The ATQ All-Time Oregon Football Fantasy Draft - Part 3
It's been ten days since our last ATQ Fantasy Draft post (which can be found HERE). Here's a quick recap of the action so far:
- jtlight took Haloti Ngata, getting an immediate impact player on his defensive line and probably the biggest standout at any position.
- David Piper made the first bold move of the draft by making Akili Smith the first QB off the board at #3.
- Takimoto makes it clear his path to victory is through the air, drafting Joey Harrington with his first pick, and three pass-catchers in his next four picks.
- Much to benzduck's dismay, Norm van Brocklin is still available.
- Much to everyone's dismay, Kenny Wheaton is still available.
After the jump, a pick-by-pick recap of rounds 6-10, and a look at how the teams are shaping up so far.
Round 6
PaulSF: With the first pick of the 6th round, it's time for a cornerback. And who better than the player who's responsible for the single greatest highlight in Oregon Ducks history, "The Pick." With the 31st overall pick, I select cornerback Kenny Wheaton.
Matt Daddy:Well, since Tako's picking after me, I better hurry up and get someone for Dixon to throw to. For that I'm taking one of the best deep threats to ever wear green and yellow. With the 32nd pick in the draft I select Pat Johnson.
Takimoto: Haha, I've completely disrupted Matt Daddy's draft strategy. My job is complete. Every team needs a reliable center, especially one that throws as much as my team would. With Unger off the board, I will turn instead to a two-time first team Pac-10 performer, in 2005 and 2006. With my sixth pick, I select Enoka Lucas.
Dave: One good offensive lineman deserves another, especially when having to counter Jared's defensive line. I'll take a guy who was a first team All-American in 1971 while anchoring the line that paved the way for Dan Fouts and Bobby Moore. At 6'4" and 260, he was a big man for his day, and could put on more weight to compete with the players of today. A first round pick of the Balimore Colts, but my sixth round pick here, I select tackle Tom Drougas.
ntrebon: After missing out on a lot of lineman since my last pick, I decided to grab another linebacker. My second LB was a four-year starter for the Ducks and was a two-time first team All-Pac 10 selection. With the 35th overall pick, I select Peter Sirmon.
jtlight: Unfortunately for the Ducks, they haven't been a linebacking mecca over the past few decades (the Ducks have had only 4 first-team All-Pac 10/8 LB selections), and with two off the board, it's time to grab the leader of my defense. Jeremy Asher led two of the best Oregon defense in the modern era of Oregon football. While the 1994 team gets all the credit, the 1995 team allowed fewer yards per game and per play. Asher led the team in tackles that year, and was named to First Team All Pac-10.
Round 7
jtlight: It's also time to delve into the secondary. Oregon's had some great ones over the years, but I'm going back to Jim "Yazoo" Smith. He struggled on some not so great Oregon teams in the late 60s, but gave the Ducks a fighting chance against the pass. He was all conference in '67 and '68, and All-American as a senior in 68. He was picked 12th in the draft, but saw his career cut short by a neck injury prematurely ended his career.
ntrebon: With the second pick of the 8th round, I chose to fill in the second safety spot in my defensive backfield. This recent Oregon product finished his collegiate career in 2008 after foregoing his senior year to enter the NFL draft. Before he left, he started 37 of a possible 39 games (after redshirting) and amassed 17 career interceptions, which is one behind the school record. He was a member of the All Pac-10 team in all three years, twice as an honorable mention and once on the first-team. He was also the conference's co-freshman of the year and a second-team freshman All American (Sporting News). I am talking, of course, about Jairus Byrd.
Dave: At this point, I need a leader to quarterback my defense. This player is one of the best linebackers in Oregon history. A three-year starter, all Pac-10 first team performer, and second team All-American. Filling my spot at MIKE linebacker with my seventh round pick I select Casey Matthews.
Takimoto: So here's the deal. I'm drunk, poolside, on the Vegas strip. And all this linebacker business has me a bit jealous. So I'm taking another beast of a linebacker. I draft Kevin Mitchell.
