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Oregon's O-line: The Facts (and some conjecture)

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If you've felt inclined, as I have the past few days, to read previews of the Oregon v. LSU game, you've run into one recurring theme. It goes something like this: "Oregon's big question mark is the offensive line, where the Ducks return only two starters. The Ducks have a history of struggling with physical defensive lines and will probably do so against LSU." It's always a foregone conclusion, typically followed by the seemingly mandatory dose of "SEC - SEC - SEC".

On a couple of occasions I've taken a few minutes to set the record straight. Fighting the good fight, if you will. Here are the facts.

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R-G beat writer Rob Moseley has posted a couple possible starting line-ups recently. One looks like (R to L) Asper, Golpashin, Grasu, York and Weems. The other looks like Asper, York, Grasu, Clanton and Weems.

Carson York and Mark Asper meet all definitions of returning starters. Asper has 24 career starts. York has 22.

Darrion Weems seems to be the guy many writers are missing on. So let's clarify. Weems has eight career starts for the Ducks. Seven of those came last year, at left tackle versus Tennessee, Portland State, #9 Stanford, Washington and #1 Auburn, and at right tackle versus Washington State and #24 USC. He played no less than 20 snaps in 11 games in 2009, including a start and 67 snaps in the Halloween ass-whoopin' put on #4 USC.

Call me a rebel, but I'm saying the Ducks return three starters on the O-line, not two. To state otherwise is to admit you're not paying attention. Plenty of folks guilty of that these days, even a few who collect a paycheck from a publisher and as such are deemed legitimate by our local compass of credibility, Lindsay Schnell. Yes, that was a shot and probably diminishes my credibility.

So what do we have in the guys who have no starts?

It's beginning to look like Hroniss Grasu has won the starting center spot, and it's not unfair to call him the biggest question mark. As a redshirt freshman, he has zero starts. He'll have butterflies. He may have to make critical assignment calls. I say may because that responsibility can be managed from other positions. He'll have some big beef with bad intentions lined up right across his nose. He'll have to make crisp, accurate snaps under duress or everything goes to crap.

That said, Grasu's "measurements" look excellent. He's 6-3 and just under 3-bills. In just his second year in the program he ranks top three among all Duck lineman for nearly all of the lifts and runs. Physically, Grasu's got it. If he can keep it together between his ears he might hold his own just fine on Sept. 3. BTW - I'm no prognosticator (you've ATQers have seen my game picks), but I have a hunch that Grasu might end his college career as one of the best centers Oregon has seen in a while. The LSU game might just be his first step as a four-year starter.

Ramsen Golpashin is an interesting story. A former walk-on, he played 18 or more snaps in five games last season. Remember that game-ending, down-your-throat drive to finish the game at Cal? Yep, Golpashin was in for an injured Weems. True, weighing in at 275, he's light. He's also agile, like Grasu.

Ryan Clanton is a wild card. He's 6-5, 300, strong as an ox and shows decent agility. He's new, so we have little to go on except generally positive reviews from local guys who've watched him each day of camp. Whether he starts or subs, it shouldn't shock us if Clanton shows the ability to at least hang with LSU's boys.

Just so I'm not misunderstood...  LSU's front line should present a significant challenge. They will be tough and they they might regularly disrupt Oregon's offense. No different than Ohio State. No different than Auburn. Questions will have to be answered by new guys with no starts, just like they will have to be answered by Asper, York and Weems who were on the field for two BCS bowl losses.

Color my glasses green, but I guess I'm not willing to concede that the line is without question advantage LSU. It's entirely plausible that Oregon's TWO new starters will do good enough. And if they do good enough for a couple quarters, and if that special offensive rhythm kicks in and if LSU's big guys get gassed, they might even do great. The experience is there, and those lacking experience have been coached up by one of the best position coaches in the country, Steve Greatwood.

Next time you see some random writer or poster yapping about Oregon's lack of experience up front, consider taking a moment to set the record straight. You've got all the facts you need right here.

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Yes, that was a shot and probably diminishes my credibility.

How can that diminish your credibility when, as a middling blogger, you had none to begin with. You’re just a fan, with smelly hair and no friends.

Addicted to Quack, #1 Oregon blog among female Duck fans, including the ageless and ever-radiant daisyduck.

by Takimoto on Aug 23, 2011 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

No… he’s just a fan, with smelly friends and no hair.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-A-R-G-I-N-A-L-I-Z-E-D".
"If Lache Seastrunk is the POTG against LSU, I will formally quit ATQ." - Axemen23 on 6/21/2011

by JShufelt on Aug 23, 2011 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

better that

than smelly hair and no friends.

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Aug 24, 2011 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm so glad that JC (no not that one)

decided to kick off our football season of posts I get to rec’d.

Well done Jeremy.

"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian

by Matt Daddy on Aug 23, 2011 9:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Preach!

Very solid article. I’m sure the other JC (Clown Shoes) factored this into his shocking prognostication for the Oregon season, but it was new to me and I spend too much time reading this blogs

I hope Jefferson doesn’t get suspended. Some of the weirdos on TigerDroppings.com thing J Lee is a better QB anyway..

