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Quack Fix: Oregon wins on the road against ASU, will wide receivers improve in 2012?

Friday morning sure are a lot more fun with a basketball team that can get wins. Here's your quack:

What do you think? Are we going to see significant improvement from the wide receivers next season? Leave your thoughts and any other quack below. GO DUCKS!

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To be fair to Ted Miller

one reason that the Ducks in conference had the best defense was because they didn’t have to play the Ducks. That’s a good reason why you don’t just look at in-conference numbers for anyone.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 7:10 AM PST reply actions  

I think I'm being more than fair to Miller

Even taking that into account, Oregon was 1/2 a yard better than anyone else that’s not Utah, and we shouldn’t count them since they didn’t have to play Oregon or Stanford.

If we add Oregon’s conference averages to the Oregon defense, they would be giving up 5.4 yards per play, STILL better than everyone but Utah.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 7:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't argue that the Ducks deserved an A for defense, but it is fair to say we should be near the top of the PAC

but no one in the PAC12 deserved an A. Who were you scared of defensively in conference? I’m guessing no one. Alabama let LSU score 9 total points in 8 quarters and an OT, LSU scored 40 on us in 4 quarters. That is an A defense. I’m fine with a B.

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I guess it depends on your definitions

Oregon had the top defense in the conference, and according to FEI and S&P+ had a defense that was top 10 nationally. I don’t view Alabama as the typical measuring stick, because that’s probably the best defense of the BCS era.

I’d have given the Oregon defense an A-, and I would have also given the Oregon offense an A-.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Two negatives make a positive! That’s an A+ grade!

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 8:53 AM PST up reply actions  

In two out of our last four games our defense wasnt great and people tend to put more emphasis on recent events

So can I understand why he gave them a B, honestly I would have given them a B+ but that is really nitpicking

by ppilot on Jan 13, 2012 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I think that’s the grade I would have given.

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think Ted was grading on a curve

I think he was giving it a B, as in good but not excellent, in the realm of possible defenses, not compared to others in the conference.

by Brettskic on Jan 13, 2012 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Who cares

ROSE BOWL >>>>>>>>>> A or B or C or whatever

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by webfoot73 on Jan 13, 2012 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't agree at all with the hate

Giving the defense a B seems pretty kind. Best defense in the Pac 12 this year is nice- but what does that mean? No one played A defense in the conference this year- or anything close to it.

LSU wore down the D with the running game- and converted short fields into touchdowns. USC completely dominated the D until they took the foot off the gas throwing down field to safeguard a big lead. The turnovers were fortunate not forced. Wisconsin scored every time it touched the ball it seemed until the fourth quarter.

I’m not trying to throw the D under the bus. Huge part of why this team was successful this year- and as CK says “I love’em”. But a B is not an unfair grade. If Oregon defense was an A, what the heck is Alabama or LSU?

by Duckfreak on Jan 13, 2012 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

A+++

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Another way to put it is this

Do you think that the Oregon D played as well as the Oregon O?

Would most anyone think that?

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

They played more snaps and had more time on the field.

So how do we adjust for that? The D gave up far fewer points than the offense scored despite being on the field far more.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Even accounting for YPP or points per drive

Oregon wasn’t so hot. The only way that Oregon looks really, really good is by including opponent adjustments – but even then it’s not like Oregon’s D was better than Oregon’s O this year.

I think the D is highly underrated for Oregon. They were last year and they are this year. Aliotti is kicking ass. However, what makes the team go is the offense in almost every game, and that’s what Oregon’s identity really is. It goes very well with the D mentality of bending, not breaking, causing drives to stall and not caring about giving up yards (and going after big stops like sacks and TOs) but that isn’t the same thing as saying that they’re an elite unit or that they’re the primary strength of the team.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

The only way it looks good STATISTICALLY.

Which can mean everything and nothing. Often at the same time.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

the D won TOC

time on clock

TONP time of non-possession

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by webfoot73 on Jan 13, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually they lead the nation… inverse of 120th in TOP

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by webfoot73 on Jan 13, 2012 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think comparing Oregon defense to historically great defenses is good. If we’re going to do that, a B is fair, but that would also mean that Oregon’s offense would not be close to getting an A.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Defense Doesn't Make the Grade

You’re right…giving the Oregon Defense a “B” is a joke. A “C” is more like it. Average. Forget stats, did you even see a game this year? It was another year of hoping the offense doesn’t get in a funk while the defense gives up first down after first down, touchdown after touchdown. I can’t even believe you think this defense was worthy of an “A”.

