Cliff Harris Dismissed from Oregon Football Team
by jtlight on Dec 5, 2011 2:23 PM PST
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And the wild ride of Cliff Harris comes to an end. According to Andy McNamara of the Oregon Athletic Department:
Oregon has dismissed Cliff Harris from the football program.
[Update] It's pretty easy to guess why Harris was dismissed. Over Thanksgiving break, he was cited for possession of less than an ounce of marijuana in Fresno.
While some Duck fans will wash their hands of Harris, I can't do that. He leaves Oregon as the most exciting and talented cover corner I've ever seen play for the Ducks. He had instincts that you can't teach. Last season, he made Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, and Matt Barkley look silly with some great interceptions. He was electric in the run game, and Oregon would not have made the title game without him.
As McNamara also notes on his twitter account, "Harris leaves as Oregon's career leader in punt return average at 16.2 & is 1 of 4 consensus All-Americas in UO history."
But despite his spectacular sophomore season, Harris never seemed to "get" the Oregon coaching staff. He didn't start for large chunks of last season. Nick Aliotti would always talk about Harris "conforming." With these on-the-field problems, Harris' relatively minor off-the-field issues seemed to push things over the edge.
It's a sad end to a tale that is told all too often in college football. My memory of Cliff will be the spectacular plays and his unforgettable personality. It sucks that it has to end this way. Good luck, Cliff.
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I guess I don't feel too heartbroken. If he was going to thumb his nose at the law and at his superiors constantly, so be it.
It’s a shame that talent is so rarely matched with brains. When they are matched, you get people like Andrew Luck or Drew Brees. When they’re not, you get people like Cliff Harris or Marcus Vick.
Things like that.
Heartbreaking is probably overstating it, so I changed my wording. It just sucks.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Waste is a good word...
Unfortunately CH couldn’t be there for his teammates; his coaches; the Oregon fans; or the students and faculty of the UofO. He couldn’t be there because he was apparently unable to put aside immediate gratification (“Oh, I think I’ll make a run to get a burger! Yeah, that sounds good! Seatbelt? Seatbelts are for losers! So are licenses!!”) for the sake of those who rely (or hoped to rely) on him or even for his own future wellbeing.
I’ll sure miss him. He’s the single most exciting player I’ve ever seen in an Oregon uniform. Perhaps DAT will assume that role in the near future for me. I wish you all the Best, Cliff. But damnit. Learn some DISCIPLINE!
Cliff was great.
Personally, though, I don’t think there’s any doubt that DAT is the most exiting player ever to play for the Ducks.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 5, 2011 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
I know many who agree with you -
And, like I said, perhaps DeAnthony will assume that role for me. I truly hope so (and that it is next season… I have sooooo much confidence in next season!!!) but I can’t forget Harris’s sophomore season. I have never seen one like it from a Duck.
And I still believe, had Harris not fucked it up, the LSU game would have been different with Cliffy back there on punts – and the SC game would have been entirely different with his talent in the backfield.
Water under the bridge though.
It is most definately a PISSER OF EPIC PROPORTIONS that he’s gone, though by this time I’m used to him being gone.
by ConfofChamps on Dec 5, 2011 10:35 PM PST up reply actions
jesus...
‘…with his talent in the DEFENSIVE backfield’.
It’s late.
G’night.
by ConfofChamps on Dec 5, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions
Cliff hasn't stomped a player (that we know of)
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
This comment comes across to me as harsh and unnecessary. Especially without knowing everything that weighed into this outcome. I realize that Cliff has made a lot of mistakes, and I trust Chip’s ability to manage situations such as these with fairness and consistency. I don’t, however, see it as your place to assume Harris has “thumbed his nose at his superiors constantly”, or to say he doesn’t have “brains”. These are the sentiments of a spoiled, arrogant and assuming fan.
by jmehl on Dec 5, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Truth.
His legal transgressions were hardly anything major, too. Not that it’s cool, but he’s also not slinging crack.
The real shame of the matter is this could have been a truly special season for him, and Oregon.
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I feel differently about Cliff Harris’ dismissal than I did about Oregon problem children.
