Quack Fix: Revenge of Jerry Allen, Military Training, Kellen Moen, and Jeremiah Masoli
by dvieira on Jun 2, 2011 7:55 AM PDT
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- Our man Rob Moseley dug into the football team's Military training regiment and found out some interesting details despite the closed-lipped nature of University of Oregon officials. For those concerned about the NCAA legality, "The Program" is covered under the 8 weeks of mandatory strength and conditioning training in the off-season that coaches are allowed to attend.
- George Horton talked about learning a valuable lesson as a coach yesterday. Don't buy into your own team's hype. Horton goes on to say that he will be more pessimistic and humble in the future. On a personal level, that pessimism might also exist because of the heavy roster turnover for next year. I will say that it's refreshing for a coach to own up and talk about the mistakes he's made without trying to dance around them in a political fashion.
- The Daily Emerald has a nice feature on pitcher Kellen Moen as he moves on from the University of Oregon and reflects on his last game in the green and yellow.
- Houston Nutt was extremely happy with Jeremiah Masoli's impact on the Ole Miss locker room and what he brought to the table in terms of work ethic. I admit that I was disappointed by Masoli's actions but I think we can all agree now that Justin Roper should have kept the quarterbacking job. Ah hindsight.
- And finally, remember how up in arms everyone was when Joe Giansante pushed Jerry Allen into a swimming pool? Harmless prank? Douche move? Well don't worry. Someone got a little payback in Joe Giansante's last baseball game.
Have a great day out there and if you're in Oregon, I swear... it is June. The weather just hasn't figured it out yet. Go Ducks!
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I admit that I was disappointed by Masoli’s actions but I think we can all agree now that Justin Roper should have kept the quarterbacking job. Ah hindsight.
Nope!
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-A-B-O-O-B-J-O-B"
Nope!
Why, you’re naught but a Brady Leaf apologist, say I.
THAT'S RIGHT, Kenny Wheaton you did. You cut back into GREATNESS.
by HoodRiverDuck on Jun 2, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
Whats wrong with trading personal items
I just don’t understand how the NCAA can really tell someone they can’t trade in their own personal property for personal gain. It’s their own property, it has to be some-kind of breach of constitutional rights. I understand if it was allowed to run rampant boosters would use it as a loop hole to funnel money to recruits, but it’s their stuff they earned. i was just wondering if anyone can explain how they get away with it and if you think it’s a good policy or not.
"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly
Athletes trading their stuff is not illegal,
you wont go to jail for it, so the constitution doesn’t have anything to do with it, let’s not get all dramatic. The NCAA doesn’t allow athletes to trade or sell items that they receive as part of their capacity as a student athlete. If they do it is an NCAA violation. If this player is no longer in the NCAA system they can sell all that stuff or trade it for tattoos all they want.
Regarding it being a good idea, I’m not sure if selling a championship ring at market value is a big deal. However, think about selling other things, like autographs. You think Reggie Bush or Andrew Luck couldn’t sell/have sold hundreds of thousands of dollars in autographed items? Other athletes like lacrosse players couldn’t make jack. So yes, it is a good rule.
And regardless of it being a good rule or not, it is a well known rule that is easy to understand, to Pryor +5 knew they were doing the wrong thing and did it anyway
I’m not debating whether they new it was wrong or not. i just don’t see how selling personal items is a threat to your amateur status.
"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly
The idea is that you don't benefit financially from being an athlete.
That’s what makes one an amateur.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe thats the solution
What if they allowed players to find ways to make financial gains without getting money from boosters. such as autograph signings selling memorabilia etc. it’s obvious not all ,across all sports,will have the same opportunities to make equal revenue but at least they will have money for things that they allegedly “need”
"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly
This is why it will never happen Title IX calls for gender equity
If male athletes are getting most of the benefit from these events, it doesn’t comply. Besides, these guys are getting a pretty great deal. I wish I didn’t have to work full time, and graduate with a shit ton of debt to show for it but I did. The problem is you can’t tell these kids anything. They are getting an education, which statistically speaking means they will earn a Million dollars more over their lifetime than those without one, debt free.
