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I would love it if LaMike came back next year but there’s a very small part of me that would like to see him go so we can see what Barner can do as the starter for the whole year.

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by The Legend on Aug 10, 2011 7:06 AM PDT reply actions  

If he did come back for his senior season

Would his career rushing record stand always and forever? He is like 2 yards away from having it after 2 years, he would absolutely destroy it.

by SeattleDucks on Aug 10, 2011 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he’s 20 away but yeah if he did comeback next year it would be very tough to beat. He’s already going to destroy it this year unless he gets injured.

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by The Legend on Aug 10, 2011 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

As much as I like Barner, I would like to say NO NO NO NO NO NO.

LMJ is gone next year tho regardless.

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by Bill Musgrave on Aug 10, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Skip Bayless just said that Oklahoma will have a better offense then us

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by The Legend on Aug 10, 2011 7:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Have u seen the Big 12 defenses? They’ll put up 50/game. Hopefully we will too.

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by NEP on Aug 10, 2011 7:48 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I find this comment very, very entertaining. It reminds me of 10 years ago, only with “Pac-10” instead of “Big 12”

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think they will.

They return their QB who is starting for more or less his third season, and they have really good wideouts in Kenny Stills and Ryan Broyles. They should pass for like 700 yards a game. Oh yeah, they also play in the soft defense Big-12.

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by CaDuck on Aug 10, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, and those guys count funny, too, like 10 = 12.

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by Famous Duck on Aug 10, 2011 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least they were at 12 recently,

Like, “hey, we have all these boxes of stationary and we don’t want to waste them.”

There haven’t just been 10 teams in the Big 10 for nearly twenty years.

by omb on Aug 10, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention...

Excluding that strange 2009 year, Oklahoma’s offensive lines are consistently among the best in the country.

by The Graduate on Aug 10, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Skip Bayless is the ultimate hater, look at what he’s said over time and it’s very clear that he despises Oregon and everything the Ducks stand for, he has so much personal bias against UO for some reason it pains him to even discuss Oregon.

by keeerrrttt1 on Aug 10, 2011 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think he particularly hates Oregon

What did we ever do to him?

I think most national sports “journalists” are spread so thin that they can’t possibly stay on top of everything. Bayless’ thought process was probably: “Oregon? The last two times I saw their offense they were getting shut down by Ohio State and Auburn! They must not be very good.”

That’s what I hate about most sports coverage. The media are trying to cram these “personalities” down our throats at the expense of actual knowledge. I want to hear about my sports from somebody who knows more about it than I do. Yeah, Bayless could probably crush me in NASCAR trivia or baseball trivia, but that’s not what I care about.

by Twith on Aug 10, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’ve made fun of him a lot.

A lot.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

you evidently haven’t watched much of him…he clearly has a pure hatred of the Oregon Ducks as clear as any Beaver or Husky. Not sure why, but he absolutely loathes the program, he finds it personally insulting that a non-traditional program would be successful.

by keeerrrttt1 on Aug 10, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s even the biggest hater on First Take, the lady Reischa or however you spell her name that does the news update who went to USC whenever she has to say something about us she always makes some hater comment usually it’s about our jersey’s. I think that’s unprofessional of her, I understand why Skip does it it’s his job but her job is to give us updates not give us updates & be a hater.

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by The Legend on Aug 10, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just think

Last year, opening game, we got to see some freshmen walk-ons and other backups fill in on a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to shine, and they did.

Roll forward to this year. We are talking about some true freshmen in their first college game trying to do the same thing on a gigantic stage, against a premium foe. For some reason (CK) I think our guys will be ready to shine.

Go Ducks

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by webfoot73 on Aug 10, 2011 7:34 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It’s strange how excited I am for the Missouri State game – can’t wait to see the young guys for more than a half.

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by NEP on Aug 10, 2011 7:49 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I just saw this comment on Miller's Seastrunk piece:

Posted by a Trojan fan:

Thomas only went to oregon because he snitched on a gang member in LA, im pretty sure UO didn’t even offer until like 2 weeks before signing day

The kids not really a punk.