Matt Daddy: Well if you guys aren't going to take any defensive ends, I might as well have the best two on my team. You know what goes well 29.5 career sacks on one end? 23.5 sacks on the other end. This honorable mention all Pac 10 junior and first-team all Pac 10 senior was 8th all time in tackles for a loss and helped transition Oregon's defense from a bend don't break nickel defense to a zone blitz crazy hybrid 3-4. With my 7th pick I select Kenny Rowe.
PaulSF: Just because he's still fresh in our minds doesn't mean he won't go down in history as one of the greatest, if not the greatest, Ducks receiver of all-time. He tied Samie Parker's single-season and career receptions records in 2010, finishing with 77 catches on the season and 178 for his career. He also finished 7th in career receiving yards with 2,311. But even with the stats to back it up, he also played out of his mind in Oregon's only BCS National Championship appearance earlier this year, including one of the greatest catches in school history. Needless to say, I feel pretty damn good about this pick. Without further ado, I'm taking wide receiver Jeff Maehl with the 42nd overall pick (but he should have gone much higher).
Round 8
PaulSF: Of course, Fouts needs more than just Russ Francis and Jeff Maehl to throw to. So, how about another team record-holder? This guy led the Rose Bowl-bound Ducks in receiving in 1994, then went off in his senior season in '95 with 64 receptions for 1,064 yards. He's also tied with Keenan Howry for the most career TD receptions at 24. I'm, of course, talking about wide receiver Cristin McLemore, whom I'll take with the 43rd overall pick.
Matt Daddy: I'm taking Geoff Schwartz at tackle.
Takimoto: Along with 26.5 sacks, he is the all-time leader in tackles for loss with 53. For my eighth pick, I select Saul Patu.
Dave: At this point, Akili needs somebody to throw to. I see all these wideouts off the board. Not one of them was a first team All-American like this guy. His senior season of 1970 is arguably the finest in school history: 67 receptions. A whopping 1123 yards. 102 yards per game. Decent size at 6'2", 195 and went onto a solid NFL career with the Saints. In the eight round, I select All-American Bob Newland.
ntrebon: Time for me to take my first lineman. This player came to Oregon from Redmond High School as a 235-lb three-sport athlete. By the time he finished his career, he had twice been awarded the Ed Moshofsky award as Oregon's top lineman as well as earning All-Pac 10 first and second team honors. With my 8th selection, I take center Dan Weaver.
jtlight: It looks like center has become a hot commodity, and rightly so. It's a position that sets the tone for the entire offensive line, and thus, the offense. While it seems like some of the more recent centers have been popular, I'm going to continue my theme and go way back, picking "the best center in Oregon history," Brad Ecklund. He started 91 straight games, every game at Oregon, was a two-time all conference selection. He played pro football for a five years, making two pro bowls, but quit to coach high school football. In 1999, he was named Oregon's lineman of the century. I have no idea how he fell this far, but I'm thrilled to take him.
Round 9
jtlight: For the first pick of the 9th round, I'll take one of the best cornerbacks and returners in Oregon history, Chris Oldham. In 1989, as the MVP of Oregon's first bowl team in 26 years, he had 8 interceptions and was named an All-American. He has the 4th most interceptions in Oregon history, and was two-time first team all-conference.
ntrebon: Talk about outstanding value --- Jared just drafted an All-American in the ninth round and I am going to do the same. With the second pick of the ninth round, I select Oregon's last available All-American DB, Herman O'Berry. In addition to his AA and first-team All-Pac 10 honors in 1994, O'Berry was also awarded the team's Bob Officer Award for "major contributions to the success of the football program despite physical adversity."
Dave: So everyone's picking All-Americans? Lets continue that trend and give Akili somebody else to throw to. There are two All-American wide receivers in Oregon history. I've got one. I'll now take the other. This guy was three times All Pac-10 first team, a first team All-American as a senior. He also garnered All-League honors as a kick returner. In the ninth round, I select WR Lew Barnes.
Takimoto: With my ninth pick, I need a corner, and one of the best cover corners in Oregon history is still on the board. I select Rashad Bauman.
Matt Daddy: This is sort of sentimental pick considering I played high school basketball against him. Then again putting a 6'5" 200+ pount middle linebacker as your point man on defense didn't seem very fair. To lead my front at the MLB position I select Matt Smith.
