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Evaluating the Ducks in the 2011 NFL Draft

[Bumping to the front page, great read - dvieira]

The NFL draft is one of my favourite events of the year. It brings the promise of new potential to my favourite NFL teams and is the final send off for the great Oregon players we've watched develop. Every year I hope to see the Tampa Bay Buccaneers draft a former Oregon standout, but instead wallow as Jonathan Stewart now carries the ball for the evil Panthers.


With the first round now less than 20 days away, I've decided to take a look at the draft prospects of the Ducks' departing players. In order to limit the numbers, I've only examined the Ducks that participated in the Oregon Pro Day in March (and only the players that were on this year's active roster). In total that's 15 players. Suffice to say, not all of those guys are going to be drafted, so I've focused on those with a legitimate shot of having their name called (in my opinion).

Star-divide

Casey Matthews, LB
The highest ranked of the Duck draft hopefuls. Casey is the only Oregon player I see being drafted high enough that he might be selected to fill a "need" of an NFL team. He played both inside and outside at Oregon and there's been talk of him being able to play both positions at the next level. While scouts like his football knowledge and pedigree, they're a little scared of his size, as he gives up 2 inches and 25lbs to his brother.
I see him projecting to an inside linebacker in a 3-4 or to the Sam backer in a Tampa 2 style 4-3. In neither system is that "The Guy," which will allow the coaches to get his maturity and leadership on the field while possibly masking some athletic shortcomings. While his injury at the combine has moved him down some draft boards to a 4-5th round pick. I see a team taking a chance on his last name and taking a perceived flier on him in the late third round.
Possible drafting teams: Indianapolis, Houston, Chicago

Kenny Rowe, DE/LB
Kenny wasn't invited to the Combine, which is a travesty in my mind. Yes his production waned a bit this year, but he was still an impact player when he wasn't being asked to cover Auburn's wide receivers. He plays the swing position of DE/LB really well, but as a "tweener" falls by the wayside in a Draft that is incredibly deep at the DE and 3-4 OLB positions.
But in my opinion Kenny is essentially a lighter version of Terrell Suggs. In fact, Suggs played at a lighter weight earlier in his career, when he was racking up sacks. I see one of either Rex or Rob Ryan, or the Ravens themselves, taking him for some depth and a bit of an experiment. I think he's a late round draft pick, and at worst a Free Agent signing that will crack a lineup in the League.
Possible drafting/signing teams: Jets, Ravens, Cowboys.

Jeff Maehl, WR
Ah yes, let the comparisons to Austin Collie, Wes Welker, and Kevin Curtis begin. Except, as we've learned, the whole scrappy white guy in the slot isn't all there is to Mr. Maehl's play. Oh yeah and setting a combine record in the 3 cone drill, tops in the 60 yard shuttle, and 2nd in the 20 yard shuttle at his position may have revealed what us Oregon fans already know, the man does is best work when he can get down field and get some separation. Add to that his solid perimeter blocking game, and a team that likes to run it outside and mix it up in the passing game will pick him up in the fifth. My guess is that joins a former teammate on a team that could use his special teams play as an heir apparent to their own player of his ilk, the Steelers (Hines Ward) or Carolina (Mushin Muhammad)
Possible drafting teams: Pittsburgh, Carolina, Jacksonville.

Brandon Bair, DT/DE
Mike Mayock has labelled him as a steal of a pick for a team that needs a 3-4 DE. Yes he's light for that position, but if there's a role we've seen this man play well it's to crash the line, take on blockers, and knock the ball down. That's everything you would want in a 3-4 end. Mayock has him going at the top of the 4th round. I think he falls a little due to his age, but is drafted around the end of the 4th or beginning of the 5th.
Possible drafting teams: New England, Houston, Kansas City.

Talmadge Jackson III, CB
"The Curtain." Apparently a first team All Pac-10 selection isn't enough to warrant much draft consideration from the "experts." TJ III is a player who has found his way on to the field consistently since his first game as a true freshman brings a lot of experience with him. And given the success of Byrd, Chung, and Ward in the league I think the Oregon DBs are establishing a reputation among coaches. I was surprised at how early Ward was drafted last year (though Mr. Takimoto called it in his Draft Day open thread). I think there will be some coach out there who recognizes the talent, even if he is a bit undersized and spends a late round draft pick on him. At worst he's a free agent pick up to play special teams or play on the practice squad.
Possible drafting/signing teams: Denver (John Fox seems to like Oregon Players), any other team needing a CB.

 

I think that's it for Oregon Players who will be drafted, but I'll offer some quick hits on the other Pro Day participants.

Javes Lewis: Maybe Javes and his agent are aware of something I'm not.
My Prediction for 2011: University of Phoenix diploma recipient.

DJ Davis: Reliable if unspectacular wide receiver, who is familiar with a spread offense and at his best when he is blocking at mid level and down field. Sounds like an ideal CFL receiver to me.
My Prediction for 2011: 2 touchdown catches for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.

