless incident which still has me seeing red, but that had no bearing on the outcome of the game.
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by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Also was anybody else yelling at Kiko Alonso the entire game for being out of position and taking horrible angles
For as highly touted as he was going into the season Alonso might get passed up by Anthony Wallace next year.
I know our secondary got burned
and really someone needs to check Troy Hill for scars this morning. But our linebackers played their worst game of the year. Alonso was out of position routinely, Clay was slow on edges and left drop off guys open so many times for easy first downs, Kaddu NEVER got pressure on Barkley, and no one really stepped up and filled the gaps on the power run plays.
I watched the game again last night and the LBs looked terrible. Again the secondary wasn’t great, but then again you give any QB 20 minutes to throw and no pressure to Lee and Woods and no secondary is going to look good.
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which is funny
because I thought our defense was going to be up to the challenge after the first few USC possessions… They were doing a good job covering the screen… then it seemed like everything collapsed and they got sloppy.
ssshhh....
by OregOnDucks on Nov 20, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions
Screen was fine, run was fine
But barkley didn’t go deep in any of those first few drives.
Then he did, and we were hosed. It was as simple as that. As soon as we revealed we couldn’t cover Lee for a damn, our defense changed. Our safeties couldn’t play the run, so they could run better. We hadd to get pressure on Barkley as our only defense, so their short passes and screens worked better.
So yeah, that was all down to us sucking on Lee coverage. Which is something we’ve done against #1 WRs this year every single game. he was just the best we’ve seen and the best QB with the best WR we’ve seen.
Our Offense kept on putting them in bad situations until USC realized that Oregon could not get any pressure on Barkley
They also targeted Troy Hill from the get go and for good reason. He looked completely lost out there.
Stanford did the same thing
Hill has to step up if he’s going to be out there more. Boyett was pretty much used as a safety for Hill and we can’t have that.
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Actually Hill played better coverage most of the time than most think.
Several times he simply got out-jumped or out-adjusted while playing decent coverage. Yeah, he did get burned a couple times but he wasn’t wandering around in a fog. At any rate, no pressure on Barkley plus giving up 7 yard runs seemingly on every freaking first down were the more glaring problems IMO.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
The no pressure thing was what got me. We needed to get to Barkley. Our d-line and LBs failed our DBs in the passing game. You give Barkley, Woods, and Lee that much time and something is going to happen.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
LB's were in some weird no-man's-land.
The run game apparently frightened and mystified them.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Losing Dion Jordan and Stucky really hurt us
Alonso along with Cliff harris has to be one of the biggest disappointments of the year for me.
Losing Stuckey and Jordan early did hurt a lot
Alonso has been hit or miss. He really looks like he’s suffered from having to take that year off. I’m afraid we’ll say the same for Harris if he comes back next year too.
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I want no part of Harris next year
one year of of the “what if’s” is enough.
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Stuckey left the field after the first quarter.
He wasnt limping or anything like that, so I would guess that he got something such as a concussion. Losing Stuckey probably hurt us. Alonso and Wallace arent ready to play against USC (Wallace did make one very nice play, though).
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Shoulder
he came off in the first series with his arm hanging low. Jordan limped off early too with what looked like a stinger in his hip, or leg.
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Hard to play linebacker
when you defensive line is getting shoved backwards into your face.
My parents believed in me.
It's not just that.
When SC started showing they could run, the LB’s seemed to get stuck between run and pass coverage, taking them out of the game. And I didn’t see the DL getting shoved back as much as I saw them stood up and unable to do anything.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 1:36 PM PST up reply actions
The LB's were placed in a no-win situation
Oregon’s D Line was getting blown off the ball, and our DB’s were getting beat deep, and over the middle. The LB’s couldn’t do one or the other. Aliotti’s quote says it all:
"We were behind the 8-ball a lot in a sense that … there were too many second-and-fours and second-and-threes," Aliotti said. "They were able to throw the ball and they were able to run the ball. That’s just the way it was."
My seat is down low, pretty much eye level with the field. We kept looking at each other and remarking how much bigger their O-line was compared to our D line. It was a total mismatch.
My parents believed in me.
That's just it.
How many times did they get 5-8 yards on a first down run? 2nd and 2-4 all night long, is no way to win a game on D.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
As soon as the long-ball opened things up it became a real struggle.
