ROSE BOWL 2012: 5 Things You May Not Know About Wisconsin
As part of our blog bet, Hilary of Off Tackle Empire and I wrote a piece for each other's sites entitles 5 things you may not know about....... You can view my submission at OTE, Hilary's submission is here.
1. The Special teams is... special. Perhaps Wisconsin's greatest weakness heading into the Rose Bowl is the performance of the Special Teams. It's been a theme all season. Drops, kicks returned for seriously long yardage, poor kick coverage. Really, you name it, the Badgers have done it. It's been covered up during the year largely thanks to the dominant nature of Wisconsin's offense, but in close games (see: Michigan State during the regular season) it has made all the difference. If Oregon can own special teams, Wisconsin might be in trouble.
2. Montee Ball Isn't Our Only Rush Threat... Most of the spotlight for Wisconsin's offense has been on Montee Ball. And of course it should be. He was nominated for the Heisman and has a real shot at breaking the TD record with his performance in the Rose Bowl. But, last year Ball was a #2/3 back behind John Clay along with James White. This year, White has been less effective than before, with only 600 some yards on the season and six touchdowns. But, that's still more yards than the primary backs of some teams in the Big Ten (Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern....). White is less important as a scoring threat on his own than as a guy who can take some snaps while Ball rests his legs. You think Ball is dangerous to begin the game? Just wait until the fourth quarter rolls around and your D-Line is exhausted while Ball is coming off the sidelines after a nice long rest.
3. The Only Way to Beat Russell Wilson is to Keep Him in the Pocket... By now you probably know that Russell Wilson is a pretty decent quarterback. Wisconsin isn't Stanford -- he's not our entire offense like Luck is for the Cardinal -- but he's definitely a threat. Until Montee Ball really took off, Wilson was our main Heisman contender. Even though the focus shifted to Ball, Wilson has got some pretty decent numbers on the season -- a 72% completion percentage, 2,800 yards, 31 touchdowns to 3 interceptions... Everything that should make a Ducks fan nervous. The thing is, Russell Wilson is only truly effective when our coordinator is calling play actions and roll outs. Our pass protection has been iffy at best during the season, but Wilson's mobility buys him extra time to hit our receivers when he's given the opportunity. If, however, Chryst turns to long drops and fixed passing plays, Wilson and the Badgers are vulnerable in more ways than just the sack. Early in the season, Wilson had a problem with intentional grounding penalties. When he was kept in the pocket too long and faced intensive pressure, he tended to make poor decisions concerning throws while still in the tackle box. It doesn't sound like that big of a deal, but it's a significant penalty and has even given Wisconsin's opponents a safety on occasion.
4. Wisconsin is Best When in the Red Zone... The Badgers have one of the leading red zone scoring attacks on the season, and Ducks fans should get nervous if the Badgers are ever in vicinity of the end zone. On the season, Bucky has a 96% red zone scoring rate (67/70 tries) including field goals and touchdowns. But it's not as though the Badgers are just really awesome at scoring three -- if you take out field goals, the Badgers still have an 87% scoring rate in the red zone (61/70). If Oregon is going to beat Wisconsin, they can't wait for stops to come inside the 20 yard line.
5. We Suck in the Second Quarter... But So Do You... Wisconsin has been relatively consistent with the way games have gone throughout the season. We tend to burst out and put up a ton of points in the first quarter, while holding opponents down. Purely by the numbers, during the course of the season Wisconsin has scored 149 points in the first quarter to opponents 38. In the third quarter, the numbers are similar -- 143 Badger points to 35 points for opponents. In the fourth quarter, the numbers decline a bit, partly due to Wisconsin taking its foot off the gas in certain games -- only 112 Badger points to 50 opponent points.
But the second quarter. Oh the second quarter.
By far the point in time in the game when offenses score the most points on the Badgers is the second quarter. 96 points have been scored on Bucky during that 15 minutes -- 3x more than in the first or third quarters, and nearly two times as many as in the final frame of the game. Why this is the case is a mystery to me. The weird thing is that Wisconsin also scores a lot in the second quarter -- 176 points on the season. It's not nearly as lopsided as with our defensive stats, but there's still a noticeable difference. So what's this mean for the game? Well, if there's going to be a momentum change, it's probably going to occur during the second quarter. If the game is a blowout by halftime, it might already be over...
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I think if Huff was healthy all year & if DAT played a little more & Hoffman & Murphy didn’t play at all we’d be better then 2nd worst. I can’t wait for next year the WRs will be a lot better but that should be easy to do with how bad they’ve been this year
The Legend
I still don't thing we'd be noticeably improved
But we’d be marginally better
by jcgoducks on Jan 1, 2012 9:03 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
he’s not our entire offense like Luck is for the Cardinal
This is so wrong. Stanford’s offense works so well because of how good their running game is. Luck destroys teams using playaction. Stanford had the #20 rush offense, averaging 207.92 yards per game.
I'd disagree with that point.
He’s the best player on the team but he’s not the focus of the offense. The greatest mystery this year was them running the wildcat. Why would you ever take the ball away from one of the best players in college football.
by jcgoducks on Jan 1, 2012 9:05 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
This was my point. When she says above that Andrew Luck was Stanford’s entire offense means she didn’t watch any Stanford games all year. Beating Stanford that last 2 years was only possible because we held their running backs to well below their average, and thus took away the play action pass, and when we lost to them in 2009, it was because we couldn’t stop Toby Gerhart.
I didn't mean I disagreed with you.
I disagreed with the point you quoted from the article.
by jcgoducks on Jan 1, 2012 9:59 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
i watched
Stanford play Arizona and USC. But that’s about it. I probably shouldn’t have phrased my point that way though. What I was trying to say was that Wilson isn’t the guy who is going to beat you. He’s good, but Wisconsin only wins if Ball is effective. Whereas, at least to me, Luck is the guy that beats you if you lose to Stanford.
