The Netglow File: Forgetting How to Win. The USC Case File
There was a lot to go through this week in the Netglow File but there is one common thread that couldn't be denied. USC Fans are bitter, even in victory. Talk of how corrupt the NCAA is as an organization and how USC got "screwed" by them. How the entire world is against USC succeeding and looking to destroy "The Program". How even in blowouts, the refs are out there to take USC down as hitmen from Larry Scott. Even in winning against Oregon, there is an undenible feeling across the Interwebs.
USC fans have forgotten how to win.
A win against a team like Oregon only just a few years ago would have been met with almost indifference. A win against a good team, expected to do it, fight on Trojans, etc etc. What is it now? USC players scream "We're back!", fans taking swipes at their opponents fans, and what do Oregon fans do?
Collective sigh, "bummer we lost the game. Oh well, didn't matter ultimately. Still control our destiny for a Rose Bowl berth"
My how roles have reversed.
Oregon is now at the top of the hill where a loss against a team like USC doesn't ultimately matter for a Rose Bowl berth and a USC reaction to a win against Oregon is met with hostility, bitterness and jealousy. Oh don't get me wrong. The talent for USC is there and there will be wins a plenty in coming years. The biggest thing USC has lost? The tradition of "acting like you've been there". For a program with the history of USC, losing that tradition is worse than any NCAA sanction. Confidence has been replaced with bitterness and that's how you know that the USC program has fallen from the elite in the conference.
Onto the Netglow File
"Great crowd to you = classless fans who don't respect opposing fans to me. I know this first hand." - @DisplacedTrojan commenting on a reflective post from the ATQ twitter feed about the nature of the crowd and the turnout of the game
These kinds of comments crack me up. Internet fans are always the first to call out other fanbases as classless. Let me break it down for you. Your opponent fanbases are all arrogant, classless pricks that push down old ladies, steal their lunch money and spit on them as they run away laughing. Your fans, by contrast, are virtuous, pious do-gooders that give money to the poor, donate kidneys on a weekly basis and never ever do anything negative. George Carlin said it best. My stuff is stuff and your stuff is shit! Every fanbase has classless fans and the sooner people realize that their own poop doesn't smell like perfume all the time, the better off we'll all be.
"still no national championships for your quackers! Go ahead make that symbol with your hands:'0'" - @tlamb29 commenting on USC's victory over Oregon on Saturday
Mr. Lambert seems to be very excited about the hand motion that Oregon fans make when supporting the team. He must not have seen the recent New York Time article regarding the players studying American Sign Language else he would have an even more appropriate slam. Opportunity lost. Let's see if he continues on to recover from this gaffe.
"you and all your fellow quackers know that that PAC 12 championship you win will have a big fat * next to it." - @tlamb29 commenting on the UO prospects for winning their 3rd conference title in a row
Now that's an encouraging post! Not only did Mr. Lambert endorse the Oregon Ducks in winning the inaugural Pac-12 Championship, he even talked about having a giant star next to it! I assume he meant a graphic like this one. In all fairness, the irony of a fan of a team currently on probation, a team currently banned from post-season play, a team who had a national championship removed from their history... the irony is just delicious.
"Oregon has NBA players on its sideline and recruits in Phil Knight's luxury box and isn't trying to get on probation? LOL" - @trjons commenting on NBA Stars LeBron James, Kobe Bryant among others attending the game on Saturday
So let me get this straight. A USC fan is lecturing us about having celebrities at our game? Really? Really. USC Fan? Even Will Ferrell finds this comment laughable and qutie frankly I do too. Have USC fans fallen so far that they are bashing other schools in bringing celebrities to their games? Look, I know this may seem hard to believe but celebrities don't really give a crap about being fans of certain schools. They care about one thing and one thing only. Their brand. Oregon is a brand that's on the rise and is "new and hip". Celebrities want to associate to that because it helps them and their brand. When USC was winning championships, celebrities were all over the place because that was the "cool" thing to do. Trust me when I say this. If Colorado was enjoying the success and brand recognition that Oregon is enjoying, Boulder would be crawling with celebs trying to get piece (insert Kobe Bryant joke here).