Fact is, if we don’t get some big, fast “SEC-type” dudes up front next year it puts too much pressure on an offense that is at it’s best free-wheeling.

by Bobbyduckalot on Jan 13, 2012 8:00 AM PST reply actions  

Well, that is a bit over the top

We lost 2 games all year, both to top 5 finishing teams. You don’t do that with a crap defense. As was pointed out, we lead the PAC in yrds given up per play. There are no scary defenses in the PAC, and I love for us to have the only one next year, but this years D was pretty good.

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 8:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Not "Crap" average

In no way did I mean that the defense was “crap”. Not my point. I just meant that giving an “A” grade…or even a “B” to a defense that gives up 30 and 40 points a game just doesn’t make sense to me. If your defense gives up 31 points to UCLA and AZ squads and gets an “A”, what defense gets a “B”?

I guess I’m just old school and believe you have to earn your grades.

But don’t mistake me, I don’t think our defense was “crap”.

by Bobbyduckalot on Jan 13, 2012 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

But we didn't give up 30 and 40 points a game

certainly not consistently. Yes, we gave up 30 to stanford, 38 to USC, 31 to Wisconsin (they scored on a defensive TD) and 33 to LSU. Those also all happened to be top ten teams in offense and scoring in the nation, and in each case were held significantly below their season averages in points and yards per play (save USC).

Put it another way: the average offense runs around 60 plays and around 10 drives. Oregon faces, on average, about 12 drives and 75 plays. Do you think, maybe, that might have something to do with why Oregon gives up a bit more points?

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

The defense held Stanford to their worst offensive performance of Andrew Luck’s career by just about every available metric. When you look at what the Oregon defense accomplished over the entire season, it was pretty excellent.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Did you even see a game this year?

I saw quite a few games where the defense made play after play. I saw a defense that shut down Stanford for big chunks of the game. I saw a defense that held LSU to their second-lowest totals of the year in yards per play (after Alabama). I saw a defense that was one of the leaders in the nation in sacks.

The defense did not do well against USC. It did great in most every other game.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 8:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Forget stats, did you even see a game this year?

Do you have any idea how this makes you sound when you say things like that?

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

did you even see a game this year?

nope, we all just look at the stats after the games are over

by echo31 on Jan 13, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

look at the stats after the games are over

Ha, maybe you do. I just listen to the talking heads and make my opinion based on what they said.

"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly

by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

that’s probably a better way to do it, stats can be confusing so it’s probably best to let Robert Smith, Mark May and Lou Holtz tell you how the Ducks are doing

by echo31 on Jan 13, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

so is that why I pick Notre Dame to win the national championship every year?

Even after they start the year 0-3 every time I’m still picking ND in the national championship…all that spittle is hypnotizing.

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by keeerrrttt1 on Jan 13, 2012 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm still counting on them winning it this year!

Go Golden Domers!

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Usually in my mother’s basement. That’s the best place for looking at stats and bloviating on the internet.

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Your mom has a basement? Sweet!

But does she have an outdoor patio? And, more importantly, does her WiFi reach it?

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by Babablockhead on Jan 13, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m having no trouble getting it…

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

An outdoor patio has no value if it is not new.

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

What kind of statute of limitations is there on being 'new'?

Do I need to replace my outdoor patio every year? Every six months? Inquiring minds must know!!

Come to think of it….my indoor patio could use replacing.

I don't mean to impose...

by TheOcean on Jan 13, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If you bought the house with an existing patio, the patio adds no further value.

If you buy a house and add a patio, the house is then worth more, the difference usually being more than the cost installing the patio.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

This is not about houses

This is about New Outdoor Patios. Anything less simply will not do.

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Heresy!

I don't mean to impose...

by TheOcean on Jan 13, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

You, sir, are an idiot!

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You are to logic as Nick Holt is to defensive.

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh.

You (standing in the middle of an otherwise empty lot: “Let’s go out on the patio.”

