MBB Game 17 Preview and Open Thread: Oregon Ducks at Arizona State Sun Devils
by David Piper on Jan 12, 2012 3:08 PM PST
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Oregon Ducks (11-5, 2-2) at Arizona State Sun Devils (5-10, 1-2)
7:30 PT, Wells Fargo Arena
TV: FSN National
KenPom Rankings: Oregon (112), ASU (164)
Pomeroy Projection: Oregon 68, ASU 67
After a split at home against the Bay Area schools, the Ducks go back on the road to the desert, tonight taking on Arizona State. The Sun Devils are a mess in every sense of the word. Their best player, Keala King, is no longer on the team. They are lousy on both ends of the floor. And, as is Herb Sendek's MO, they are the most boring team in the conference, ranking 284th in the nation in tempo. But the real stat that jumps out at you is turnover percentage. If you've read my basketball stuff, I've harped incessantly on Oregon's turnover percentage. The Ducks turn it over on about 20% of their possessions, ranking 151st in the nation. Its way too many. Well, Arizona State turns it over on 26% of their possessions, a whopping 336th in the nation. Keep in mind the pace, ASU isn't being sloppy in an attempt to run, they do it while having one of the slowest paces in all of college hoops.
In spite of the turnovers, the Sun Devils do enough good things on offense to keep them in the top 150 in efficiency, in that they shoot the ball well and draw fouls. It will be interesting to see what the offense does without their point guard in King, but they still have a few nice players. Guard Trent Lockett averages 14 a game and has a really nice shot from all distances (in addition to 6.7 rebounds per game). Carrick Felix is a combo player that can also hit from anywhere. Kyle Cain is a low post scorer. And Jonathan Gilling is an intriguing freshman who hasn't had a lot of play, but went off for five threes in their last game. That said, they are still a very turnover prone team without a point guard.
Defensively, ASU is a worse mess than they are offensively. We know that a Herb Sendek team will sit back in a zone, but they don't do it well. Ranking 210th in defensive efficiency, Arizona State doesn't force turnovers, lets the opponent shoot a lot of wide open threes, and foul a lot. While I'm sure ASU will have matchup based adjustments for Oregon, I expect to see a lot of open outside shots for Singler, Sim, and Joseph. and for the Ducks to go to the free throw line a lot. In other words, all the elements for a comfortable Duck win.
FOUR FACTORS PREVIEW:
eFG%: ASU 52.6 (54), Oregon 51.2 (93)
If they don't turn it over, the Sun Devils shoot pretty well. Oregon has been much higher in this stat most of the season, but have fallen off a cliff after the Washington State game.
Turnover %: Oregon 20.5 (151), ASU 25.9 (336)
l still chuckle at that number. That said, these are also two of the worst teams in the nation at forcing turnovers. ASU's zone just isn't very aggressive. Oregon's defense just isn't very good.
Offensive Rebounding %: ASU 31.7 (204), Oregon 30.3 (241)
Neither team is any good at hitting the boards offensively.
FTA/FGA: Oregon 44.7 (33), 43.6 (47)
Both of these teams are very good at getting to the line. The difference is that Oregon ranks 20th in the nation in not letting other teams getting to the line. ASU ranks 227th.
KEYS TO THE GAME:
1. Hit from distance: the long range shots will be there all night. Oregon has the shooters to make ASU pay for their zone.
2. Win the battle of the boards: Both of these teams have been very underwhelming on the boards, but Oregon should have a sizable height advantage. They need to use it.
3. Set the tempo: Make this a running game. ASU doesn't want to run, espeically without their PG.
Great shot for a win on the road tonight. GO DUCKS!
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OSU game coming down the wire again
Hope it doesn’t bleed into the Duck game
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Damnit, OT for the OSU game
again.
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Ducks score first
Singler with the 15 footer off the glass, plus a foul.
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Both teams come out shooting well.
Sim with the 3 makes it 8-5 Ducks, 90 seconds in.
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8-8 early, both teams hitting
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ASU with another 3 11-8 ASU
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Ducks answer right back
11-11
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Sim is on fire
13-11 Ducks
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and a dumb fight makes the OSU and UA game drag out even longer
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Was waiting for the Duck game to come on due to OSU/UA but it’s still going on switched to CSNBA & it’s on did I miss anything big?
The Legend
Sim's 3-3 shooting, Olu's brought energy in since the media timeout.
Ducks by 7.
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I keep waiting for him to say
“It confuses me why Oregon isn’t shooting a 3 with only 5 seconds off the shot clock. What do they call this type of offense?”
