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OUS ousts Lariviere, but has a lot of work to do to set things right

The meeting was a sham.

That in and of itself should not come a a surprise.

We knew Lariviere was going to get fired.  There was no doubt about that coming in.

What was frustrating was the arrogance displayed by the State Board of Higher Ed.  After listening to an hour of public testimony, they had the audacity to come back with pre-prepared statements.  After listening to public concerns about lack of transparency and trust, the Board has the audacity to lecture on the importance of transparency and trust.  While showing how out of touch they are by saying that all the outrage came as a surprise.

My first reaction was emotional.  And my first (and now deleted) thread on the subject was overly so.

That said, no amount of protest is going to bring Lariviere back.  Nor should that be the goal at this point.  We have to move forward, and that's going to include a number of things.

The Board of Higher Education, whether they like it or not, has a major mess on their hands.  People are very angry, and rightfully so.  And I think a lot of people are more angry about the process than the decision itself.  That University stakeholders, students, faculty, and alumni were not kept in the loop, then patronized when they finally got a chance to speak.  Clearly, Lariviere was a difficult man for the politicians to deal with.  But he also embodies what a lot of us feel:  that our chance for greatness is now, that we can't continue to be held back so that other univerisites in the system don't feel bad, and we certainly can't wait for years for a broken system to deliver results.  The Board has a lot, and I mean A LOT, of work to do to build trust and respect with the University community.  They cannot do that until they acknowledge their own faults in that process.  That was something they were not prepared to do tonight.  Perhaps, after reflection, they will be.

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But what needs to happen in this state is a serious discussion about the future of higher education.  Our system is archaic:  a system of seven members, each with different goals and missions, all being treated exactly the same.  That's not going to work.  We need all of our public universities to give a good education.  But equality for all means mediocrity for all.  The University of Oregon has resources available to it that aren't available to other schools in the system.  That may not be fair, but you're never going to build Western Oregon into a giant research university with a large donor base.  That's just not a feasible goal.  But you could build the University of Oregon into a great University, rally the donor base to more of its operations, and give the savings to Western Oregon for them to improve their school.  It can happen.  But for this to happen, the U of O needs to have a board whose sole purpose is to further the Unversity of Oregon to make this so, and they need to be able to make decisions in the best interest of the UO without having to worry about hurting feelings at other institutions.  In facts, I'd argue that Oregon State and Portland State could each benefit greatly from independent boards as well--still accountable to public oversight, but dedicated to what's best for each particular institution.  That is the way forward. 

There is going to be a lot of outrage on campus and around the University community this week.  This is a good thing.  But the goal shouldn't be to punish.  It shouldn't even be to bring Lariviere back.  It should be to make sure that we are heard.  That our vision can live on.  Real change is hard, but this is the kind of catalyst that can get inertia going.  The Board of Higher Education tonight has forced us to work with them.  Now, we must go through the process of making them to listen to us.  Only when both sides of that equation are understood can we move forward.

Richard Lariviere is a great man, but he is one man.  To win the game, its going to start with winning the battle of public opinion.  That's not going to happen if we come off as elitist.  That's not going to happen if we all give up on the dream.  But we have the facts and the logic on our side. If we continue to have the dialogue and build the relationships, it can happen.

Two immediate issues come to concern.  The Board of Higher Education will have to select a new president, and it is imperative that they recognize the importance of listening to the UO community on the hire.  The other is the next legislative session, which will determine what the new higher education model under the Governor's education reform package looks like.  President Donegan said that he supported the idea of independent boards, and I will take him at his word on that.  We need to cultivate the public demand to make this happen.

Tonight was a setback, but it wasn't a game ender.  We have to keep fighting the good fight.  Morale is going to be down for awhile and, despite Dave Yader's insulting attempt to put all of that responsibiltiy on the University, the Board itself is going to have to work to improve that with how they move forward and work with University leaders.  Like it or not, we have to work with them.  The University's reaction will be predictable.  If the Board responds with defiance, this mess is going to get really ugly.  If they can do what they didn't do tonight--which is show respect and allow involvement for stakeholders other then themselves, perhaps we can move forward.  The University community has a responsibility to be receptive to that--but if the Board maintain the status quo, they also have a responsibility to demand it.

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nope, not at all

and they are going to have to work really hard to fix the damage they caused tonight

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by David Piper on Nov 28, 2011 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

12 PM. EMU Amplitheater. Be there. Be Loud.

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by axemen23 on Nov 28, 2011 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

After explicitly requesting it.