I graduated 10 years ago and I am still paying off my student loans.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
This article is pretty stupid. I don’t know why whenever a job opens closer to the east coast somebody says Chip might leave for it. He has said he loves it here & he’s moved some of his family out here, if he was in such a hurry to leave he wouldn’t have done that. Also why would he even consider Ohio St. right now with what they are about to go through?
Because he's lost control of coaching rumors?
I credit my urine for the victory.
http://taborsbigleaguechew.blogspot.com
by mackjones23 on Jun 2, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I don’t know. It just seems like a really weird fit to me. My intuition is that tOSU would want to at most dip their institutional toe into the waters of spread offense before they hire Chip Kelly to hold their head under said waters.
"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Jun 2, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Chip Kelly going to tOSU is about as stupid of an idea as Rich Rodriguez going to Michigan.
The fans just cannot bring themselves to like that kind of football, and they will never be patient enough to give him the time necessary to implement his system.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Someone on EDSBS had a funny post about this.
He said something like, “Well, RichRod already knows how to beat Michigan.”
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Things wrong with that article:
1) The last thing a coach wants to do is leave a successful program for a blue-blood program recovering from a scandal and with unknown sanctions looming.
2) The money isn’t going to be much better if at all, but the pressure will be enormously greater.
3) The Kelly spread-option at Ohio State? See Rodriguez, Rich for examples of what happens when you install a “gimmick offense” in an old-school Big-10 program. Remember that the conditioning alone has taken since 2007, and we’re just now getting the type of player at all positions needed to really make the offense work as envisioned. While Pryor might be something like an ideal spread QB, you still have a team full of power backs and corn-fed Big-10 linemen rather than the scatbacks and agile linemen more suited to the Kelly spread.
4) He’s an East Coast guy, not a Rust Belt guy. Note to writers: Every school east of the Mississippi isn’t on the East Coast. Learn the difference. Further, South Carolina is literally on the East Coast. Does than mean Chip will go there if the job opens up?
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
3 is a terrible argument. Rich Rodriguez’s offense did quite well in Michigan. They were top-10 offensively last year after he got his pieces in place.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-A-B-O-O-B-J-O-B"
That's not really the point.
The patience of the “Michigan Men” was very thin almost from the get-go. While the problems were mostly on the defensive side of the ball, you heard murmurs of discontent almost from the beginning from the traditionalists.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Most fans at Oregon didn’t know anything about Chip Kelly when he got brought on board. They knew they were replacing their OC. It wasn’t until they saw how different the offense was, that they went “Oh! Cool.”
If fans widely knew we’d be going to some crazy system before, there would be discontent from traditionalists here too.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-A-B-O-O-B-J-O-B"
The change from Croton to Kelly was miniscule in comparison to the change from Lloyd Carr to Rich Rod.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
But the change from 1995 Bellotti to Chip Kelly is pretty similar to a Carr vs. RichRod
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
12 years and an Andy Ludwig later… you’re right. Making that transition over night, especially with a booster program like Michigan that gave it very little chance to prove itself, was pretty much doomed to fail.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Yes I know it didn't happen over night.
But this is one of the things I have really admired about Bellotti, is his ability to evolve as a coach. I don’t think Michigan or tOSU would ever have had the patience that UO had with Brooks or Bellotti. But that’s the problem with tradition isn’t it? You’re always trying to revive a memory, rather than reinventing a new tomorrow. Not to get into politics, but I think this is a common theme in a lot of areas in our country.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
That's my point.
The old-school Michigan boosters had very little patience for RichRod and his wacky new offense from the get go. They were looking for an excuse to fire him almost the minute he lost his first game. That is was the defense that failed him was almost incidental.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
A couple things.
Oregon isn’t Michigan by any stretch in terms of tradition, so that comparison doesn’t stand up. Second, we had already been transitioning to the spread by the time CK came on board, while Michigan was replacing the extremely old-school Lloyd Carr. This makes the comparison even more of a stretch.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes.