Cliff never struck as a chest-thumping thug like a Masoli or a Blount. With Cliff, you just saw a stupid kid who was given the chances to grow up but never could.
Saddening and frustrating. Especially considering what a supreme talent he was.
by BarkeviousRingo on Dec 5, 2011 11:54 PM PST up reply actions
Well, piss
I wonder what the final straw was. I had given up on ever seeing the guy take the field for Oregon again, so I’m not devastated, but so much talent, so little brains.
Good Luck Cliff!
I wish Cliff the best. I agree with the decision, but it’s a shame. Easily one of the most talented players I’ve never seen put on an Oregon uniform.
Unversity of Oregon, Class of 2006. Currently spreading the Duck love in Ann Arbor, MI.
My memory
Is him single handedly out scoring the entire colorado team.
by doomsdaymachine on Dec 5, 2011 3:08 PM PST via mobile reply actions 7 recs
Considering the final score...
anybody who scored in that game for the Ducks single handedly outscored the entire colorado team.
"Ain't nothin' in this world for free."
I think he's referring to the safety that Cliff gave to the Buffs.
by Jonathan Wright on Dec 5, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
Sad
that’s the last memory I’ll have of him
by INducktrination on Dec 6, 2011 7:17 AM PST up reply actions
I'm really sad
Cliff Harris did a ton his first year. He was a character, fun, energetic, and has ridiculous talent. He was a very big reason that we went to the NCG last year, and claiming otherwise is a ridiculous whitewashing of history. His returns were great, his coverage was great, and he was a force.
I don’t know why he got dismissed. Grades are as good a supposition as any.
I really do hope no matter what that he has great success going forward. If not here, somewhere else.
Thanks for 2010, Cliff.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Without cheese, nachos are just a pile of chips with a bunch of stuff on them. They may still be really, really delicious and satisfying, but they just won’t be as good and they certainly won’t give you as much indigestion.
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Good lord
Not waiting too long to begin the eventful Oregon Offseason™, are we?
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
Big game coming up...
Better to get this out of the way so Chip doesn’t have to be distracted by it.
He can focus and get the Ducks ready for battle.
When Moseley goes on vacation
bad things happen.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
This
Mos def.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Dec 5, 2011 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This Made Me Laugh, In Spite of the General Suckureal State of Affairs Around Here Today.
Let’s see, in the last 24 hours:
1. BCS Travesty. Too Much Exposure to Craig James Syndrome (Symptoms: Rage, Rage, Desire to punch TV)
2. Learn BCS Bowl guys are charities and don’t pay taxes [Do we need any more proof there is no GOD?].
2. Cliff Harris is History.
3. Rose Bowl tickets sold out in under 60 seconds.
So I was like all:
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
What a looooooooooooooong strange trip it's been.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 5, 2011 3:28 PM PST reply actions
Bill Walton?
You keep your tradition, I'll have my electric neon Tron PCP uniforms, thank you very much.
SO NIKE ENTERTAINMENT
The grateful dead sounds about right. That's where we are wrt Cliffy.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
NOT a real good time:-(
We will miss you Cliff. Good luck wherever you go, as long as you don’t play against us.
It sucks that he’s gone but he was probably gone after this year anyways. Here’s my favorite Kash quote & him getting 2 INTs off of Luck is probably my favorite moment partly because I was there
Is he draft eligible?
Or does he have another year before he gets there?
I don't know if it matters.
I’m not convinced he’s draft-worthy right now.
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by ProbablyMonty on Dec 5, 2011 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Some NFL team is though
and that’s all that matters
"If you type two spaces after a period, you're doing it wrong."
Harris won't make an NFL roster
He’s too poor a tackler and he’s not big enough to make special teams. He might make a practice squad…
by dfb on Dec 5, 2011 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
That’s just not true at all. He was a potential first round draft pick before the off the field problems. He has the physical talent to play at the next level.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Wasn't he was projected as the highest draft pick coming out of Oregon since Ngata?
I’m sure he has slipped a bit due to not playing and issues with coaching but he will surely get drafted at a decent round.