But OTOH they scored nothing in the fourth. Strange game.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
Barkley was awesome last night, his balls were freakishly accurate, and reminded me of Luck the last time we played him on the Farm. This really softened up our run defense. Once it became clear Barkley was ON TARGET, it was a lose/lose proposition for our defense.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Actually on a few of those plays his throws were off-target and even "interceptable."
Lee if an effing freak of nature and I wish he had decided that Farmer was going to be the main guy opposite of Woods and come here instead.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know how Wallace played the rest of the game
But he did have that nice stop in the backfield when USC was at our like 3 yard line.
I yelled at him on a couple of plays for missing tackles.
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by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Worst Gameday ever
I get home from the game only to find out my car got broken into, and my backpack stolen with my laptop and all my important medical documents in it. Absolutely ruined my weekend. So pissed off.
Ugh!! Sorry to hear that.
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by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
And on waking up
I felt a lot better.
Yes, our clock management was bad, and yes, we did lose a game we could have won if we play simply better or our game more. And yes, losing to USC makes me worried out our presence in the conference in the future.
At the same time, we beat Stanford. Well.
At the same time, as long as we win our last game we go to first championship game in history and have a good shot of winning our third straight Pac-10/12 championship.
At the same time, we have a good shot to go to our third BCS bowl in a row.
There aren’t many teams out there that have that kind of pedigree. That’s the sort of thing that teams like Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma and Texas want to have – and only Alabama has had similar success to that.
This is the sort of problem that 5 years ago I didn’t dream of having.
So losing to USC sucks. But it’s still one of the best seasons Oregon has ever had. And if this is our floor – having a consolation prize of the Rose Bowl? I’m okay with that.
Here's what struck me this morning
How awesome would it be to get another shot at SC 2 weeks from now in a Pac 12 champ game. I’m excited about the prospects of the P12CG being a rematch like this of 2 really good teams… once SC is off their stupid probation.
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The polls this morning are confusing.
I don’t understand the reasoning behind placing Stanford above Oregon. I suspect that if you asked most pollsters who would win a game on a neutral field, they would pick Oregon, yet they have the opposite on their ballots.
Losses trump logic.
And when losses are the same, fuck logic. For some reason we are ahead of USC in the AP poll.
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After decades of the polls being used in ways they weren't meant to be, they act weird.
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by AllSaintsDay on Nov 20, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Stanford has 1 loss, we have 2 (so going by overall body of work...reasonable).
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by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Body of work is second to common sense.
If you just watched Oregon trounce Stanford in a manner that suggests the game reflected the quality of the two teams and was not an aberration, then I don’t see how body of work should play into the ranking.
How about they just rank the best team higher? This “body of work” stuff is an end around for flawed logic.
by netminder82 on Nov 20, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, you don't need to tell me, I'm passing along the irrational objectivity (or what passes for it)
from the BCS voters.
I have no respect for the current rankings AT ALL. Personally, I’d like to see it all burn. We should be ahead of Stanford. We beat them by a mile. Yes, we have 2 losses, but the other loss was to #1 LSU. Enough said. They aren’t capable of taking schedule, opponents, etc. into the picture.
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by gamedaytribe on Nov 21, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
Nice Game My Feathered Friends
You may not get a shot at the MNC, but you should have no problem getting a Rose Bowl birth, and that ain’t bad, Good luck, see you next year.
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Thanks.
Really want that Rose Bowl WIN.
And nice game grumblegrumblegrumble.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Really wish we were playing you again in 2 two weeks
Have fun with your Weasel stomping
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Josh huff agrees that Oregon wasn't mentally ready for this game
"We weren’t mentally ready," said Huff. "We just thought we were going to come in against USC and just run over them…Our players were running around in the hallways (after Oklahoma State went down last night).
"I was laying in bed and I was really upset with them because we had a big game today. We were acting like we weren’t ready for it."
The recieving corps has really bit us in the ass at times this season.
Even in games that we win (such as Washington), there are drops all over the place. In both loses, the receivers have been neat up pretty bad by large and physical corners.
I am worried that this may drag on for at least another season. With our two most reliable receiving threats graduating after this season (Tuinei and Paulson), next year seems pretty frightening from this standpoint, too.