PaulSF: I think it's about time I focus a bit on my defense. With "The Intimidator" (Dave Wilcox) already at linebacker, I'm taking a hard-hitting safety with size who could break up passes deep and stop the run. I thought long and hard about taking T.J. Ward with this pick, but I couldn't bring myself to leave one of my all-time favorite Ducks on the board. Despite being known more for big hits than pass defense, he still ranks 7th on Oregon's career list of passes broken up with 26, and he's arguably the greatest smack-talker in Ducks history (not always in a good way...but what can I say? I like the smack talk). I can't imagine a better centerfielder for my intimidating defense, which is why I'm taking free safety Keith Lewis with the 54th overall pick.
Round 10
PaulSF: This Duck was a 2-time all-conference selection in 2000 and 2001, including leading the team with over 100 tackles during the historic 11-1 No. 2 finish in 2001. It doesn't hurt to have the greatest name in school history either. With the 55th overall pick, I select linebacker Wesly Mallard.
Matt Daddy: Wow, I'm really pissed Paul took 3 days to take Keith Lewis. He was one of my favorite Ducks because of defense as well as special team play. In that case I'll take the next hardest hitter (and according to some the hardest hitter ever to wear green and yellow) JD Nelson.
Takimoto: I'm gonna shore up the defensive line with one of the strongest Ducks of all-time, evidenced by his finding a home in the NFL with the Chicago Bears. I draft Matt Toeaina.
Dave: This linebacker is second on Oregon's all-time sacks list with a whopping 29, and had totals of 11 and 13 in the 1992 and 1993 seasons, causing the most havoc of any linebacker in Oregon history. With my next pick, I draft Ernest Jones.
ntrebon: Well, I put it off as long as I could---it's finally time for me to address the defensive line. With the top DTs already off the board, I decided to take one of Oregon's most productive ends. He finished his career fourth all-time in sacks and third in tackles for loss. Additionally, he was a two-time recipient of the Joe Schaffeld award as the team's top defensive lineman. I draft Devan Long.
jtlight: The Ducks have been loaded at CB over the years, but haven't been quite so strong at SS. But one of Oregon's best is sitting on the board. It's easy to overlook him when he's paired with Joe Giansante every week, but I'm taking Anthony Newman. He was great against the pass, and great against the run. He shared Oregon's MVP honors in 1987, when he was also a first team all conference selection, and honorable mention All-American. He went on to play in the NFL for 11 years.
So there you have it, ten rounds in the books. We'll be back Friday for Rounds 11-16, with the exciting conclusion next week. For now, here's a look at the teams so far:
Team jtlight: Haloti Ngata, Bobby Moore, Gary Zimmerman, Steve Barnett, Vince Goldsmith, Jeremy Asher, Jim Smith, Brad Ecklund, Chris Oldham, Anthony Newman
Team ntrebon: Jonathan Stewart, Keenan Howry, Chad Cota, Bill Musgrave, Tom Graham, Peter Sirmon, Jairus Byrd, Dan Weaver, Herman O' Berry, Devan Long
Team David Piper: Akili Smith, Onterrio Smith, Igor Olshansky, Cliff Harris, Adam Snyder, Tom Drougas, Casey Matthews, Bob Newland, Lew Barnes, Ernest Jones
Team Takimoto: Joey Harrington, Samie Parker, Demetrius Williams, Patrick Chung, Ed Dickson, Enoka Lucas, Kevin Mitchell, Saul Patu, Rashad Bauman, Matt Toeaina
Team Matt Daddy: Dennis Dixon, Reuben Droughns, Nick Reed, Max Unger, Alex Molden, Pat Johnson, Kenny Rowe, Geoff Schwartz, Matt Smith, J.D. Nelson
Team PaulSF: Mel Renfro, LaMichael James, Dan Fouts, Dave Wilcox, Russ Francis, Kenny Wheaton, Jeff Maehl, Cristin McLemore, Keith Lewis, Wesley Mallard
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I actually had a hard time choosing, all the teams are so obviously badass.
Went with Paul, though.
