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Quack Fix: Pac-12 will not expand, Oregon needs to become a road team

Well, that whole expansion thing was fun, wasn't it? On to the quack:

Got any other quack? Leave it below. Also, video of Chip Kelly's weekly press conference is after the jump. GO DUCKS!

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Honestly, I wanted the four refugees from the Big XII to join us

but to me, it was clear that should happen only if Texas would be willing to stop being so Texas-y, give up their LHN deal, and agree to equal revenue sharing. They don’t want to do that, for whatever reason, so I’ll say what I said a week ago: Texas can go fuck itself.

I do honestly feel a little bit bad for OU, OSU, and TT, though, since the dust has settled and everything is still pretty much exactly the same as it ever was.

"[Autzen Stadium's] steep concrete banks and closed ends turn a small but rabid crowd from WAC-sized cheering section into a horde of bees with megaphones capable of reaching 127 decibels of hatenoise." -Spencer Hall

by ProbablyMonty on Sep 21, 2011 7:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Thanks for posting my articles

A lot of effort goes into the Ducktales articles on Fishduck, so it means a lot that ATQ continues to be so supportive of our efforts.

by keeerrrttt1 on Sep 21, 2011 7:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Happy to do it! You guys have been really putting up some great content.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

That was a great read. Reminded me how special the 2007 team was

by westspec on Sep 21, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

as always keeerrrttt that was a fantastic read

that Dixon fake Statue play might be my favorite play of all time

Go Team! Score Six Goal Units!

by FromAutzenWithLove on Sep 21, 2011 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Learned something new today, thanks to Keeerrrttt...

I had the misfortune of missing the broadcast of the 2007 game at Michigan, so everything I know about the game comes from highlights. Something I did NOT know is that Johnson brought the hammer down BEFORE the game. That is some serious chutzpah.

Great job as always, Keeerrrttt.

by pete592 on Sep 21, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great article Kurt

I really enjoyed it. Keep up the great work!

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great article as always!

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

@gerrydinardo
Gerry DiNardo
Coaches Tape LSU D vs. Oregon O – Big time mismatch – Oregon had very little chance to move ball. LSU to much talent and great game plan

Why did we put up more yards then LSU & score 27pts despite 4 turnovers? Call me a homer but without the 4 turnovers it’s a lot closer game & we possibly win

by The Legend on Sep 21, 2011 7:47 AM PDT reply actions  

HOMER!

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

We’re allowed to have one!

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by Gorbachav5 on Sep 21, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I see what you are saying,

But the whole “without blah blah blah” argument seems pointless to me. Our offense was pretty thoroughly dominated in many aspects of the game (specifically the run game).

Without 4 turnovers and with 14 points we win. So?

Winter is coming, Sunshine.

by CaDuck on Sep 21, 2011 8:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

This couldn't be said better.
Without 4 turnovers and with 14 points we win. So?

All anybody outside of Duckworld is going to hear when we bang the “but four turnovers but but but” drum is excuses.

Turnovers are a part of the game. Whether or not they’re random, forced, or whatever, they’re still a part of the game. We did not win the LSU game, and at no point in the second half could anybody be fooled into thinking we were going to win the LSU game.

So let’s just move on from it.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 21, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah you’re right, I just got a little upset because of the whole big time mismatch thing when I don’t think it was. I just need to stop getting worked up when someone brings up that game.

by The Legend on Sep 21, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

It is ok to acknowledge that a pretty decent amount of football is luck

Oregon was able to move the ball pretty well, our defense wasn’t getting gashed each play. LSU forced 4 turnovers and that is why they won the game. Would LSU force 4 turnovers if we played again? Would our #1 and #2 RBs be out again? Probably not, it is ok to say we were soundly beaten and yet a fair amount of chance was involved to result in a score the way it was

by OregonNYC on Sep 21, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of hate

to be this picky, because I completely agree with your point, but with 14 more points we win regardless of the 4 turnovers since we lost by 13 with them.

by Tree&Duck on Sep 21, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think there's any doubt we would have won without the turnovers

LSU only had one drive longer than 41 yards. Their offense really didn’t move the ball against us all that well, but the turnovers meant they didn’t have to.

The results had very little to do with the talent or the game plan—it had to do with mistakes. We made a bunch, LSU didn’t.

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by CougarDuck on Sep 21, 2011 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck Texas

That is all!

"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"

by QuackinAK on Sep 21, 2011 7:54 AM PDT reply actions  

I see we've moved on from fBSU.

Good. Rec’d

If I wanted any lip from you, I'd unzip your pants.

by 071903 on Sep 21, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

FUT

doesn’t have the same ring to it.

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by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tis but a small reprieve

"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Sep 21, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Cliff starts this weekend

Or at least gets into the game very early and plays A LOT. We’re going to need him to help contain Criner.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 8:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Just

don’t bite on the double move.

by sacduxnutz on Sep 21, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

They don’t taste very good.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Double Stuffed on the other hand . . . .

mmmmmmmm

In fact I am a firm believer that Oreo’s come in two versions – Regular and half-stuffed.

by sacduxnutz on Sep 21, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love the flavored Oreos too

As a matter of fact I saw ‘Halloween Oreos’ at the store just the other day. They looked yummy and I thought about getting them until I realized they actually looked like “Oregon State Oreos” so I bought the pretty mint green ones instead.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh…these are hit and miss. The mint ones are fantastic. The “Raspberry Ice Cream” ones are an affront to both God and man.