If anything, they are even more stuck in their ways.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That’s just not true at all. Ohio State culture is about one thing: winning. Their fanbase would take Urban Meyer or any other great spread coach in a heartbeat.
Michigan and Notre Dame are two of the only schools that put on a pretense of being about something more. If Rich Rod had been successful at Michigan, there would still be a good portion of the fanbase that would have resented him. That would never happen at Ohio State.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Heehee.
Stuck that needle in just the right place, didn’t I?
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
ROFLCOPTER.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Remember that this was an opinion piece written by for lack of a better term amateur writer
I’m a writer on examiner.com too and it’s not so much an article as it is a blog post.
I credit my urine for the victory.
http://taborsbigleaguechew.blogspot.com
ESPN has thrown that out there too
Of course their possible coaches are just about everyone successful coach ever…I don’t see it. They just throw that stuff out there for page views.
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."-Bill Hicks
by Linoleum Knife on Jun 2, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I saw that they want to bring back Woody Hayes
I credit my urine for the victory.
http://taborsbigleaguechew.blogspot.com
They always throw out Recently Successful Coach at Non-Traditional Power
Why? Because that’s usually what happens — Big School hires coach from little school. Why do you think Rich Brooks was getting job offers any time he came up with back-to-back winning seasons? Why was MB flirting with tOSU after the Fiesta Bowl? Why did Notre Dame interview Ernie Kent after the Elite 8 season?
Boosters like to see the ADs looking at Hot Young Coaches.
"Dispatch yourself with the utmost precision, and proceed as far as your individual excellency will permit." - John McEwan
Oh I get it
My point is that there has been zero indication from a credible source that Chip Kelly is unhappy at Oregon. Now, I think that if you’re football royalty like the Ohio State/Texas/Alabamas of the world, then sure, Chip Kelly or Chris Petersen or that type of guy has to listen to their offer.
But, my point is that ESPN will say anything they can to drive up page views and increase ad revenue whether or not there is any legitimacy to their claims or not. They get to make a nebulous statement like “there are whispers he may want to coach closer to home” and they will treat it like it’s a real posibility. They make statements like that and the rumor becomes a self-fulfilling propecy and grows like a game of telephone…One guy throws it out there and then the next person reports on it with “increasing rumbling out of Eugene suggest Chip Kelly is unhappy at Oregon” or other such nonsense until Ohio State acutally does hire somebody.
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."-Bill Hicks
by Linoleum Knife on Jun 2, 2011 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I understand that & I wasn’t trying to single out this writer, it’s just very annoying to me that Chip’s name still gets brought up when like others have said he hasn’t said he’s unhappy at Oregon.
You know who might be a good pick for the tOSU job?
Mike Bellotti. He almost got it last time and knows how to build a program.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
That was my immediate thought.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be really surprised if he climbed onto that burning ship.
That is not the “right situation” that he talks about whenever asked about coaching in the future.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Aye, that's the rub.
There isn’t a more terrifying phrase in college sports than “undetermined sanctions forthcoming.”
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like they are facing at least a one year bowl ban
Who knows what else.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
If all the things that have come out recently are true,
we’re looking at “lack of institutional control,” which is equally as terrifying as the previous phrase.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The question becomes what they can prove
The stuff in the past few years is pretty clear but if they can prove something close to what SI says happened (back to 2002) than they might get hit with that.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Depends on your tolerance for risk
and how lucky you feel, and how much they’re paying. I once took a management job at a hospital that was in the process of affiliating with a large regional HC organization. The CFO told me up front that he didn’t know exactly how the management structure would look after the merger, there was a slight chance I’d be out of a job. But the pay was good and the resume entry even better, so I went for it.
A little over three years later, I was RIFd out. But I wouldn’t be where I am now if I hadn’t taken it, so, no regrets.
Of course, in my case, the hospital wasn’t facing JCAHO sanctions or anything…
"Dispatch yourself with the utmost precision, and proceed as far as your individual excellency will permit." - John McEwan
But you probably weren't 62 at the time either
Bellotti already has the resume, he’s not building his reputation, this has the potential to destroy his reputation by crashing and burning at tOSU.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Which is why he’s waiting for Neweasel to get canned this year so he can retire in LA.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
That's exactly what I've been thinking.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Hey, according to you guys, I was 62 when Cas was hired.
