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Does Oregon have any reason to fear a slip-up against Oregon State?

Chip Kelly is now 24-2 in conference games as Oregon's head coach.  That is such an astounding number, especially when considering Oregon's history, that its almost not fair to criticize it.  In being asked to write this post, the topic that I was asked to ponder was "How does Oregon avoid a slip-up against Oregon State."

The automatic reaction from Duck fans is "Chip Kelly doesn't allow slip-ups or letdowns."  Then I thought about those two losses--extremely similar in nature and fitting the classic definition of a "letdown" game.

In 2009, a week after obliterating #4 USC to effectively end their seven year reign atop the conference, and everyone is feeling really good.  Oregon is in the driver's seat for the Rose Bowl, playing a Stanford team that they should beat.  But a few interesting things happened in that game.  Oregon came out and didn't execute very well on either side of the football.  Meanwhile, for Stanford, Toby Gerhart went crazy, and Andrew Luck had one of the best passing games of his career. Eventually, Oregon hit the panic button, started executing better, and nearly came back to win, but all was just a little too late.

Flash forward to last weekend, does the script sound familiar?

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I coached five years at the high school level, and one of the big things I learned is that you can't always control your players emotionally.  You can talk and shape their attitude, but can't shield them from big highs and lows.  Oregon had to deal with two very high highs last week, not only the Stanford win which gave Oregon the inside track in the Pac-12 North, but the high of seeing Oklahoma State win on Friday giving rise to discussion of a return trip to the National Championship Game.  That is a quick emotional turnaround for a coach to deal with, much less a 20 year old kid, and, ultimately, it proved too much for Oregon to handle.  Maybe they could have hit that panic button against a team like Colorado or Arizona.  You can't do that against a talented team like USC, especially with Matt Barkley, Marqise Lee, and their defensive line playing like they were and expect to win.  The fact that Oregon almost pulled it out is a major testament, despite how poorly focused they look throughout most of the game, but being able to focus for that game is the difference between a very good team and a national championship caliber team.

Remember, though, back to 2009.  Last time Oregon was in this situation, they needed to win three straight, including a road game at a very good Arizona team and a winner take all Civil War, to claim the conference title and the Rose Bowl.  This team is far better than that one, and the opponents the next two weeks far worse.  Oregon knows what is at stake.  Last week seemed to be a momentary lack of focus for a team that has few.  We saw them flip that switch midgame, there is no reason to believe that they cannot do it in a week.

Oregon State is a team that isn't very talented.  Unlike USC, you can make some mistakes against them and still win the game.  The comeback at the end of the SC game gave me all the confidence I needed for this week.  If the players are sufficiently humbled by the loss, and determined to execute against the Beavers, Oregon State simply doesn't have the talent to stop them.

We'll know early on whether a slip-up against Oregon State is a possibility, as mindset and focus are evident early on.  If this team comes in the Civil War focused, the Beavers will never have a chance.

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I agree with you in that the Stanford loss in 2009 and last week’s USC loss were very similar.

Apparently setting yourselves up with second and threes at will, and consistently connecting on the deep ball helps a team win. Who knew? Thankfully, I seriously doubt that OSU will be athletic enough to ram the ball down our throats at pick up seven yards at will.

I'm super thanks for asking! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPNna_f4P4Y

by CaDuck on Nov 22, 2011 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

That's what UW thought

And they were wrong.

They had a plan to run crossing routes against the Huskies all day long, and it worked. This is something that the Ducks have issues with. When that starts working other things open up. And that’s an issue.

Where I don’t think we’ll have a problem is is on offense. our offense is significantly better than the Huskies at every level and certainly better than Nick Montana. But our defense has some big flaws right now, and they can be exploited.

by kalon on Nov 22, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Our flaws can be exploited by good teams. OSU is not a good team.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Nov 22, 2011 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I tend to agree with jtlight on this one.

From what I have seen in all of the loses under Coach Kelly, controlling the run game and being able to run at will is the dagger that kills our team. Second and short is really difficult to defend against.