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by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 8:20 AM PDT reply actions  

I just saw that too and I was going to post it.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I admit I made a mistake.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

But they are funny!

I love how you can work for ESPN as a blogger and all you ever really have to do is collect links from other sources, write some mediocre stuff and wildly speculate on everything there is to speculate on! Wait… that’s like the rest of the media these days… damn.

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Aug 10, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t have as much of a problem with ESPN, or Ted Miller. I like Ted MIller a lot, actually.

But the comment section on there is horrendous.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

“These duck fans are idiots”

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

See Ted Millers

Latest on the Cal issue…

Now, the only person who seems to have the time line right is that dux4real guy…

Now I usually like Ted but sometimes he just writes shit to write shit.

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Aug 10, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

He probably has a minimum requirement as an ESPN blogger. When there is shit to write about, you write about shit.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Basically

He’s paid to follow the lead of other writers.

by ursula on Aug 10, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why do you say that? He comes up with plenty of his own material and articles.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Because the stuff that he comes with himself has little depth.

Hmm, that’s a bit harsh. here’s a better way to put it IMO:

- When discussing actual real football: how good is such and such a team say, or who is better, he’s pretty good. However since he covers 12 teams (and to his credit he does covers the Pac-12 impartially) he can only go so far in depth. (Matt Hinton has the problem too in spades. ) He doesn’t know the subtle nuances of any one team since he doesn’t see them in person. Usually he plays it conservative (to his credit) and thus rarely gets caught out making some dumb prediction.

But his writing problems surface when he writes about non-football stuff, like Lyles or USC or various scandals or coaching changes etc.

Basically, he’s doing precious little investigating on his own so he’s basically follows other writer’s leads. Actually he does this when writing football stuff-he tends to agree with what Moseley writes for example. But when he enters the real of non-football scandals he’s entering the real of following the Clowny’s and Schroeders’: writers who do very little investigating and a whole lot of speculating. And unlike in following actual football writers, he can’t gauge easily how accurate these non-football writers are-but he HAS to use them in the of season since he’s got nowhere else to turn.

So when the height of the Lyles shitstorm was happening, Miller jumped on the Oregon did something wrong bandwagon. Not all the way as he always keeps a backdoor open for him to jump off, but still he is just following other speculators. A major problem with this is that the Clowns of the world are writing to sensationalize and sell website hits. Miller doesn’t. But he also doesn’t take the tack of how the Lyles affair is affecting the Oregon football team, which is an obvious story that he could write but doesn’t since he fails to connect the dots which is Investigative Journalism 101. That’s where he falls short. And that gets us back to the fact that he covers 12 teams from hundreds of miles away.

You could say that he’s lazy. I definitely say that if he keeps doing this ESPN gig his journalistic skills will erode away. Again, he has some qualities that I note at the top; definitely there are worse ESPN college bloggers than he. But he misses opportunities because he doesn’t investigate. He doesn’t follow up and instead he loves to talk about how Chip Kelly stonewalls him.

IMO

by ursula on Aug 10, 2011 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So when the height of the Lyles shitstorm was happening, Miller jumped on the Oregon did something wrong bandwagon.

I honestly don’t remember that at all. He might have presented questions and reiterated how it could effect Oregon and the Pac-12, but that doesn’t implicate that Oregon did something wrong and SHOULD be punished.

The thing is, I don’t believe it’s his job to do investigative journalism. Maybe you think that’s only going half-assed, but I don’t. His job isn’t to dive into the details of an event, but to report and share the event and what impact it could have and he needs to present it for the casual reader. He still puts up good reflection of opinions. I’ve never felt he had any particular bias or out-of-line opinion – nor have I felt that he was too “shallow”.

Putting opinion spins and trying to be an investigative reporter and to make “bold” statements is what Graham Watson tried to do as the Non-AQ blogger – and she was awful at it. Now she’s no longer blogging for ESPN, but for Matt Hinton.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

But they are funny!

I don’t find ESPN comments funny for the same reasons I don’t watch reality television – there is nothing amusing or entertaining to me about bitterness, petulance, and idiocy. I just get angry.

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by Gorbachav5 on Aug 10, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess they are funny to me because I laugh at how sad their comments are sometimes.