Sheesh. Make up your minds.
"Dispatch yourself with the utmost precision, and proceed as far as your individual excellency will permit." - John McEwan
Ok, my mind is made up.
You are a genius 8 year old girl, playing us all for fools.
BORING OFFSEASON SIGNATURE GOES HERE. HMMF.
by Bill Musgrave on Jun 2, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey, don’t go picking on me just because I like iCarly.
"Dispatch yourself with the utmost precision, and proceed as far as your individual excellency will permit." - John McEwan
I called you a genius, what the hell else do you want, Sally.
BORING OFFSEASON SIGNATURE GOES HERE. HMMF.
by Bill Musgrave on Jun 2, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Perhaps Lame Kitten is literally playing patsy on the U$C sideline? It's an interesting idea....
I don’t know or care whether or not Lame Kitten was responsible for some or all of the the dirty deeds in U$C’s FB program under Cheaty Petey (which, of course, had nothing to do with the timing of Cheaty Petey’s departure to the NFL (COUGH)). The Kifster is the one who is bent over, screaming, “THANK YOU SIR! MAY I HAVE ANOTHER?!?!?!?!” I’m not saying I admire him for it; just being Captain Obvious.
I agree tOSU is not the place for a coach who, like Bellotti, Meyer, etc., don’t have anything to prove. Maybe once the sanctions are lifted.
Does anyone know of other instances where a coach has left one school in a conference for another school in that same conference, even with a layover in another conference or the pros? Conjecture or not, I will poop green and yellow bricks if Bellotti ends up anywhere in the Pac12.
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not sure I understand your question
but Erickson coached at WSU, then OSU, then ASU with a few jobs between them. Houston Nutt was fired from Arkansas and took the job at Ole Miss with no time between. It happens.
I’ve always thought Bellotti will end up at ASU if he takes another Pac-12 job, but UCLA is a distinct possiblity as well.
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."-Bill Hicks
by Linoleum Knife on Jun 2, 2011 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Other than Neuweasel.
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Bruce Snyder went from Cal to ASU
Saban from LSU to Bama
I’m sure there are others, it’s not unheard of. Frankly, I’d be surprised if he ended up coaching anywhere but the west coast. He knows the league, the coaches, and has great recruiting connections. My biggest worry would be, how many coaches will he steal from Oregon?
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
You really think that guys would go with Bellotti and leave Chip?
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Most of them are so rooted in Eugene I doubt they'd go.
Especially with the uncertainty of the “unknown forthcoming sanctions.” Plus one would think Belotti would need assistants well versed in B1G recruiting.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 3, 2011 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they'd stay becuz while Bellotti has charm,
Chip has integrity, And cajones,
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Recruiting would be an issue as well
He has connections galore on the West Coast. I would be surprised if he showed up at a school east of CO. Especially if that school is under NCAA sanctions. He probably doesn’t have enough coaching-years left to try to resurrect a program, build a recruiting base, and enjoy the success.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jun 2, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
He'd start with a pretty loaded deck, don't you think?
This isn’t like trying to rebuild the Cougs.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He'd probably have more talent than he had on any Oregon team
At least in theory.
He’d make the most of it I’m sure.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Depends on the sactions
They would be loaded, but if the sanctions were long-standing like we see at USC, it wouldn’t be easy to maintain the success (and we know how important that is to tOSU).
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jun 2, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
The effects of the USC sanctions remain to be seen.
It certainly hasn’t affected their recruiting thus far. LK could turn out to be a bigger problem than the sanctions.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
This is true
My guess is having 10(?) fewer schollies to hand out for three (four?) years will have an effect. Depth will certainly be affected, as might over-all skill level (will the 5* want to come to a school that is banned from playing in the post-season?). Winning at the same pace the fan bases are accustomed to is possible, but it won’t be easy (as if it ever is?).
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jun 2, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions
3 years.