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by Gorbachav5 on Sep 21, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the peanut butter ones.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, GET THIS:

They now have TRIPLE STUFFED oreos. Go ahead and wallow in that nirvana.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why this didn't happen 20 years ago I don't know.

"Ted, you're forcing me to be the voice of reason, and it's not a good look for me!" - Barney Stinson

by GustyJ on Sep 21, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

well obviously

the cookie to filling ratio is completely wrong.

by sacduxnutz on Sep 21, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

And a statin too

100 calories and 1.5 grams saturated fat.

In. one. cookie.

My parents believed in me.

by flyduckfly on Sep 21, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, like bacon isn't a tasty little death strip

To each his own slow suicide, I always say.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Chewy chips-ahoy + oregon cream filling + wrapped in bacon = genius!

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

and a coupon for bonerpillz?

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by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am a type 1 diabetic

and if I could pay 3 dollars for oreos, eat said oreos, and get free insulin I’d start doing fucking backflips.

by thuginator on Sep 21, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oreos are overrated!

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

i agree, I don’t like them at all … the cookie is dry and crumbly and the filing is just fat and sugar

by echo31 on Sep 21, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

The cookie is too dry, and after having a couple of them, I get very tired of their filling. It’s just too sugary.

If someone replaced the cookie with chewy chips a-hoy, and toned down the filling, then I think you’d have a delicious treat.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

yes, my cookies need to be soft and chewy

by echo31 on Sep 21, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Bah

I have no time for you cookie morons.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Can someone photoshop a duck into that spoon

and then make THAT the ATQ logo?

Journalism allows almost anyone to direct questions they would never ask of their own friends at random people. --Chuck Klosterman

by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Go for it.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im working on it

"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Sep 21, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m trying to get Axemen to put his skillz to work!

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe you can help me.

I have it saved to my desktop, but it’s not a URL. whats the next step?

"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Sep 21, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

go to tinypic.com and follow the upload/linking instructions from ehere

Journalism allows almost anyone to direct questions they would never ask of their own friends at random people. --Chuck Klosterman

by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

http://images.wikia.com/familyguy/images/5/55/Cookie_Monster.jpg

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whoops. My bad.

I didn’t follow what you meant.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

hurray

http://tinypic.com/r/v2tgrn/7

"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Sep 21, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

fail

"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

here you go

Journalism allows almost anyone to direct questions they would never ask of their own friends at random people. --Chuck Klosterman

by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

why didn't it work below?

"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Sep 21, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is so tiny!

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

I made a bigger one.

But it wont bring it up. It keeps showing up as that little square with the two triangles and a circle.

"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Sep 21, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

SHE DID NOT!

/stillbitter

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by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

ok

"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well done!

Now just add a little duck head or bill or webbed-foot sticking out of the wrapper.

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It didn't look good

I had to post the final at the bottom. It wouldn’t fit mid comments

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by PondJunky on Sep 21, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

1) Go to the top of the page.
2) On the right, look for a column headed by the words “Addicted to Quack”.
3) Click the “wide” button near the word “view”.
4) Enjoy your life, which is now immeasurably better than you ever would have dreamed.

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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 21, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks for trying

Final copy looks great!

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

"Last time I checked, there is no ‘Hall of Average.’ " Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Sep 21, 2011 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

How can they be overrated?

They are the all time classic! And, despite their perfect yumminess, they are not content to rest on their laurels but instead put out all kinds of amazing taste sensations to add to their legend.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

A good product can stand on its own - and that is not what Oreos do for me.

They require milk to consume.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

So wait

What about turkey and cranberry? Peanut butter and jelly? Aren’t you people who cook always going on and on about putting different things together to make them taste even better?

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Good products don’t require pairing or combinations, that doesn’t mean they can’t be paired or combined.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Would you eat 1 hot wing without a beer?

Do you have to dip your hot wing in the beer in order to enjoy it?

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I do not require a glass of milk

to eat one oreo. This sounds like user error to me.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

Although, icy cold milk on the verge of freezing, with an Oreo is the best.

by sacduxnutz on Sep 21, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

It is. But you have your own user errors to deal with too!

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

i do … those crumbly fuckers dry out my mouth

by echo31 on Sep 21, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t either, although I much prefer them with milk.

However, I can’t eat the regular ones without milk. I’ll, ummm, echo echo. Too dry. Doublestuff are fine by themselves.

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by Gorbachav5 on Sep 21, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

but a Duck’s quack doesn’t echo

by echo31 on Sep 21, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Tradition

eats turkey on Thanksgiving. Probably with cranberry.

My parents believed in me.

by flyduckfly on Sep 21, 2011 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you Daisy,

in fact I live fairly near where they bake them and I can smell them cooking…yum!

by MCD Mom on Sep 21, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would love to try a freshly baked oreo.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS?

Now with mustache guarantee!

by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 21, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Didn't we

‘TWSS’ enough yesterday? And the day before that? OH, and the day before that?

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

IT'S THE INTERNET

You’re surrounded by adolescent boys.

Now with mustache guarantee!

by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 21, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

TWHS

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

That Was Hot Stuff

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

How do you think we attack UA's offensive line?

If the Ducks can make Foles uncomfortable in the backfield in could be another 40’s to 10’s loss this week. But Oregon hasn’t really been able to get to the quarterback this season. Do you think it’s because of scheming with vanilla plays against lesser opponents or do you think it’s cause for concern?