I find it entertaining watching idiot fans from all over the place battle it out on the ESPN comments section :)

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Aug 10, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll Take ESPN.com comments...

…over Oregon Live comments any day of the week. That place seems to be a cesspool for the worst element of both fan bases.

by Sahr on Aug 11, 2011 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Listen, it's okay to wallow in the mire sometimes

as Oscar Wilde once said: “I may be laying in the gutter, but I’m reaching for the stars”.

(do I get any bonus points for interjecting perhaps the first Oscar Wilde quote into a football thread?)

My parents believed in me.

by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

But then we deducted them for not knowing the difference between “laying” and “lying.”

by The Ghost of Spike Owen on Aug 10, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Look, That Trojan poster is a good kid...

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by CaDuck on Aug 10, 2011 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

Grasu is starting to impress me.

I was already pleasantly surprised – if not shocked – that he built his weight to 291 (with room to grow seeing as he’s young). Now I’m even further impressed after reading he had the best agility time amongst lineman and the second best squat and clean.

While not all of of them are starters, we have some large human beings waiting in the Oline ranks, and to post the second best squat and clean at 291, while still being agile, is great news.

As a former O lineman myself, the power lifts – being bench, squat, an clean – were the most important. Add in the fact that he’s had a redshift year to absorb the offense AND had the wherewithal to seek advice from Jordan Holmes, I’m starting to feel more comfortable about the position. I especially like that he has an imposing, powerful Stevens fighting for a spot right behind him. It should serve as great motivation for Grasu.

In just 2 days of fall camp sans pads, I already feel better about receiver and center. Let’s hope this upward trend continues when pads come on. I mean, if Grasu can hold his own against Heimuli and Keliikipi, and Vaughn continues to impress against a secondary as deep and talented as ours, we’ll be looking real good.

by DuckIt on Aug 10, 2011 9:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

What about Cliff dropping 15 pounds?

They said down to 165 from 180. Personally, I doubt he ever weighted 180.

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by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Last I knew he was 165

Last year… I dont think he was 180. You saw what Paulson did to him in the Spring game.

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Aug 10, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

Saw that on Tony DiFrancisco's Twitter
On a surprising note- All American Cliff Harris has dropped to 165 from his 180 2010 listed playing weight

I would have never pegged him at 180 last year, myself.

My parents believed in me.

by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Strange

Must mean he is on crack or crystal meth. It has to be drugs!

Hey Clownzo! You heard it here first now write a wildly speculated story about how Cliff dropped 15 pounds due to narcotics.

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Aug 10, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is no job for Canzano.

Trying to account for undocumented University of Oregon somethings? This is a job for Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-Bachman!

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by CaDuck on Aug 10, 2011 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

You've got it all wrong

He lost it by dressing up as a car and running up and down I-5 at 118 MPH.

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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by DuckUntilDeath on Aug 10, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

touche

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by jcgoducks on Aug 10, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Center Position.

I am so glad that we have a battle going on there, I think it will both raise everyone’s game as well as develop some depth. That said am a little worried that if we don’t get this sorted early the time for the QB and C to get a bond will be less.

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by DamienS on Aug 10, 2011 9:23 AM PDT reply actions  

I felt the same way last year about the QB competition.

“Screw this messing around, name your starter and let him work with the first team”

Once again the coaches plan proved all my worrying to be for naught.

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by AcadianTraverse on Aug 10, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very nice.

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 10, 2011 9:37 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Whoa. I can see Jesus.

He looks like Puddles.

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by Bill Musgrave on Aug 10, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

New Sagarin ratings are out!

There are several things I don’t understand.

I know that last year’s rankings are used to determine the Sagarin ratings early in the season, since they don’t have anything else to go by. But do they take other things into account, such as departing seniors or something? Here’s a list of things I don’t understand:

1) Oregon at #2 makes perfect sense, but then why Auburn at #11?
2) If departing seniors is somehow in the mix, how the hell did tOSU get to #3?
3) Stanford at #12 and USC at #10? What?
4) Florida at #6 and Texas at #14? This makes me think they don’t take last year into account.
5) Washington at #52 and UCLA at #53? Say what you will about the Fuskies, but there should be leagues of separation between them and a Neuheisel-coached team.