Me: " "

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Shufelt: Is it new?
BodySpray23: (looking up at the empty sky) is it outdoors?
Me: It looks like a patio to me
AtQ: Yay, New Outdoor Patio! (group hangs a Top Meme of 2011 ribbon on said patio)

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 5:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Who made you the patio expert? Let’s see your credentials.

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Or credenza

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Re the wide receivers, while we'll surely improve I'm not as optimistic for 2012 as some

having Sumler and Blackmon come in and DAT develop should give us some real speed, but it is still inexperienced. Maybe the Rfr can run crisp routes and get open, but maybe they need another year before they are more than just athletic. I’m expecting to see more in the lines on WR sweeps, bubbles and fly patterns than the more complicated short and mid level routes that rely on WR experience more than speed. It will be a huge athleticism upgrade, but we’ll see if it translates into a truly effective passing attack or just the occasional big play
If Huff lives up to potential and stays healthy, DAT is used a lot here and the Freshman impress we will be great. Worst case, Huff is dinged up, DAT is only used occasionally, and the Fr (and Dawkins) don’t make a big jump to impact players

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

a name not listed that had injuries this year that could be a huge factor is Rahsaan Vaughn

After a year to learn the system, we should see vast improvement from Vaughn, most JCs take an entire year just to acclimate. If he stays healthy he could be a legit threat, much in the way Terence Scott exploded on the scene his senior year.

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by keeerrrttt1 on Jan 13, 2012 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Does he only have one more year with us? Vaughn, that is.

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

yup

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by David Piper on Jan 13, 2012 9:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, would love to see Vaughn make that leap as well

I don’t think we’ll have a bad receiving corp next year, I’m just not ready to declare we are moving into a passing attack, deadly pass game situation in ‘12.
If DAT isn’t a receiver our best receiver will be Huff, who was injured and very inconsistent, ranging from spectacular to dropsy and pouting. Hawkins and Vaughn could both improve a lot, but neither were regularly effective this year and didn’t even regularly beat out Murphy or Hoffman. The freshman could be total studs, but they could also just be skinny fast guys that stretch the field but can’t be relied on in 3rd down, crossing, come back, timing routes etc. I’m cautiously optimistic for a good passing game, but lots of unknowns and assumptions about guys getting better.
Oh, but DAT will be an absolute stud no matter what position he is in. Throw the ball to him just 5 times a game and he is our leading receiver.

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

This was also Hawkins first year practicing as a wide receiver

He could make a huge jump this offseason given the opportunity to only have to work on improving himself as a receiver.

Lets not forget Dungy either. He has now had 2 full years to learn the offense and has some game experience to draw from while training this offseason.

What I don’t see happening is the redshirt freshmen having that much of an impact next year. I see Huff, DAT, Vaughn, Dungy and Hawkins getting most of the reps with the three redshirting freshmen and BJ Kelley fighting for reps.

by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Jan 13, 2012 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

That kind of depresses me. Outside of DAT, who I expect to be very involved in the running game as well, we kind of know what we’re getting with all of those guys, and it’s not much of an improvement on this year.

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, if Blackmon or Sumler aren't big next year

our passing game will be not much different than this year. We lose LT, our most stable and reliable WR. Other than DAT having a monster year all over the field none of the current guys are going to be that incredible.
I’m sure Vaugn/Hawkins/Dungy will be better, but they were pretty mediocre this year so better just makes them decent. If we are really going to be strong in passing it will be Huff, DAT, Lyerla and a freshman, IMO, not the under-performers from last year turning into studs over an off-season

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

people always bash on the passing game this year...

anybody amidst your bashing of Thomas and the WRs ever bother to look back at the stats and recognize that it was only the single greatest season from a QB statistically in University of Oregon history? And that’s with missing the Colorado and WSU games!

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by keeerrrttt1 on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

How do you figure?

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

well...

-Most passing yards in a season in school history
-Most TD passes in a season in school history
-Third QB in school history with a 6 TD game (O’Neil, Harrington)
-Best TD/INT ratio in school history for a starter
-Highest QB rating

And yet amidst that, many many many fans were screaming for him to be benched for Bennett. There was a TON of bashing of Thomas over the course of the year.

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by keeerrrttt1 on Jan 13, 2012 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

We also played 14 games

That has to factor into it somehow, right?