I credit my urine for the victory.

by mackjones23 on Sep 21, 2011 8:53 AM PDT reply actions  

I think Zona

puts up monster yards on us but we win by 14

by sacduxnutz on Sep 21, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

My turn to play O/U

1100 total yards (both teams)

Now with mustache guarantee!

by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 21, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

30's to 10's rather

I credit my urine for the victory.

by mackjones23 on Sep 21, 2011 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is the week we find out about our D Line

While the looked good against LSU, the defense underperformed by many’s estimation against Nevada and MSU.

To hear the coaches and Moseley talk about it, it was because of the type of offense they were facing. Going against a passing attack will give them a chance to finally pass rush, instead of just holding up the O-Line for the LB’s to make plays.

If they get ripped up by UA’s pathetic run game, we’re in deep shit.

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by flyduckfly on Sep 21, 2011 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hm...

I don’t know if I agree with not expanding to Pac16 or not.

I see benefits of doing so but also some set backs. I think the conference as a whole would gain more east coast respect with Oklahoma, Texas and so on but if we are going to have to submit to Texas then I would rather not have them.

I think by Pac12 sending the message it will not expand some other conferences might pump their breaks as well on the expansion madness.

Thanks for quack. Go Ducks!

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Sep 21, 2011 9:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Why do we need east coast respect (if you think we don’t have it right now)? ESPN just helped give the Pac-12 the biggest contract in college sports.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

How the conference fares in one year is not an argument for or against conference expansion.

It’s the equivalent of saying, “Hey, it’s snowing outside. Global warming obviously does not exist.”

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

The stronger and larger the conference, less likely we win it

If we add Tx, OU +2 more decent teams that reduces the odds from 10% on average in the Pac10 to a 6% average chance in a PAC16.
More money is great, but a PAC16 also means a 40% reduction in RB trips for your average team used to PAC10 odds…

by OregonNYC on Sep 21, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

10% average? 6% average? 40%? You have funny math.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's that fancy New York math that we haven't been learned yet in the western frontier.

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by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see how you're figuring those numbers out... but that isn't how it works.

It’s like having a bag with balls in it, each representing a school. Right now, we have 12 in the bag.

Unfortunately, where your law of averages and your statistics ends up breaking down is that everything in the bag isn’t equal in size. Essentially, they don’t all have an equal opportunity to be grabbed. So the WSU has been this tiny ball that is in the bottom of the bag the last few years – it has a highly improbable chance of being grabbed.

The teams that wins the Pac-12, or the Pac-16, would more often end up being the teams with the biggest balls.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm saying exactly that.

Mathematically, the reason Chip has won the conference titles the last two years is because of his big balls.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yet despite Chip's big balls we are not the biggest ball in the bag in the PAC10 or 12

and even if we were, adding UT and OU’s considerable testicular weight to a PAC 16 would see us sink further.
UO is not USC, UT or OU, we’d be the 4th most powerful program in the PAC 16 rather than the second in the PAC12

by OregonNYC on Sep 21, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sink us further?!?

Where have we been in the Pac-10 standings the last few years? Can anyone remind me? Which national championship game did Texas get to last year? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

Who’s ball is bigger this year? Maybe Stanford? Maybe us? Does that mean Stanford will be grabbed? Not at all. They may have the highest probability, but it’s no guarantee.

This doesn’t change anything with adding Texas and Oklahoma. Sure, they’ll get to add their large balls to the bag – that doesn’t mean they’ll be the ones pulled. You can still get picked without being the biggest ball in the bag. It just will favor the biggest balls – and you’re buying Texas’ alibi of everything being bigger in their state.

Oklahoma has a big ball this year, and they’ll usually have a big ball – but they won’t always be the biggest ball nor will their ball be the one always grabbed.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ok, off the ball anology

it is just being realistic that adding teams, even teams that are lesser than us like OkState (ranked above us currently), will reduce our chances of winning the PAC.

fBSU wins their shitty conf every year because they have no competition. If they moved to the PAC we’d expect that to change dramatically, even though their team would be one of the best in the conf.

by OregonNYC on Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

You do realize, your argument is now based on having better competition, strengthening the conference, and having a better quality product.

Besides, football is so cyclical and erratic. Crazy will happen. Oregon won’t always be the top program in the conference, nor will they always lose – regardless of who else is added.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Better competition means less wins for UO. Maybe it sounds wimpy, but it is true

so, yes, I don’t want too large of a conference with too many good teams.
Of course we will win in a PAC16 or PAC20 or whatever, but we’ll win less. I don’t care if more people watch our games in Dallas, I only care if I and other Oregon fans watch. I also don’t care if we get a better media deal and more money, honestly. I just love football, love watching the Ducks, and prefer to see us win.

by OregonNYC on Sep 21, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

We aren't playing 15 teams.

Besides, we’ve beaten Texas, Oklahoma State, and Oklahoma the last time we’ve played them.

Just relax, man, and have faith that we’ll continue to improve.

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

jeez, haven't you noticed my stats focus of the day? Must be the excel spreadsheet work bleeding over into the football commenting. Not talkin talent gap here

We will be good for a long time. We will be good in the PAC10, 12 or 16. However, no matter how good we are, we will be conf champs much less in a PAC16 than PAC10.

by OregonNYC on Sep 21, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

so you're saying with more teams and better competition

there won’t be more championships for everyone? i’m shocked.