I’ll take Chip with a month to prepare over old grass eater Leslie Miles.

It’s a girls. name.

Herman Ho-Ching hotboxed my room.

by dhustle on Aug 23, 2011 10:33 PM PDT reply actions  

The backup QB is the most popular guy on the team...

until he gets in a game when it matters. It usually turns out bad. There is a reason JJ is the starter. Remember when many Duck fans wanted Brady Leaf to play over Dennis Dixon in ’06. Then we saw Leaf in the game.

by black_and_yellow on Aug 24, 2011 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Don’t remind me about Leaf. I cringed whenever he was in the game.

"You better show up. You don’t have to be the best team in the country. You just have to be the best team in the stadium on that day."- Chip Kelly

by Ice Man Ike on Aug 24, 2011 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

i hope everyone on LSU gets suspended. i want a win not a good story.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Aug 24, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

No - really?

Would you want us to play a big tray of cupcakes for nonconference?
If you want to be the best, you’ve got the beat the best.

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Curse you, Offseason.

by daisyduck on Aug 24, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I do

Have I mentioned how much I hate the 9 conference game schedule?

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by Matt Daddy on Aug 24, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t recall that conversation.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-A-R-G-I-N-A-L-I-Z-E-D".
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by JShufelt on Aug 24, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would rather play

an 8 game conference schedule as well. However, I don’t want to pair it with an appetizer of cupcakes.

ATQ's #1 Matt Daddy fan
Curse you, Offseason.

by daisyduck on Aug 24, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

You bring up a good point...

Cupcakes are usually played early in the season.

But Cupcakes are dessert. They should come after the meal.

I hereby pronounce all bowl games as “Cupcakes”

All games formally refereed to as “Cupcakes” are now called any of the following:

Appetizers, Tapas, Hors d’oeuvres, Antipasto, Canapés, or munchies.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-A-R-G-I-N-A-L-I-Z-E-D".
The loser waiting outside the daisyduck club because the bouncer won't let me in.

by JShufelt on Aug 24, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Jesus

what do you think we’re from Stanford or something?? I had to google that and so did 99% of the AtQ universe (benzduck probably knew since he’s smart enough to get into Reed and Acadian Traverse probably knew since they are like halfway British in Canada).

Let’s stay within our social strata and call them chips and salsa.

ATQ's #1 Matt Daddy fan
Curse you, Offseason.

by daisyduck on Aug 24, 2011 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seconded. Motion Carried.

Chip and Salsa it is.

"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian

by Matt Daddy on Aug 24, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Playing lsu

won’t hurt us if we lose to them. Meaning we will drop about 4 spots because we just lost to the 4th ranked team. We will have the rest of the season to make up five spots, very plausible. Now if we win, it helps us tremendously. So I think we should schedule a top five team every year for the first game, its like an early bowl game.

by P. Milla on Aug 24, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

We'll drop more than 4 spots

Probably down to 11 at best.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Aug 27, 2011 7:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

While giving 111%.

That’s 1% more than what coaches expect.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-A-R-G-I-N-A-L-I-Z-E-D".
The loser waiting outside the daisyduck club because the bouncer won't let me in.

by JShufelt on Aug 24, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

i’m still not used to seeing us win. i like watching us win. still pleasantly surprised when we win. i’m not picky about wins.

Life is about growth. People are not perfect when they're 21 years old. - Bill Walton

by NEP on Aug 24, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

My wife (Wisconsin alum) has always defined a successful team as “one with a reasonable chance of winning all its home games.”

That standard has always served us well.

The "Beano Cook" of ATQ.

by benzduck on Aug 27, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m down for playing tough opponents. I hate losing. I hate bad football more.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Aug 24, 2011 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well

One very important thing for QBs is experience.

A solid skill QB can do pretty bad without any experience. Matt Barkley is a good example of a NFL bound QB that lacked a lot of experience his first season around.

NOW, this is not ALWAYS true. Darron Thomas is a great example of a QB with no experience doing very well. However, he did have some of the best skill players in the country to help him.

Point is.. no matter who starts for LSU I think it will be one hell of a battle!

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Aug 24, 2011 8:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

and yeah, the typos were on purpose

I need to throw this laptop out the window. Speaking of Cam Newton! Hi yo!

Herman Ho-Ching hotboxed my room.

by dhustle on Aug 23, 2011 10:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank You...

Everytime the talking heads and idiots with pens (sports writers) say that there are only 2 returning starters I want to bang my head against the wall. How is Weems not a starter when he started over half the games last season (including the Natty)? It just shows how little they know about the team and how they will just parrot what people of their ilk have said.

by black_and_yellow on Aug 24, 2011 1:03 AM PDT reply actions  

You’re welcome b&y. Let’s just say the topic had been eating at me for a few weeks. I bumped into yet another six paragraph game preview flush with misinformation and it set me off.

I opened Google Plus and it said "Write a note." So I wrote: Eb. Nothing happened.

by JConant on Aug 24, 2011 1:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great write up!

Love the insight and the optimism, now I can take a deep breath, and just worry about our WRs!