I think DT had a good year. I think that he was very streaky at times. I also think that the loss of Maehl really hurt him. I would bet that last year was better if you look at yards per game, TDs per game and INTs per game.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

DT didn’t play 14 games. As keeerrrttt stated, DT accumulated those stats in 12.5 games. Joey had 2694 as a Jr on 195 completions out of 375 attempts (13.8 ypc and 7.2 ypa). Darron had 2761 yards on 211 completions out of 339 attempts. So Darron had more yards on less attempts than Joey in his best statistical season despite the number of games.

However I did just find that Akili had more than both by a lot in 1998 with 3763 yards. Good lord that was quite the season. 10 yards per attempt, 30 TDs to 7 INTs, and 166.1 QB rating. 342 yards per game because of only having played 11 games.

http://www.totalfootballstats.com/PlayerQB.asp?id=3558

by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 13, 2012 1:38 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ahhhhh....

My first year at Oregon!

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I was saying that 14 games means more total yards

wasn’t sure if he was including Bennett’s totals in it or not.

But yeah, Akili Smith looked so very, very good. There was a reason he was drafted highly – he exploded that year.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Now THaT was a team without a defense.

I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.

by benzduck on Jan 13, 2012 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Sirmon tearing his pectoral killed the defense in 1998.

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by keeerrrttt1 on Jan 14, 2012 1:45 AM PST up reply actions  

It's as old as the game itself, this particular saying:

“The most popular player on any team is the backup quarterback.”

A couple nice runs for positive yardage and a 50% completion rate and Brian Bennett becomes The Chosen One.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

No one’s bashing Thomas here. Not one person has even mentioned Darron. The passing game was inconsistent, somewhat because of DT’s injury and mechanical issues, but mostly because our receivers were all over the place.

Given that we’re losing the best running back in school history, I think it makes a lot of sense to hope our passing game improves next year so we can see a more consistent offensive attack.

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I think keeeeert's point

(and correct me if I’m wrong) is that Thomas (who was bashed all year long until the Rose Bowl) and the WRs had a good year, despite our frustrations. No, it wasn’t spectacular, but it was good enough to be one of the greatest single season records in UO history. Not bad for a bunch of guys who can’t catch and qb who throws high every time.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

yup, pretty much...big picture, folks.

Or maybe I’ve been watching too many games from the 80s and early 90s lately that it skews my perception of what qualifies as good QB play, because looking at the performances as a whole and Thomas had an amazing year, yet any time there was a single overthrown pass or dropped ball and people were screaming for Bennett.

I think Bennett will be great for Oregon when his time comes, but there was a lot of facepalms and smh action from me every time people yelled for Bennett.

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by keeerrrttt1 on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

going back watching games from 87-88...

and seeing Tony Hargain at QB, or the combo of Pete Nelson/Bob Brothers makes me really appreciate the stellar QB play we have witnessed from Darron Thomas.

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by keeerrrttt1 on Jan 13, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Sort of OT: the @ Azzy state link you posted the other day

I was surprised how much leading with the head tackles there were. It was crazy how different the game has become in such a short time.

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 11:43 AM PST up reply actions  

helmet-to-taint tackling has also increased

though it is also not recommended. Perhaps that was why Boyett was stumbling around the field at the end, still feeling the effect of improper helmet-to-taint technique.

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by keeerrrttt1 on Jan 13, 2012 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

The hit wasn't that bad. Ball just needed to wash his balls.

Boyette was trying to call a time out on the smell!

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

I still don’t know why we brought up Thomas. Yes, people bashed him unfairly during the year (although I think that mainly came from a few scattered sources and has since gotten blown out of proportion). But no one’s bashing him now. We’re talking about the WRs.

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The receivers were bad because Thomas sucked.

Right? BRIAN BENNETT THROWS A CATCHABLE BALL.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

My biggest problem with Thomas isn't his accuracy

It’s his throwing motion. He takes a long time to get the ball out of his hands. If you set up a screen it sometimes feel like we loose a yard or two because the throw takes too long.

Other than that I think DT is a phenomenal QB.

ssshhh....

by OregOnDucks on Jan 13, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I think his accuracy is a function of his motion. And I agree with you about it.

But let’s not get into that. WE’RE HERE TO BASH THE WIDE RECEIVERS, DAMMIT.

