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Lots of quack out there this morning.  Let's get right to it.

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Praise Boognish

That’s a lot of quack, its like 10 gallons of fun crammed into a 5 gallon bucket

by RaleighDuck on Aug 16, 2011 6:24 AM PDT reply actions  

Twss.

Now with mustache guarantee!

by HoodRiverDuck on Aug 16, 2011 7:32 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I love that Chip wears the same visor every day at practice

it seemed like St. Mike always had a new hat on. Seems like Chip really likes that visor.

I credit my urine for the victory.
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by mackjones23 on Aug 16, 2011 9:16 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm personally in favor of...

…tiny spandex shorts on athletic, college-age women. Others, not so much.

by scudderfan on Aug 16, 2011 9:35 AM PDT reply actions  

i thoroughly enjoy them on college aged women, and also French Canadians of all shapes and sizes

by RaleighDuck on Aug 16, 2011 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

ouch...

per Moseley

Tra Carson fell down just after taking one handoff, but moments later broke a couple of tackles on a long run, the first real “power” carry I’ve seen from a guy some fans seem to be projecting as the next Jim Brown. …

Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?

My name is not Bryce.

by Im Chris Hansen on Aug 16, 2011 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

I was wondering about that.

Carson has barely gotten any run in here at all. I don’t know who has been talking him up.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Aug 16, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

LMJ and Barner?

As far as fans anointing him as the next power back, he could be very good, but I doubt he’ll see the field this year.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Aug 16, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well Colt did it higher

and higher

Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?

My name is not Bryce.

by Im Chris Hansen on Aug 16, 2011 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tra’s impresses me more.

6’ 225lbs. That’s a big jump for a guy his size.

by sacduxnutz on Aug 16, 2011 1:04 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

it's in a book

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-A-R-G-I-N-A-L-I-Z-E-D".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 16, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

READING RAINBOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!

Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?

My name is not Bryce.

by Im Chris Hansen on Aug 16, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Reminder for the people in the ATQ College Football Fantasy League:

The draft is tonight at 9 ET/6 PT.

"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 16, 2011 12:05 PM PDT reply actions  

And at the risk of asking you youngsters to use ancient technology..

.. please check your email accounts that you used for signup.

Some highly important messages have been issued from Your Benevolent, If Despotic, Commissioner.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Aug 16, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I emailed you back.

"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 16, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quick question-why can't we draft Sun Belt, Conference USA, or MAC players?

I don’t think we should be able to draft WAC players if this is the case either.

"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 16, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wanna apoligize to everyone for missing the draft. Something important came up that required me to go 40 miles out of the way at 8:45.

Oh well. I’ll just make a team of waiver wire wonders and do my best.

"Fuck you UW. How many days since you last beat us?" -skywaker9

by QuackQuackAttack on Aug 16, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice to see all the new names making big plays, future looks bright!

Hoover: They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal!

by DamienS on Aug 16, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

This one will NOT require you to sign up for Ducks Empire

Epic video put together by the folks behind the site. If this doesn’t get you fired up for this season, nothing will:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBb-ibL3HxA&feature=youtu.be&a

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Aug 16, 2011 12:38 PM PDT reply actions  

THAT WAS NICE!

Really awesome work!

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Aug 16, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool
Rookie LB @SpittyP is playin with the first-team defense today. No sign of Michael Boley out here. #NYG"

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by skywaker9 on Aug 16, 2011 1:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Senior Leadership.

Miller’s post re seniors is interesting, but what I’d really enjoy seeing is a breakdown of how many starts are returning. It’s one thing to be a senior, but if you’ve never started a game, your value towards what they call “senior leadership” is a bit debased. And I think it’s dumb to consider someone who’s a lock to come out after this season a “senior” solely for that reason.

But Andrew Luck, with 2 solid years as a starter and 3 years in the program at the Farm might as well be a senior. He has more starts than DT and as much as I like DT, I’m ranking Luck higher for that reason. (But that doesn’t mean DT gets the same rating as the kid up in the land of the valley rodent — production counts).

For years I used the “senior leadership” metric as a good indicator of how P10 teams would perform down the stretch. Back in 2001 I knew we were going to be fine because we had solid multi-year starters in all the key positions on the field.

Normally I’d be concerned that we have so few seniors in leadership positions.. but because I know we rotate a lot of guys in, especially on D, I’m not as worried this year as maybe I should be.

But I do think we’re going to miss players like Matthews and Rowe and Paysinger and Davis and Holmes more than maybe some of y’all are willing to admit.

What y’all think? How important is “senior leadership” these days?

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Aug 16, 2011 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Fine, I'll admit it.

Senior leadership is invaluable. Because of you, ATQ is a better site.