But they front-loaded their signings in anticipation of the reductions. That means they can ‘shirt quite a few players. Also, while 10 fewer scholly’s per year is bad, they can also skim the cream off the top. Again, it all remains to be seen.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Ten fewer per year is huge.
Sure, they’ll likely get their choice of guys, but they can’t miss. They can’t even afford to “miss” with a guy like Joe McKnight, who was a very good player, but just wasn’t Reggie Bush or actually miss with a guy like NuKeese Richardson who turned out to have…um…poor impulse control. Also, if they can only sign 15 players, that leaves the rest of the country to fight over 10 extra blue chip players, and I like our chances to grab a couple of them. It took Alabama what, the better part of a decade (and two or three coaches) to get completely back to where they were before their less severe sanctions?
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."-Bill Hicks
by Linoleum Knife on Jun 2, 2011 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
tOSU sanctions
if the sanctions were long-standing like we see at USC, it wouldn’t be easy to maintain the success
This is the biggest obstacle to a Big Name Coach™ or a Hot Young Coach™ going to coach the Buckeyes. It’s one thing for an 18 year old who always dreamt of playing for Ohio State and commits with his heart, it’s quite another for a grown-ass man to make that same decision. Especially for one to leave a great job or even a very good job and step into a potential grease fire like the one that is liable to happen in Columbus. It’s not like the fans are really going to tolerate mediocrity (and they have a far different definition of mediocrity then we do).
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."-Bill Hicks
by Linoleum Knife on Jun 2, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions
heehee from ESPN.com
Would you want Terrelle Pryor on your favorite pro football team?
Yes 11%
No 89%
Total votes 12,324
18/82 split in Ohio
I
Herbie asked me to rec this for him.
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions
More rumor mongering...
Ohio State fan trying to bring us down with them. I guess we should consider it a form of flattery.
Juju is the same yesterday and today and forever.
I have no idea...
but this is all getting old. I have problems dismissing it entirely. Sounds
Juju is the same yesterday and today and forever.
Oh, Twitter!
Has anyone else seen “lot of stuff flying around”? I sure haven’t heard a peep in months.
by SeattleDucks on Jun 2, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
All we can do is wait and see. No information is not a reason to freak out.
On what grounds? Lack of institutional control? Dude, CK made tweets about swimming swim with the fishes. Every campus has a problem with alcohol, sports program or not.
This yahoo fuckeye wannabe clearly has no idea the NCAA’s “investigation” was a request for information about our relationship with Will Lyles. It was not an investigation into Oregon athletics. We fulfilled the request. Unless they decide they want to request more information or show up for an actual investigation, I consider the case closed.
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
The media keeps reporting that they are being investigated.
Personally I can’t blame other fan bases for getting the wrong impression about what the facts are with the way this situation has been handled in the media.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
exactly,
I don’t know how this would happen unless we self-reported something. In that case, it would probably be minor and no “child’s play” compared to tOSU.
Juju is the same yesterday and today and forever.
How about with Scam Newton?
Did UAB get a document request after Mississippi State self reported?
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
The NCAA didn't just show up after giving notice?
I mean , if you know….
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's a little more information on enforcement from the NCAA website
Linky
To the right of the explanation, there’s a link to a Flash file (*.swf) which gives an outline of how major infractions might progress. It doesn’t really answer our question per se, but it’s more informative than the website I went to that compared the NCAA to Germany in 1933 (pictures of Hitler included).
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
er, AU
All that glitters is not Auburn.
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
People in glass houses sink ships
I credit my urine for the victory.
http://taborsbigleaguechew.blogspot.com
we gotta get you a book or something
this mix and match shit has gotta go…
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake -Tyler Durden
Err..."regimen" rather than "regiment."
And Roper? No. Things transpired as necessary. Masoli’s decisions were regrettable but he gave us a hell of a ride. Stuff happens.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 10:43 AM PDT reply actions
...
"I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."-Bill Hicks
by Linoleum Knife on Jun 2, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Im with BGWM
I really don’t think we go to the Rose Bowl or Holiday Bowl with Roper behind center.