THAT'S RIGHT, Kenny Wheaton you did. You cut back into GREATNESS.
How can you go wrong when your team is compiled of Ducks!
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jul 20, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions
10 votes so far and my team has none! What a ridiculous and clearly flawed system.
by ntrebon on Jul 20, 2011 9:34 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Would of called somebody crazy back in 07’ heading into the UCLA game that Jeff Maehl would eventually become one of the greatest WRs in school history.
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For my non-self pick....
I’m taken Matt Daddy at this point. Solid all the way around.
Paul almost had me, but I can’t get over the reaches in the last 4 rounds. Maehl and McLemore when two All-Americans are on the board? Mallard as the 8th LB taken? Yikes.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
That's right!!!

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by Matt Daddy on Jul 20, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Auto Busey rec engaged.
THAT'S RIGHT, Kenny Wheaton you did. You cut back into GREATNESS.
by HoodRiverDuck on Jul 20, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you guys anti-Maehl because he's white?!
Reverse racism!!!
Addicted To Quack. If you’re not into the whole brevity thing.
McLemore extremely underrated. That guy made a sideline single toe in bounds catch every fucking time we needed something crucial.
Everybody was kung foo fighting, now it's all ho hum.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 20, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Huard's gonna go back to throw the ball....
by DuckUntilDeath on Jul 20, 2011 10:31 AM PDT reply actions
Are you efffing kidding me? It's been 5 hours!
I can’t complete my own Wheaton Wave! I’ll go blind!
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href="http://www.addictedtoquack.com/2011/7/7/2263857/the-will-lyles-timeline#71456716" target="_blank">And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jul 20, 2011 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions
axemen has taken control of everyone’s computer
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
Quick!
Everyone stream “Pulp Fiction!”
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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jul 21, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, Tako has some serious offensive firepower.
Joey Ballgame, D Williams, Samie, and ED. All around the US, defensive backs are crying and they don’t know why.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jul 20, 2011 10:31 AM PDT reply actions
They’re only gonna have to cover them for about 2 seconds, so they shouldn’t be too worried.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I think, as it stands right now, Matt has the team most ready to take the field and be effective in all aspects, followed by ntrebon, Dave, Paul, Jared then Tako
MattDaddy has an all-around well balanced team. I think it’s a crew that can be ready for any game plan on either side of the ball.
I like ntrebon’s offense, but just now taking Devon Long and addressing the D-Line makes me think the other offenses might be able to get a few minutes to make something big happen. But he has a fine LB crew, and a good start on his secondary. Gotta love Chad Cota.
Dave has a very competent offense with some solid players on the line. A Smith/Smith backfield running a Kelly spread would be really, really exciting to watch. His defense side is starting to piece together. Can’t fault him for the Harris pick – likely the best cover corner in Oregon history. All-in-all, a solid generation Y nostalgia team. But his defense doesn’t quite blow me away.
Paul probably has one of the best early round picks. But the Jeff Maehl, Cristin McLemore, Wesley Mallard picks are a little head scratching to me. I also think he has issues at the secondary.
jtlight’s offense is apparently planing on taking direct snaps to Bobby Moore. But with his talent at the line… it might be effective enough to beat anyone else. His defense has good a foundation, though his weakness is at LB there. He has the best offensive and defensive lines out of anyone here and only Matt really has a comparable defensive line.
Takimoto has the sexiest picks. No doubt. The Enoka Lucas pick reminds me of the reactions everyone has when the first closing pitcher gets picked in baseball fantasy drafts. I think he could have sat on that and gotten a couple better picks and still got a decent replacement at center. But no running back. Not much in regards to the offensive line.
However, I voted for Jared, because there are still solid choices for QB, which is his biggest absence in regards to position. With a QB, he has the best foundation for a team so far under the premise that a player’s relative skill and accomplishments scale to their era.
It's spelled "B-I-L-L-M-U-S-G-R-A-V-E-C-O-M-E-B-A-C-K"
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
Jared is definitely going for the “3 yards and a cloud of dust” offense. But what do you expect from a guy from Big 10 country?
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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With the defensive lines you guys are putting together, it’s gonna be more like 10 yards and a could of dust.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Jul 20, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
220lb lineman don't push for 10 yards... just saying.
