Quack Fix: Ducks get swept by UCLA, Alonso's future at Oregon still in question
by jtlight on May 9, 2011 7:09 AM PDT
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- It was an ugly weekend for Oregon baseball. The pitching showed up, but the batting didn't, and Oregon scored only two runs over three games. On Sunday, they managed only two hits. George Horton described the weekend, "Yuck, yuck, blah." Danny Pulfer, one of the few Ducks that has been performing recently, called the team "soft." The Ducks are 23-23 on the season, and it seems like the team is finally unraveling. Kris will have more on the team later today.
- There are a few bright spots on the baseball team. Tyler Anderson has been a star this season. Kris has a profile on him and his work ethic up at goducks.com.
- At least one Oregon team from the diamond is doing well. The 12th-ranked Oregon softball team took a series from the 10th-ranked Stanford Cardinal with a victory yesterday. The Ducks have won the last three series and sit at 9-9 in the Pac-10. The Ducks seems to be peaking at just the right time. The final series is against UCLA next weekend, and then the Ducks find out about their postseason status.
- Last Friday Kiko Alonso plead guilty to misdemeanor charges of criminal mischief and trespassing. And now Chip Kelly has a very important decision to make, that has caused quite a bit of discussion amongst Duck fans. George Schroeder gave his two cents yesterday, and he does a good job with this piece. It's clear that Chip wants to do right by Alonso the person, but I don't see how playing football at Oregon can be part of his rehabilitation.
- Ted Miller has a spring wrap for Oregon. While the Ducks still have questions at offensive line, receiver, and middle linebacker (after the Alonso suspension), it's great to see that the Ducks look to be improved at the defensive line next year.
- Lastly, Malik Hairston will have to wait for another title shot. His team came in 3rd in the Euroleague finals.
If you've got anything else to share, leave it in the comments. GO DUCKS!
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Schroeder makes a good point on the Alonso situation,
that the two events that led to his suspensions could have ended much worse. If Alonso had broken into just about any house in Texas or parts of rural Oregon, the home owner might have been waiting there with a gun. The DUI has obvious possible deadly consequences as well.
Agreed with Schroeder he cannot return for at least 1 season if not permanently. I’m not sure that the football program can help him by letting him stick around though. The football team is not a 12 step program, and UO is not a good place to live sober. If he is truly serious about changing his life a change of scenery, friends, and situation will be more helpful than whatever support hanging around the football program can offer.
I disagree
DO You think there are no drunk kids in texas or eastern oregon? Thats my 1st probably, most gun owners dont just shoot people no matter how badly they want you to think they do. 2nd, the football team can help him greatly, if your a student athlete that lives your sport, then you are thrown to the curb your escape is gone, and most people deal with this with distructive behavior (drugs, alcohol, violence, etc..) the football team is a great place for him.(he can be on the team, recieve guidance from coaches and be allowed to practice without being able to play) 3rd “uo is not a good place to live sober” hmmm maybe my lifes really sucks and im confused, but I dont drink and I find the campus, community, faculty, etc to be amazing. Actually i do agree with you, its not a good place, its a great place to live sober. 4th “he cant return for at least one season” why not? the kid has a problem so why throw him under the bus? He represents the university as a student athlete, the student part comes first. If they throw regular students under the bus for dui then i agree, but they dont. If he can complete a drug/alcohol program over the summer and shows progress, he should be able to get back on the field. If I was making the decision I would suspend him for 12 games and set an outline of tasks to complete (academic, community, councelling, treatment) and if they were completed I would reduce it to 6 games. Kicking him off the team does nothing to help him or the university (it may give the media/public a hard on to talk about him getting punished)
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by pipgras on May 9, 2011 11:56 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Wow...
this Alonso situation is so polarizing. I am personally conflicted but after Blount, Masoli and LMJ, I am confident that the staff will make a good decision based on their knowledge of the situation. We will never fully understand the scenario and we really don’t have the right as Schroeder intimated. As long as rash of these incidences don’t occur again, I am okay with what the staff decides.
Juju is the same yesterday and today and forever.
I really agree with you
I have a lot of confidence in CK’s integrity and his brains, and I am okay with whatever he decides. It’s his job to figure this out and make the best decision for the team and university. It’s my job to yell ‘O’ and create false start penalties. My job is a lot easier than his, but that’s why he gets the big bucks, and I have to actually pay them for the privledge of doing my job.
Wait…what?
Absurdity is my favorite.
Quit whining and DO YOUR JOB.
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Take a doo doo pie. I love you.
by Bill Musgrave on May 9, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
More excuses. DO YOUR JOB.