I guess /DMW is the correct response here, as with all preseason polls, but aren’t the computer ones supposed to be based on things that happened (A) on the field, and (B) in reality? Because these ones are about 2 windows closing by themselves away from being straight-up Oiuja board stupid.

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by ProbablyMonty on Aug 10, 2011 9:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Texas at 14?

They lose their stud DC, they hired a new OC to replace the crappiest offense ever, and they presumably still probably dont even know what a run game looks like. Yep, that is a solid foundation for success.

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by CaDuck on Aug 10, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pac-12 ratings

2. Oregon 90.78
10. USC 87.15
12. Stanford 85.42
20. Utah 82.00
23. Oregon State 81.23
27. California 80.28
31. Arizona 79.49
34. AZ St 78.79
52. Fuskies 74.19
53. UCLA 73.67
72. Colorado 69.54
94. Wazzu 64.39

I’ll bet that there’s not many people who would rank the Pac-12 in this order. USC, OSU, Utah, and Cal all look too highly ranked.
However what I see here is that from Utah down to UCLA there is a big middle class in there Pac-12 and that is correct: it is hard at this point to differentiate between those 7 teams-especially if Utah, OSU, and Cal move towards the other 4 teams as they should.

by ursula on Aug 10, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

The only major outlier I see is Oregon State.

I know, I know, their MO has been to come in underrated and post a great year, but that broke down last year and honestly, coming into this season there aren’t many reasons to be bullish. Their QB is pretty good and their WRs will be pretty to very good even without James Rodgers, but every other unit on the team is scraping the bottom of the Pac-12.

Arizona seems a bit high, and while Cal looks high I think they have the talent to at least back that up if they get decent production at some question positions.

by omb on Aug 10, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

USC being above Stanford strikes me as being a major problem as well, based on what happened on the field last year.

"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall

by ProbablyMonty on Aug 10, 2011 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

OSU also gets a lot of computer credit for their schedule.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
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by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

He isnt really falling in love with ASU like a few other pollsters have. I have to agree with him (or, his computers that is) on that account.

As you said, the Pac-12 looks pretty solid in the middle. Things should then go back to normal and every team will just kill every other team so that the Pac doesn’t have a NCG contender again. Like the good ol’ days. /reminds self of 2007…shudders.

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by CaDuck on Aug 10, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pretty hard to climb back if we don’t do LSU

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by webfoot73 on Aug 10, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

The window to make money in the NFL for an RB is so short

Would be extremely surprised if LaMichael were back for yet another year.

by The Ghost of Spike Owen on Aug 10, 2011 10:27 AM PDT reply actions  

He even said

“come back for 1 more year” during his presser the other day.

My parents believed in me.

by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. Though, in the article I linked, someone later asked a followup question about it and James said he would wait until the end of the year to decide.

by ntrebon on Aug 10, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I still don’t get why the SEC is so much better from an Aggie perspective. It all seems cultural, emotional. Competitively, it seems like they would be in a much better position being the main Texas anchor of a Pac-16 East.

Same with Oklahoma. Especially if the SEC only added 2 West teams. Let’s take the usual scenario mentioned by writers – Oklahoma and A&M to the SEC. Congratulations! You’re now in the same division as ’Bama, LSU and Auburn.

My biggest worry is that the SEC would make a bigger play and get 4 Big 12 teams. Grab A&M and the Okies plus 1. Move ’Bama and Auburn to the East, create a 16-team SEC. Everyone else would be screwed.

by omb on Aug 10, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

The ink isn’t even dry on our new TV contract. Do we still have time to negotiate up with the networks? Adding OU is, without a doubt, a boon to the national viewership and value of the PAC product.

"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall

by ProbablyMonty on Aug 10, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

The Pac-12 media deal purportedly has clauses that allow for both parties to come back to the table if/when additional expansion takes place.

I don't mean to impose...

by TheOcean on Aug 10, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Need to allow back to table before expansion to see if worth it.

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by webfoot73 on Aug 10, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

A&M to SEC makes sense I suppose.