The other part of this quote had to do with a take on recruits being in Phil Knight's luxary box. I'll address this in a second.
"r u there to play football or to sell shoes? USC=NFL factory Oregon=Shoe Factory easy call" - @trojanhead714 talking to potential football recruit Arik Armstead after he mentioned being in the Phil Knight suite at Autzen
Nothing like having fans trying to lobby between one school and another through insults. As fans, we don't really understand what a potential recruit is looking for when it comes to a school. Could it be NFL related? Certainly but it also could be other factors. Comments like this just make me smile because even though there is an insult towards Oregon, it keeps us in the conversation and we're seen as such a threat to this USC poster. Also, to think a recruit cares what some random internet fan says is just plain silly.
That's it for the Netglow File. See you next week for our Thanksgiving Edition
-- Dominic
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Every fanbase has classless fans and the sooner people realize that their own poop doesn’t smell like perfume all the time, the better off we’ll all be.
I feel like if you believed this, you would have written that first, and then stopped writing.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
by RabbitSC on Nov 20, 2011 4:35 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Let me know where I claimed that our shit didn’t stink. I think you’ve missed the point a bit. Thanks for reading though.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Dom, I think his point was that the posts from those tweeters should be dismissed as the idiots they are
We really shouldn’t spend energy on the idiots.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
I think idiots can be very interesting. One person’s idiot is another person’s savant. I picked the quotes above because I find them interesting in context of a big win by USC. You may not agree that they deserve energy but I think these types of comments in the context of an online discussion can prove interesting.
If you don’t, that’s your prerogative as well.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
They were interesting...
…in that they show one end of their fanbase. They’re unfortunate, but it really puts fandom into perspective. Kind of makes you look at your own behavior as a Ducks fan.
Thankfully, I tend to avoid brashness like the ones quoted. :P
"Teach me how to Duckie...teach-teach me how to Duckie..."
Jase
An amazing conclusion.
Although are you saying SC doesn’t have classless fans (demonstrably false) or that only Oregon has classless fans (see prior)?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 7:51 PM PST up reply actions
Mentioned in the conference wrap post, but...
“you and all your fellow quackers know that that PAC 12 championship you win will have a big fat * next to it.” – @tlamb29 commenting on the UO prospects for winning their 3rd conference title in a row
Giving him all credit for his intended meaning here, he must by implying that there will be an asterisk. That asterisk standing for “Lost to a team that finished with the third-best overall conference record.” Undoubtedly he also intends to insist that USC’s record for this year will also have an *, meaning “lost to a .500 Arizona State and North runner-up Stanford.”
Forgotten how to win, forgotten how to read conference standings.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Why are we giving that idiot so much attention? Really, if you're going to respond to every deluded guy
out there, we’re never going to have a sane conversation. It will just fuel your hatred. I think it’s reasonable to assume every fan base has its share of idiots, and just move on. There are plenty of sane and decent fans of every team who aren’t interested in trolling.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
No, obviously the "*" stands for it being the inaugural P12 title.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 7:52 PM PST up reply actions
I don't get this either
we lost to Stanford in 2009, but we were still the champions. Since when do you have to go undefeated through your conference to win it?
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
by Brass-billed on Nov 21, 2011 1:54 AM PST up reply actions
There are two kinds of USC fans
There are the alumni and dedicated followers of the program. These I have found to be knowledgeable (about football) and reasonable. Then there are the legion of bandwagoners. Those tweets most likely come from the latter. Our success lately has given us our own contingent and I doubt they act much different.
Really the only significant difference between these respective teams is that USC has always been a “swagger” team and thus more than a tad arrogant and that does tend to slip into the consciousness of the fans. As long as they are aware of it, it’s not really much of an issue (with me at least).