Hell Rueben Droughns is bigger than your second DT. Kelly will leave him unblocked on the mesh between Droughns and Dixon and triple team Ngata.
I’ll take my 20 yards and eat my dust offense.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Who has any 220 pound offensive linemen? Barnett had a playing weight of 255 while Ecklund had a playing weight of 300. And Zimmerman was at 295.
As far as Goldsmith, I’d love to see opposing offenses leave him unblocked. He has the speed to make them pay.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
So you don’t have one player bigger than Siavii and your Tackle is 255lbs? Plus with little to no pass threat right now, expect 10 guys in the box.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
You vote for Jared because there are still solid QBs left, but knock me because I haven't taken one of the eight or so great RBs left? How dare you.
Our Acrobatics & Tumbling team can beat up your Acrobatics & Tumbling team.
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I dare, heavily, sir!
Lack of QB is Jared’s only major concern.
You lack both RBs and OLs.
I still give you one of the best chances to win, due to name value you have. But you haven’t swayed my vote yet, sir.
It's spelled "B-I-L-L-M-U-S-G-R-A-V-E-C-O-M-E-B-A-C-K"
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
I'm naming my team "Team Sexy" after your critique, btw.
Our Acrobatics & Tumbling team can beat up your Acrobatics & Tumbling team.
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So what you’re saying is… you’re bringing sexy back?
It's spelled "B-I-L-L-M-U-S-G-R-A-V-E-C-O-M-E-B-A-C-K"
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
by JShufelt on Jul 20, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Paul gets my vote...
for the simple fact that he drafted Wheaton. It’s a crime that he wasn’t taken earlier.
"It’s great with these group of guys. There is no panic in them." --Chip Kelly, Clearly NOT talking about members of ATQ.
by M. Fletcher on Jul 20, 2011 11:41 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Tako's looking good
I’m not voting against any team that has Joey and Sammie Parker.
Hey, When is someone going to take Jaison Williams?
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.
When they want a DB who's an excellent Hail-Mary defender.
The "Bill Simmons" of ATQ
by axemen23 on Jul 20, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Jaison Williams was a stud at WR. Just because he didn’t do well in ‘08 doesn’t take away his ridiculous numbers in ’06 and ’07.
In fact, what made him so infuriate was that he was able to get so open or to that he could put himself in such great position to make great plays – only to drop the ball…
It's spelled "B-I-L-L-M-U-S-G-R-A-V-E-C-O-M-E-B-A-C-K"
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
You should post from Autzen.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jul 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Jaison was a sure-fire first-round pick.
Except for his minor case of granite-hands.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jul 20, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Tako's looking good?
just wait a few rounds :)
--Dave
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Then I'll look better.
Our Acrobatics & Tumbling team can beat up your Acrobatics & Tumbling team.
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If you grab Derek Loville
I’m sticking with you until the end.
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.
by daisyduck on Jul 20, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's not what I meant
but that’s funny too.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
This is what it's come to
I immediately believe everything is an innuendo.
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.
Thank you MCD Mom
These guys are clearly making me paranoid.
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.
I'm not sure exactly how to score this in the innuendo challenge, but it fits in somewhere.
Everybody was kung foo fighting, now it's all ho hum.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 20, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Innuendo and out the other.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 20, 2011 8:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
That. Just. Happened.
Our Acrobatics & Tumbling team can beat up your Acrobatics & Tumbling team.
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I KNOW!
Look at the time stamp too.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Read the timestamp one more time, then say your comment out loud..
Everybody was kung foo fighting, now it's all ho hum.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 20, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry about it. You'll understand soon enough.
Our Acrobatics & Tumbling team can beat up your Acrobatics & Tumbling team.
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I don't know if she'll get it.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Has she seen "Pulp Fiction"?
Our Acrobatics & Tumbling team can beat up your Acrobatics & Tumbling team.
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I thought it was from "Reservoir Dogs"
am I wrong?
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
That should be your next Matt Thursdaddy.
Reservoir Dogs, as played by the ATQ mods.
Our Acrobatics & Tumbling team can beat up your Acrobatics & Tumbling team.