/whydoesn’teveryonegetthis

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by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

And that’s a bit of a fallacy.

We will be conference champions much less in ANY CONFERENCE, if we aren’t consistently putting the best team in the conference. The of number of teams becomes negligible. This isn’t a lottery.

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didn’t you say above though, that the best team in the conference doesn’t always win? So even if we continue to improve and remain the best team in the conference, the existence of more quality teams in the conference will mean less conference championships, unless we improve at a rate that to me seems unsustainable.

I’m not arguing for or against expansion, but I think you are discounting a bit too much the effects of adding more teams. And giving a little too much credit to any team’s ability to sustain improvement.

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by Gorbachav5 on Sep 21, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did say that. You are correct.

Adding great teams to the conference will make it more difficult. I’m not saying that isn’t true. I’m just saying it isn’t a lottery system where everyone has an equal chance, and the more you dilute it, the less likely it becomes.

It should go without saying, but you’ll improve your chances DRAMATICALLY by having the best team. If you have one of the worst teams in the conference, your chances becomes pretty meaningless – and it doesn’t matter if it is 8, 10, 12, 16, 20, or 120 teams in the conference.

Arizona has rarely ever been a top-tier program in the conference. In their best years, they end up about a mid-tier program. They have never won the conference.

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s just her pelican impression.

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

SCAR DAISY FOR LIFE

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by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Last one

Now with mustache guarantee!

by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 21, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Immersion Therapy

As a matter of fact that first fella in the line is looking pretty cute and cuddly to me.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

We're watching you

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by Matt Daddy on Sep 21, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ew

Urinal.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m so glad I’m not the only one that thought that.

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still get the giggles from this one.

Daisy will forever be a pigeon in my mind.

Now with mustache guarantee!

by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 21, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please,

She would never wear a red fanny pack.

by DuckUntilDeath on Sep 21, 2011 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or that it was only one part…

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

WHAT THE HELL IS ON HER FEET??

And actually I don’t even think that’s a woman – that has to be the world’s worst wig on his/her head. I feel confident that the pelican is attacking that person because he/she is such a fashion train wreck. I am perfectly safe from such a horrific fate.

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by daisyduck on Sep 22, 2011 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it's really sweet

the way that nice pelican is giving that little pigeon a ride.

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by daisyduck on Sep 21, 2011 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the pigeon also thought it was a urinal.

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Everybody remembers we are ducks, right?

Just checking. We’ve fucked with the school colors and uniforms, next year The Duck might end up with pelicanitis.

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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2011 12:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Unless of course you are FOX News...

…at which point that’s just good science!

I don't mean to impose...

by TheOcean on Sep 21, 2011 10:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cause our teams suck out of conference this year

And one of our top two teams lost to LSU by a good margin. We deserve 4th this year.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watching those 2003 michigan highlights

makes me miss Keith Jackson as the play by play announcer. I’ve grown up listening to him call the Washington State and Oregon games in the early 00s

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by FromAutzenWithLove on Sep 21, 2011 9:35 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Casey Matthews has been moved to WLB, I think it might actually be a better spot for him

by The Legend on Sep 21, 2011 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

"His ceiling is whatever he wants it to be," Oregon offensive coordinator Mark Helfrich said of Lyerla. "He’s got the hammer and the nails and the dry wall and whatever else you need to build a ceiling. Now he just need to just commit to doing it. You can see him some plays that he doesn’t finish or takes off, and that’s a young guy.

from here

Uhhh, wouldn’t a ceiling in this analogy be a bad thing?

by sacduxnutz on Sep 21, 2011 9:57 AM PDT reply actions  

With all the hammer nails and dry wall and whatever else you need, you can build it as high as you want!

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thought the exact same thing when watching that

“Why would anyone want to build themselves a talent ceiling?”

by OregonNYC on Sep 21, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

But never at Autzen Stadium.

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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Sep 21, 2011 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

We dont’ play every game in Autzen Stadium.

@ Arizona, it rains batteries and water bottles.

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well, if you don't have a talent ceiling

then you have the rain of suck landing on you all night long. Or something.

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by ProbablyMonty on Sep 21, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Funny with all the talk about Pac12

being afraid of losing our SoCal recruiting base and that’s why we turned Oklahoma down.
I am pretty sure the deal fell flat because of Texas and the LHN… not because of recruits going to new schools. The more I have seen from Texas fans the happier I am that they are not coming. At least for now.

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Sep 21, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

That’s some impressive spinning too.

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of spinning

your ATQ images (such as Jamesstation3) will be adorning the wall next to my desk.

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by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congratulations on getting a desk.

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

yea

It’s in his English classroom, Back right corner. He likes it when he gets visitors.

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by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

You shaddup. Free custom posters FTW

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by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

It looks like a Shufelt.

The experienced critic will notice the blurred elements suggesting movement, the surrealist references to people wihtin, made up of, or expressing the qualities of machines, the ethereal use of light, lightning, or lasers, and THE SHEAR FUCKING AWESOME THAT SHOOTS INTO YOUR EYES.

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by Bill Musgrave on Sep 22, 2011 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It is indeed an original Shufelt.

I’m trying to get it on that Pawn Stars show.

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by axemen23 on Sep 22, 2011 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey guys

Did a preview of the Oregon Arizona game. Let me know what you think.