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Aug 16, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I think it’s important, especially at the beginning of the season. It’s those guys who have seen four years of games who can be calming presences to the youngsters. I think we’ll be fine on offense – while not seniors, DT, LMJ, and the returning linemen seem like they’ll have a handle on keeping the offense moving.

It’s the defense that I’m worried about. Especially our defensive line and our linebacking corps. We have some great talent there, but it’s young talent.

It’s important to note, though, that “senior leadership” isn’t nearly as important as “wanting it more.”

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Aug 16, 2011 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

The crucial skill Darron Thomas can add to his game in year two as a starter

For all his accomplishments and all the many things he does well, Darron Thomas can add a vital tool to his toolbox as the Ducks seek their third straight conference title and compete for the national one: deception in the zone read mesh.

Dennis Dixon and Jeremiah Masoli were magicians with the ball as the triggermen in Oregon’s zone read. His senior year, Dixon regularly performed a Chriss Angel Mindfreak on defenses, television cameramen and whole stadiums, making the ball disappear and reappear in the end zone:

by duckfanmo on Aug 16, 2011 2:42 PM PDT reply actions  

oh, man.

Somebody’s screwed.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Aug 16, 2011 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, that’s pretty incredible.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Aug 16, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, someone beat me to the link

haven’t read it yet, don’t have time. NOBODY DO THE SPOILER ALERT

The "Bill Simmons" of ATQ

by axemen23 on Aug 16, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shit, meet fan

This must be the “10” article everyone was hinting at. Wow, Miami is completely screwed. Anyone for Schadenfreude?

by JonathanPDX on Aug 16, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s funny to say “shit, meet fan” if you refer to the fan as a person and not a mechanical device that creates air flow.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-A-R-G-I-N-A-L-I-Z-E-D".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 16, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Willie who?

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders – The most famous of which is "never practice slow football" – but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a DUCK when DEATH is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha…
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by DuckUntilDeath on Aug 16, 2011 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

Oregon’s alleged allegations now look like complete child’s play.

If Oregon was a “6”, this is about an 80.

"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 16, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dayum

Looks like I went to the wrong school after all.

Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Aug 16, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a massive effort that article represents

So many sources interviewed, facts confirmed and collaborated, reciepts, photos. The names of the players and coaches called out is a mile long. Great example of investigative journalism.
What are thoughts on the punishment that could be handed down? Can’t be anything less than postseason ban for at least 3 years for FB and MBB. I’d say death penalty but doubt anyone will get that again. Wow

by OregonNYC on Aug 16, 2011 5:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Death penalty only applies

If you are found to have committed a major violation and THEN within five years afterwards you commit another (after having been found guilty)> That paradoxically doesn’t apply.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Aug 16, 2011 5:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nobody will get the death penalty again,

It simply causes too much irreparable damage for any school to handle.

All of their games over the last decade will probably be vacated, but that means next to nothing. Scholarship reductions are probably going to be generously applied to Miami a la USC. If scholarships are going to be taken away, I would assume that the privilege of playing in bowls is going to be taken away as well.

All in all, I would be surprised if their punishment wasnt an extremely ramped up USC style punishment.

Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Aug 16, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The part that makes this worse of course

Is that Miami’s AD was the head of the infractions committee when they hammered USC for not knowing about benefits to Reggie Bush. They’re going to have to bend over backwards to hammer Miami here as a result.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Aug 16, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Honestly,

Every single detail of what Miami did is sort of an “even worse so…” scenario for them.

Every single one seems worse than the last. They couldnt be any more screwed than they possibly are. Underage drinking, football hit lists, gifts, cash payments, hookers, free housing, hotel parties with a lot of hookers, paying for said impregnated hooker’s abortions, free 24/7 access to a party boat/2 mansions stocked with alcohol and inexplicably even more hookers (I am starting to sense a theme here), paying off recruits and coaches, funneling collegiate players to agents via a lot of cash; all of whoch came from a near billion dollar ponzi/embezzlement scheme, administrators and head coaches knowingly casting a blind eye (or taking some benefits on the side), and new AD that is about to feel the wrath of the NCAA spider-god (not to mention a probable plethora of details left out). It would probably take hours just to write down all of the violations.

At least this takes the college football world’s attention away from Lyles/UO.

Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Aug 16, 2011 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

the little itty bitty thing about DT being in the car with Cliff. I’d like to thank Yahoo for their timing.