Addicted to Quack, where Matt Daddy can't fall asleep unless a grown man in drag sings "Daisy Bell" to him.
Done and done
I even know what seen I’m doing
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Of course I've seen Pulp Fiction
What am I, axemen?
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.
by daisyduck on Jul 20, 2011 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Daisy, I cheered with Axemen, I knew Axemen, Axemen was a fan of mine. Daisy, you’re no Axemen.
It's spelled "B-I-L-L-M-U-S-G-R-A-V-E-C-O-M-E-B-A-C-K"
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
by JShufelt on Jul 21, 2011 12:30 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thank Fucking God.
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.
by daisyduck on Jul 21, 2011 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did I use my Jedi mind trick powers
to make you actually choose Derek Loville at nearly that exact moment in time??
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.
This is not the pick you are looking for Daisy.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Your powers of obfuscation are formidable, my Jedi friend.
ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.
Stay on target. Stay on target.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Daisy… Let go...
Don't tread on meat.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 20, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Great shot kid! Now don't get cocky!
Our Acrobatics & Tumbling team can beat up your Acrobatics & Tumbling team.
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Miller
Are my eyes deceiving me or has no one taken Chris Miller? That’s crazy, because Miller was awesome, not to mention the last Oregon QB to have a good pro career. I’d certainly take Miller over Musgrave and possibly over Harrington, given Joey’s poor completion percentage.
Harrington had a higher NFL career completion percentage than Miller did.
It's spelled "B-I-L-L-M-U-S-G-R-A-V-E-C-O-M-E-B-A-C-K"
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
Was that a product of skill or or playing system. Harrington played almost exclusively in west coast offenses. I don’t know much about Miller, but that hadn’t become all the rage when he played.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
The WC offense was his downfall in the pros.
He wasn’t built to throw out passes 18 yards to the sidelines. Well, that and the worst offensive line in the NFL. And a mediocre and oft-injured RB corps.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jul 20, 2011 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Was talking about college completion %
But then I don’t know what Miller’s was either.
Also though, NFL completion percentages were just generally lower in the 80s than the 00s. So I don’t know how useful the comparison is.
Miller was working essentially nothing at Oregon except Loville and Barnes. He had nowhere near the weapons of his successors. Really an amazing QB in college.
Miller and Harrington had the exact same completion percentages (55.2%) over their college careers, despite the talent Joey had around him. His final year, Miller completed 60.7% of his passes. Joey never reached that level in any single season.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I've always wondered how things would have worked out if Brooks hadn't burned Miller's redshirt in '83
for three meaningless games. Do we even get Musgrave, since he wouldn’t have been a starter in ’87?
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 20, 2011 2:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I wonder the same thing
if Bellotti hadn’t burned Dixon’s redshirt to “see what he could do” vs. Oklahoma in ’04
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
True, but that was game two
.. not game eight.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 20, 2011 7:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Which QB off the board would you have taken Chris Miller over?
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Jack Henderson
Norv Turner
Eric Olson
Kevin Lusk
Ryan Perry-Smith
..
Jason Fife
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 20, 2011 2:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Whoa.
It's spelled "B-I-L-L-M-U-S-G-R-A-V-E-C-O-M-E-B-A-C-K"
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
You were expecting me to include Shaw or Graziani or Ogburn?
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 20, 2011 2:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh, he said "off the board"
None. But I’m not a Millerguy.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 20, 2011 2:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ahh… I thought you might have had some deep seeded hatred for Miller for some oddball reason.
This makes more sense.
It's spelled "B-I-L-L-M-U-S-G-R-A-V-E-C-O-M-E-B-A-C-K"
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
Not exactly deep seated
But I confess to a certain prejudice. My best friend in high school dated Miller’s older sister, and I got to know her fairly well, heard lots of stories of what a jerk her little brother was to her. Basically, a bully. Could have been BS, I suppose, but she had no reason to lie about it (and this was when he was in junior high). So, never have been a huge Miller fan, although I appreciated all he brought to the field; he had an NFL arm.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
I feel like star quarterbacks have a higher douche quotient than the rest of the population.
trumpetduck got beat up by Erik Ainge once, for example.