It opens in a new window

I credit my urine for the victory.

by mackjones23 on Sep 21, 2011 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

So what happens if OU and OSU end up getting an invite to the SEC and accepting?

Its been starting to float around they may have an invite. Then that means we just lost out on one of our main cogs on expansion. ’

I think we should have taken OU to force texas either to concede to us or go independent. If they go Indi, then we simply take kansas and someone else. If we are heading to super conferences and OU is one of our targets might as well take them while we can.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

its tough though

the sec is in a much better position to deal. i think by staying where we are we are still a solid conference. i don’t see us getting split up in any way possible. the conferences that have been around since the early 1900s are still around and thriving. it’s the duct tape conferences like the big12 and the crappy big east that are in trouble.

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by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried about being split up. I'm worried about beign irrelevent

-we are already on the west coast so we have to face east coast bias, adding OU would help that.
-we are already viewed as the 4th/5th best football and basketball conference for the last few years.
-If the sec/acc continue to grow they will get better by bringing in big time schools. Who can we bring in?
-if they create a bigger divide athletically between us then basically we could turn into the equivalent of the big east in football (basically a conference everyone makes jokes about)
-yeah we have a great contract for now, but if we stay “stable” and at 12 while everyone else grows and gets stronger then what leverage do we have to get another monster contract.

I just don’t see many option as far as us expanding, and to me OU was a prime target.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here’s your leverage, LA, Denver, Seattle, SoCal, NoCal, all of Oregon, Extreme marketablitiy of programs like UO and USC. USC was a POWERHOUSE before the sanctions and there’s no reason that they can’t rise to that level again with all the home grown talent in that area.

Like I said in a post a couple down from here. Oregon will still play 12 games, USC will still play 12 games. If we add 17 more teams to the conference that’s 17 new hands in the pot for whatever big deal we get.

On a school by school basis the added money would barely be a drop in the pot of the $20 million a year we’re already going to get with the current contract.

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by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

TV contracts

are not based on recruiting. They’re based on how much advertizing you can get.

Seattle Population 563,374
Denver:598,707
Oregon: 3,825,657
LA: 9,862,049

That’s a lot of eyes and that’s not counting the national exposure or Arizona or Utah or a lot of washington. I think we’re doing just fine.

Adding Texas and Oklahoma would certianly boost those numbers but you still have to split the pie with more people.

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by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eyes in your home state are not everything when it comes to TV deals though. The Big East has teams from NY, Penn, Ohio, CT, NJ, Florida, by far the most potential eyes of any conf

but no one gives a crap about them bc they are seen as weak. SEC, other than Florida and ATL, represents a bunch of smaller redneck states that no one care for outside of football yet they dominate ratings and championships. ND sucks and is in freaking Indiana and is the largest name in CFB.

by OregonNYC on Sep 21, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then tell me

Why adding 4 teams would help Oregon at all? Would adding the teams make Oregon win more? Would adding those teams make Oregon more valuable?

From what you’re saying it doesn’t matter how many people are in your state (NY). If you’re a big name, and/or are good (ND) then the money will follow you regardless of your state (Indiana). So tell me how adding these 4 teams make Oregon any more viable on the National stage and how it wouldn’t push Oregon down in our own conference.

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by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would push us down. completely agree. I don't want to add 4 more teams, see my reason above

I want to win the PAC every year, and more teams means less championships for us. I think the PAC12 will be viable for the long term as it is or with the OK/TX schools.

by OregonNYC on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what I'm reading is u of O is scared of better competition...

Its funny how you don’t read the same worry from the USC fans… and you do realize you would probably only see them once every couple yars, and in championship games right? you would most likely end up in a pod with WA, WA st, and OR st… sounds like a pretty good start to a schedule to me.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s not what you’re reading at all. Maybe from some… but that’s definitely not the consensus.

What team are you a fan of, anyway?

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not scared, realistic. Our last 2 Conf Championships were iced in the Civil War against OSU

if instead, we had to go to OU or UT or OkSt to win the conf, we’d win less. I like to win more, not win less.

by OregonNYC on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

What if they had to come to Autzen?

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm a PAC fan period

Last year I cheered for the ducks cuz they had the best shot to bring a championship to the PAC. This year since they lost Im routing for Stanford since they have the best chance.

I just want whatever will strengthen the PAC period. Plus if it means more entertaining games in conference play, and more accolades to teh conference thats what I want.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am a Michael Bolton fan, I am…I celebrate the man’s entire catalog.

by keeerrrttt1 on Sep 21, 2011 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

NOW BACK TO THE GOOD PART!

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd

for Lonely Island reference.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Routing for Stanford? Use Google Maps, no one uses MapQuest anymore.

by echo31 on Sep 21, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Google Maps is the best

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

DOUBLE TRUE!

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by Takimoto on Sep 21, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

it probably helps when they have every resource

many of which oregon don’t have. with texas and oklahoma it means less championships for everyone, meaning most likely oregon teams, washington, other bay areas are also winning less.
besides usc fans think they’re gods gift to the pac12

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by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for taking the opinion of one poster and assuming everyone on AtQ believes the same thing.

by DuckUntilDeath on Sep 21, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Pac-12 will continue to be one of the 3 premier college football conferences in football. If expansion happens, the only serious conferences will be SEC, Pac-12, and B1G, and that’s it. As far as the east coast bias goes, the Pac-12 has (and will continue to have) the most lucrative per team TV contract around. Even if the SEC expands and gets a new deal, per team it won’t be significantly more than any other conference, and the Pac-12 still gets to monetize the Pac-12 network.