The rest doesn’t. Tech gives the Pac-12 nothing. Nothing at all. In fact they would be a drain on the Pac-12 money flow.

Oklahoma I think would rather deal with the SEC also and the only reason they wouldn’t is if their state legislature ties OKST to them and the SEC doesn’t take both. I can see the SEC taking A&M, OK, and OKST. Then look east to steal an ACC team (Florida St, or North Carolina or Clemson) or take Missouri.

I would say that if the Pac-12 had to choose two or four more teams and Texas is definitely ruled out then…A&M, OK, Missouri and Kansas would be the top four. Don;’ know how realistic that is.

by ursula on Aug 10, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh.

Screw Ok St. and TTU. They bring nothing to the table. Especially TTU. They have no major television markets, and they aren’t all that great in academia or athletics.

I feel sort of sorry for TA&M fans. They cant win much in the weak Big-12 as it is, yet they obviously want to leave because they are Texas’ underling. So now they are happy to go to a conference where they will pretty much never win anything. I do not envy their fans.

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by CaDuck on Aug 10, 2011 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Question:

If Super Conferences become a reality, and with them come gigantic coin purses for all the athletic programs involved, why do they need to be within driving distance of each other? Why can’t a team from Texas compete against a team from the northeast? If you add enough money in the pot doesn’t the travel cost become obsolete compared to the benefit of being a part of a super conference?

Is it the cost of flying their women’s volleyball, water polo, Ultimate Frisbee, etc. teams around that makes a long-distance relationship difficult? We know that basketball and football can bring in enough cash to charter a plane for a few games a year.

Everyone is so tied to the old geographical conferences, which is understandable, but if a major shift happens I wonder if we won’t see moves that make more sense financially than geographically.

by JonathanPDX on Aug 10, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

you mean like TCU to the Big East?

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by David Piper on Aug 10, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is it the cost of flying their women’s volleyball, water polo, Ultimate Frisbee, etc. teams around that makes a long-distance relationship difficult?

This is a large part of it, I think.

The other complicating factor is people who are lobbying on behalf of the schools that would get left out if something like your plan were to take shape. Consider the “leftovers” in the current Big XII who have no clear path if another tectonic realignment takes place:

-Texas goes independent, is fine
-OU is clearly desirable and will find a home, likely taking OSU with them wherever they go
-aTm can go to the SEC
-KU, Mizzou are certainly desirable enough to be seriously considered by either the PAC or the B1G; KU likely takes KSU with it
-TT could potentially find a home in the PAC, or maybe even the Big East if they decide to get serious about expansion

Baylor and Iowa State could easily get screwed in any scenario, since they bring significantly less to the table than even the less desirable of the aforementioned teams. People who care about those schools want to see regional ties preserved to prevent that.

Also, “tradition”.

"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall

by ProbablyMonty on Aug 10, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

There was stuff out yesterday

that if the Big XII were to break up last year, the Big East would have invited Mizzou, KU, KSU, and ISU as full members.

Iowa State would land on its feet somewhere, just because its a big state school with lots of alumni. If not the Big East, the Mountain West at worst.

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Aug 10, 2011 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah, interesting. I missed that.

Maybe only Baylor would get screwed, then? The MWC would likely take them, but… that’s a very clear downgrade until the MWC gets its own auto-bid.

"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall

by ProbablyMonty on Aug 10, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Baylor, BYU and Notre Dame can all join a God Squad Conference.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Iowa State in a conference with “mountain” in the name is funny to me … Ames, IA = boring and flat

by echo31 on Aug 10, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t want TT unless it means Texas too.

I wouldn’t take any of the Texas schools without Texas.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

The "student" issue might come in there.