I sure hope that next season Huff shows he can catch easy passes, as opposed to having less trouble catching ridiculously underthrown balls with ease. hopefully DeAnthony’s development as a do everything player continues to develop, it might have to.
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Hopefully next year we commit to getting DAT touches on O
and not relying on kickoff returns to get 1/3 of his touches
Relying on DAT doesn't address the issue.
He’s being put into a “position to succeed” right now. Of course he will be given more opportunities next year, but that doesn’t address the issues at hand. Relying on one player to break off the big play every time it’s needed is a recipe for disaster.
Paulson is going to be a tough loss. LT has been inconsistent and not the reliable possession guy I was hoping he’d be. Huff just finally got healthy but seemingly can only make catches if they’re very difficult to make. DAT will work in the slot and wide. It comes down to Vaughn and the RsFr. Who can step up? Vaughn has been disappointing to me. There’s really no reason he shouldn’t be starting IMO except that he just hasn’t picked things up. It’s one thing for a true freshman to acclimate to the college game and a new offense but RV was an All-America in a top JC program which combined with his physical skills should have given him a real advantage.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
* and Lyerla.
Colt has played plenty of reps but hasn’t seen the ball much. I don’t know if that would be true if Williams hadn’t “retired” from football. 2 TE sets are common in the offense and Lyerla was the best option when healthy to play with Paulson. Again, I don’t know if he’s playing out of necessity or if he would have been getting reps even if Williams was healthy. I hope it’s the latter and that he can step in for DP the way DP stepped in for Ed Dickson.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
I simply feel that if we're going to be
throwing bubble screens, tunnel screens and smoke throws to the WR’s, we should be getting a lot more of those to DAT, as he’s almost unarguably our best player with the ball in open space. Also I have no idea why we aren’t using him as a deep threat, especially if we can get him iso’d on a LB as he has a huge speed advantage.
He had 3 deep routes last night that he was wide open and we threw the ball to him. Those were the only times we threw deep to him. He scored on one, caught one for only 15 yards because it was a poor throw by DT and the other one was a combo of a poor throw by DT and a bad job of catching it by DAT. He should’ve had 3 TD’s from those plays.
This suggests to me that we need to use him on deep routes more often, since I haven’t seen any other WR’s get open, let alone wide open, on a deep route this year except through a blown coverage.
One reason he gets wide open is the threat of the run.
I’m not saying he shouldn’t be further incorporated into the offense and get more touches as he matures as a player, I’m saying building the gameplan around him and relying on him to save your bacon isn’t the way to go. He doesn’t have the success he’s had without other dangerous players around him, without safeties hedging to keep an eye on James and Kenjon for example.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Our gameplan will always revolve around LMJ
I’m saying take shots down the field with DAT to open up other parts of the offense.
Since James and Kenjon are the only reason DAT is getting open, I’m surprised we haven’t gotten Maehl like production from a WR this year since apparently their talent or skill doesn’t matter, they just have to wait until the defense forgets about them and stacks 19 people in the box.
Memo to Schroeder
But right now, sorry, the Rose Bowl feels like hollow consolation.
Wrong. When we get tired of winning Rose Bowls, then maybe going to one will feel like hollow consolation.
My parents believed in me.
You know what else is stupid about this?
I don’t know ANYONE in their right minds that really thought we were going to the NCG again. I know the Okie St loss made it more possible, but we still just had an outside shot. I’ve had my mind on the Rose Bowl since the end of the LSU game and it’s never wandered.
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No kidding. Time for this team to move forward and get to 12 wins. If a Rose Bowl feels like a consolation for any fans, especially on a team that is playing so many true freshmen, then there are serious problems in the fanbase.
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Indeed.
I mean, I get what he’s saying. For a 24-hour period, we had actual reason to hope to get back to the natty. But (A) we still likely needed help — and I wasn’t looking forward to uttering the words “War Damn Eagle” next weekend — and (B) I had no real reason, other than chance, to think the result would have been different.
Bring on the Rose Bowl. I want to get that monkey off our backs.
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by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
Ludicrous.
After the LSU game the Rose Bowl was absolutely “The Goal.” The sudden slim chance of back-dooring into the BCSNCG didn’t fundamentally change that situation.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions
This is lame
What we were in the NCG conversation for what? a week? The after LSU the whole year the focus has been RB, NCG was just a cock tease.