This talk of getting passed up is totally ridiculous. There is really no danger of becoming irrelevant in college football. Basketball is another story, but that doesn’t matter as much because of the tournament, and the smaller amount of money involved.

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I hate to tell yo uthis, but we aren't one of the top 3 conferences in football right now.

The ACC is stronger right now, and they are getting bigger.

If everyone else grows and we stay where we are at we will be 4th best. Which maens anytime there are 4 undefeated or 4 1 loss teams we will always get skipped over

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

This.

If I wanted any lip from you, I'd unzip your pants.

by 071903 on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yea

Now you’re just taking the crazy a little too far.

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by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ACC is stronger? By what bizarre metric are you using or basing this on?

Name one. Seriously. Just one!

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are correct, with all teh ACC talk I forgot which conference

Right now Big 12, SEC, and Big 10 are all stronger so we are 4th right now no tthird

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the Big 12 falls apart, we’ll be 3rd at the very least.

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah!!!!

I love trying to be in 3rd place!!!

by KitIsh on Sep 21, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

WE’RE NUMBER 3!
WE’RE NUMBER 3!
WE’RE NUMBER 3!

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

IN THE IMAGINARY POLL THAT DETERMINES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
IN THE IMAGINARY POLL THAT DETERMINES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
IN THE IMAGINARY POLL THAT DETERMINES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

The cadence of that chant needs some work.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 21, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ACC is stronger right now, and they are getting bigger.

rec’d for sarcasm.

It was sarcasm wasn’t it? Cause you can’t be serious!

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by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

and with tv deals

the pac-12 is going to get much better in the next four years. with all teams operating in the black you’re about to see some serious shit

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by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

College football is boned.

The SEC will be an even more obnoxious center of the universe than it already is.

We’ll be a mid-level conference – solid and stable, but not that close to the level of the bigger guys (SEC and, if they want, Big Ten).

And we’ll be doomed to the BCS in pretty much it’s current form forever, with a tweak to allow more than 2 teams from the SEC (and the Big Ten, if they expand too).

by omb on Sep 21, 2011 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

PANIC!

Now with mustache guarantee!

by HoodRiverDuck on Sep 21, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Personally

I would rather have the 12 teams we have and have that much better of a chance to get to a major bowl game or god willing a playoff, than have to compete with 15 teams to the same ends.

The Pac-12 is not going to get less exposure because there are fewer teams. I don’t understand why people are so up in a tizzy about this. Our conference could have 32 teams for all I care, Oregon is still going to play 12 regular season games, USC is still going to play 12 regular season games, UofO will still get national tv showings as long as we stay relevant. We still have 100% control over the Denver, LA, SoCal, NoCal, Seattle, Oregon markets.

Adding 4 teams will not significantly impact the 3 BILLION dollar deal we already negotiated.

TRUE the deal would be bigger, TRUE the numbers they flash of a 3.5 Billion dollar deal would make eyes pop. But where is the extra 500million go? to the 4 schools that joined us and the $20 Million we’re going to make each year would become $20.01 Million a year. It’s not worth it and it’s not as big a deal as everyone is making it out to be.

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by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

lets look at it using a real example then.

your 1 loss ducks team this year has NO chance of making the title game. The conference is viewed as weak so they won’t get in with a loss. now a 1 loss SEC/Big12 team could go, shoot BSU undefeated goes before a 1 loss PAC team. However, if you had a stronger conference and teams like UT/OU/OSU in the conference then you would be closer to teh SEC and make it in even with a loss. That disparity will become even greater. Remember last year when people were worried about a 1 loss SEC team getting in before an undefeated PAC team. If we let the disparity grow to much we will be no better than undefeated TCU or Boise state not getting invited cuz of our schedule strength. You may not believe it could happen, but its already how we are viewed.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about

Pac-12 teams start winning OOC games. Then we suddenly will be viewed as one of the top conferences again. The reason the Pac-12 is viewed as weak is because we are weak. USC is not the power it was but that will change, When Dennis “keeps failing” Erickson and the Wiesel get ousted I expect those programs to get better.

It wasn’t a couple of years ago when the Pac-10 was viewed on par and better by some than the SEC. That happened because we went 6-0 or 5-1 in bowl games. Public opinion is formed by the actions of the teams, right now the action taken by everyone is failure. Change that and you’ll change public perception.

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by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever. Get realistic, here brotha.

Any one less big-12 team has just as much chance as a 1 loss Oregon team – maybe less.

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. What will happen when they all lose a game? THEY’LL DROP IN RANKINGS JUST LIKE OREGON DID OMG OMG OMG!

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by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

And a 1-loss Oregon team that lost in early September

is going to be ranked higher in November than a 1-loss Big12 team that lost in November, because that’s just the way it happens.

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by benzduck on Sep 21, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Holy crap, we are 3 games into the season. As I said above, how one season goes does not determine expansion.

If you are talking about expansion due to what has happened in 3 games this year, you really shouldn’t be talking about expansion at all.