I sincerely doubt he would have been drafted in a higher slot than Jonathan Stewart.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 5, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
I don't
He was already being considered a strong first round pick last year given his performance. Assuming he had a similar performance and given how valuable shutdown corners that can also return the ball are, I think he could have been quite highly picked. Patrick Peterson is a good example – he got picked 5th by Arizona.
Patrick Peterson was one of the highest-rated cornerbacks to come along in years.
Cliff is an excellent cover corner (when interested), and accident-prone returner, a great ballhawk, a terrible tackler, not good in run support. Any team taking him early would be taking a huge chance.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 5, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
Deion Sanders basically refused to tackle.
And I’m no sure what you mean by “not big enough to make special teams.” Punt returners aren’t usually the most imposing specimens on a football team.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 5, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
He was projected to go in the draft
I think there will be NFL interest in a consensus All-American, if not just for his potential. He has innate instincts and skills some team will take a chance on. I’d love to watch him on Sundays, since he won’t be playing Saturdays any longer.
Like I suppose many, I hoped he’d stay out of trouble and come back next year. Too bad He’s got innate instincts to find trouble.
He’s listed as a third round pick still on a variety of different mock drafts, including comments about his 118mph incident and very recently updated. The comments pretty consistently say that in the 3rd round someone is going to take the risk on a 1st round talent. Don’t forget that NFL teams can just cut guys and no guaranteed contracts for the guys drafted after the first 2 rounds so someone will draft him.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 5, 2011 9:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Clif Harris might be convinced he's draft worthy
even if nobody else does. He’s almost certainly better served with another year or two in college to mature both physically and mentally, but his past decision making skills don’t convince me that he’s going to be realize that.
He was a potential first rounder
it’s not like he is just delusional in thinking he is good at football, he was an all american as a sophomore.
as a punt returner tho
not as a CB.
Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?
My name is not Bryce.
I want to pu my _____ in puddles' ______
And make him _______PLEASURE.
by Im Chris Hansen on Dec 5, 2011 6:41 PM PST up reply actions
He was an all american at Corner for Scout.com, and a consensus All American at punt returner.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Not true. I posted in the other thread and don’t want to copy it because I’m on a tablet. But if you are interested in the truth/facts about Cliff and the draft you can check my comment in the quack fix with multiple links to different draft resources updated in the past week(s). He was basically kicked off the team already as far as draft experts were concerned sothis isn’t going to change much.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 5, 2011 8:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Football's still a team game
He had a ton of talent, maybe more than anyone else on the Ducks team, but reading between the lines, and watching from the stands revealed several things. First, he freelanced too much, and for every great play he put other players in really difficult positions. Football is still a team game and it’s as important to play the scheme as to make the occasional great play. There were several times I watched Harris make some really stupid plays or be completely out of position. This drives coaches nuts and hurts the defense overall. The occasional great play will never overcome that.
I wish him luck, it’s tough to see so much talent go to waste.
Reminds me of Allen Iverson (or Nate Robinson) to use a different sport analogy
small, tons of talent to overcome their size, can make great plays no one else can and will also cost you big and drives his coaches nuts.,
Ted Miller implied that the perception of cliff as a player was greater among the fans than the coaches
Agree or disagree?
Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon
by Gekko Mojo on Dec 5, 2011 3:44 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Fans didn’t have to deal with Cliff every day. Coaches did, so I’d say that’s a pretty fair assessment.
But it’s pretty tough to deny how great his 2010 season was.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Maybe Oregon coaches. But the All America selections indicate football people, coaches include, think he was pretty freaking good. And if he wasn’t a good as fans think, why did he get all these chances and still end up starting again every time?
by MarineCorpsDuck on Dec 5, 2011 9:09 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
When you tell someone to do something a certain way every day for a year and a half… and they still don’t do it, it’s bound to get a little frustrating.
I’m sure the coaches were incredulous at what Cliff did. But they’d probably also acknowledge his immense talent.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
He also made strides towards "conforming"
As quotable by the coaches.
"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly
he also seems to have an amazing ability to be in the wrong place as well.
I told you to go to your room!
When you move at 118, you end up in a lot of places.
