MBB Game 14 Preview and Open Thread: Oregon Ducks at Washington Huskies
by David Piper on Dec 31, 2011 2:17 PM PST
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It always seems like every Washington player is long and athletic, and this year's squad is no exception. Abdul Gaddy mas the point at 6'3", and only get larger as Darnell Gant, CJ Wilcox, Terrance Ross all come of the bench measuring between 6'6" and 6'8", then Aziz N'Diaye rounds out the starting lineup at 7'0". 5* freshman Tony Wroten is the first man off the bench, and he can play either guard spot at 6'5" When you think about running lineups with combinations of Garrett Sim (6'1"), Johnathan Loyd (5'10") and Brett Kingma (6'0"), you're giving up a lot of size. However, they've had the size and athleticism advantage against a lot of clubs, but the stats say that really hasn't translated to defensive numbers. They score 81 a game, but give up 76, and the only teams they've really blown out are Houston Baptist, Cal State Northridge, and Georgia State.
Offensively, we know what the Huskies are going to do, and they are going to run. Wroten, despite not starting most of the season, leads the team in scoring at 16.8 points per game. He is the guy to key in on, and when he is on the floor, a staggering 35% of Washington's possessions end with Wroten either taking a shot or committing a turnover. That's a staggering number for anyone not name Kobe or LeBron, and ranks #5 out of any player in the country. As a point of comparison, Tajuan Porter, in his worst season, was at just over 27%. The story on Wroten is that, while he is obviously talented, he also can play out of control, and averages over four turnovers a game.
Washington has two players who are much more efficient, getting almost 15 a game without the turnover baggage. Terrence Ross is a better shooter and rebounder while only committing half the turnovers that Wroten does, and CJ Wilcox gives you another 15 a game on far few shots and only one turnover. Gant and N'Diaye give you a ton of rebounds (about 16 combined per game), and Gaddy runs the show (5.8 assists) and all three of them give you another 8-9 point each. Add Desmond Simmons, who is shooting almost 42% from downtown, and you only have an 8 man Washington rotation. But they won't wear out because they are used to getting the tempo going as fast as possible. They have a ton more talent that Oregon does, and it will be a challenge to keep up with them offensively.
FOUR FACTORS PREVIEW:
eFG%: Oregon 53.1 (45) Washington 52.1 (70)
Oregon has the edge here, but both teams shoot the ball very well.
Turnover %: Washington 19.2 (85), Oregon 20.6 (149)
Oregon isn't as bad in this department as you would think if you watched them all season. Washington doesn't commit a ton of turnovers as a team, especially for an uptempo one, Wroten notwithstanding. Interestingly enough, both teams are among the worst in the country (ranking in the 280s) at creating turnovers.
Offensive Rebounding %: Washington 38.0 (32), Oregon 28.2 (287)
This is the most glaring difference. Oregon has been terrible on the boards, on both ends, and Washington is really, really good. As I said in the Wazzu recap, the Ducks looked a lot better on the boards in that game, especially Olu Ashaolu. They'll have to get after it in this one. This is my biggest worry.
Free Throw Rate: Oregon 47.3 (18), Washington 34.1 (215)
Its so strange that Oregon, a perimeter oriented team, is one of the best in the country at getting to the line. Washington isn't so great at it. Neither team is any good at making them once they get there, Oregon shooting 67% as a team, Washington shooting 64%.
KEYS TO THE GAME:
Keep Washington off the offensive boards:
Oregon is a good team at forcing opposing teams into tough shots. However, all too often, that has simply led to an offensive rebound and easy putback. Washington feasts on the offensive boards. With Oregon's size, there has never been any excuse. Washington State was a good first step. Time to build on it.
Hold onto the ball:
Washington isn't good at forcing turnovers. Oregon will do themselves a big favor if they don't help UW in that regard.
Shoot 75% from the line:
The Ducks should get a lot more free throw opportunities than the Huskies. If they can do a good job capitalizing on those, I like Oregon's chances at the upset.
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I'll just leave this here
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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Tim Hardaway likes this pic.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on Dec 31, 2011 3:42 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
nothing stingy about Zubaz
they give you room to roam
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Dec 31, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
Zubaz are stingy with good looks.
Santa Claus' #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 31, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
ESPN Accuscore sucks
It still has Jabari Brown scoring and Austin Kuemper playing. Also no Brett Kingma.
Nice 3 Sim.
I like how we can shoot the basketball now.
by FromAutzenWithLove on Dec 31, 2011 7:16 PM PST reply actions
I hate the zone defense
especially against Uw. Every one of their players can shoot
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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I like this. Ducks basketball on a TV in HD.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Dec 31, 2011 7:20 PM PST via Android app reply actions
Never leave Wilcox open. Never
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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WTF. The Uw guy knocks our guy over and nothing called?