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by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Im not talking about right now

Im talking about in the future if the other conferences get way bigger and stronger. If we can only manage 2-3 teams in teh top 25 cuz the rest of it is dominated by the SEC/ACC/Big10 then we will be looked at as a weaker conference, always.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, syracues and pitt

i’m scared shitless of them being new additions ot the acc and being powers nationally

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by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess I have dreams of competing with teh SEC, not being happy with 3rd/4th best on the pecking order

With OU/OSU and two other strong schools we would finally start being able to compete nationally to get teh same respect as the SEC. I guess I would rather shoot for than then being happy that we are always considered 3rd/4th best conference in the country

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Respect is earned, not given.

Win your games and the respect will come. Go 0-everything in major OOC play and the respect will never come.

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by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

respect is given in Pre season polls and perception

Its the reason SEC gets respect without having to play anyone if they don’t want to. They play like 3 strong non conference games the entire year as a conference.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

or the fact they play each other

and they are actually good teams and have won the last five nat’l titles

www.searchingforakilismith.com

by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not denying they aren't good teams

But because of the perception they are that good of a conference they don’t have to play anyone out of conference. Unless we add stronger teams to reach for that same stature we will always have to try to play whoever we can out of conference. I would rather be looked at before the season as the dominate conference then always having to be questioned every year.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

lsu played oregon and are playing west virginia, georgia played boise, alabama played vatech two years ago. why do they need to play out of conference when they play great teams every week? it’s not like we don’t know how good they are, we see them every week and they are clearly on another level.

www.searchingforakilismith.com

by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

O thats cute, i saw wha tyou did there, and even going back into pas tyears to get examples...

Well lets look at just this year and look at the rest of their conference, adn tell me if we would ever get away with being ranked after these non conference opponents:

Arkansas: Missouri st, new mexico, troy
Florida; Florida atlantic, uab, furman
Kentucky: western kentucky, central mich, louisville
Ol miss; Byu, southern ill, lousiana tech
Miss st: memphis, lousiana tech, tenn-martin
tenn: montana, cinci, middle tenn.

Wow it would be nice if we could be respected when playing those non conference games.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except of those only Arky and Florida are ranked

Sure Miss. St was ranked.. and then they lost.

If UCLA beat Houston and Texas they’d be ranked.
If ASU beat Illinois they’d still be ranked.
If Washington beat Nebraska they’d be ranked.
If Utah beat USC they’d be ranked.
If Wazzu beat San Diego St. they possibly might be ranked but doubtful.
If OSU beat… hahaha I still laugh at OSU.

This is why the Pac is looked down upon. Utah, Stanford, USC and Cal are the only teams to have taken care of their OOC games so far. The Pac isn’t getting it done. Blame goes all around.

by INducktrination on Sep 21, 2011 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

or we could also pull up some pac12 schedules

and big ten, and show that it doesnt matter and every team does it.

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by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

the difference between those teams

is that florida, tennessee, and arkansas have won national titles and play in the confernece championship game on a regular basis

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by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would rather be looked at before the season as the dominate conference then always having to be questioned every year.

Wow, what unique desire. If only everyone else thought this.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

and my point is if we do nothing we will never have a shot of getting out from that.

but hey you don’t have to agree with me its just my opinion. And how i feel about the situation.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

And again I say Win.

We don’t need more teams we need the teams we have to be quality teams and win their OOC games. The whole expandageddon thing is way way overblown.

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by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is an admirable goal, but there are many other items that need to be weighed. Like money and conference stability. Having a strong conference isn’t going to mean shit if everyone is looking to bolt at the next opportunity.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Win five national championships and we will be.

The SEC hasn’t always been perceived as the best conference. They earned it.

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Huh?

Means NOTHING if you don’t win games. Period.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Sep 21, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

competing with the sec is not solved with adding two teams

it’s solved with all the teams being better top to bottom. have arguably the six best coaches in the country, and schools that spend millions upon millions upon millions on the programs.
i guess i got confused thinking that we were just rying to stay relevant since you seemed so worried about the acc and big10.
ou hasn’t won a national championship in 10 years, and okie state hasn’t won any. it’s just adding numbers, although oklahoma is a get.

www.searchingforakilismith.com

by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

and osu hasn’t been there but for a few weeks. and you realize oklahoma state hasn’t even made it to a big12 title game right? when we’re talking about the sec we’re talking about georgia, florida, lsu, auburn, alabama. you know. schools that win titles. no ones arguing that oklahoma should’t be let in, they’d improve the conference. but to bring in okie state because they’re good at this exact moment in time to strengthen the conference is shortsighted.

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by jcgoducks on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'll ask one question

How does this help Oregon? Will we win more games? Will we get more recognition because we’re in a conference with those teams? On a team by team basis nothing is going to change, no matter where schools end up conference wise.

Texas is still going to win and be arrogant, Alabama is still going to have great defenses. Oregon is still going to get National exposure. Notre Dame will contenue to be the cesspool of shit they have been for the last 20 years. Alignment means nothing for respect or standings. It’s all about $$ and the increase in $$ is negligible by adding the 4 proposed teams.

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by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

To me it helps because if your conference is stronge ryou can actually lose a game and still make the title game.

Unlike now which if you lose a game you have to have an amazing amoutn of dominos fall your way to even be back in the talk.

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

As many other posters above have pointed out, it also adds extra competition which makes your chances of getting through the season unscathed or with one loss that much more slim.

I think it’s about a wash either way. If the other teams expand to 16 teams and we get a plus-one, the Pac-12 will actually be in the best position possible.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Dude, of course you’re talking about right now. Because your comments have no recollection of the past few years. The Pac-10 has continually been in the top 3 conferences the last decade, and will continue to be that way no matter what happens. Sometimes they’ll have a down year and be 4th (if the Big 12 continues to exist), sometimes they’ll be better and compete on the whole with the SEC.