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
Exactly.
Our current contingent of bandwagoners are calling for Chip Kelly’s head. Guess we all have idiots.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Nov 21, 2011 9:51 AM PST up reply actions
Say it long enough and you may believe it
Collective sigh, “bummer we lost the game. Oh well, didn’t matter ultimately. Still control our destiny for a Rose Bowl berth”
True. Of course this presumes your “ultimate” goal was a Rose Bowl. But anyone who followed this site knows you collectively had hoped for much more, especially with Oky St dropping the ball Friday. I would expect most people were pretty disappointed and who could blame them
The Rose Bowl is a pretty great consolation prize; your guys have earned it. Good luck beating the B1G team in Pasadena.
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"You can't sanction heart, and you can't sanction the will to win" - USC QB, Matt Barkley
by WE ARE SC on Nov 20, 2011 5:08 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Your comment at the top:
“Say it long enough and you may believe it”
ultimately, I think, is correct.
Look, AtQers — let’s not kid ourselves. We were over the freaking moon when Oklahoma State lost, and it was for one reason only — we had a backdoor chance to get into the Natty. We still needed help, but it was one thing rather than two or three.
Where this puts us, however, is right back in the same place we all believed we were after the LSU loss — with a Rose Bowl being the best we could hope for. In fact, we’re far closer to this, because instead of a long and challenging PAC schedule ahead of us, we’ve just got the barkrats remaining.
To most of the SC fans who have been on our boards over the last week, I’d offer a sincere thanks for your class.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 5:28 PM PST up reply actions
Not everyone
I did not want to go to New Orleans and play LSU again. I also know that Matt Daddy for one has said this many times over the last month as well. Besides, I never believed that it was really going to happen – my money is on Alabama winning out and going to the least entertaining, no offense NCG in a decade. So to me yesterday feels like a loss that ends our home win streak (bummer) but not something that ended any big dream. The Rose Bowl will be great and this time we are going to WIN that sucker.
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Sounds like Daisy, Matt and I are all in the same boat on this. The Rose Bowl is the only championship game we can control. The BCS Championship Game depends on too many factors outside of our scope
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Nov 20, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't have minded...
…another shot at LSU. I’d say we’re clearly better now than we were in the beginning of the season. Heck, the development of DAT alone would make it intriguing. I can’t see him fumbling twice in a rematch. Not to mention Pleasant stepping up.
"Teach me how to Duckie...teach-teach me how to Duckie..."
Jase
I might be with you
If it were in a truly neutral location or at home. I want no part of that team in New Orleans. I love my Ducks, but realistically I do not think we win that game. Rose Bowl FTW!
ATQ's #1 fan of ATQ Guys
Co-sign
Oregon has improved from the beginning of the season, but so has LSU.
I wanted to win yesterday, but for the good of the program, not because it meant an outside shot at the NCG.
Who needs normal sleep patterns?
by AcadianTraverse on Nov 20, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions
/pilingon!
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Nov 22, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
This.
In the light of the morning, I was a lot more bummed about the snapped home win streak than I was about an outside chance to lose a national championship again.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
This
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Nov 21, 2011 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Not everyone.
There was still no way we were going to make it into the NC. It was a distraction, nothing else. Of course, we (or at least I) heartily enjoy watching all the top BCS teams lose, and create BCS anarchy. I, for one, do not welcome our BCS overlords.
#Die BCS Die.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 5:43 PM PST up reply actions
Going to chime in another "not everyone."
I was pretty convinced, and am still pretty convinced that Alabama would have boxed us out regardless. It was nice to wake up and realize that, really, we were truly back in the discussion and we could put together a pretty good argument. But I don’t think it’s an argument we were likely to have won, particularly in the BCS computers. The win cost us other things like Daisy mentioned, like the win streaks, the chance to sweep the Pac TWICE in a row, etc. I’m bummed, but it’s honestly not about the NCG, or at least, that’s pretty far down the list of reasons. My gut feeling is that what this win likely cost us was the chance to be able to carp until the end of time about being left out once again.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
what this win likely cost us was the chance to be able to carp until the end of time about being left out once again.