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by Bill Musgrave on Dec 6, 2011 8:13 AM PST up reply actions
Well a big fuck
I totally grooved on Cliff, both on and off the field. Good luck Cliff!
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
Good luck Cliff!
It’s too bad things didn’t work out but I wish him the best of luck in the NFL.
by builds character on Dec 5, 2011 4:41 PM PST reply actions
Opportunity cost
Hi everyone. I’ve been reading ATQ pretty much everyday for two years and decided to jump in. I hate to see it end this way for Cliff but it doesn’t surprise me. I guess they would make a decision after the season ended and looks like that is exactly what happened. To me it’s the opportunity cost. What’ do they have to give up to keep Cliff vs what they can gain by letting him go. I assume this frees up a scholarship and that spot might very well go to a highly sought after recruit. I wish him luck and thanks for the memories
Welcome! And I agree with Quinn
Doubt that the decision was made with that in mind, but it’s certainly an upside. His suspensions this year meant basically a scholarship wasted that could have gone to someone who could have been productive on the field or getting redshirted for the future.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
AAArrrrrrrwwaaaaraaawawaa Chewy needs a hug now.
bye cliffy! I wish you all the best and hope you find what you’re looking for.
Grrrrrrrrrwwwaaaaawwaaaaaaaa Ducks!
We have a bingo
Cliff Harris cited for less than an ounce of Marijunana over thanksgiving
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Makes me wonder
what they were doing that prompted the cop to question them. Maybe they had a doob going and he caught a whiff. On the other hand Cliff is such a cop magnet that simply showing his face in public might be inducement enough.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
I'm disappointed
less than an ounce? When you said you smoked it all, I was expecting a whole goddamn plant. Less than an ounce is nothing.
He was obviously in the process
of smoking it all. That’s the only logical explanation.
"My dearest Apollo, I'll be burning Star IV."
He was walking when he got stopped
He wasn’t even driving. Weak Cliff.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Oy.
WHY HADN’T THEY SMOKED IT ALL?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Dec 5, 2011 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
Cliff Har-ris?
Doesn’t ring a bell.
Seriously though, sad to see someone go so high only to fall so far. 100% his fault though.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
My name's Cliff Harris...
I’m here to lock an Ontario Smith impersonation down.
My memory of Cliff will always be the electriying interceptions at Tennesse, Stanford and SC in 2010
*
What a shame. What a goddamned shame.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
What a shitty teammate
Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?
My name is not Bryce.
I want to pu my _____ in puddles' ______
And make him _______PLEASURE.
All 30,000 of them? Seriously?
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
GODDAMN IT
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
I got in at 7:02.
Gone.
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Got held up and I was 4 mins late - tried at 7:04 right as I saw that post..
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
PEOPLE WITH TICKETS -- CAN YOU TELL ME WHICH SIDE OF THE STADIUM/WHICH SECTION?
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
I don’t know yet. Mine just say reserved so we’ll see
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Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
thanks, Dom!
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
The inside.
I hope.
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by benzduck on Dec 5, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I started stalking the site around 6:45
(still didn’t let me in until 7, but at least I was about to get in)
There's no crying in baseball!
by gigglingone on Dec 5, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I got in at 7:01
In for two. If I’d known, I would have grabbed more.
No idea where the seats are. Guessing end zone, if there were only 1000 left after the season holders bought up their share for resale to UW fans. donation to local charities.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
FUCK FUCK FUCK!!!
Of course you can go to Stub Hub and get god damned nose bleeds for $250. I thought there were anti-scalping laws against this shit. Looks like I’ll be watching it with god damned Musburger and Kirk on Herb Street.
Herb street?
Isn’t that Cliff’s neighborhood?
/toosoon?
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Dec 5, 2011 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Rec and a rim shot!!
No it is not too soon….
"Trick or Treat is not just some remark you chant idly like the Lord's Prayer, it's a social contract."
-Bart Simpson
There is still the Public Ticket Sale by the Rose Bowl....
Public Ticket Sale
Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2011
Time: 8 a.m. (PST)
Seller: Ticketmaster
Phone/Website: (866) 583-1399 or ticketmaster.com
Tickets per person: A maximum of two (2) tickets per call, maximum of four (4) tickets per person. Single tickets are available.