But the board owns this now. At least they should. Tossing aside Yader’s request that people not make mediocrity a “self-fulfilling prophecy” and thus shifting all responsibility for fixing the mess they made to the University, the board just broke this thing. People, at least a large enough portion to matter, know that they broke it, and the fix is in their court. Whatever that actually means, and what unfolds from there, I dont’ know. It’s hard to muster hope that it will end well.

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by omb on Nov 28, 2011 11:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

yep

mutually assured destruction is in nobody interest, but the University cannot capitulate to the Board at this point. The Board has to fix it.

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by David Piper on Nov 28, 2011 11:46 PM PST up reply actions  

cliff notes on why this guy got fired?

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by nolesbroncos3456 on Nov 28, 2011 11:43 PM PST reply actions  

Absolute garbage

My parents went to the meeting and both came away disgusted from the idiotic board members. I’m sorry to say that people are right: UO does not equal WOU, SOU, EOU, or even PSU. Flagship University with higher academic standards should not be held down because of his cousins that are slightly less intelligent. This is nothing against those schools. They’re probably great. But they don’t have membership in the AAU. They aren’t a part of the PAC-12. They don’t have the same tuition expenses. This should be about UO doing what UO sees best for itself. I’m sorry a directional school gets left behind. But do you think the University of Michigan, one of the great public schools in the nation, gives a fuck about Wester, Central, or Eastern Michigan?

by freeloader2 on Nov 29, 2011 6:10 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Agreed

Also, the University of Michigan has its own board of Regents (something Lariviere wanted for the University of Oregon). It works for UM and it can work for UO.

by moatman on Nov 29, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

What can we do to support?

I don’t live in the Eugene area and am not an alum. Do you know of things people like me can do to support Lariviere?

by Brettskic on Nov 29, 2011 8:37 AM PST reply actions  

From what I’m reading, it sounds like support for Lariviere, while I’m sure appreciated by him, will be somewhat fruitless. I don’t see any scenario where he’s still President of UO in 31 days. It seems like focus should be turned on reforming the Board and instituting change there so that Oregon isn’t hampered by these policies in the future.

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by Gorbachav5 on Nov 29, 2011 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah the decision has already been made.

I would focus on gathering support against Kitzhaber and the remaining board.

by ppilot on Nov 29, 2011 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Is there a way to recall members of the Board of Higher Ed?

One long shot way would be an initiative petition to legally eliminate the OUS by repealing its statutory authorization.

“ORS 351.010-351.085 are hereby repealed. The Legislature shall pass no law reconstituting the OUS Board or Chancellorship in a model replicating the repealed form. Any future governing body shall not have the power to hire nor terminate any President of any University in the Oregon University System. The power to hire or fire future University officials shall be at the sole discretion of the Board of Trustees of the respective universities. This legislation becomes effective 60 days after passage of this measure and confirmation of the final results by the Oregon Secretary of State’s Election Division.”

Board and Chancellor are wiped out in one stroke upon the effective date.

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by Famous Duck on Nov 29, 2011 11:33 AM PST reply actions  

Pernsteiner's contract is techincally up at the end of the year

The Faculty Senate meeting scheduled tomorrow will almost certainly at least vote on a motion of no confidence in him. Technically, however, the power rests with the board I think. If they don’t at least call for a review, his position is renewed automatically. In all probability we are stuck with him, though its worth trying to at least force the review to be held.

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by No Pity on Nov 29, 2011 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

So, should I not burn anything down, then? Because I have the matches and the lighter read yot og.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 29, 2011 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

dude, your cell phone is breaking up

wrot yot og you say?

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by Matt Daddy on Nov 29, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions  

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by omb on Nov 29, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

The Statutory Faculty Meeting tomorrow

Has the potential to be a big deal. Supposedly the faculty is going to try and essentially revolt in a major way. I’m not sure if they will be ready tomorrow, but the story is that they are going to try and assert control over the process through a dormant rule, and basically tell OUS to screw off. I don’t want to get the professor who said this in trouble, but what they are trying to do is a big deal, so it will be interesting to see how it all plays out. If you can go to the meeting, I would recommend it. It is at 3pm at Mac Court

And all that is in addition to motioning for Pernsteiner to be fired, which is definitely going to happen tomorrow.

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by No Pity on Nov 29, 2011 10:12 PM PST reply actions  

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