ATQ's #1 Bill Musgrave fan
Curse you, Offseason.

by daisyduck on Aug 16, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

The most amazing part to me

Is that a booster (Nevin) was handing tens of thousands of dollars to Da U and he was a 30% owner in an agent business!!! He even tried to start a drunk fist-fight with the compliance director. AND NOBODY GAVE A FUCK. I hope Paul Dee is living under a bridge like in the movie Scarface within a week.

by SeattleDucks on Aug 16, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

They might as well take over the NCAA. They are clearly more competent.

Self anointed President of the Kenjon Barner fan club.

by CaDuck on Aug 16, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, what a great job they did.

Re the penalty, I realize the death penalty is off the table. What do we think is likely? Seeing the duration of this, crossing multiple sports, dozens of players, with the knowledge of multiple coaches, potentially millions of dollars in improper benefits including cash, diamonds, and hookers…. Whatever the level is below death penalty is has to apply, right?

by OregonNYC on Aug 16, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probation forever

Show cause order for every single coach involved (or at least several), lots of scholarship reductions, post-season bans.

No TV bans because that hurts the other schools.

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Aug 16, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

The BEST part - Teddy Dupay

I have a feeling the name Teddy Dupay may go down in pop culture lore…

by Duckity_Duck on Aug 16, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

No this is best
"Kellen Winslow Jr. was introduced to me the first time on my boat. I forgot who introduced him to me or was providing for him to come by. I think it was Antrel Rolle. I’m pretty sure it was. Kellen came to the boat [and] went out with us. There was one incident where he was on a jet ski and he hit another boat. Luckily, we were able to get him out of that situation and I didn’t have any problems."

"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely

by skywaker9 on Aug 16, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lol

The guy put a hit out on Tebow. I find this hilarious… He must be a very bad man.

"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Aug 16, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tako, what happened to your prediction?

That’s twice that your HEART HAS BEEN RIPPED OUT

"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray

by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 16, 2011 7:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Joke's on you, I didn't even watch today's game!

I went to the zoo instead.

Addicted to Quack, #1 Oregon blog among female Duck fans, including the ageless and ever-radiant daisyduck.

by Takimoto on Aug 16, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, I mean the zoo.

Addicted to Quack, #1 Oregon blog among female Duck fans, including the ageless and ever-radiant daisyduck.

by Takimoto on Aug 17, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

There is a zoo in Golden Gate Park.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders – The most famous of which is "never practice slow football" – but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a DUCK when DEATH is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha…
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by DuckUntilDeath on Aug 17, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

The SF Zoo is actually next to Lake Merced park.

There’s a herd of buffalo in Golden Gate Park, but I don’t know if that qualifies. In any event, I was at the Oakland Zoo. And I don’t mean the Coliseum during a Raider game.

Addicted to Quack, #1 Oregon blog among female Duck fans, including the ageless and ever-radiant daisyduck.

by Takimoto on Aug 17, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know where the SF Zoo is.

I thought there were more than just ralphies there. No?

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders – The most famous of which is "never practice slow football" – but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a DUCK when DEATH is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha…
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by DuckUntilDeath on Aug 17, 2011 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

There used to be a sort of "free-range" zoo a while back. Now it's just the buffs.

Addicted to Quack, #1 Oregon blog among female Duck fans, including the ageless and ever-radiant daisyduck.

by Takimoto on Aug 17, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m from awhile back.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders – The most famous of which is "never practice slow football" – but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a DUCK when DEATH is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha…
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by DuckUntilDeath on Aug 17, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do we start making old guy jokes about you now?

I hope not, it’s a stupid meme.

daisyduck's #8 fan, lacking the skills to be #1

by Bill Musgrave on Aug 17, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not THAT old.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders – The most famous of which is "never practice slow football" – but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go against a DUCK when DEATH is on the line"! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha…
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

by DuckUntilDeath on Aug 17, 2011 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, what happens if

Miami has 20 starters ruled ineligible? Are they going to field an entire team of walk-ons this year?

by JonathanPDX on Aug 16, 2011 9:45 PM PDT reply actions  

That would be the least of their worries

Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day

by webfoot73 on Aug 16, 2011 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently Miami didn't have any dealings with Lyles.

Just think how bad that would be for them

Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day

by webfoot73 on Aug 16, 2011 9:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Anybody notice the coverage on espn.com of the Miami debacle?

No? That’s because ther isn’t any. One “top stories” link, above “who’s got the pot?”

Hmmm. Si.com is all over this.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Aug 16, 2011 10:11 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Where was the media?

A guy 5’ 5" walks into a bar with a bunch of 300lb “kids” for years and no one notices? This is the town of the rich and famous, Crockett and Tubbs, and every hotel has picture walls of the famous (most long dead) they have served, yet not one question or report made. Sounds like all of Miami was complicit.

Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day

by webfoot73 on Aug 16, 2011 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

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