Take a doo doo pie. I love you.
by Bill Musgrave on May 10, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think he needs to be kicked off the team
My point is that I don’t think that a football team is what will provide someone with an alcohol problem the guidance they need to get well. Maybe he is just a typical college kid that made a few high profile mistakes and really doesn’t have a problem, but if he does have an issue with substances coaches and teammates are not experts in helping him through that. It is great that you enjoy campus life without alcohol, but for booze is so prevalent and so central to so much of college socializing that someone with a drinking problem will just be bombarded with constant temptation. I think the vast majority of people would say their heaviest drinking and parting years were as an undergrad. Not a great place to be a recovering alcoholic and banned from drinking by a judge
by OregonNYC on May 9, 2011 4:24 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
my experience is different
I got sober about his age, in Eugene. I worked at Max’s for the first year I was sober (as the janitor, but I had a key!), and occasionally at the Vet’s Club, went to Beer Gardens at the EMU, parties at Campbell Club, tailgaters before football games, watched a season turn to crap, all without drinking. I might add that my colleagues at Max’s and the Vet’s Club were not experts in helping with my substance issues. They did not need to be.
It simply does not matter where you are as long as you want to quit and make it a priority.
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on May 10, 2011 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions
OT: How many games
For Andrew Bynum? I don’t think there is any place for that in professional sports. I would be comfortable with a 30 game suspension to send a message.
Quack Quack Bitches!
Such a punk move by Bynum. Even his “explanation” was ridiculous. Stern will probably fine him and give him 5 games. But I’d be comfortable with a long suspension too.
I hope it’s a long suspension. That was so out of line and has no place in any level of sports. My first thought was 20 games.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
5-10 games
He got 2 games for a similar foul on Michael Beasley a few months back. I think this one will be 5-10.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Knowing that
I’d give him a significantly longer suspension, since he didn’t learn his lesson the first time. This was such a high profile game I don’t think you can only give him 5-10.
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by Quack Addict on May 9, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah the pattern of behavior is what is the most concerning...which is why he will get 15-20
This is his second strike in just this season
LOL NBA.
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 9, 2011 11:03 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
No.
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 9, 2011 11:29 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
We're kind of an NBA state
it’s all we’ve really got, it case you haven’t figured it out yet
--Dave
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Surprised no one has mentioned the new TE recruit, at least according to ESPN
Kid from Colorado, committed on Saturday I think
There didn’t seem to be any articles on it, at least that I saw, so I didn’t link to anything, but this article from Rickert (from 3 days ago) just popped up in my RSS feed.
The kid’s got an impressive offer sheet, both athletically and academically. Hopefully this one sticks. Nice to get a couple 4-star kids locked up early.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
you mean that 2 star recruit
becauseoregondoesn’tgetgoodrecruitssoobviouslyhecan’tbeafivestaramirite?
Quack Quack Bitches!
by Quack Addict on May 9, 2011 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions
It was linked a few days ago in a couple spots – including the fanshots.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-R-E-J-E-C-T-E-D"
It sounds like ESPN 150 watch DL Alex Balducci will be the next to commit to the ducks, maybe this week even.
Also, TonyDiFransisco has been taking twitter questions all morning about the 2011/12 targets for the ducks (since the Rivals 100 list was released today), so there’s a lot of interesting stuff on his feed this morning, such as:
TonyDiFrancisco Tony Di Francisco
Position breakdown of the 31 Rivals100 uncommitted prospects interested in Oregon- 8 OL, 5 DE, 3 RB/WR/DT/S, 2 TE/CB, 1 QB/LB
The "Bill Simmons" of ATQ
Bit of an OT question for the masses, but I'm curious about your answers
Better PF/C (taking into account their supporting casts throughout their careers, coaches, injuries, etc): Bill Russell or Tim Duncan?
The "Bill Simmons" of ATQ
Russell
Purely a dominant force.
I credit my urine for the victory.
http://taborsbigleaguechew.blogspot.com
Impossible to make a direct comparison.
Russel was more dominant in his era than Duncan is now, but Russel objectively wasn’t as skilled an all-around player as Duncan.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on May 9, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m bias, because Tim Duncan isn’t just one of my favorite basketball players, but one of my favorite all-around athletes, and I liked watching Tim Duncan and David Robinson together. During the time of the Jail Blazers, Dennis Rodman, and all that jazz, whenever the spurs would win a game, I always viewed it as a “win for the good guys”.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-R-E-J-E-C-T-E-D"
So I have an interesting idea on Kikogate
While I think he has lost his right to wear the Oregon uniform, I also understand that some want to give him support as well.
Pull his scholarship.
I think the decision Kelly has to weigh is the balancing act of keeping the program under control while still being supportive to his players. Make Kiko’s decision his own. Tell him he is welcome to return after another year-long suspension but that he needs to pay his own way and walk-on to the team.
To me a player on scholarship probably shouldnt remain as such should he be suspended for more than a quarter of his eligibility.
This way you give him a chance but you also have him make a sacrifice.
Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?
My name is not Bryce.
by Im Chris Hansen on May 9, 2011 12:59 PM PDT reply actions
Love me some Ted!
Ryan (Eugene)
Any concern that the ducks only have 2 commitments for the class of 2012 so far? It seems like plenty of other teams around the country are stacking up while the Oregon, one of the premiere schools for football in the nation, isnt getting much early talented commits.
Ted Miller (2:50 PM)
Ryan, you should be very, very worried. In fact, I’d suggest some sort of panic. After lunch. Get a good lunch, then panic. But keep reading the blog. Don’t stop doing that while you panic.