For pro teams, time spent on a plane is less of a concern. It’s 24 hours a day sport. When you increase travel time and burden, there are a lot more conflicts in a student context where sport has to balance with class and study time. It’s a possible consideration.

by omb on Aug 10, 2011 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Also looking at the expansion game,

with super-conferences, you’re cutting down the FBS and looking a lot more like a NFL/NBA pro sized league. Now in those leagues, divisions and conferences are established collaboratively. What we seem to be looking at with the unstable Big XII and Pac/SEC vultures is a free-for-all. If the super conference model does come, it seems like it’s going to be potentially unstable or at the very least highly imbalanced if it doesn’t involve some kind of collaborative allocation.

by omb on Aug 10, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It would be interesting to see what shape would take place.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

OK St. could potentially get us a combination of Tulsa and Oklahoma City. Not good by themselves, but combined, they bring a decent market.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

you wouldn't get Oklahoma without taking Oklahoma State

it would be worth taking the one to get the other.

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by David Piper on Aug 10, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t mind Oklahoma State. Plus Oklahoma is even better.

As a fan, I don’t want to travel out there.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

I’d never want to go to Oklahoma, period. However, I guarantee you, being in the same conference is the only way we’d every get Oklahoma into Autzen again.

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by David Piper on Aug 10, 2011 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m okay with that. They are a bunch of babies anyway.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

We could replay

the onside kick during the pre-game a la “the pick”….

could you imagine?

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by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be funny.

But yeah… they should have sealed it. But they also should have stopped the OTHER TD and they should have blocked up front better to prevent us from blocking their field goal. That’s a 10 point swing they failed to defend.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also they never mention that bad calls in their favor led to 14 points for Oklahoma. Had that game been called competently Oregon would have been ahead by 13 at that point, negating the need for an onside kick.

by keeerrrttt1 on Aug 10, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

and yes.

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by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would guess the SEC also makes a run at Oklahoma if this happens

We could expand to 14 with Okla St and T Tech if we wanted, but that’s not great, nor is adding the Kansas schools.

by eloomis20 on Aug 10, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

When I saw NCAA12 had custom conferences I thought Aha! Here's a chance to see how superconferences would work out!

Then I discovered you can’t empty an existing conference — every conf has to have at least 4 teams, and there has to be one independent.

It’s all part of the grand ESPN conspiracy.

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by benzduck on Aug 10, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

make bowling green an independent

bolster up four conferences to 16 teams, change the automatic bowl teams and you’re golden, go pac16,big16,sec, and acc

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by jcgoducks on Aug 10, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok ill try that

How did you divvy yours up?

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by benzduck on Aug 10, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

TQOTD:

What was the last game at Autzen not to be sold out?

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 10, 2011 10:47 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Nevada. Whenever the last time they played here. 10 yrs ago? That’s how I got a ticket.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Aug 10, 2011 11:01 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Didn't Keith Lewis have a pick 6 that game?

I credit my urine for the victory.
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by mackjones23 on Aug 10, 2011 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nevada 1999

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by David Piper on Aug 10, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, well
Ken Goe
@KenGoe Ken Goe
Day 3, Oregon football practice and Miami Heat coach Erik Spoelstra is on the sideline

"We have an attack mindset from the get-go. We're going to try to pressure you in as many ways as we can, from the tempo we play at to the formations we run." - Chip Kelly

by runfast on Aug 10, 2011 1:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Why is he there?

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

To see how Chip runs his famous practices I’m guessing.

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by daisyduck on Aug 10, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

And wasn't his sister

Monica a Blazers front office person for a long time?

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by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't know he was a local.
Ken Goe
KenGoe Ken Goe Jesuit High (Portland) grad. Why not? RT @spencergchilds: "KenGoe: UO football practice, Erik Spoelstra on the sideline" – woah what for?

"We have an attack mindset from the get-go. We're going to try to pressure you in as many ways as we can, from the tempo we play at to the formations we run." - Chip Kelly

by runfast on Aug 10, 2011 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Staples is trolling ND pretty hard there. I approve.

"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall

by ProbablyMonty on Aug 10, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's great that

our student fan videos are so awesome, while theirs are…well…words fail.

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by daisyduck on Aug 10, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, our student videos contain Joey Harrington, which would make them amazing even if the music sucked. Which it really, really doesn’t.

Enough of soccer and baseball and golf and everything else that's not football. Stupid offseason...

by lovemyducks81 on Aug 10, 2011 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fr my next vlog I’m going over Oregon fan music. Did you know there are over 40 Oregon songs? Ducks clearly have cornered the market on fan-made songs, no other school comes anywhere close.

