How We Go: Oregon's offense vs. LSU's defense
The story goes that LSU is an interesting matchup for Oregon because it gives Oregon the challenge of doing what they have failed to do in the past, whether it be Auburn, Cal, or Ohio State -- and that is showcase the spread offense against a big, physical defensive line. A big part of this game, of course, will come down to just that. If Oregon can win the battle at the line of scrimmage, Oregon will win the game, and probably going away. The Ducks will run their bread and butter, the zone read, and the ancillary plays off that. Yet, I am excited for what else we might see, because there are a ton of things we've seen flashes of that LSU will have to prepare for. Will we see two back sets with James and Barner, or even a two back sets with James and DeAnthony Thomas with Barner as the slot receiver (Barner at slot is something we saw in the spring game)? Will we see two tight end sets, or did the injuries to Brandon Williams and Curtis White kill that idea? Will we see triple options or a read of the playside end or other things that we've seen small glimpses of? I have no idea, and LSU doesn't either, but the fact that we've seen glimpses of them all means that they are something LSU must prepare for. With that in mind, lets take a look at how the units match up.
Oregon's Offensive Line vs. LSU's Defensive Line:
This is, of course, the key matchup to the entire game. Oregon's questions at receiver don't matter if Oregon wins the battle at the line of scrimmage and James and Barner are bursting through giant holes. Oregon will be deep at offensive line this season, playing eight or perhaps even nine guys. Mark Asper, Carson York, and Darrion Weems are all experienced guys, and Ramsen Golpashin at right guard as well as reserve Nick Cody have also received a lot of game time. We should feel pretty good about all five of those guys, even if Golpashin's status as a former walk-on makes some fans uneasy. The biggest worries are redshirt freshman Hroniss Grasu starting at center, and Everett Benyard, Ryan Clanton, and Karrington Armstrong, who between them have just a couple of games of experience by Benyard before he got hurt last season. Those guys are going to have to grow up fast.
LSU returns one and a half starters, losing both of their starters at defensive tackle from last season. RE Sam Montgomery started five games last year, LE Barkeviouis Mingo started one, and Kendrick Adams, who started one game last season, figures to be the top reserve this season. Montgomery and Mingo are sophomores who figure to be improved this season. This crew combined for six sacks and eight tackles for loss last season which are solid, but not numbers that scare you.
While the ends come in with quite a bit of experience despite their youth, the same cannot be said at defensive tackle, where LSU loses both starters, including Drake Nevis, who was one of the top tackles in the SEC last season. Sophomore Michael Brockers, who started one game last season, starts at one tackle, while freshman Anthony "Freak" Johnson, the #2 defensive line recruit behind Jadeveon Clowney last season, starts at the other. Rounding out the rotation are junior Josh Downs, a journeyman-type player who was in the rotation last season but wasn't a major contributor, and sophomore Bennie Logan, who saw some spot duty last season.
I actually like this matchup for Oregon's offensive line. They are more experienced on the end, but Oregon will read one of those guys and largely keep him away from the play. The biggest challenge will probably be for Grasu to hold off the talented Johnson, but Johnson is still a true freshman while Grasu has a year in the system. LSU does not seem to have a Nick Fairley or a Cameron Jordan, who can dominate the line and tackle both guys on the zone read. Despite the question marks, Oregon's offensive line actually has the experience edge, and a chip on their shoulder after the NCG last season. I like Oregon's chances to at least hold their own at the LOS and, honestly, believe they have an excellent chance to outright win the battle in the trenches.
Oregon's offense vs. LSU's linebackers
Like the defensive line, LSU's linebacking corps lost their best player in MLB Kelvin Sheppard, a guy who had 116 tackles and four sacks last season, to be replaced by sophomore Kevin Minter, no doubt a talent, but a guy who mostly saw spot duty last season. Senior Ryan Baker returns at WILL, and he is a star with seven sacks and 87 tackles last season, and senior Stefoin Francois also returns at MIKE. Senior Karnell Hatcher also has starting experience, and will be their top backup. This is a very experienced group, despite losing their top player from last season. One thing that stood out to me is that they seem to blitz their linebackers a lot, with their starters combining for 12 sacks last season. Oregon will try their typical tactics to pull linebackers out of the box with bubble screens and with use of David Paulson at tight end. However, LSU will often run a nickel package, giving them better coverage on Paulson or on our trips sets. That said, a nickel package also favors run plays out of the inside zone read by taking more guys out of the box. Overall, its a talented group of linebackers, with Baker expecially a proven playmaker. I think the key to this group is to make some of those intermediate passing plays and force them into coverage, which I feel good about with David Paulson being our tight end.