What is happening this year is not the norm. Conference strength is cyclical, and expansion will not change that.

Again, the Pac-12 will continue to be one of the top 3 (assuming the Big 12 implodes) conferences in the land, even if they don’t expand. Oregon will continue to compete nationally and have a good a shot at the BCS as they have now. What else do you want?

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

OU doesn't want to go to the SEC.

It seems to be accepted that if OU wanted to go to the SEC, they would already be in the SEC, from what I’ve read anyway.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Sep 21, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep, people need to chill out. The Big 12 will survive with a bit of duct tape for now. The SEC is being smart and taking only teams it wants to. The Pac-12 and B1G are being smart and doing the same. Shockingly, those are the only stable conferences in college football.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

There is one commissioner I can think of that is acting very frantic, and everyone is trying his conference.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

OT: Anyone know about this program?

http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/

You can download the stand alone version to use at home/work. You select any image and the program tiles the image into a large (or extremely large) image using letter sized sheets of paper. There are examples of entire walls and hallways.

I’m doing a “space” theme for my kid’s birthday party, but you could create a huge panorama of Autzen or any other Duck related madness!

I’m headed into the office to use their color toner….not mine.

My parents believed in me.

by flyduckfly on Sep 21, 2011 12:32 PM PDT reply actions  

I’ve used that before. I helped CGB make a ton of signs for when college gameday basketball went to Cal.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I used it to make a

5 ft x 6 ft Puddles/The Duck. Works OK. You need to play with the settings so that you get a decent resolution picture. Lots of scotch tape as well.

by sacduxnutz on Sep 21, 2011 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

/SHUFELT BEACON

in order for me to put the jamesstation 3 on the poster, Walmart needs you to email me something official-looking giving me permission to use your image. Can you please do so? I’ll bring you some food to the next tailgate or something. I also figure you’ll have this page open at work instead of your email, so mods, please don’t delete this post.

Journalism allows almost anyone to direct questions they would never ask of their own friends at random people. --Chuck Klosterman

by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Send me an email. :-p

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey, shufelt beacon is fast!

Journalism allows almost anyone to direct questions they would never ask of their own friends at random people. --Chuck Klosterman

by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It’s because I first thought you said “Bacon”

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you watched “Pulp Fiction” yet?

by DuckUntilDeath on Sep 21, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Regardless whether I agree with most the people here or not, there is one thign I am taking away from this whole thing...

I am glad we have scott as our commish, he has shown to not only hold the interests of the universities but he is set on being fair and sticking to his guns. You got to respect him for that. I feel lucky we have him. I mean shoot we could have Beebe (cringes)

by Kazper on Sep 21, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Or

Tom Hansen could still be in power…

Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**

by Neil Vincent Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

The thought of that is scarier than anything anyone could ever post on ATQ

Journalism allows almost anyone to direct questions they would never ask of their own friends at random people. --Chuck Klosterman

by axemen23 on Sep 21, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Fire Chip Kelly

HIRE RICK NEUHEISEL!

Quack Quack Bitches!

by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

FIRE QUACK ADDICT!!

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just sayin'

There are worse things in life

Quack Quack Bitches!

by Quack Addict on Sep 21, 2011 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like this?

"Ted, you're forcing me to be the voice of reason, and it's not a good look for me!" - Barney Stinson

by GustyJ on Sep 21, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

It burns!

I credit my urine for the victory.

by mackjones23 on Sep 21, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

YUCK

Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**

by Neil Vincent Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

FIRE AXEMEN!

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just saying..

Attractive, Intelligent, Smart A**

by Neil Vincent Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am a Coug

and I rec’d this

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by Neil Vincent Roberts on Sep 21, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s art right there.

by JonathanPDX on Sep 21, 2011 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

bachman leaving the fishwrap for the WSJ

Link

"Ted, you're forcing me to be the voice of reason, and it's not a good look for me!" - Barney Stinson

by GustyJ on Sep 21, 2011 3:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Where’s that sad Canzano image?

by JonathanPDX on Sep 21, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Larry Scott's response to the Oklahoma spin...
“I have nothing but respect for the leadership of the University of Oklahoma,” he said. “I don’t want to contradict anything that they feel they need to say as part of the process they are in.”

Link

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Sep 21, 2011 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Funny how he didn’t say “respect for the leadership of the Universities of Oklahoma and Texas”

"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian

by Matt Daddy on Sep 21, 2011 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

From the people who brought you, "Fuck Clemson!"

Enjoy a refreshing, “Fuck Texas!” Wherever fine beverages are sold!

by DuckUntilDeath on Sep 22, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Told you so

Texas doesn’t bow to commoners. You dodged a Bevo-sized bullet twice now, I wouldn’t recommend you try it again.

by Gaknar on Sep 21, 2011 9:11 PM PDT reply actions  

We’ll take the bullet when the bullet is of equal size as everyone else’s bullet.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 21, 2011 9:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just cause you're used to taking the bullet over and over again

Doesn’t mean we need to.

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Sep 21, 2011 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 22, 2011 7:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’d need a really big gun for that.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 22, 2011 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

You know. I never laughed at that scene.

But that is an hilarious still.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Sep 22, 2011 9:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Sep 22, 2011 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

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