I am so not gonna miss that, honestly.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
(As in, the chance for ME to carp, not the chance for YOU to carp.)
I just don’t want us to feel like we got jobbed out of anything.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Oh no, I'm totally with you on that.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Oh, I let myself get caught up in it for a day
mainly because I like arguing and any chance to annoy SEC fans.
We got about a quarter into the SEC game, I saw how our offenisve line and our secondary was getting its ass kicked, and found myself hoping for the Rose Bowl even if we had won.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
We were?
Maybe some or many were. There was a lot of chatter about the (still slim) possibility, as would be expected.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Many (but as clearly demonstrated above, not all) were.
I was among them, but I’m back to earth now.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
A hint of sarcasm?
I’m not quite sure what you’re getting at here…
Obviously, the goal is the Championship game. And obviously, last night’s game threw those hopes out the window. It happens. That’s sports. So, would you, objectively, expect us (or a different team in our position) to do? Focus on a realistic Rose Bowl berth or cease to care about what the team can still achieve?
You’re right. The Rose Bowl IS a good consolation prize. And I am hoping you’re civil enough to be sincere about us earning it. The Ducks vs. the Spartans would be a really fun game to watch.
Not sure why your title reeks of bitterness…
"Teach me how to Duckie...teach-teach me how to Duckie..."
Jase
he is quoting my line from the article. I don’t think he’s being sarcastic in any way.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Nov 20, 2011 5:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
No disrespect intended
I know I would have been more than just bummed.
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"You can't sanction heart, and you can't sanction the will to win" - USC QB, Matt Barkley
none taken. thought it was a very good take
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
Excellent.
Kudos to you, We Are SC. May your Sunday evening end well.
"Teach me how to Duckie...teach-teach me how to Duckie..."
Jase
I think we've been burned by the BCS enough times to not get overly exited by the prospect.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
If that is the case...
Then awesome. I hope that really is the case, because it would make him a rare classy opposing poster. It’s likely that I just misinterpreted that.
"Teach me how to Duckie...teach-teach me how to Duckie..."
Jase
The SC folks that have been here this week
have been quite good, this guy included.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
No
I think the author knows what I mean. I might say them same thing; however a loss like this would eat at me a bit.
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"You can't sanction heart, and you can't sanction the will to win" - USC QB, Matt Barkley
It sucks...
In that it took so long to really get things going. But it is what it is. We got outplayed for most of the game. It isn’t like there was dirty play, or questionable officiating. Barkley had himself an incredibly impressive game. The Ducks didn’t take care of the ball. Too many fumbles, too many dropped passes, too many times where the players weren’t watching where they were on the field. The final quarter was interesting, for certain, but took too long to really make it watchable for Ducks fans.
"Teach me how to Duckie...teach-teach me how to Duckie..."
Jase
For me the fact of losing to USC at home (to end our conference streak) was worse than osing any slim hope of returning to the BCSNCG.
In my mind, we lost our “right” to a claim to that game when we lost to LSU and sliding back in through collective derp was just something I wanted to avoid thinking about. IOW the Rose Bowl has been the goal since the LSU game and remains a very achievable goal but losing to SC at home freaking blows.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
The Title
“You can’t sanction heart, and you can’t sanction the will to win” – USC QB, Matt Barkley
Maybe a little bitterness. Directed toward the NCAA, nobody else. But mainly a nod to MB; like him or not ya gotta respect a kid that sticks with his team during the sanctions. And for the record I think the kid is great.
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"You can't sanction heart, and you can't sanction the will to win" - USC QB, Matt Barkley
Barkley has been really good for SC
and it looks like he has a great relationship with Kiffin too. The only thing I have against Barkley is that he seems to really enjoy dancing like an idiot, and he beat the Ducks.