Our Acrobatics & Tumbling team can beat up your Acrobatics & Tumbling team.
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Payback for the time Tree Rollins kicked the crap out of Danny, maybe.
Don't tread on meat.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 21, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Back up quarterbacks are not so bad
I dated one briefly and he was a pretty good guy.
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Curse you, Offseason.
You know damn well what I meant, Benz
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
You're just pissed because I voted for Jared.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 20, 2011 4:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes. I would pick Miller over Henderson.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 20, 2011 4:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Miller should have gone earlier. And so should Norm Van Brocklin.
But those guys aren’t sexy picks.
Harrington also had something Miller didn’t…wins.
Addicted To Quack. If you’re not into the whole brevity thing.
I wouldn't take Miller over any of the five guys who have been drafted at the position
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
IAWTP
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 20, 2011 4:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I Always Want To Pee?
Named AtQ resident ‘Master of the Possible Guru,’ by Famous Duck 7/19/11
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jul 20, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
It's A Whim: Tree Porn
Everybody was kung foo fighting, now it's all ho hum.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 20, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions
The Dutchman will be the ceremonial last player drafted, since everyone else has a QB.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 20, 2011 4:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Duck Draft
I’m surprised no one has taken a look at one of the best all around athletes to play at Oregon. He was a member of those teams featuring Bobby Moore, Bob Newland, Dan Fouts, Lelan Glass and others. He was drafted in the third round in ‘70. He played fullback, flanker and tight end for the ducks but had a great career as a speedy offensive lineman playing in four super bowls. He played eight man football growing up in a small Oregon logging town. Don’t remember? Andy Maurer….
Oldham should have gone sooner.
My complete analysis of the draft, one thought per week.
Don't tread on meat.
Chirs Oldham is unquestionably the biggest steal of the draft thus far, for him to slip so far and some of the guys that were taken ahead of him is stunning…clearly people forgot about him.
by keeerrrttt1 on Jul 20, 2011 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Or aren’t old enough to remember him in the first place.
But then, a draft that has Enoka Lucas going two rounds before the player selected in 1999 as The greatest Oregon lineman of the 20th Century is hard to take seriously.
And I can’t believe George Dames is still on the board.. Two time all-coast DT? Dames was the Ngata of his era at Oregon, and it was largely Dames that made Frei’s first two teams very difficult to run on, in an era when everybody ran between the tackles half the time.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
Pardon me for not getting too excited about a 6'4" 225lb center.
I get that some of the old school guys got some pub during their time, but would anyone really want Ecklund at 225lbs trying to block Igor Olshansky at 315lbs? Now Zimmerman could most likely hold his own these days, but no way is anyone going to convince me that having Ngata and 220lb Goldsmith standing right right next to each other, that Goldsmith was the 2 time all Pac 10 player and Ngata was only one time.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
There's too much text here, I only get one thought per week and this is really taking a lot of energy to read.
Don't tread on meat.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 21, 2011 1:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Ah, sweet relief, thanks boss.
Don't tread on meat.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 21, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you seriously think Ecklund would have been playing at 225 with modern training and nutrition? Come on, man, I thought you were one of the smrat ones in the bunch.
If this is your standard you might as well not even bother picking any linemen who played before 1990.
Ecklund was a beast and dominated the conference at his position. Nobody ever said “oh, but he’s so small!”. Oh, and once he got to the NFL, he played closer to 300.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
by benzduck on Jul 21, 2011 6:26 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I forgot about that new nutrition and training that allows you to grow 2 to 4 inches. Or allows you to put on 75lbs and not be a sloppy mess before you’re age 22. Where do I get that stuff again? And I’m trying not to pick any lineman before 1990.
I have no problem with the old school guys and what they did for Oregon, and if you want to evaluate the teams based on that, go ahead. I guess I really should have taken Kenny Wheaton with my first pick then.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
I forgot about that new nutrition and training that allows you to grow 2 to 4 inches.
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"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011
by JShufelt on Jul 21, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Now with guaranteed mustache!
Don't tread on meat.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 21, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Hear Hear!