I credit my urine for the victory.
http://taborsbigleaguechew.blogspot.com
Roper was a regression as far as the spread goes.
CK did a heck of a job between the CW and the Sun Bowl to remake the offense to suit Roper’s strengths (his arm), but Roper was never going to be a true spread QB. Masoli’s bizarre rise to the starter job (following Roper’s equally strange journey before he was injured) was fortuitous IMO. And it became apparent very quickly how well Masoli suited the offense (especially to Roper, who saw the writing on the wall and transferred). While I regret Masoli’s…lack of judgment I wouldn’t give back those 2 years, especially not if it meant watching Roper lurch around in the backfield trying to run the spread.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I enjoyed the DB obliterations by our QB, and that is as far as I shall tax myself to think about this further.
BORING OFFSEASON SIGNATURE GOES HERE. HMMF.
by Bill Musgrave on Jun 2, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Meanwhile over at ESPN
Ted Miller has a great article about paying student athletes, also the comment system seems to have changed, and there is a reasonable debate happening there.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
There is a first time for everything, I suppose.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Hearing some junk on Twitter about another Oregon is in trouble rumor
Any insight on what it is this time?
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Baseless coffee-klatch gossip?
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparenlty some report on the "scouting service" investigation about to come out
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
The investigation is into the services themselves, not UO.
People immediately make that leap the second they see/hear “scouting services.”
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
And the bottom line vs. the tOSU case
WE DID NOT LIE TO THE NCAA. That makes the situation about 50x worse in their mind.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
Not only did we not lie,
we documented the expenses.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
That too
We’ll get probation, that’s probably it.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
It's a strange situation.
It seems the NCAA is concerned with closing loopholes and clarify their position with this whole thing. We might get off with a stern talking-to because what was done wasn’t specifically against the rules as they were at the time.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Whereas what Ohio State did is clearly against the rules
I can see that.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I'm sorry NCAA
I didn’t know I couldn’t do that.
I credit my urine for the victory.
http://taborsbigleaguechew.blogspot.com
Sumpin' like that.
A lot of folks (outside of the UO family) were calling the Ducks stupid for having this stuff on the books. The Ducks are essentially saying “why not, as far as our compliance department is concerned we weren’t doing anything wrong.” I think the biggest problem is that if Lyles WAS actually “steering players to UO,” the Ducks will have to somehow prove they weren’t paying Lyles to do so; that they paid him for his stated services and any “boosterism” or “steering” was done by Lyles at his own behest.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions
So, Oregon goes from not being under actual investigation to possibly a report coming out to just getting off with probation? All because of something on twiiter? Awesome.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I don't know about the rest.
But AFAIK UO isn’t actually under investigation itself.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
A Fait Accompli Is Kooky
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Always Fake An Injury, Kal
"Pressure is what you feel when you don’t know what you’re doing, and we don’t feel pressure because we know what we’re doing." – Chip Kelly
"A fuskie's Ass is Kicked" - Yoda
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
by Matt Daddy on Jun 2, 2011 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
oh never mind
I reread it, now I understand what you were saying
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Rob's take
That one always seems to be making the rounds? RT @TylerArmst67 what can you tell me about a new Oregon rumor
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jun 2, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That's a freaking Rembrandt compared to fBSU
"Pressure is what you feel when you don’t know what you’re doing, and we don’t feel pressure because we know what we’re doing." – Chip Kelly
Or the Eastern Washington "there will be blood" field
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
I like the blood field. It’s so horrific that it’s appealing.
I think we should install LED Turf that can change colors from green to yellow to carbon. And whenever there’s a fumble the field shifts to look like ten million footballs.
We just need to make sure that the Duck helmets have special visors that can identify the real football. And on offensive plays the field can change to white near the sideline so there’s never any conclusive evidence to overturn a Duck catch.
"Pressure is what you feel when you don’t know what you’re doing, and we don’t feel pressure because we know what we’re doing." – Chip Kelly
I like how you think (sorry to scare you).
