Homers guide to LSU: Compliance to be proud of, and the best tailgating around
by jtlight on Aug 30, 2011 11:00 AM PDT
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This year at ATQ, we're starting a new series, giving you the low-down on what you need to know to survive any interaction with opposing fans.
Let's start out with the best. LSU is widely known to have the best tailgating in college football. Suck it Ole Miss, if you can't have beer at your tailgates, you don't belong in the conversation. LSU fans turn their food preparations into an event. Since their games are often at night, this means that tailgating lasts for hours. If you're an opposing fan, prepare for some good-natured abuse, play nice, and you just might get some really, really awesome food out of the trip. If you're headed to Dallas, I suggest making friends with LSU fans that are cooking duck.
Of course, you'll need some points of commiseration if you run accross any Tiger fans online or in person. A good starting point: Gary Crowton. Oregon's OC in 2005-2006 fled to LSU before the 2007 season, and LSU fans were stuck with him for 4 long years. They saw offensive production drop for 3 straight years before there was a slight uptick last season. You can join with Tiger fans in pointing and laughing at a man that forgot he had Jonathan Stewart for large stretches of games. Of course we can't be too disappointed, Gary's departure paved the way for Chip Kelly to become Oregon's offensive coordinator. LSU hasn't fared so well, as offensive coordinator Steve Kragthorpe has had to take a step back due to illness, while their starting QB Jordan Jefferson is indefinitely suspended.
Speaking of 2007, LSU won one of their three national titles in 2007. That also happened to be first time in 47 years that the AP champion had two losses, and Bill Connelly at Football Outsiders named LSU the 6th worst champion since 1938. Congrats Tigers! You won the least memorable and most mediocre college football season of the BCS era! Actually, the most memorable part of that season was Dennis Dixon's injury. That says something about that year.
Want to pick a fight with an LSU fan? Just bring up 2003 USC, or really, USC in general. You will never see previously friendly people turn angry so quickly. The 2003 LSU team was great, but has been a bit lost in the shadows behind the 2003-2005 USC teams that were in the conversation of greatest ever. A "USC would have killed LSU in 2003" is the easiest troll around.
We should always learn something from our competition as well. We as Oregon fans have had a rough go of the past few months, with our university being scrutinized by the NCAA. Let's take a page from LSU's book. While self-sanctioning for major violations, their compliance department was praised. That is some pure awesomeness right there.
We'll have trivia every week, so here's your LSU trivia: William Tecumseh Sherman was the first superintendent of Louisiana State Seminary of Learning & Military Academy, which would later become Lousiana State University. After secession was announced, Sherman stated:
You people of the South don't know what you are doing.
I believe this quote applicable in almost any situation. While Sherman's domination of the south took a few years, it eventually happened. This pattern will soon be replicated in the Sherman family line, with Sherman's little-known great-great-great grandson, Chip Tecumseh Sherman.
Lastly, let's take a look at LSU on youtube:
Here's Jordan Jefferson confusing a founding father with a TV character.
Here's Les Miles being Les Miles, with two very different results.
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I can't help
but ask myself, how did that 2007 LSU team win the ship? Les is so frickin lucky! I makes me a little uncomfortable think that something whacky is going to happen at our expense. But at the same time, I think that crap can’t happen to the Ducks. I don’t know what to think right now.
I think we already had our share of whakyness
in the NCG with that missed Dyer tackle at the end. That kind of crap better not happen again!
Over the years, we had the same/similar play go in our favor 3 times: Droughns, Mo Mo, Blount
It was bound to happen to us one day.
Or its fucking crazy we’ve had 4 such plays in fairly recent history.
Euler's #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Aug 30, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be if we hadn't gone through a period
Where basically every game was nuts. Thanks for that Joey.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
2007, I'll address '03 farther down in the comments
These are the final AP top 15, and their records against teams finishing in the top 15:
1 LSU ………………..5-0
2 Georgia ……………2-1
3 USC ………………..0-0
4 Missouri …………..1-2
5 Ohio St …………….0-1
6 West Virg ………….1-0
7 Kansas …………….1-1
8 Oklahoma …………3-1
9 Virg Tech …………..1-2
10 Boston Coll ………1-1
11 Texas ……………..0-1
12 Tennessee ……….1-2
13 Florida ……………1-3
14 BYU ……………….0-0
15 Auburn ……………1-2
LSU was more than deserving of their 2007 title
JUSTICE FOR JORDAN!!
by andyj on Aug 30, 2011 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Suck it Ole Miss, if you can’t have beer at your tailgates, you don’t belong in the conversation.