Spencer Paysinger: A good showing at the Oregon Pro day and an All Pac 10 honourable mention may lead to an outside shot at a free agent signing.
My Prediction for 2011: He joins some Oregon Alum on the Las Vegas Locos of the UFL.

Marvin Johnson: Might rotational defensive play and standing out on special teams be enough to get him onto an AFL team?
My Prediction for 2011: Wearing jersey number 7 on defense for the Iowa Barnstormers.

Bo Thran and Jordan Holmes: While both were serviceable, reliable performers on the Line that earned conference honours, they're not on the standard professionally of Unger, Schwartz, or Tuopo. I think Holmes probably has the size and smarts to play professionally somewhere, but Thran will be a stretch.
My prediction for 2011: Holmes, depth on a CFL or UFL OLine. Thran, Oregon Graduate Assistant.

Malachi Lewis: Is there much of a professional market for a third string collegiate Tight End? What's that? Jordan Cameron (USC), whose career receiving stats (16 rec, 126yds, 1TD) are entirely from his senior year, is the 4th ranked TE in the draft and got a combine invite? That makes sense.
My prediction for 2011: Cameron is considered to be very athletic, Lewis' highlights on his Goducks.com page lists "third fastest time among TEs at winter timing." Lewis will help coach high school football in Oxnard while owning a construction company.

Chad Peppars: In my opinion Chad was the TJ III of the backups and special teams, solid career while not entirely noticeable.
My Prediction for 2011: Have you heard of the Continental Indoor Football League? I wonder if Mr. Peppars has...

Bryson Littlejohn: An integral part of the Linebacker rotation the past two years, and one of the more athletic players on the defense.
My Prediction for 2011: Graduate Assistant, University of Oregon. Defensive MVP, Littlejohn family Thanksgiving Football game.

Andres Reed: Andres, Thank you for your efforts in the New Mexico and Portland State games. Much appreciated.
My Prediction for 2011: Standout in the Medford Community.

Am I on the mark? Way off? Let me know your thoughts.

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Good read, thanks for the effort.

I think all of these are pretty much on target. Maehl seems like the one guy that, despite the “untalented but scrappy” label, might have done enough during the past two years and then at the combine to create a little buzz and get a surprise pick in round 3 or something, but probably not. Round 5 or 6 would not definitely not be shocking. If anybody is paying attention to the blocking that comes with the routes and catches, maybe he gets a higher look. I personally didn’t think he would make the NFL as of last year but I’m doubting myself on that now, just never went away, proved himself most times, got better and better. Matt and Shu will point to some dropped passes but I think those are exceptions to the rule, a few bad games.

Maehl to the Steelers would make Musgrave a very happy boy, until he doesn’t play like Dixon and I start to hate my own team again.

Each time I read anything on the Ducks going into the draft, it just amazes me how much of an overall team we were last year with very few first round level standouts. Even LaMike is probably going to get labelled “too small” when it’s his turn.

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by Bill Musgrave on Apr 10, 2011 9:40 AM PDT reply actions  

Agreed, great write up.

Bill I think ya right about Maehl, but I get this feeling that he may have a lot of upside in the long haul. He reminds me of a taller Samie Parker and someone who could grow into a solid 3rd option starter and be around for a while. I could even see him last longer than CM just because of the nature of the positions.

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by DamienS on Apr 10, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maehl's a really interesting draft prospect

He never really had the numbers in college to garner tons of attention from NFL teams, but then he had a really good combine and you know he’s a hard worker just by watching his blocking in games.

I’m sure someone is going to take a chance on him as a slot receiver. How high in the draft is anyone’s guess.

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by Matt Daddy on Apr 10, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

i’m guessing Jim Harbaugh (and my 49ers) takes him in the 4th round.

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by NEP on Apr 10, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

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by qrsouther on Apr 10, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know what I meant; I had food poisoning yesterday. Please disregard.

Truth be told: I am having difficulty, regardless of the “pipeline” or history, with a former Pac-10/12 coach as a (head) coach on my pro team. He’s an excellent coach and I’m happy he will not be in the Pac-12 next year, but it’s still very weird. I meant to ask Seahawks fans how they cope.

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by DuckUntilDeath on Apr 11, 2011 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I could use a Jeff Maehl Niners jersey...

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by Takimoto on Apr 10, 2011 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

We're not drafting Maehl.

If we draft a receiver, it’ll be a deep threat. We’ve got Crabtree and Vernon Davis to run <20 yard routes already.

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by Takimoto on Apr 10, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now that you two have that all figured out

can you guys work on the whole lockout situation and clear that up too? Thanks guys. Your work is much appreciated.

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by Matt Daddy on Apr 10, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maehl is a clutch receiver, not just this year but throughout his career he’s been the guy to step up and convert key downs or bring the ball in on “must have” plays. That’s not going to make him a second round pick but I see him going in that late 3rd to mid 5th round range. Someone is going to look at his reel and say “He’s not going to catch the 60 yard bomb or blow past Darrelle Revis, but he’ll go over the middle and snag the ball on 3rd and 5 every time.” I think he’ll make it onto a team.

by JonathanPDX on Apr 10, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree fully.