I hate that I don’t have a lot of hate for SC right now. I’ve even enjoyed the fans from SC that have stopped by ATQ this week. I look forward to a nice North-South rivalry with you guys.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
comment to Matt
Barkley is a big stabilizing force.
He’s also a great student with a better than 3.3 GPA in Communications.
So, the guy is studying and getting the grades.
Our AD, Pat Haden, was QB and a Rhodes Scholar. So, the role model is there.
The dancing thing was when he was first at the school, haven’t seen much of that thing going on now.
Beating the Ducks?
I’m hoping for a Barkley/SC v. Oregon rematch at the Coliseum next year.
The more I think about the more likely I think it is
He’ll finally have a chance to play for a bowl and Pac 12 title. He’s put in all this time and energy already, why not? He’ll be a higher draft pick with Luck not taking the first QB spot off the board. And he seems to have a good relationship with Kiffin and the program.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
I think you might be right about him not leaving
Also, we couldn’t get that lucky.
ATQ's #1 fan of ATQ Guys
Guys on the radio after the game
scoffed at that notion. I agree. Why come back? He’s a an early round draft pick.
My parents believed in me.
Why not?
He could end up Leinart’d or Locker’d (right now he’s projected in the top-4). He could get injured. There are as many very good reasons why not as there are why.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't read too much into the hilarity that followed with Iowa State winning
We ALL cheered them on. And I was one of the most vociferous. It was natural, because of course you cheer for the underdog and pull down a top team. BCS Chaos is always a winner. We also wanted Boise State to lose, for that matter. But not for one second did I at any point think we should or would get into the NC.
We’ve had many conversations here that have talked about just getting a Rose Bowl win this year. I will be cheering Bama’s and LSU’s opponents vociferously this coming week as well. That doesn’t impact Oregon in anyway but we just do want them to lose.
If we had somehow by some miracle qualified for the NC, great. But we have not won anything yet in the last three years. We really want to win at least the Rose Bowl. I really don’t think any ATQer was really expecting to play in the NC even remotely seriously. They all, however, are pretty fired up about dominating the PAC-12 and winning the Rose Bowl.
And the disappointment in losing to USC is not because it affected some bcs standing AT ALL. That’s less than 0.01 % for me, compared to the fact that we LOST TO SC. We want to beat our conference foes even if it had made no difference in the path to the RB at all.
Thanks for the wishes!
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Incorrect.
One would find that the majority didn’t hold out any real hope for the BCSNCG (though many had fun discussion the slim possibility).
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 7:55 PM PST up reply actions
Eh, "discussing."
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
Byron Marshall
Highlights of his first playoff game
Ha!
Marshall threw the “O” after scoring a TD!
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Nov 22, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
I think this is best summed up with :
Trolls will be trolls.
Don’t feed the trolls.
My parents believed in me.
The one thing that still bothers me...
Is the fact that there was any attention paid to James, Wade, Anthony, Bosh, and Paul. As a former-lifelong NBA fan, it’s a bit disgusting that they were clearly seeking some air time, since they won’t be seeing any on the hardwood. I loathe the Heat trio. Truly. Their presence at the game was a terrible way to start the night.
That is all.
"Teach me how to Duckie...teach-teach me how to Duckie..."
Jase
I think this may be the beginning of a beautiful relationship...
And by beautiful I mean hate filled and insulting. It would actually be nice to have the Oregon-USC rivalry really explode. It would add a nice aspect to this whole new North vs. South aspect of the Pac-12, giving us more national attention. Also I think DAT will really want to come down to LA next year and put on a real show.
"I’m not making a bold prediction, but we believe we can win every football game."
Agree
And if Barkley leaves that might bring you guys down a little bit next year.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Nov 20, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
(He's a Duck fan)
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
derp
really blew that one…..not sure what I was thinking when I posted that earlier. Brain was not working apparently.
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Nov 20, 2011 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
To Dominic from a Trojan Alumnus
To Dominic,
I will not take your comments personally, as they are quite broad, sweeping generalizations.