Oregon's offense vs. LSU's secondary
This is the matchup I don't feel as optimistic about. I know the Tigers lost Patrick Peterson, but the guy who replaces him played a lot of nickelback for them and was a freshman All-American last season (Tyrann Mathieu). Mathieu had two picks and 4.5 sacks last season (though a corner blitz isn't a terribly effective way to counter the Oregon offense), and on the other corner is Morris Claiborne, who had five picks and was second team All-SEC. I'm not confident in the ability of Huff and Hoffman to make plays on the outside against such excellent cover corners. Brandon Taylor is a senior at SS, and while Craig Loston only starter two games as a freshman, he was the #1 recruit at his position in the country. Even the backups have a wealth of experience. This is a deep, talented group that has a clear advantage against our inexperienced receivers.
Conclusions:
The key to beating this LSU defense is to win the line of scrimmage. This is not a terribly deep or experienced defensive line, though they are talented. Oregon needs to do what they do--reel off some running plays, string together first downs, and wear these guys down in the second half. If Oregon can do this, I think its a close game going into halftime, after which Oregon exploits a worn down defensive line and puts the game away.
That said, if Oregon fails to control the LOS, and is forced to put the ball into the air, I don't like that at all. Its a deep, experienced secondary against a largely untested receiving corps. And while I think Oregon's defense is good enough (and LSU's offense bad enough) not to let them run away with the game, the way this thing gets out of hand is if the Ducks feel like they have to put the ball into the air because they can't get their run game going, and these guys start picking the ball off. Our offense is designed to exploit the most inexperienced part of their defense. If we do that, we win. If not, a win becomes a dicey proposition.
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I think a key to opening up the passing game is establishing the bubble screens and quick outs as a weapon. That means blocking, and I’m confident that our receiving corps is a better blocking unit then anything LSU has seen. Once we have the short passes established, then it becomes a matter of picking spots to pump-fake and go deep, which killed opponents last year. If our receivers can’t block OR get open, then we’re in some trouble.
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That will be key, but LSU plays so many defensive backs, I think a far more important key to the passing game will be forcing their secondary to respect the run, or force the LSU coaching staff to make adjustments and play the normal front 7. If LSU can play 5-6 defensive backs and still limit our running game, the Ducks will be in trouble.
As usual, our offensive philosophy will be dictated by what the defense does. If LSU stacks the box, we’re going to use quick outs and eventually throw downfield. If LSU tries to stop the run with just a front 7, and drops safeties a bit, then we’ll need to use our line to beat the front 7.
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Yup, I was actually thinking that LSU’s D line was more experienced after listening to many a “SEC gonna blow em up like Auburn did” but is seeing who they have coming back, like Dave said I don’t see a Fairley in that group.
I can see them trying to bring heat but DT’s getting DD like in his fakes and reads, with LMJ, Barner and Paulson as pure $ that should be enough to give a certain 6"5 some real open looks downfield.
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They are counting on Montgomery and Johnson...
to be the disruptive linemen. Montgomery apparently was very good up until the injury – a chop block in the Tennessee game. Anyway, I am personally more concerned with Adams and Edwards, the bigger DEs. They tend to be more problematic and Adams has skill speed as a former TE.
Also, with the new depth chart Downs is listed in front of Freak.
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That’s why I like the zone read instead of a position read.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Aug 31, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't fear the Tiger!
LSU has a good defense, but it absolutely is not the elite defense some in the media are portraying.
But, but, they were ranked no. 12 in total defense last year. JConant what have you been smoking!?!
Consider this… Throw out LSU’s 2010 cupcake games against Vanderbilt, McNeese St., and Louisiana Monroe, then look at LSU’s performance against good teams when they’re away or at a neutral site. Is that not a fair approximation of Saturday’s game against Oregon (good opponent, neutral site)? In those games, the Tigers gave up 408 yards of total offense (170 rushing; 238 passing) and 26.4 points. They were 3-2. The total offense rank for the teams they played in those games: no. 51, no. 82, no. 7, no. 9, no. 23. The losses were to no. 7 and no. 9.