Memo to Schroeder, part 2:
@GeorgeSchroeder Agreed. RT @InsideUSC: Pat Haden after last night’s emotional victory over Oregon: ``Lane Kiffin should be coach of the year.’’
What a stupid comment to agree with. Really? USC has the most 4 and 5 star talent in the conference. By Far! All a coach for USC has to do is not fuck it up. Which the Kiffens really haven’t done so far this year.
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I don't agree with you
I’m not saying that Kiffin should be coach of the year, although he should be up there. But he’s done more than “just not fuck it up.” This is a team with nothing to play for. Yet they’ve worked hard and improved each week this year. This is not the same team that almost lost to Minnesota. They are young, inexperienced (just like Oregon) and have improved tremendously without any hope of playing any post season games.
Sure they have good athletes, but Kiffin is largely responsible for that too with his recruiting.
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They have an AP national championship to play for
And the ability to send a giant eff you to the Pac-12 and NCAA as well. That along with school pride should be enough to motivate a team. They had plenty to play for at the start of the season.
If you got COTY for simply motivating a team to take the field, Mike Riley should win it every year. The Beavs had faaaar less to play for after week 1, let alone week 4 or 5 and have improved just as much as USC with again faaaar less talent. I don’t see any top 10 NFL picks on their team.
I guess, to state my opinion more clearly,
is that USC has the deepest stable of highest recruited athletes in the conference. Most any coach could be 8-2 with that group.
Those that stayed, and those that signed knowing the NCAA situation knew what they were getting into so I don’t really buy the “they have nothing to play for” notion. They play to win games and beat rivals, like Oregon.
I guess I feel “COY” should go to someone who innovates or overachieves with inferior talent. Kiffen does neither.
My parents believed in me.
USC has the deepest stable of highest recruited athletes in the conference.
Wrong, sorry. And it hasn’t been true since 2009. Are they talented, yes. Is there depth? No. Matt Kalil might be a top 5 pick. His backup? A walk-on. Three freshman starters at LB. Walk-ons and former walk-ons who only got schollies because so many people transferred out that we could give them away are getting significant minutes at CB, FB, LB.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
I believe that USC has something like 64
4 and 5 star recruits on their roster compared to Oregon’s 36?
This is just a best guess based on something I read in the week leading up to the game. If someone has that actual number I would love to have it.
Depth? I can see that there is some youth, but that doesn’t mean lack of depth. Some guys are young, and if you can walk on at USC, you can play.
Oregon starts freshman CB’s who are backed up by other young players. I’d say they have depth, despite being young and inexperienced. Having no depth means that the guys rotating in aren’t good. And that’s not the case with USC.
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I don' t know where the journalists covering this beat (Schroeder, C**) etc get their info from.
I, for one, will be extraordinarily relieved and delighted to win the PAC-12 North, forget about the PAC-12 Conference Title. I’ll be ecstatic if we get to the Rose Bowl and if we win it — oh my god. I will have the same insanely excited and delirious feeling I did when we beat the Beavs in 2009 and made it to the RB. Christmas will have come early in this household (2012) if that happens.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Schroeder and Clowny aren't "journalists."
They’re “columnists.” They aren’t bound by journalistic standards (such as they are anymore) to be objective, dispassionate, or even factual.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
When they say things about “duck fans” (what we think/feel/say), they are basing that off what the people who call Canzano’s show say. Or what people who email Schroeder say. That is obviously a flawed way of determining what duck fans, as a whole, think. First of all the sample size is extremely limited. Secondly, the type of person who calls/emails is typically a certain type of person and doesn’t represent the entire fan base. It’s nonsense, but it is all too convenient for them because those people normally either agree with them and support whatever argument they are making, or disagree with them so strongly that they take time and energy to call/email and often end up looking extreme (which they then easily twist to show homerism). They are annoying but I have chosen to simply ignore them. The ONLY…I repeat, OOONNNLLLYYY way it will ever change is if they stop getting so many page views. If we all have the discipline to not click their links EVER that’s the only way to have an impact. The newspapers make money online off advertising. Online ads work off of pure number of views. So they will continue to be successful in their job if they get clicks/page views by any means necessary. I see people writing comments on those writers’ sites and just shake my head because people don’t realize that they are feeding the beast by even going to the page.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Nov 20, 2011 2:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This!