Now with mustache guarantee!
by HoodRiverDuck on Jul 21, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
If it wasn’t against the rules, this would be where I call you a putz. But I’m not one of those rule breakers who would call you a putz. Not me, no sir.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
You do realize there’s more to playing football than size, right? Things like, being a good football player. But that’s besides the point. Ecklund’s size and abilities would translate very well into today’s game. He was freaking 6’4" 300 for crying out loud, so I don’t get what you’re complaining about.
As far as the only truly undersized player, Goldsmith, he played in 1980, so he played against modern sized players, and he still kicked their ass.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
by jtlight on Jul 21, 2011 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's not the size of the player but the motion in the....never mind.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jul 21, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
The All-Time "Weaksauce" Team
OK guys, it’s time for me to shake things up a little bit and pitch in, maybe as a small early sacrifice to JuJu, my own personal draft of guys who I thought truly represented the term “weaksauce” (meaning they underachieved, got in big trouble or their names were just kinda funny and they didn’t play much) during their playing days at Oregon. Quake in fear gents, here’s the illustrious list:
Kevin Lusk
Herman Ho-Ching
Demetrius Spates
Marques Binns
Elvis Akpla
Ellis Krout
Matt “Flubber” Floberg
Derrick Jones
Jordan Carey (suck it Michigan)
Johnny DuRocher
Garrett Embry
Cody Kempt
Dan Katz for his barefoot kick against USC in 1999 that Frankel had to make up for
And…I don’t know, Nuvraj Bassi? Anyone remember him?
Teams around the country are shaking in their boots now. Feel free to add your own. I forgot certain positions. And don’t hurt me. It’s all in good fun. Save for a few names on that list cough Ho-Ching cough.
Roboduck, aka "Mandrake"
Don't tread on meat.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 21, 2011 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Sonny Cook
Matt Belden, for his 4 missed FGs in the Rose Bowl
Andy Ludwig
Rich Stubler
Chris Harper
Marcell Stewart
Matt DeLagrange
LaMont Woods
This should close out the list. You cannot go lower than this.
Don't tread on meat.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 21, 2011 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Give LaMont a break
He had to grow up in Corvallis.
And he taught Fletch everything he knew, which is what made 1996 so.. exciting.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
His name was "Toast".
Enough said.
Don't tread on meat.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 21, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I think he was a 100m state champion or something, so he was a phenomenal athlete.
Also, his sister was a like a 2 or 3 time state 100m and 200m champ, and would jump high enough that her feet were above the net for UO volleyball, she was baddass.
And his brother belly flopped Ty Detmer for a safety in 1989.
So ok, I salute the Woods family.
Don't tread on meat.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 21, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Ok, so it was more of a "belly bump".
Or maybe more accurately described as a semi truck driving through a bug.
Don't tread on meat.
by Bill Musgrave on Jul 22, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Rocky Pamplin
TamoniI Joiner
Dexter Manley Jr
Tim Norton
Reggie Young
Andrew Page
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
Matt Bramow
Michael Willis
Malachi Lewis
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
don't knock Malachi Lewis
We sort of got rid of his position right as he came to campus, and he stuck it out the whole time.
The "Bill Simmons" of ATQ
Oregon got rid of runningback?
That’s what he was, a 4-star RB. Got on campus and coaches realized he was too slow, so they moved him around trying him as an H-back or TE, but he never got big enough to be a TE consistently so yes he became a guy on the roster too lightweight to play TE and too slow to play RB on a team that didn’t use fullbacks and wanted H-backs that can run like tailbacks.
Jamere Holland wonders why he's not on this list...
If I wanted any lip from you, I'd unzip your pants.
So does Norval Turnover...
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Nobody expected much from Norv.
He had the distinct disadvantage of having to follow a true hero, during a period of great turmoil and suffering and horrible offensive line play and guys who refused to run the routes Read drew up for them. You don’t lead the conference in interceptions thrown by yourself. OK, maybe.
Nobody does offseason like Oregon. --- Gekko Mojo
Jordan Kent
/laughsatthejokeonlythemodswillget
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by Takimoto on Jul 21, 2011 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
who ever picks Chad Cota, wins.
Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton
That happened a while ago.
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