What are the chances Oregon has a top-10 or even top-5 offense this year? Correct, almost a given. Like I said, LSU has a GOOD defense, but it’s not an elite defense. Oregon has an elite offense. I like our chances.
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by JConant on Aug 31, 2011 10:40 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Get your logic and stats out of here.
This is the ESS EEE SEE we’re talking about!
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by Duckfanatic10 on Aug 31, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Demz ESS EEE CEE boyz iz fast rut 'dere.
Whee gonna put a whoopin’ on y’all!
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by DuckUntilDeath on Aug 31, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Am I to surmise that you do judge your footballers to be large of body and swift of foot
and that thusly I should find concern to be my utmost emotion?
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by Duckfanatic10 on Aug 31, 2011 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Ewe tawk funnee.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Sep 2, 2011 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
LSU defense
Our defense declined as the year went on because we suffered two crippling injuries: Sam Montgomery and Brandon Taylor. Our safety play cratered without our best safety, and probably was the biggest factor in the Arkansas loss. Montgomery suffered a knee injury midseason, and he had established himself as our best lineman.
I’m not worried about Taylor, but how Montgomery’s surgically repaired knee holds up could very well be the key of the game. If he returns to form, we have that elite player. It’s a big if though.
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by Poseur on Aug 31, 2011 11:16 AM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
That Arky loss was freaky...
they got a weird long TD pass when two DBs collided and knocked each other out.
However, I think you’re getting an upgrade with Montgomery at end but your DT rotation is no where near the same.
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by DamienS on Aug 31, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
That secondary is the most concerning.
I know DT is smart and doesn’t turn the ball over, and I know our running backs can make things happen, but I just keep envisioning those talented corners making game changing plays, like ours did last year. I don’t think my heart is convinced the Ducks have reached that elite level, even though my mind knows it.
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In the picture above, Darion Weems is NINE THOUSAND POUNDS.
And LMJ is 122.
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A VERY FAT 122.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Aug 31, 2011 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Would you look at that 12% friggin lardass!
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Meanwhile...
Weems has a 122lbs undersized left leg.
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You guys HAVE to win this one
With LSU’s QB out, if they win, it’ll add 30 logs to the “SEC RULZ” hot air fire.
With the exception of the victory over Okie State, the Ducks haven’t won a big OoC game since the Dixon days. Another loss on the big stage will have Chip Kelly pegged with Tresselitis (symptoms: able to dominate conference, but not win the big national games, esp. versus SEC, thereby making own conference the butt of jokes)
As for the game, I think Oregon’s D might be just as big a story. Way underrated last year, and LSU’s offense shouldn’t be a major threat. Even if Ducks can’t find the end zone much, I doubt the Tigers will either.
This shouldn’t be very close. All the LSU suspensions mean the Tigers are crippled, and it’s your duty to put those cats down – for all of us.
We beat Utah!
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Pthththth!
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Sorry, Shu-man
Despite what Joe Giansante might think, Comcast Sports Net is not the big stage ;)
True that.
But Utah was actually ranked, and that game was aired on ESPN.
SO…….
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You know how it works
You can’t come out ahead playing a non-AQ conference team :-/
You either win (tread water) or lose (get mocked and ridiculed by all the other AQ teams for the rest of the year)
Maybe I am taking crazy pills , but does it seem like Darron Thomas is getting completely overlooked by a ton of people?
Based on all the chatter about the QB position, you would think Jarrett Lee was the better QB.
Nah, no crazy pills
He’s probably getting overlooked by a lot of people because of a few reasons:
1) Overshadowed by other recent/current Pac QBs like Andrew Luck and Jake Locker
2) Most recent national game had him throwing 2 INTs and some questioning if he cost the team the NC
3) Seems like a low-profile guy/no scandal related to him
Most recent national game had him throwing 2 INTs and some questioning if he cost the team the NC
I haven’t heard that second part at all. He was only a few yards shy of breaking the record for the most yards thrown in the NC game.
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My memory might just be hazy
I thought I read more than a few posts here implying that or asking that after the NC game
Maybe. I mean, 2 INTs isn’t a good thing, but they were early and didn’t really cost the game, especially considering the turnover margin was zill.
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I looked at the archives
Not finding anything about that, so my mind must be making up things :-x
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