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Good grief Olu is a freak of an athlete
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Man, Olu's got ups. Mad ups.
Vicious jam from standing under the rim. Media timeout, 24-13 Ducks.
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Tako you ever play band for bball games?
I love having the band at basketball games. Almost more than at football games.
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I was in the basketball band all four years of college.
Got scholarship to play at women’s games, and volleyball, for the last two.
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And I've actually played a gig with Cal's basketball band, too.
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That's awesome
I love the stripped down bands with full drum sets at bball games. Brings back memories.
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Yeah, basketball band is super fun.
We get to play more interesting music, we don’t have to march, it’s inside, it doesn’t take all freakin’ day.
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You just described every reason I like going to basketball games over football games
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ASU needs to switch back to the Devil logo on the court or maybe it’s because I have a perverted mind sometimes
The Legend
You have a perverted mind?
That’s a shocker.
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Pelican!
"You could almost imagine Ducks coach Chip Kelly walking to midfield among the bloodied Bruins and shouting in his best gladiator voice, 'Are you not entertained?'" - Ted Miller
I don't care what you do with your shocker
just keep it away from me. Tako might be interested though.
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Tony Woods is going to have a monster game in the Pac sometime this yea
He’s too long and too talented to keep putting up 8 pts and 6 rb type numbers. He’ll have a monster double double on a team.
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Dear Devoe Joseph,
trying a layup with a 7’2" guy right next to you isn’t the best idea.
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Somewhat random thought I wonder if the class of Hairston, Taylor, Oguchi, & Luenen wouldn’t have underachieved if they had Altman as coach
The Legend
Hairston would have transferred in his freshman year had Altman been coach
/toosoon?
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Oregon goes cold, ASU chipping away at the lead.
35-33 Ducks
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Trent Lockett takes over at the end of the half for ASU.
Ducks up 37-35 at the break.
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Ugh, what the hell is happening?
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We're shooting 52% from the field, and have only turned the ball over 3 times...
and are losing by 4.
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Holy crap, they're shooting 71% from 3
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Yeah, they're getting quality looks and they aren't missing.
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EJ has Patrick Swayze hair
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Of all the Swayze movies...
I’ve never seen any of them. Of all the Swayze movies GIS chose Ghost
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You've never seen a Swayze movie?
And by “you’ve never seen a Swayze movie”, I mean, “you’ve never seen Road House”?
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I've never seen Road House
Isn’t it about a bouncer at some dumb hick bar? Yeah, let me go out and rent that real soon.
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And Jeff Healy plays some great music...blues and Rock
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
But Patrick Swayze really kicks some ass
shows he can do more than just dance
This game is making me need a Jumbaco
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I just got off work, did I miss anything?
/scrollsback
What’s a Jumbaco and is it why we’re losing?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Jan 12, 2012 8:53 PM PST via mobile reply actions
You stole my thing. That's rude.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 12, 2012 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
When it isn't blatant disrespectful theft.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Face it benz. Axemen wants to be Just. Like. You.
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Stole? You're my ATQ role model!
You going to SOPA my ass?
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by axemen23 on Jan 12, 2012 9:11 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
You're in college now.
You should be soaping your own ass.
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by CougarDuck on Jan 12, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Yes, but see, now I can't use it any more. You soiled it.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
A Jumbaco is the Jack in the Box Jumbo Deal.
Jumbo Jack, two tacos, fries, drink for like $3.99 or something magical.
And we’re losing because ASU’s making most of their shots, and are out-rebounding us.
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It's pretty much the greatest fast food thing other than the month out of the year Taco Bell brings back the Club Chalupa.
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I don't know what kind of meat is in the taco
but it doesn’t matter it’s deep fried goodness.
Singler and Sim frustrate me so much
They can make great plays and lead the team, but go ice freaking cold and bury Oregon
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I love it when Nared makes his one three-point attempt of the game.
Ducks back up by 4 with an 8-0 run.
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If Oregon's offense used to be
dribble around for 10 seconds and jack a 3. Now it’s turned into pass it around the perimeter, see post man with position and then pass around the perimeter some more.
I’m so frustrated seeing Olu and Woods with position in the post and our guards not giving them the ball. PASS THE BALL TO THE POST!
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BUT BUT THE BOOK SAYS YOU HAVE TO SHOOT THEM OUT OF THE ZONE RIGHT
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I don't know what book you're reading
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Adventures in Creative Basketball Excuses
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by benzduck on Jan 12, 2012 9:00 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I wish I was a mod so I could delete my own stupid comments.