I have never been to the grove and it is held in high esteem, but what you brought up is a serious weakness and blows.
and Bill Connelly at Football Outsiders named LSU the 6th worst champion since 1938. Congrats Tigers!
My response: WooHoo!!! I can still remember Ali Highsmith hit on Krenzel sealing the deal—here comes some Ohio St. fan in 1, 2, 3….to say how much their football team and QB sucked (which I don’t agree with) as a rebuttal whereas before the game most of the media was picking OSU.
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
It should be a great game on Saturday--may the best team win
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
*Highsmith hit on Boeckman....
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Aug 30, 2011 5:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
lucky?
How was the 2007 LSU team lucky to win the ship? Looking at the top teams wins & losses that yr, who would you have put in their place?
The reply button is your friend. I thought that you were referring to something I wrote, and I was quite confused.
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Well....
I got my years mixed up, that ole miss clip above was from 09. But ya know what, for there to be only one one-loss team and zero undefeated teams at the end of the season is pretty lucky. I wouldn’t have minded USC going. Although that year is painful to bring cause Dixon’s knee kept us from going to the ship and from him winning the heisman. Anyway, I think Kelly will out coach les, but it will be up to the players to execute.
Ducks 34 – 13
Since you brought it up...
I’ve got no problem with USC. We won the title, they didn’t. Simple as that. I don’t blame them for campaigning — we’d have done the same — I blame the media for trying to de-legitimize our title. We won the crystal. Seriously. I’ve seen it. It’s really cool. Is the BCS system stupid? You bet. But the rules is the rules. We won under the asinine rules in place…. though I do think we would’ve beaten USC that year. The team we all need to hate on is Oklahoma, who made the title game despite failing to win their conference.
The luck thing does make me vomit blood.
LSU outgained Florida and Tennessee by 2-to-1 margins last year. they were lucky to be even in those games. And I’ve never got how Tennessee’s stupidity is lucky when we beat them, but Tennessee’s stupidity is not luck when Bama beat them the year prior. LSU tanked a 20-point 4th quarter lead against UNC because our team was planning the parties out in Buckhead, yet that win was luck. We dominated those three games on the statsheet, only to have bad luck keep those games close.
Luck is just an excuse to rob Miles of credit. Our bad bounces are proof of Miles’ idiocy and our fortunate bounces are proof of his blind luck. It really, really pisses me off. Where was this luck when our defensive backs fell down — twice — against Arkansas last year? Where was luck when Patrick Peterson got robbed of his interception against Bama? Bad breaks happen. Deal.
I guarrantee there will be some fortunate bounces in this game. there are lucky bounces and calls in every game ever played. Luck is the residue of design.
Sorry ‘bout that. Other than that — we’re quite friendly. We will yell at you, just yell back. Keep it good natured, and someone will give you a beer. Oh, and don’t make fun of our band. We take that stuff seriously.
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our band is better than your band. yeah i said it.
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by Poseur on Aug 31, 2011 6:27 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
Same here and 5% Purple Haze
Reporter: What would you say a Greg Studrawa offense is like? Stud:
"Attack and be very physical…fly around…attacking, come after you and come after you and come after you…." Me: I love this answer.
GET TO THE RIM HEAT (and SKY)! ATTACK THE PAINT!
by mjtig on Aug 31, 2011 7:57 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Maybe people think Les Miles is an idiot because he's awful in late-game situations. Just maybe.
"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 30, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
(Not that I'm saying he's an idiot. But he is terrible in late-game situations.)
"And like lambs to the slaughter, the Braves take the field."- Skip Caray
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 30, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
We won the title, they didn’t.
LSU won the BCS title. And USC won the AP title, which is, in the eyes of most college football fans, every bit as legitimate. But yeah, I also blame the media for giving USC more credit because they went on to such a spectacular year in 2004. LSU was a great team, but with what happened that season, splitting the national title was the best thing that could have happened.
As far as Les Miles go, I don’t really think he’s lucky. He goes balls out, and either wins or loses is awesomely spectacular fashion. LSU is easily the most entertaining team in the SEC. I really hope to make it to Baton Rouge for a game sometime.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
If you do make it to Baton Rouge
just make sure it’s for a night game! There’s really no comparison between day and Night in Death Valley!
I really want to make it to Autzen (sp?) some time as well, its reputation is right up there with DV. I’ve always been a big Ducks fan (partly because I LOVE to hunt them ;-) and because my dear, dear great-aunt retired from teaching English in Portland, and then substituted for years after that. Her name is Ruth Dowling, she may have taught some of you knuckleheads!