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by Hilary Lee on Jan 1, 2012 1:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I won't overdo the point here...
but Stanford does have two all american olinemen, a multiple year 1,000 yard rusher, a fleet of TEs and a fullback, and very underrated defense behind him.
I think Stanford is going to surprise Okie State. I wouldn’t want to play Stanford with a month to prepare. With a week to prepare we destroyed them. However, give smart guys like Luck time to prepare and he’ll pick apart your tendencies.
"I love Oregon's obsolete recruiting report on an unhealthy level. Just more proof how balla Chip Kelly really is." Dr. Saturday
Stanford is a "muddled middle" team without Luck.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 1, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
I disagree. They would not be top 5
but would still be capable of top 20 status. I think people are going to be surprised at how good Nottingham will become, a four star recruit that played at Locke’s high school. They have a stable of highly recruited runningbacks and their tradition on the oline looks to continue. They may have the most enviable oline class in the conference right now, especially when you consider that they probably land Murphy.
They have an identity that isn’t all about Luck. I think without Luck they lose to ND or Cal but still only have 2 losses. The only teams that moved the ball on Stanford were Oregon and USC. Stanford gave a paltry 14 points per game outside USC and Oregon.
"I love Oregon's obsolete recruiting report on an unhealthy level. Just more proof how balla Chip Kelly really is." Dr. Saturday
And I riposte.
I think peoples eyes will be opened wide as to how much the Tree relied on Luck. They are otherwise the definition of “average.” Their biggest threats were 3 slow tight ends whose hands would turn to stone at inopportune times, and a WR who was just OK even when he wasn’t getting knocked out of games with concussions.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 2, 2012 10:10 AM PST up reply actions
Good article you posted over there,
what the heck is with the lack of participation? I guess I am ATQ spoiled!
You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles.
its usually more active
I can’t explain it either
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by Hilary Lee on Jan 1, 2012 1:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
If the team has half the mojo of MCD Mom, victory is ours.
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by Bill Musgrave on Jan 1, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions
ahhhh panic
That’s all. Just panic.
by builds character on Jan 1, 2012 11:56 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
STUPID NFL
The Rose Bowl should be on January 1, dammit.
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by daisyduck on Jan 1, 2012 11:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Don't blame the NFL
I learned while down here that the Rose is never played on Sunday not because of the NFL (the restriction long predates the influence of the Nfl on sports in America) but because of the Rose Parade: its primary route goes down streets with lots of churches, and the churches didn’t want the streets closed on Sunday, for obvious reasons. This of course doesn’t explain why the others aren’t played on Sunday, either, but the Rose is the granddaddy after all. Apples don’t fall far from the tree, right?
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That's a convuluted way to avoid blaming the NFL.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 2, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
Can't wait for this.
I almost want this game to be like the Baylor/UW game but at the same time I don’t want it coming down to the team with the ball last either. I don’t think it’ll be a high scoring game, but who knows. I’m interested in seeing how LMJ performs in his last game at UO an. I also really wanna see DT run more like he’s done in the past to get the pressure off of LMJ/Barner/D-Thomas…
That’s my thoughts…I like using ellipses…
I don't always derp, but when I derp I herp.
Since the Ducks are sporting new custom threads...
by win_the_day on Jan 1, 2012 6:47 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Can you get me one of those in a XXL by game time?
Seriously, I’d pay a pretty penny for one. Maybe even a shiny dime.
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Thanks guys!
I barely got 3 hours of sleep last night. Benz I would have totally made you one, unfortunately I only made 4:-( I’m sitting in the Wisconsin corner, so you’ll see a small pop of yellow, that’s me. Hope to see some of you guys out there today!
GO DUCKS!
I woke up bright eyed and bushy tailed at 3 am...
I did go to bed at 9 pm though.
"I love Oregon's obsolete recruiting report on an unhealthy level. Just more proof how balla Chip Kelly really is." Dr. Saturday
17 hours
Tomorrow I am going to get up, go for a run, and then come home and make french toast and BACON. Why? Because BACON will portend greatness for the Ducks tomorrow, because BACON is just that freaking awesome.
And I’ve gone through my entire wardrobe an elimnated from consideration anything that I’ve previously worn when they have lost so my wardrobe will be as pure as driven snow.
We’re drinking TD at the watch party, because TD is the Official Beer of the Oregon Ducks, or if it’s not it should be.
My stomach is in knots. Don’t know how much sleep I’ll get tonight.
GO DUCKS.
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DAMN!!!!!
Less than 28 hours away…….
Go Ducks!
The last time I was in Camp Randall Stadium was 1987. The Badgers were in their ‘we suck shit’ period and were blown out by Michigan.
It took awhile, but W improved. Actually, they were always the team I measured Oregon with – both came out of their funks at about the same time and both have been world beaters ever since.
2012 will be the year CK and the Ducks exorcize those Post Season Demons. Go Ducks! Bury the Badgers!!!!!!!!!!
Not sure how I'll get to sleep tonight
knowing what tomorrow will bring.
Good night ATQ.
And may God speed.
My parents believed in me.
Best Place to watch the game in PDX?
Made it up to PDX for the Mt. Hood Meadows NYE bash. Now I need a place to watch the game. I don’t want to watch this thread all night, so hit me up on twitter- @l3db3tt3r It will go to my phone.
THANK YOU!
I had to wait a day longer than most of you...
All the way from South Korea, I’ll be watching at 7am on Tuesday, January 3rd.
8 hours and counting down…
"We coach a vision, we prepare for a vision, and we compete against a vision." -Chip Kelly 9/12/10

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