I am a USC alumnus who is quite irate with the NCAA Committee on Infractions. While I am certain that there are more than a few University of Oregon alumni who are filled with dark-sided anger directed at USC, I can say that I have no such animosity to the University of Oregon.
In fact, as you are probably aware, many thousands of ex-Southern Cailfornians have moved to Oregon and Washington in order to gain the feel of the Pacific Northwest.
So, no, there is no animosity towards our PAC-12 brethren. In fact, USC has agreed to revenue share with Oregon through the conference. USC did not play monetary conference games like the Texas Longhorns in the Big12 played against Oklahoma. I truly do root for the other PAC-12 teams when they are doing well.
I was rooting for Oregon when Oregon played LSU.
I root for PAC-12 teams when they are in non-conference play.
After all, it does not help PAC-12 competitiveness when ASU, UCLA, USC, or other PAC-12 schools get clobbered by SEC or other conferences.
USC is not even a big rivalry for Oregon. We, frankly, were not competitive with Oregon for many years. Do you disagree?
Therefore, when USC gets a win in Oregon, it’s a big deal. Some of the freshman on the field were in middle school that last time that USC actually beat Oregon in Oregon. So, it’s been a recently rare event.
Recall a while back when USC had not beaten Notre Dame for something like 10 years and UCLA for something like 8 years (I’m sure other Trojan fans will be able to cite the exact number of years), but the point is that huge winning streaks are a sign of tremendous success in a program. Chip Kelly has that record.
I was at the LA Coliseum when Pete Carroll’s streak ended against Jim Harbaugh and Andrew Luck 2 years back. That was a very quiet night as the fan base walked out of the Coliseum. But, hey, it wouldn’t be the game that we all love without those kinds of nights to balance the victories in the Rose Bowl, at Notre Dame, or at the Farm.
The USC v. Oregon competition is a great one.
We should be proud to be a part of it, even if we are not on the field.
You have a great blog and I enjoyed reading it over the last few weeks.
Best wishes to Oregon and win in the Rose Bowl!
Let’s face it, if the one of the other teams show up, PAC-12 could lose in Pasadena.
by bonesmccoy on Nov 20, 2011 6:24 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Thanks for this, Bones.
Like I said, the SC fans that have showed up over the last week have been overwhelmingly terrific.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Nov 20, 2011 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
WHY ARE SC FANS NOT MAKING ME HATE YOU!?!?!?!
STOP BEING SO NICE AND REASONABLE ON OUR BLOG!
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Don't worry, Matt Daddy, I'm on the job!
I’ve employed a team of forensic linguists who are poring over bonesmccoy’s post as we speak. We’ll deconstruct that puppy with whatever it takes, Derridean, Freudian or Alien. There’s bound to be something sinister in that package, some subliminal takeover. Well-meaning, intelligent posts from sincere, likable people! HA!! THEY CAN’T FOOL US!! WHAT NEXT, CHRISTMAS WITH THE FUSKIES?? HA!
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Nov 20, 2011 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
They are not Dogs...
…so feel the love. Also, watch the B. Marshall highlights if the SC hangover has yet to wear off. He is a stud!
by AlreadyaCarsonFAN on Nov 21, 2011 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
Mentioning the fact that Californians have invaded us and driven up our housing prices won't buy you any warm feelings.
/justkidding
/kindof
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
You're welcome
I might even be willing to show up at the Oregon tent with few illicit beers if you come down to LA next year.
I’ll be checking in at other times as Oregon handles the post-season.
Oregon’s team is really fierce and LSU was smart not to schedule Oregon now.
After all, the LSU AD schedules Ole Miss and Alabama schedules Georgia Southern in Week 12 on purpose. If LSU v. Oregon happened now, it would be an entirely different match.
Oh one other comment
The PAC-12 officiating was really awful last night.