Hoover: They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal!

by DamienS on Aug 24, 2011 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

OR DO YOU?!?!

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-M-A-R-G-I-N-A-L-I-Z-E-D".
The loser waiting outside the daisyduck club because the bouncer won't let me in.

by JShufelt on Aug 24, 2011 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

What’s funny is I just gone done writing this when i saw the post.

But I’m still nervous as I think any injury would make us more one dimensional and play into some of the scheams that other teams have had success with. I sense in the OL we may have a little more depth in terms of big names who just havn’t been tested, WR’s I don’t think as much but maybe I’m off on this?

Hoover: They confiscated everything, even the stuff we didn't steal!

by DamienS on Aug 24, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nice writing

Thanks for the stats :)

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Aug 24, 2011 8:28 AM PDT reply actions  

That was a good write-up. This is not Boise State in 2009, no matter how often the ESPN talking heads try to force the comparison. The Ducks return something like 54 starts this year, and the players that fill in the rotation are stronger, more agile, and have had more meaningful snaps. Clanton and Grasu, Golpashin, Cody are all solid guys with enough time in the system to be cohesive and versatile as a unit. Everett Benyard III (6-7,325) has also made great strides in his development as a sophomore.

Another important factor is that Steve Greatwood’s group has had a very productive fall camp. They’ve been healthy, which has allowed them to practice together. The starting group of Weems, Clanton, Grasu, York and Asper has been intact throughout camp, and that’s huge in their readiness.

Good to have JC back to lay down the knowledge.

by duckfanmo on Aug 24, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd like to mention two things, one each about each of the newcomers you listed, Golpashin and Grasu.

The biggest ‘fight’ I saw during the entire spring was during 3 × 3′s and Ramsen was opposite David Paulson. The matchup was unusual because it was almost always Oline vs Dline and I wasn’t sure why it happened but certain that it did happen. Those two hit each other with such force that everyone’s attention was riveted upon those two it seemed, tho’ 4 other men were similarly engaged, but not like these two. Neither was giving or backing down and the whistle blowing did not stop the combat. They went on with the struggle for close to 10 seconds and as neither would back up, they moved to the left and then down to the turf. Other players finally pulled them apart. I had never seen David so animated and my impression of him changed. I think now in retrospect that they were ‘matched’ up so the Ramsen could ‘teach’ David blocking toughness. Or, perhaps it was the other way around.? What I do know is that people who were watching talked about THAT particular event the rest of the day and alluded to it for days afterward.

The other has to do with the first time that I met Tony Dungy; it was at the Mo Center. A friend and I ‘dropped in’ because we heard that some of the new guys were working out regularly, Grasu was one of the young men. A team mate of Brian Bennett (with whom I have been enamored except for his throwing over the middle) at Crespi High School (we got the Crespi Creams) I now think that Grasu may be the sleeper of that draft. NO ONE practices harder or more often. His snaps are close to perfection. He worked in partnership with Bennett and they each demanded the best from each other, at least that’s the way that it seemed when I was watching.
 Tony was just looking for a laundromat on his cell phone (he said.)

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Aug 25, 2011 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for that post...

very informative and exciting….I’ve been doing pretty good, but I can’t take it any longer.

I can haz footbawl?

by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Aug 26, 2011 6:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Football postesr are out! Free in The Duck Store @ Autzen. Better get there soon, they'l be gone by tomorrow evening.

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Aug 26, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I favor letting the talking heads "think"

we have only two returning OL starters – doesn’t bother me a bit. For such a “green” OL, it will perform better than expected – much to the credit, then, of Coach ’Wood.

Comparing “returning starters” is an inexact science, at best. Remember the Fuskies had a certain number of “returning starters” the year they went 0-12.

by Coastal Duck on Aug 26, 2011 9:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Heard Isaac Ropp of 1080 the Fan...

call Hroniss Grasu undersized weighing 275. Jason Swygard, the producer, informed Ropp that Grasu weighed about 290. Ropp not one to let facts get in the way of the point he was trying to make continued with his position that Hroniss is undersized and basically kind of a weakling (parapharsing).

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6090/6059050488_38280dc137_s_d.jpg

by black_and_yellow on Aug 27, 2011 2:18 AM PDT reply actions  

Is IR the one they call Big Suck or is he Little Suck?

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Aug 27, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

So typical. Maybe if Ropp would just take a minute to review Grasu’s profile, which lists him as 6-3, 291:

Finished top three among offensive linemen in vertical leap (second, 27"), power clean (second, 319 pounds), squat (tied for second, 485 pounds), 10-yard electric (second, 1.89 seconds), 20-yard electric (t-first, 3.09 seconds), shuttle run (t-first, 4.41 seconds), "L" Run (first, 7.73 seconds) during winter conditioning.

I heard a radio interview with Chip just this afternoon where he reiterated that Grasu has bulked up, had a very good camp and has played very consistently. Call me a homer, but I’m willing to take Chip’s word for it as opposed to a Portland semi-pro sports radio guy who apparently is using last year’s profile for his “prep” work.

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by JConant on Aug 29, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

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