I think he’ll go around the 5th to a team that knows how to use a skilled slot receiver.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Apr 10, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’d look for teams who have a young quarterback and lack a great receiving tight end. Young QB’s always need an outlet or safety valve and, lacking a strong TE, a slot guy like Maehl could fill that role.

by JonathanPDX on Apr 10, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is so wrong, because we all know that Maehl will go #1 overall, Casey will go #2, and Rowe, Bair, and TJ3 will round out the top 5 overall.

Javes, Paysinger, Johnson, Thran, Holmes, Lewis, Peppars, and Littlejohn will all be first round picks. Andres Reed won’t go in the first round, but he’ll be a second round steal.

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 10, 2011 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Costa has to fit in there somewhere too.

The Colts will probably grab him before thee end of the second round.

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by AcadianTraverse on Apr 10, 2011 3:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Okay, back to being serious.

Perhaps it’s just homerism, but I honestly think that Casey Matthews is being underrated in the draft. Thoughts?

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Apr 10, 2011 2:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Homer

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by Duckfanatic10 on Apr 10, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s slotted about right. 2010 was the first time he really put a full season together. In 200n he had outstanding performances against UCLA and Washington, but tapered off towards the end of the year. Add to that reinjuring his shoulder during workouts, and he’s going to slide a bit.

Keep in mind that in the first and second rounds teams are looking for someone who can contribute immediately or has so much potential they are comfortable paying him top tier money while they work with him. I think Casey falls just short of those classifications.

Who needs normal sleep patterns?

by AcadianTraverse on Apr 10, 2011 3:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I agree with your opinion.

He just isn’t quite the projected second round immediate impact type of player.

I could easily see a team taking him in the mid to lower third round.

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by CaDuck on Apr 10, 2011 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Casey Matthews only is giving up 5 lbs to bro Clay at the time that they were drafted......

Clay has had a few years in the NFL to beef up and was a year and a half older at the time he was drafted.

by ericalancanty on Apr 10, 2011 9:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for the corrections

Though I think Clay was only 8 months older when he was drafted in ‘09. (If the birthdates on the GoDucks.com and NFL.com pages are to be trusted).
There is certainly much empricial evidence to support that the Matthews clan seems to develop a bit later. And while I don’t think Casey is at the level Clay was when he was drafted, I definitely hope he develops to that level in the pros.

Who needs normal sleep patterns?

by AcadianTraverse on Apr 12, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Matthews and Maehl to KC, please

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by ArrowDread on Apr 11, 2011 8:27 AM PDT reply actions  

As a KC fan, I approve

But I wouldn’t mind them drafting someone like Ayers in the 1st round.

by SeattleDucks on Apr 11, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

From a Ravens fan

They are definitely interested in Matthews.
 Rowe-not so much unless as a free agent. Even there they only have about 9 open spots on their roster.

by ursula on Apr 11, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh and Bair

If the Ravens don’t go 3-4 DE in round 1 or 2 then they are definitely looking at Bair late.

by ursula on Apr 11, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I had forgotted about the “Matthews as a possible successor to Ray Lewis” article from a few weeks ago.

Even if the Ravens aren’t looking at Rowe, in your opinion as a fan of both teams is my assessment of his style of play as similar to that of Suggs accurate, or am I projecting too much?

Who needs normal sleep patterns?

by AcadianTraverse on Apr 12, 2011 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I think it is similar too.

And you make a good point with that. In thinking more, sure, the Ravens know of Rowe. Their chances of picking him late or as a FA (which if the Lockout doesn’t get settled before the draft won’t happen after the draft) depend on if they feel a need to go for a 3-4 OLB rush LB type like Rowe or Suggs and don’t pick one early. Someway it seems clear that they will probably draft either one of a 3-4 OLB or 5-technique DE and maybe both. The 5-technique position definitely needs a youth upgrade while the OLB situation is more complicated. They drafted Kindle from Texas last year who promptly fell down some steps. If Kindle is ready to come back they miss the OLB slot all together.

by ursula on Apr 12, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

It should be noted that the Ravens have gone Oregon a few times recently

Ngata of course was/is a big success.

Demetrius Williams couldn’t quite turn the corner to be a starter and had injury problems. He was a close miss and I wonder if he had gone to a better passing team he would have stuck.

Patrick Johnson (2nd round pick) was a bigger miss.

by ursula on Apr 12, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately as a Steeler fan, Ed Dickson has worked out well for you guys too. I really hope Rowe or Bair don’t go to the Ravens. I think both those guys would fit nicely in their system. I’m hoping the Steelers pick up Rowe as a back up to Harrison or Woodley replacement depending on the lockout.

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by Matt Daddy on Apr 12, 2011 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

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