I also have some good friends here in Vietnam who are Oregonians and Duck fans, a great group of guys.
JUSTICE FOR JORDAN!!
2003
These are the final AP points and rankings of the teams they played
LSU 13-1 (lost to #24 Fla)
1255 …#7 Georgia
165 …..#24 Fla
8 ……….Auburn
845 ….#13 Miss St
73 …….Arkansas
1255 …#7 Georgia
3601 Total regular season and conference CG
1476… #3 Oklahoma
5077 Total after the bowl game
USC 12-1 (lost to unranked CAL)
1060 ..#9 Wash St
8………Auburn
8 ……..Oregon St
1076 Total regular season (no conference CG)
1281.. #6 Michigan
2357 Total after the bowl game
Again, these are the AP! points of their respective competition. The AP giving the ship to USC was a response to the fact that Oklahoma should never have been in the CG to begin with, after being thoroughly spanked in their conference CG. But that’s not LSU’s fault. The CG should have been LSU-USC, but by the AP’s own criteria LSU deserved their title as well, IMO.
Damn this inability to do any kind of text formatting, and lack of an edit function!
JUSTICE FOR JORDAN!!
Good luck to both teams, it should be a great game.
I hope that juju accepts the offering of many hours of free time that should be spent with family and friends, doing housework or job work or watching old video of Akili Smith willing the ducks into overtime against osu (and then losing) that me finally registering represents.
by builds character on Aug 30, 2011 8:14 PM PDT reply actions
So it isn’t just the LSU fans that think there backups are better then the starters one of there writers think so to. Here’s a podcast on the solidverbal & Moseley also makes an appearance to talk about the Ducks
Depth
I do think LSU’s strength is roster depth. How often is there a preseason top five team with only one all conference player?
Saying all of our backups are as good as the starters is silly, but this team does come at you in waves. And some of the marquee players are not starters: Matthieu, Freak, and T-Bob are among our most discussed players. T-Bob was even one of our three reps at media days. None are starters. So it’s not totally out of left field. This team doesn’t really rely on star players, it relies on depth.
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by Poseur on Aug 31, 2011 6:55 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
You could replace every instance of LSU in that sentence with Oregon, and it wouldn’t change anything (outside of the player names).
Both teams are very deep. If LSU fans think that is going to be an advantage, they are sadly mistaken.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Like jtlight said we have a lot of depth to so it washes out there, & I’m not trying to take shots at you guys either if people say the same thing on my own teams it annoys me. I’ve been guilty of it before too but try not to do it now
There are plenty of Duck fans that talk about our pace and how that will wear down LSU. It’s not gonna make a difference in this game. Both teams are very deep and talented.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I’m obviously not as familiar with Oregon so I was certainly not trying to say we are deep and you’re not. I limit the statement to LSU is deep and that’s it.
Both teams are really good and very talented. Honestly, I think we might be the two most talented teams in the country and I wouldn’t be shocked if there was a rematch in January. I love y’alls team and especially your pace. I’m excited about such a legit test of our team. Best of luck to both squads, and kudos to both schools for scheduling this game.
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by Poseur on Aug 31, 2011 8:11 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
You guys are confusing me.
You’re nothing like Auburn or Boise State fans. And that is about the biggest compliment for a fan base there is.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-I-M-P-A-T-I-E-N-T".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
I hate Auburn
There is not a team I loathe more. It’s not a rivalry, it’s utter contempt. If I woke up an Auburn fan, I’d kill myself.
We are secure in our place in the football universe to be complimentary of other good programs. Y’all are fun to watch, and I’ve always had a soft spot for UO. Maybe because I ran middle distance in high school and worshipped Prefontaine.
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by Poseur on Aug 31, 2011 10:57 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
May the best team win!
Oh and my SS (RTG) signed with LSU in NCAA 2012! Hard hitter ;)
Already have 3 players in OU and I do like the intensity of the LSU team.
Gonna be real fun game to watch! GL HF!
ssshhh....
suck it Ole Miss?
Who says you can’t bring beer to the tailgate in the Grove. There just not a lot of it because folks prefer the finer things…bourbon, vodka and gin. Plus people are eager to share. We even provide corn dogs da tigahs come to town.
by 1826 N. Broad on Aug 31, 2011 5:23 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
The finer things? And then you list Vodka? Well that’s just embarrassing.
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by jtlight on Aug 31, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
There’s no such thing as a good vodka.
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