PANIC!!! Oh, wait, what’s that? It’s only May? And you’re saying they don’t sign ‘til 2012 and we never start quick? Oh, ok. We’re good then.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
And his take on Kikogate (is that what we're offically calling it now?)
Chip Kelly (Cas Center)
How many games would you suspend Kiko? I have quite the dilemma here – dismiss from team, suspend for the season or suspend for X number of games. What would you do?
Ted Miller (2:30 PM)
Seems like there’s a lot of momentum – even among fans — to give him the boot. I understand that. Me? I’d suspend him for three games and require he quit drinking and complete rehab, which is where all his issues start.
That’s more lenient than I would have suspected.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on May 9, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He’s from the south. Atlanta I believe.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on May 9, 2011 1:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Please, no more "Kikogate"
This fascination with ending random misdeeds with the word “gate” escapes me.
Prince: This bores me. Is anyone up for a game of basketball?
Yes, this endless "gate" stuff is really annoying
Makes me wish the DNC headquarters in 72 had been established in a place with a less catchy name.
Either or that or Nixon not order a break-in to the headquarters and then spearhead a cover-up that led him to resign.
One of those things.
Some want to "gatekiko"
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. WWWWWWWWWWWWin The Day
Way to make a gategate out of this
I credit my urine for the victory.
http://taborsbigleaguechew.blogspot.com
by mackjones23 on May 9, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
One can only accept the inevitable.
Like herpes, the “gate” meme will never go away.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on May 9, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, getting worried about all the grousing coming from Huff on his twitter feed
Had a long talk with my boy Kash. Coaches act as if I’m nonexistent and continue to throw me under the bus. Guess what…I’ma show em.
Among other things he also “hates” Eugene….doesn’t sound good.
To Alcohol: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems!
Meh.
Probable translation: “I’m not doing everything I need to do to take the next step and the coaches are calling me on it.”
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on May 9, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Awesome. Glad to see more social networking drama on the horizon.
"I'll give any teller who gives me a lollipop 4 stars."-Chip Kelly
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on May 9, 2011 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Love that Harris is the wily vet the young kids go to.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on May 9, 2011 2:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
his prior tweet indicated he had problem with
harris…
probably just a way to keep himself fired up, especially after missing most of spring training.
To Alcohol: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems!
Probably WR / CB smack
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. WWWWWWWWWWWWin The Day
Worrying about this type of stuff is pretty pointless. It’s stream of consciousness, everyone’s gonna have ups and downs.
If anything, this tweet is encouraging due to how Harris and Huff seemed to handle it.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I tend to agree
but with a lot of followers one needs to exercise better judgment in my opinion. and…it’s been going on for some time.
To Alcohol: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems!
I need a reason to panic...
the thought of not having huff caused palpitations.
Juju is the same yesterday and today and forever.
If you have followed Josh Huff for awhile
You’ll realize he’s just a kid. I know he probably doesn’t look at himself that way, but by all the things he tweets, most of them seem to be born not of a ton of maturity.
What I find most interesting is that by following all of these athletes, the ones from Oregon, and other colleges, is you get a small window into their world and know a bit more about them by being a voyeur to their tweets.
Dior Mathis for example is one of the most positive, happy people of all the duck tweeters. Matt Barkley (sorry I follow him too) is a hick cowboy who devotes his life to God. James Rodgers tweets a lot, but says little. There are tons of things you learn.
The hardest part for me is not replying to some of the crazy tweets that they post. But, it’s helping me learn restraint.
"David Paulson dropped a ball one time just to see what it felt like. But he didn't like it so he decided not to do it again." -Mark Asper
Don't have to follow him to understand he's "just a kid."
He’s a college sophomore. By definition, he’s “just a kid.” Kids = teh stoopidz. See Masoli, J, Holland, J, Blount, L, etc.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on May 9, 2011 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes its best to keep the image of who you think they are
Huff was, and still is, one of my favorite players in part because of the mature, respectful manner he handles interviews with.
Then, to follow him on Twitter, you understand he’s portrays more of a, shall we say, rougher demeanor?
I also follow Carson York, who seems to be very interested in his major (journalism/advertising) and actually links to to some though provoking and interesting subjects. Proving once again that the 0-linemen are the true intellectuals of the team.
To Alcohol: The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems!
OH MY GOODNESS!!!
Take a doo doo pie. I love you.
by Bill Musgrave on May 9, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do I picture him just laughing “ha haaa!” for all 4 qtrs vs UW?
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
by NEP on May 9, 2011 8:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
If you are in the mood to smile........
Go watch the TJ Ward hit on zac robinson on you tube. Amazing hit, and fun to remember how much that hit changed the entire momentum of that football game. Go DUCKS!
P.S. Sorry I don’t know how to link or I would have posted the link
by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on May 9, 2011 9:54 PM PDT reply actions
you just posed an interesting question
from the 2008/2009 season, is there ONE play that you feel changed the momentum of Oregon Football (like, that flipped the switch)?
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