I don’t know if ATQ readers were reading my postings over at Conquest Chronicles, but I’ve been really irate with the poor consistency and poor quality of the field judging.
There were a bunch of calls which were overturned by the booth.
Having that number of calls overturned during one game is really bringing me to question why the field judges see such different things.
More importantly, I am also watching the ball spotting at each play and how the field umps move the markers too.
Larry Scott fined Lane Kiffin a few weeks ago when Lane called the PAC-12 on the bad officiating.
I have to say that the officiating in Oregon and at the Farm (during the Stanford v. Oregon game) was nothing to be proud of. I mean what the heck was going on with the Stanford game and play clock synchronization during that fourth quarter run?
Lane Kiffin called the PAC-12 on our Monday AM conference call. Larry Scott fined Kiff $10,000 for saying that the officiating was questionable at the end of one of our games.
Larry Scott was obviously not in the house. I was in the house at the Coliseum. Let me tell you guys, if you thought the clock management at the Farm was bad, I have seen some really unbelievable officiating at the Coliseum.
We had one field ump calling us “South Carolina” during the Syracuse Game.
We had another ump respot a 5 yard penalty as 2nd and 7 when it should have been 2nd and 15! Plus, I’ve seen plays (i’m in the end zone of the Coliseum) right in front of me where the ref’s completely blew the calls on the field and had them turned over.
It might be a good idea for the fan base to start tracking who these field ref’s are and the number of calls over turned per game.
On Conquest Chronicles, I have openly criticized Larry Scott and the PAC-12 for not doing more to insure the consistency of PAC-12 officiating. With all the media money supposedly coming in, you would think someone who start stepping up the quality of the officiating.
Pac-X officiating is the subject of much scorn and ridicule going back unto the ages.
I don’t think there’s much call to over-criticize Scott at this point. He hired two ex-NFL officials, including a one-time director of officials, to start the process of cleaning up the mess, fired and replaced 40% of the officials over the summer, and has things headed in the right direction. I’m not sure what more one can do in 2.5 years on the job. The Hansen mess took decades to become as bad as it did and can’t be cleaned up instantly.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 20, 2011 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
Might as well develop a good rapport.
It’ll be interesting to see where this series goes in the years to come. Sanctions will hinder USC eventually but it might be a while before the impact really lands. Barring unfortunate NCAA business, Oregon isn’t going anywhere. Right now, and especially looking ahead, each team is the class of their respective divisions. This could develop into a true heated Big Deal rivalry.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
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no…no…No..No.No.NO.NONONONONONOOOOOOOO
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Never seen
A post on the main page of SB Nation responding to random tweets from annonymous fans. A little bitter are we?
3rd down... chainsaw noise please.
You really must not get around the internet all that much.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Maybe in the comments section
But to write a story about it and put it on the front page after a loss… That seems pretty bush league to me.
3rd down... chainsaw noise please.
... I'm going to repeat jtlight then...
You don’t get around the internet all that much.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
And I'm on Bedge all the time
Dave or Ben wouldn’t stoop so low and pick out random tweets from God knows who and then try and argue with their points. You’re embarassing your fanbase buddy.
3rd down... chainsaw noise please.
We do a lot of things that Dave and Ben wouldn’t do.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Blazers Edge is a great blog.
But not every great blog is Blazers Edge.
Every SBNation blog does things differently. You know that.
Regardless, I believe the SBN mothership does “This week in Schadenfreude”, and this is hardly that different.
You also don’t run an SBNation Blog’s twitter feed.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
He's not your buddy, pal.
Addicted to Quack, #1 Oregon blog among female Duck fans, including the ageless and ever-radiant daisyduck.
by Takimoto on Nov 23, 2011 1:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
SEC
I applaud the Ducks on a great season. Ya’ll had a tough schedule. However, get ready for the Tide to roll over LSWHO.
by Bisquick_in_da_MGM on Nov 21, 2011 6:32 AM PST reply actions
not totally untrue
As a life long Trojan fan, and 2nd generation Trojan, I kinda agree. I was pretty shocked during the Stanford game when the announcer reminded everyone to stay off the field if we happened to win.