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Ducks in the bonus already.
51-47 Oregon, ten minutes left.
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Please get the ball into the post
PLEASE!!!!!
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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So far this year we haven't lost to a team we weren't supposed to lose to
That streak is in jeopardy. Seriously, why aren’t we killing these guys?
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
We've given them way too many open looks at three, and they're hitting them (6-11 from 3)
and we forgot that we have a huge advantage in the post and think that our guards need to shoot every time down the floor.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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Also, we're not talented enough to blow anyone out
This is a team that is tough to blow out, and will struggle to blow anyone out. They play defense and are efficient at times, but they’re not good enough and deep enough to just run away with a game.
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HUGE block by Woods, but Singler runs into an offensive foul on the break.
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Singler with a big time three, puts the Ducks up by 7!
60-53 Oregon
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You mean they got bad breathy.
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There's some ball movement!
Loyd to Woods for the jam! Ducks by 6 with two minutes left.
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gotta win this game
Don’t like our chances against zona…just gotta split this road trip
by bduck on Jan 12, 2012 9:24 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Did I hear Ernie say he thought the PAC would get three teams in the tourney?
What’s he been smoking?
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it could happen
Colorado Stanford and Cal could all make it…
by bduck on Jan 12, 2012 9:27 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Huh?
Stanford and Colorado? I don’t think so.
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Colorado
They are well coached and play as a team…I respectfully disagree…they could win the pac 12 tourney
by bduck on Jan 12, 2012 9:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Colorado has a great coach
I really like Boyle. I don’t think they have the staying power in the Pac, and the tourney will be interesting to see how they do.
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agreed
Just to have to get hot in the tourney….like our ducks have done in the past…Colorado has the potential to do it
by bduck on Jan 12, 2012 9:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I agree that CU has the coaching to do it.
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I love the Pac 12 tourney. I hate that it's in LA
MOVE THE TOURNEY TO VEGAS!!!
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Yes. Hold it in the MGM Grand Arena.
Think of it — fans right on top of the action, and every game would be a sellout, unlike putting it in the T&M and seeing 8000 empty seats.
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totally agree
That would be awesome…the attendance is embarrassing at the staples center too…they have nothing to lose by moving it to Vegas
by bduck on Jan 12, 2012 9:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
It could happen
Cal, Zona, and Uw. Although, the later 2 need to start to show something to the committee if they are going to get in. Right now I see 2 unless Cal wins the Pac 12 tourney, then it might be just 1
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UW has some baaad losses.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
They have the athletes to run through the Pac 12 tourney though
If the Pac 12 tourney was tomorrow, I’d go with Uw, Cal or Stanford to win it
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I'm not going to tell them, are you?
Also, is someone recording this game?
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by axemen23 on Jan 12, 2012 9:28 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'm just impressed that they are willing to hire a few cheerleaders with decent racks.
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It's an undergrad student body of like 60,000
There’s gotta be a few of them in there.
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They made me thirsty.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 12, 2012 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
Loyd playing ok on one leg
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
We beat zona saturday
Got a good chance to sweep with a full house against ucla…all of a sudden we’re 15-5…then home vs OSU…
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by axemen23 on Jan 12, 2012 9:32 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Zona certainly didn't look that hot tonight
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
We have to play out of our minds to beat Zona.
Plus, OSU is looking scary and will make a serious run sometime this year. I don’t like our chances in either of those games
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Really? They didn't play well tonight and will lose a center
Due to the bench clearer in Tucson.
Fogg and Turner vs Sim Singler and Joseph.
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by axemen23 on Jan 12, 2012 9:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
They're not losing a center
If they lose a guy for screaming, that’s just dumb. They didn’t look hot, because OSU is good this year. We’ll be in the game, that’s for sure, but we have to have a better second half than we had against a weak ASU team to win
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He was ejected along with burton.
That means you miss the next game
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by axemen23 on Jan 12, 2012 9:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Split on the road, sweep at home and you're good.
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That will get you into the tourney most seasons
Probably not this one, unfortunately
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Winning road games is like stealing in this conference.
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Tony Woods had 1 rebound.
That’s not going to cut it big man. Gotta hit the boards.
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Hot sauce is great on anything
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/flaggedforcursing
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 12, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
You're talking to the guy who doesn't think food is spicy unless his nose bleeds.
I’ve come close to buying a habanero Tabasco in a gallon jug.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 12, 2012 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
Duck women win 87-73 over AZ
it’s a Thursday sweep
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St Mary's putting the boot on the Zag's neck 74-57 late
Dellavedova is a gem
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