I have been promoting a version of this idea for some time. The fiber optics in the grass field should be controllable by the fans, such that we can put arrows and other information and images out there to help out LaMike and Co. I’m sure we could be very helpful.
The lasers, whether set to kill or to stun, are going to require some new changes in the rules, but I’m for this.
BORING OFFSEASON SIGNATURE GOES HERE. HMMF.
by Bill Musgrave on Jun 2, 2011 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Let the coaches have control
We could give every helmet visors so they can see tones that the other team cannot, allowing every play to be literally drawn onto the field. Imagine how well you could hit the hole, or how crisp a route would be run, if you were following a bright line right beneath your feet like a video game!
I’m also in support of trap doors, subliminal messages, hydraulics, and electronic dog whistles that render the visiting Fuskies unable to communicate.
I like keeping some fan involvement, 60K fans throwing all sorts of joystick instructions into the magic electronic box, and the box has to decide which suggestions are getting the most responses, and that’s what gets put on the field as images, instructions, and distractions.
The coaches would retain control of the chips in the players heads, which would have the added benefit of shocking them should they drink an 18th beer, or try to punch a cop, etc.
Such that they did not feel treated completely like indentured servant gladiators, the players would in turn retain their rights to all the beautiful women of the world, who would in turn retain their rights to be movie stars and call everyone else nerds.
Or something like that, give me some time, I don’t have it all worked out.
ONWARD TO THE FUTURE!
BORING OFFSEASON SIGNATURE GOES HERE. HMMF.
by Bill Musgrave on Jun 2, 2011 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Fan involvement is good, I think it would work quite well to give them full control over the field via a real time voting system. Changing from white to carbon to green to stars in the black void of space would really give us an edge. We could also show replays on the field as well as on Duck Vision.
Yes, yes, the replay part.
Full size replay on the field, in which the real The Michael has to keep up with the image of The Michael.
BORING OFFSEASON SIGNATURE GOES HERE. HMMF.
by Bill Musgrave on Jun 2, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Imagine how you’d feel to get blown up and then stand on a picture of yourself getting blown up while 60,000 people scream and mash the “replay” button.
I'd like to see 3D art shown on the turf just to trip people out, like this"
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
It's totally doable
“May I have ten thousand [fiberoptic lights], please”
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, available to the fan consciousness.
If 50.01% of the fans thought about this, it would show up on the field.
It is written, and it is so.
BORING OFFSEASON SIGNATURE GOES HERE. HMMF.
by Bill Musgrave on Jun 2, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, that's the price you pay for all those beautiful girls.
Alright, alright, I said I don’t have it all worked out yet.
Maybe you use a holographic LaMike for the replays.
BORING OFFSEASON SIGNATURE GOES HERE. HMMF.
by Bill Musgrave on Jun 2, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
I’m not sure I even prefer this to blue.
"Dispatch yourself with the utmost precision, and proceed as far as your individual excellency will permit." - John McEwan
I actually like the Boise State field more I think.
I’m not feeling so good…
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-L-I-K-E-A-B-O-O-B-J-O-B"
Holy sheepshit!
Who are you and what have you done with Shu?
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Baa baa sheepshit
fscking BSU.
A nursery rhyme for the ages.
Fuck you, Juju. We'll do it ourselves.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jun 2, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, Brotz / Yes, Brotz / A big knucke sandwich full!
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
There once was a kicker name Brotzman
With the bearing of fine English yachtsman
Kicking wide was his fate
And he fucked Boise State
When he shanked like fully tanked Scotsman
by JonathanPDX on Jun 2, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
There once was a college from Boise
who’s fans were boastful and noisy
Once Brotzman choked
all of Reno joked
Fuck Boise State
I credit my urine for the victory.
http://taborsbigleaguechew.blogspot.com
You gotta finish the couplet.
Loose bills sink quills.
by DuckUntilDeath on Jun 2, 2011 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
There once was a girl from Nantucket
Who carried her brains in a bucket
She rented a Caddy
And called up Matt Daddy
And said “If it’s Boise State, fuck it”
"Dispatch yourself with the utmost precision, and proceed as far as your individual excellency will permit." - John McEwan
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