Hell, Oregon has 11 different versions of people changing Wiz Khalifa’s “Black and Yellow” to “Green and Yellow.” Of course every single college and pro team in the country had their own version of it, but did Oregon really need 11 different versions of it?

by keeerrrttt1 on Aug 11, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're thorough.

daisyduck's #8 fan, lacking the skills to be #1

by Bill Musgrave on Aug 11, 2011 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow that ND song is awesome

What would happen if Primus and Bootsy Collins both really sucked, and teamed up with a kiddie early 90’s rap band? We Are Notre Dame would happen.

by JonathanPDX on Aug 10, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fast. Hard. Finish

Could easily have been a Ramone’s album.

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by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This is so true.

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Curse you, Offseason.

by daisyduck on Aug 10, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Should have gone with Gang Green. “the world’s fastest band”.. Matches the color scheme. Ramones are so monochromatic.

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by benzduck on Aug 10, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can see Benzduck

moshing with a bunch of so-cal skate punks….

(that’s a good song by the way)

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by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

They’re from Boston.

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by benzduck on Aug 10, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why did you post a link to 2008 Washington football highlights?

by JonathanPDX on Aug 10, 2011 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is it on purpose

that they spelled weird wrong? Does it make it more weird to spell weird ‘wierd’ instead?
Wow, If I type weird one more time I’m not going to remember how to spell it right either.

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Curse you, Offseason.

by daisyduck on Aug 10, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I before E except after every other instance of when the letters of I and E are next to each other.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 10, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You would too if you had an atomic hangover

Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day

by webfoot73 on Aug 10, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly on Spoelstra visit
ESPN_Pac12blog
@ESPN_Pac12blog ESPN_Pac12blog
RT @DuckFootball: Kelly on Spoelstra visit: “We talked about the 1-2-2 trap. We’re going to implement it in third-down passing situations.”

Tradition never changes. Champions do.

by Mill_Duck on Aug 10, 2011 5:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Mosely actually said it first
Rob Moseley
@DuckFootball Rob Moseley
Kelly on Spoelstra’s visit: “We talked about the 1-2-2 trap. We’re going to implement it in third-down passing situations.”

Tradition never changes. Champions do.

by Mill_Duck on Aug 10, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like Kelly's comment about the pace of practice

Not only is it to acclimate the players to fast game time play, but to generate a lot of film.

The more film the have, the more they can teach from it in the evenings. That way, less practice time is devoted to instruction. Less time for instruction, more reps. More reps, more film. More film more instruction. Repeat.

That’s pure efficiency, right there.

My parents believed in me.

by flyduckfly on Aug 10, 2011 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

So FBSU fired their AD over the NCAA investigation?

Wonder what else is coming out?

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by benzduck on Aug 10, 2011 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

It seems like there must be something

because what we have heard about is so NOTHING. No one should get fired over those small fries – just take your small penalty and move on.

ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.

by daisyduck on Aug 10, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought God wanted Auburn to win

I can’t keep up with all of his teams.

ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.

by daisyduck on Aug 10, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

They must be afraid that they are about to get shafted by the NCAA. Having recruits sleep over at player’s houses (I think thats what happened) isnt all that big of a deal. They must have done something else that is serious.

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by CaDuck on Aug 10, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe there’s video of the sleepovers?

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Aug 10, 2011 9:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which sport are we talking about here?

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by Takimoto on Aug 10, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mixed triples in all three fbsu sports.

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Aug 10, 2011 9:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wanna say it was tennis or volleyball

Possibly baseball or basketball, but I don’t remember it being a revenue sport.

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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by DuckUntilDeath on Aug 11, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Football recruits sleeping over with girl’s volleyball?

Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day

by webfoot73 on Aug 11, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was men’s tennis, women’s tennis, and… either volleyball or softball.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-A-R-G-I-N-A-L-I-Z-E-D".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 11, 2011 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

That men’s tennis team really gets around.

ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.

by daisyduck on Aug 11, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they really did F BSU. That’s gotta be an infraction.

by JonathanPDX on Aug 10, 2011 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

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