SC doesn’t storm the field and tear down goal posts. We aren’t Florida International beating Alabama.
Were I a USC fan I would have been really happy with the win, but I'm not really bummed by the loss
I am not going to hang my emotional well being on the performance and decisions of 17-22 year olds.
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
My first visit to Autzen (sorry in advance for the long comment)
I think I wanted to go to Autzen starting 10 years ago when NCAA 03 had Joey Harrington on the cover, being from the East I knew nothing about Oregon or really even USC at that point.
When plane tickets went dirt cheap at the last minute, I bought them and flew up alone. The caveat is the flight was to Seattle so after a 5 hour drive down, I needed beer. I went to Ninkasi and it was great I wish I could have brought a keg of Oatis home with me.
When I got to Eugene 99% of the people shook my hand and warned me that there were other drunk fans who would give me a hard time. It never happened.
At my seats everyone was nice, the only fight occurred when the OSU fans behind me picked a few fights with Oregon fans who at the time were pretty low after USC started so well.
6 times I stood up and yelled beat the ducks (after each score) and I wasn’t booed, one guy said cut that out but it was funny. Oregon scored and I said I think we might take the kick back…Lee got around the outside to about midfield and we had another laugh. Classy for what was at the time was the worst Duck performance in years in my opinion.
I am in awe of the Oregon offense, I hate the lack of originality in football and love how Chip basically built on Florida’s scheme by turning the tempo way up…seeing them in person from the corner endzone view…I was amazed to see how they don’t fake their looks, they have 3-4 fully blocked options on every play USC’s D line handled it well but you can see how a slight moment of over aggression or a slight moment of hesitation will end with that duck horn being played.
This was not more clear than the last drive the throw to DAT…the USC linebacker came hard for blitz and instantly realized he had DAT in coverage he turned direction as fast as possible for a human being his size but was burnt a good throw and its six points easy.
After the Paulson one handed grab, even I had to high five the Duck fans I love football and that was a great catch and from a TE. The guy behind me said we were more respectful than he was at Stanford a few weeks back…losing gives you perspective
That said the coliseum brings out the worst, blame the tailgate maybe and the 30 second walk to the stadium, so I will be the first to say if you come down for the rematch next year in the Coliseum it will get ugly…(if we play, I think that’s how the new PAC 12 schedule works).
The only smack talk I got was after the game someone told me “good luck in the Rose Bowl, oh wait you can’t go”…I said: “well we have 24 good luck winning one.” It does sting a little, in 2008 people at USC were sick of the Rose Bowl, I think we’d give anything for a shot at the Pac 12 and a trip to the Rose Bowl…but this game was probably a good 3rd place prize…I think we wanted to beat Stanford at home a little more than this one.
I respect Oregon and hope the Oregon/SC rivalry grows as we continue to clash pro style vs spread and fighting for LA recruits. Autzen was loud and the people were great, and the game was great.
I’ll end this the same way I ended my night in Autzen, by saying thanks for having me, win the Civil War, (because I hate Stanford) and be sure to win the Pac 12, we don’t want ASU or UCLA representing the PAC 12 to a national audience.
Kent State, Temple, Akron too, they can't do it like we do.
Falcons, Bobcats and Redhawks talk a lot can't back it up.
by bull_trojan on Nov 21, 2011 3:34 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
This game was all SC had.
It’s also funny to mention that all of the other schools in trouble still haven’t received their sanctions. (Miami and Ohio State), they’re still “under investigation”. Yet as soon as the word hit the street on USC, they were booked and banned. The sanctions itself are a joke as well. They deal only with Reggie Bush and his wannabe agents. Their sanctions were complete and utter bull.
Leaving Jimmer Fredette open for 3 is like leaving Brad Pitt alone with your wife. You know he's gonna hit it.

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