We have had some defensive trouble dealing with pass happy offenses, but we have never been beaten up too badly by one. Not to mention, OSU is not exactly an intimidating air-raid attack.

I'm super thanks for asking! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPNna_f4P4Y

by CaDuck on Nov 22, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

If the Beavers play well and the Ducks aren't sharp

It might be close until half time. But I don’t see any way the Beavers keep it close after half time and their already thin defense is exhausted.

by Sahr on Nov 22, 2011 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay that is funny

but who’s that smiling guy in the second pic?

by scotty256 on Nov 22, 2011 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it is Skip Belly.

I'm super thanks for asking! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPNna_f4P4Y

by CaDuck on Nov 22, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, since you ask, the answer is no. Not on this planet called earth. And I don’t see anything on the other side of the ball taht even comes close to a Gerhart or Luck.

by ochocokid on Nov 22, 2011 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

You know what sucks about this game...

The nutria have nothing to lose and we have everything to lose. Anything less then a blowout, is a negative for us. I hate being in that position.

I see this being equivalent of a WSU team that’s given us some fits the past two years but ultimately couldn’t really hang.

Nothing would be better for the little brother than knocking us out of the rose bowl. They will be highly motivated. A script couldn’t be written better for them.

by OakDuck on Nov 22, 2011 12:52 PM PST reply actions  

You’re right, this is as close to a bowl game as OAC is going to get for quite a while (same as U$C). But take a breath. We don’t need a blowout, all we need is a win. I really think the Ducks have it in them.

"Pressure is for those who don’t know what they’re doing."-Chip Kelly

by Harry Palmer on Nov 22, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Anything less then a blowout, is a negative for us

says who? we can win by one point and it matters as much as winning by 100 points

by echo31 on Nov 22, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

says the national perspective

But who the fuck cares about them I suppose. I just hate when a loss or even a tight game would be so much more of a story than a ducks victory.

by OakDuck on Nov 22, 2011 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

i don’t think anyone will care … the last 2 years we have beat the bavers by less than our usual point differential and it made no difference … a W is a W

by echo31 on Nov 22, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Polls don't matter

playing for the conference championship and a berth in the Rose Bowl.

That’s what’s so great about the Rose Bowl. It doesn’t involve anyone else’s crap.

My parents believed in me.

by flyduckfly on Nov 22, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus...

There is something too bizarre about Markus Wheaton being a beaver….

by OakDuck on Nov 22, 2011 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

20! The 10!

Touchdown!

Markus Whea…

Oh shit, you threw me off with that shit.

Euler's #1 fan

by Bill Musgrave on Nov 22, 2011 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

The only things you should be worried about this week
  • injuries
  • falling asleep and tumbling out of seat
  • revenge field-burning
  • “Occupy Autzen” springing up in protest of Nike
  • Duck straining triceps

Losing? Not really. Not this year.

by scotty256 on Nov 22, 2011 2:21 PM PST reply actions  

whore-again state has no running game. Zero. Is Rogers even going to play in this game?
If so, he will be hampered, even more so by what our defense is going to do.

Mannion is going to be running for his life back there.

This is going to be a feast. Enjoy.

by ochocokid on Nov 22, 2011 2:30 PM PST reply actions  

I fixed it for you.

but the high of seeing Oklahoma State win lose on Friday

"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"

by QuackinAK on Nov 22, 2011 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

Re-watching old civil wars...

I think enough time has passed that the presence of one Richard Head doesn’t really ruin it for me. It’s weird how much better that Beaver team was than now, and how much worse that Duck team was than now. And weird that even so the ducks managed to run them out of their own house.

Was it really only three years ago that Masoli, Jaison Williams, Blount and JJ won us a civil war? Man college turnover moves fast.

Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.

by omb on Nov 22, 2011 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

This season has been so much like 2009 its scary.

We start with a significant loss to a out of conference foe.
We have a freshman phenom who looks to shake up the who college scene and raise Oregon’s profile.
We have a dominant win on national television against a quality foe.
We follow up that win by folding, and nearly coming back against a rising (or in this case resurgent) power.