Even the supposedly better ones are crazy occasionally. Here is Ken Goe:
.The path to the "natty" looked wide open after Iowa State stunned No. 2 Oklahoma State in double overtime Friday night, but USC (9-2, 6-2) wouldn’t let it happen
Really? Wide Open? Have you forgotten we were still below Bama? And Brad Edwards was predicting that we would not get past them unless were were voted #2 over Bama which was never going to happen? Who in the world would characterize that as “wide open”?
I didn’t think we had a shot in hell of being the NC, and I didn’t think anyone here thought of it as a serious possibility, either. If anything we all want to Just. Win. The. Rose. Bowl, Damn. It.
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by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
So, what is our RB depth chart next year, assuming LMJ leaves?
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At this point you have to go KJB as the main guy with DAT and Tra getting plenty of snaps.
You can be damn sure CK will look to leverage DAT’s considerable talent in fun and interesting ways. KJB has always been a more reliable receiver than LMJ so we may see more bubble screens and such to the RB (shades of DD to JStew and JJ). After that we have Forde and a verbal from 4* Byron Marshall.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully the distribution per game looks something like
KJB 15-20 touches at RB
DAT 20-25 touches between KR, PR, WR, and RB
Tra 5-10 touches at RB
I don't know about that.
It’s about exploiting the weaknesses of the opponent rather than going by a touch chart. If an opponent is susceptible to a big back pounding away between the tackles, it’s Tra. If an opponent is weak on the perimeter, it’s DAT. If we’re running the base offense, it’s KJB and DAT or both (and even all three) running the ZR.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions
Well, it is pretty obvious that Kenjon will be numero uno, as well he deserves to be.
I would imagine that DAT gets more rushing touches too. Honestly, Tra Carson hasn’t really looked all that amazing thus far, I would would sort of doubt that he gets too many carries in situations that don’t require short yardage. the more I think about it, the more I realize that we may need Marshall to step into a role as a true freshman.
Next season we could feel the loss of Seastrunk.
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What Tra has done this year doesn't necessarily predict his play next year.
He’ll be given the same chance as everyone else in Spring and Fall practice and I hope he steps it up because we’re going to be thin without LMJ.
I sincerely doubt we’ll see any games in which DAT’s name gets called only on KOR’s and a couple passes. He and LMJ represent grade-A threats to go the distance on every play with Kenjon not too far behind. LMJ is almost certainly gone so we’ll see DAT in 2 back sets, in the slot, out wide, wherever.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
And if Seastrunk really had such problems in the offense, I don't know that the loss is that great.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Carson has a whole year of conditioning and practice to work into his role as running back #2b.
I’m not sure if De’Anthony’s role changes much next year. He’s such a dynamic talent as a receiver, it’d be silly to have him assume Barner’s current role.
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Interesting point.
I think the role originally intended for Barner was split into 2 roles: Main backup RB and 2nd back in 2-back sets/slot/wr for DAT. It allowed us to bring a rested and fresh Barner in during those frenetic second-half drives in the last few games.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
Darn it, "main backup RB for Barner."
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Holy crap ...
you guys have some scary team speed
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by DevilishTrojan21 on Nov 20, 2011 7:29 PM PST reply actions
Too bad you didnt see much of it last night, lol.
I'm super thanks for asking! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPNna_f4P4Y
I saw enough to freak me the f**k out
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by DevilishTrojan21 on Nov 20, 2011 8:28 PM PST reply actions
Speed couldn't do anything against Barkley and Lee
Although I’ll admit, the quick-strike warp-speed offense that appeared out of nowhere in the fourth quarter was pretty impressive. Fucking Lee, though. Even in coverage, he always came down with the ball.
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by Brass-billed on Nov 21, 2011 1:07 AM PST up reply actions
Our secondary really didn’t do a terrible job. They just were getting open enough, and Barkley was putting it right where it needed to be. It was an impressive showing.
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I'll tell you
Woods was hurt so we had to let Lee shoulder the load, but Robert Woods is always in beastmode when he’s on the field. That dude is insane. Barkley is getting better and damn…….Dad Kiffin put together a nice defensive plan!
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by DevilishTrojan21 on Nov 21, 2011 6:22 AM PST reply actions
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