Price: $150 – $175 per ticket plus any Ticketmaster handling fees
Method of Payment: VISA, Mastercard, American Express and Discover.
(from http://www.tournamentofroses.com/TheRoseBowlGame/Tickets/RoseBowlGame.aspx)
There's no crying in baseball!
oh hey, great! thanks hugely for the info!
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
I tried this route last time and struck out
I would suggest you call ticketmaster about 5-10 minutes early, buy some other tickets, and “oh while I’m on the line, let me get some rose bowl tickets that go on sale in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1….”
and have the website up and running in case that is quicker…..
There's no crying in baseball!
ok! thanks for the tip!
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Let's hope that the Fulmer Cup stuff that we normally reserve for the off-season is over with for 2012.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Looking at it optimistically, perhaps there's a silver lining
LeGarrette Blount gets suspended - we discover LaMichael James
Jeremiah Masoli gets suspended/kicked off team — we discover Darron Thomas
Cliff Harris kicked off team — ? (Troy? Can he be the next Cliff Harris?)
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Cliff made room for Mitchell this year, and he's put it to good use.
TMitch, Hill and Ifo all got good experience with him out of the picture. And LMJ was able to help his NFL stock by returning punts.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Dec 5, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
And Ifo.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Dec 5, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
I think that Ifo will become a fantastic player.
He got a lot of PT against WSU, and he generally played very well. He also seems like a very physical player, and I think that a hard hitting corner may be a great asset in a pass heavy conference.
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
Well that's disappointing.
I really hoped that Cliff could be a Blount story, rather than a Masoli or Holland. Here’s hoping everything works out well for him in the long run.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
I was really hoping he was going to pull himself together. Best of luck to him.
I suppose need a new signature now.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Less than an ounce of weed?
Ugh. When you’ve got strikes against you, I guess that’s all it takes.
Too much oopsie, Cliff, best of luck.
Euler's #1 fan
Isn't that the amount Masoli was dismissed for, or did he have more than an ounce?
Addicted to Quack, #1 Oregon blog among female Duck fans, including the ageless and ever-radiant daisyduck.
Any weed is too much weed
when you’re already in CK’s doghouse.
Mmmmnnnnn…….weeeed.
My parents believed in me.
I dunno.
Seems like Masoli stole a guitar or a circus elephant or some felony though.
Cliff was merely wanted in 8 states for unpaid parking tickets, right?
What in the world were we paying their agent for if he can’t pick up the tab on that shit.
Euler's #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 5, 2011 8:37 PM PST up reply actions
I think you got it mixed up.
Cliff was wanted in eight states for stealing a circus elephant and driving 118 mph in a T-top Trans Am. Dom DeLuise and Jackie Gleason were also involved.
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by HoodRiverDuck on Dec 5, 2011 8:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Cannonball!
It’s good to see you again, Captain Chaos.
Euler's #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Dec 5, 2011 8:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
“Well, hello there, Hotpants! Now, you wouldn’t happen to have a drivers license tucked down in there, would you?”
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Dec 6, 2011 9:25 AM PST up reply actions
Well, if you have less than an ounce, it's a fair bet that's because you've already smoked it all, right?
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Sigh, the perils of recklessness (but really, what the heck is wrong with this guy)
Ndamukong Suh passengers actually were injured, and he reportedly lied (allegedly) to the cops.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
man, that's a scary story and pretty repugnant picture all in all. Suh refuses to acknowledge injuries
Didn’t get them medical help. Wow, what a sweetheart. I used to be this guy’s biggest fan up to Thanksgiving Day.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Why do I get the urge to
walk down to Autzen and pour a natty light on the endzone field turf and tell no one in particular that I’ll miss Cliff
It's oddly fitting that the last time CH13 touched the ball in an Oregon game
he was tackled for a safety, blowing a shutout for his teammates.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
He needs to find his way back into school
And take advantage of an education. If he enters the NFL at this level of maturity he will certainly fall through the cracks and become a statistic. I hope that doesn’t happen, he’s a huge talent and could use at least another year before coming out anyway.
Wolf. Wolfgang Wolf
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