Course there are differences. The regular season won’t end with a war for the Rose. We lost our game at home rather than on the road. We were never really in contention for a BCS in 2009.

I also hope the ending is different than 2009, with us going to the Rose and winning it and walking out of the season with a strong ranking. If we win the Rose and considering the number of quality players we are likely to return a real solid run at the BCS next year should be in the cards. Course USC is going to be the major roadblock (especially if Barkley is back) so we’ll probably see them twice next year. I hope the difficulties LaMichael has had this season and the possibilities for next year convince him him to come back for one more before moving onto the pros.

"I’m not making a bold prediction, but we believe we can win every football game."

by mb526 on Nov 22, 2011 4:20 PM PST reply actions  

Well, yes and no

The story that season was our very close games on the road. This year we’ve been great on the road other than LSU – in fact, we’ve been better on the road than at home. That’s been a knock on Kelly for a couple years and this year it’s done.

He just needs to figure out how to keep the team motivated and strong when there is a gauntlet of teams to play week in, and how to get the team into playing shape earlier. But that’s not insurmountable.

by kalon on Nov 22, 2011 4:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the possibility of a letdown presupposes the idea that the players don't understand the stakes involved.

It’s a lesson well-earned from last week’s flat start following what apparently was a surfeit of hubris following news of Okie Lite’s loss the previous night. Stanford’s conference season is complete. A loss to Notre Dame is meaningless (and unlikely at any rate). An Oregon loss means ‘furd to the CCG and (almost certainly) the Rose Bowl. The players have to know that. If they don’t and play accordingly, a monumental upset is deserved. If the players come out focused and ready, the upset isn’t happening even if the Bavers play an error-free game. Yes, the Ducks are objectively that much better than they are.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Nov 22, 2011 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

08 Civil War

I loved that game. It was especially great to be there at Reser to watch it. We had to take crap from the baver fans beforehand, but once the game got going it was our time to revel. After the game we were waiting in the parking garage for the traffic clear out, and we’d hoot an hollar at Duck fans down below, and had a baver fan call me a F-ing asshole. It was soo much fun. Have that game on DVD and watch it once in a while when I’m in football withdrawls. lol

by 44 Desert Eagle on Nov 23, 2011 1:17 PM PST reply actions  

How OSU Could Defeat the Ducks

Governor Kitzhaber and the OUS Board call Chip Kelly in for a meeting. Matt Donegan looks at Chip and says: "I believe that we have a personnel problem here, son. We don’t like the way you’ve been behaving. You’re not playing ball like the other schools."

"Yea," says Kitzhaber. "You’re gettin’ a little too big for your britches."

"And I thought that we warned you about this," says George Pernsteiner, grinning.

"But fellas!" says Chip. "I’ve accomplished what we all want. I have the most innovative offense in the country. We are competing at a national level with the best programs there are. We set out to achieve excellence, and we’ve accomplished it."

"Yea," says Matt. "That’s just the problem. I thought that we told you to check your offense with us. We make the calls around here. You think we give a sh*t about excellence and innovation? We want you to follow the rules and play ball our way."

"You see," says the Guv’nor, "we play ball a certain way here in Oreygun. And you need to play ball our way. It ain’t innovative, but we don’t really like smart asses here, anyway."

Matt spits on the ground. "Son, you can take your fancy football somewhere else. We can live just fine without it. You can also resign your position. You can go out this easy way, or you can make things hard on yourself."

George is grinning. John is nodding his head. He spits, too. Matt spits again and stares hard into Chip’s eyes. "You can also throw this game to OSU—if you know what’s good for you. Hell, you fancy asses don’t even have a forestry program at that fancy ass Youneeversity of yours!"

John and George break out laughing. Chip gives that funny grin that communicates nothing about what he’s really thinking. Tune in for the results on Saturday.

by NathanZ on Nov 24, 2011 9:57 PM PST reply actions  

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