Total bullshit
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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Last I heard you aren't allowed to just plow over the screen setter
maybe shit has changed…
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 7:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
these refs are garbage early
hopefully Uw get a big lead and their shitty calls don’t matter. This is the kind of game that I want Altman to get a T in just to show he cares and sticks up for his players
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
These refs suck already
Oregon has to get the ball down low soon
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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we're going to get blown out
can’t handle the ball, can’t rebound, and can’t find shooters
--Dave
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Yeah, I don't expect this game to end well
unless we start taking it to the hoop and get some of their guys in foul trouble
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Refs listening to the home crowd/coach for calls. nice
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 7:28 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Joseph, not so much.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Dec 31, 2011 7:36 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Ha, that was weird.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Dec 31, 2011 7:37 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
much better
the effort is much better right now. We need someone besides Singler to step up offensively
--Dave
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Would love to see Olu start to exert himself down low
Uw is vulnerable inside if you can get the ball there. Their pressure makes it tough though
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
That one ref has made the last 5 foul calls all by himself
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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I feel like punching a picture of Ryan Appleby
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Don't ever leave Wilcox open. Ever.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
We're so out-matched.
And the refs are doing such a bang-up job. Maybe it’d be closer. (UW is hitting everything…might have even hit a few underage girls..overton)
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 7:47 PM PST via mobile reply actions
We're playing really poor defense right now
by FromAutzenWithLove on Dec 31, 2011 7:47 PM PST reply actions
Yeah, our D is not doing much to slow them down
Our offense is even worse. I think we used up all of our shots against WSU.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
The refs are fucking clueless.
Even with their lights-out shooting and our poor everything, we didnt have a chance
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 7:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Our offense has been crap
Our D isn’t bad and Uw is actually playing pretty average, but our O is awful
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
I can stand losing straight up...but clueless refs are why basketball will always be an afterthought as a sport I care deeply about.
Altman has his work cut out for him. Yikes
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 7:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Halftime stats
Oregon is reverting to the mean in shooting going 33% from the field and 15% from 3. They’re doing a good job on the boards with 10 offensive rebounds but that’s not hard when you have 23 missed shots.
Uw is playing pretty average right now shooting 50% from the field and 43% from 3.
Wroten is destroying Oregon inside with 11 points and Wilcox is draining the 3’s with 9 on 3-4 from 3 point land.
For Oregon, take away Singler’s 4-9 shooting and the rest of the team is 7 for 25. Oregon can’t get the ball down low and is starting most of their offense 40 feet away from the hoop. Sim is having his worst game of the year going 2 for 5 shooting with 4 turnovers. Joseph couldn’t hit the ocean standing on the beach as he’s 1 for 7.
Oregon needs to change things up in the 2nd or this isn’t going to end well for the Ducks
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Joseph is struggling going 1 for 10 now in the game
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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Sim is stepping up and has hit 2 3's to start the half
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
How is that now a foul on Ross?
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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More of a clothes-line than an elbow.
Should be a foul for sure
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 8:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
4 point game as Oregon finally finishes a couple of times on the offensive end
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Please stop leaving Wilcox open. Please
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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You might be a better coach than Dana.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 8:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Seriously?
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Dec 31, 2011 8:45 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Come on. shit.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 8:42 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Oregon doesn't have anyone that take their guy off the dribble consistently
Loyd is quick enough but if the other team has any length whatsoever, he’s scrwed. Joseph couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn tonight. Singler isn’t quick enough to get by his man consistently and Sim would probably just turn the ball over if he tried.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Fuck that foul call. seriously.
30 feet from the hoop
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 8:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Fuck that foul call. seriously.
30 feet from the hoop
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 8:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Ballgame. Happy New Year everyone.
Unlike UW, it’s still football season. Go Ducks!
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 8:51 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I hate to say it, but this is the type of game you need Brown and Barron
Brown to be able to take his man off the dribble and settle the offense down, and Barron to lock down a guy like Wroten or Wilcox when they get hot.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
this is the type of game where you need talent?
yep.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
DAT for PG!
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Dec 31, 2011 8:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Problem is
he’d be wide open but wouldn’t be able to catch the pass
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Unfortunately we have talent now
We need elite talent in games like this. The “gritty guys” that fit the system will consistently get beat by teams with elite talent.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Its interesting
for as excited as I was coming into this year, its clear now that we are going to need a few more years. Not only has this team not gelled at all, but the only guards we have coming back are Loyd and Kingma.
:P
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Uw is one of the 2 best teams in the conference
losing on the road to them doesn’t change my perspective of this team. The issue is we’re not further along than where we were last year, even with better players. Guards rule the NCAA bball world and ours right now are “meh.” We’re definitely worlds ahead of where we were a couple of years ago with post play, but we have to get (and keep) some quality guards if we want to compete for NCAA berths consistently.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
its not that we los this game
its that we haven’t made any progress
--Dave
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Altman doesn't like it either
--Dave
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Hey, at least you got the worst night of your career out of the way now Joseph
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
no kidding
just UGLY
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
I'm hoping we only see Wroten for this year.
"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin
i didn't get to see much of the game tonight
but what i did see i did not like at all. what happened? is wazzu just THAT bad?
"Catchphrase! "
by Quacker Backer on Dec 31, 2011 10:40 PM PST reply actions
same question
I saw the first 7 mins then followed the gamecast.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Sucks to lose to those fuckers in any sport.
Meanwhile (for laughs) has anyone noticed over on the ‘Shitonmyshoes’ Mutt lover’s site they have a number of UW fans excited because they think Nick Aliotti will leave Oregon for the joys and excitement of coaching for ‘Sark’ and the rest of the stinkers in Seattle??? Really. I’m not kidding.
No worries mate! Done...and done!
Good luck tonight with the other “W”! Seriously….Good luck! (I want you to win some roses at least once every millenium!)
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