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

He super fast, but it isn’t that slow. It’s not Tebow or Roethlisberger. What slows his motion down is that he pats the ball with his other hand before he releases. (Really, I’m shock that hasn’t been more of a tip for defenders)

Mechanically, his real problem is that he doesn’t properly plant his feet.

Those are nit-picky things though. He’s had a great year.

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think the WRs had a good year at all. I think Thomas was good. I think DAT was good, but he’s something slightly different than a WR. The group of Tuinei, Huff, Hoffman, Murphy, Vaughn, Hawkins, etc. had a mediocre year, at best (in the passing game – they were still very good at blocking for the running game).

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't look at stats

I watch the games

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by Matt Daddy on Jan 13, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Heh.

It’s the only way to fly. The old Mark 1 Mod 0 Human Eyeball is a hell of an efficient way to gather data.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Darron did very well this year

especially considering not having any great WRs. He did make some crazy high passes every now and then, but overall did a fine job. If he had good WRs this year he’d have been a real stud.

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm guessing returning production

but that’s no way to judge who the best receiver will be. And guys, remember we have Dwayne Stanford coming in next year too who looks like he can catch the ball.

by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 13, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

The 3 guys we picked up last year can catch the ball.

I think CK, Frost, and Helfrich went out of their way to preserve their ‘shirts more than anything else. Huff played last year out of desperation for depth and speed rather than because he was just so damn good (he wasn’t a receiver in HS). Same reason Maehl ended up at receiver, due to the attrition at the position that year. I think the staff thought they had enough players to get by this year with Huff and LT returning, the addition of Vaughn, the ’shirt from last year coming back, and Hoffman (who, to be fair, is a damn good blocker at least).

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

They might have expected better development from Dungy, Lowe and Hawkins

which didn’t necessarily come to fruition either. Considering those guys didn’t come along that quickly, it worries me even more about what Sumler, Blackmon and Kelley are going to be able to do next year.

At this point I think we have to go with what we know, Huff, DAT and Vaughn and hope for what we don’t, and that is that Hawkins, Lowe, Dungy and the 3 newbies take another step forward.

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by Matt Daddy on Jan 13, 2012 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure one predicts the other.

Huff played as a true frosh, but no receiver did this past year. Does that “mean” anything other than they were more desperate for speed and bodies in the slot last year? We’ll just have to wait and see.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

This

He had a phenomenal freshman season and it worked out in the end. Had we not needed bodies to line up due to injuries, off the field issues and transfers, I don’t think he would have played. We played him out of desperation. Nothing against walk ons, but you don’t generally play them in games if you have the personnel.

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Again, what does it "mean?"

We’re only going to find out come September. Simply because none of the 3 4* freshmen played doesn’t mean they couldn’t have been productive had they been pressed into duty like Huff was.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

We still got plenty of time with Hoffman and Murphy

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that like playing spin the bottle and winding up locked in the closet with the fat girl for five minutes?

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey man, don't knock it till you try it

Fat girls try harder

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by Babablockhead on Jan 13, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Fat chicks need love too. But they gotta pay!

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m both. They call me Borge Plooney.

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

That is funny, because I am the other half of each.

Nice to meet you Borge Plooney, I am Grad Clit.

I don't mean to impose...

by TheOcean on Jan 13, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That sounds serious. I would see a physician immediately.

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

because Huff is our best returning WR

of course DAT will be our best player, but I’m not sure he will be a WR. Who else would be the #1 WR if not Huff? Huff was way better than Vaughn, Dawkins, Murphy etc. The frosh may be awesome, they may not. I can’t believe they are total studs or they would have played this year like DAT and Lyerla. WR wasn’t exactly packed with talent or free from injuries, so that leads me to believe they mostly weren’t ready and won’t be incredible next year

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Lyerla and Huff

both played as freshman because of depth issues at their position this year. DAT was just too good to leave off the field. I don’t think we can read into it in anyway concerning the three redshirting receivers.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I think this is misguided.
I can’t believe they are total studs or they would have played this year like DAT and Lyerla.

1) DAT was the #1 Athlete and #5 overall recruit. That comparison is unfair.

2) Lyerla played because we had exactly ZERO depth at TE. The other alternatives were a couple of lumbering walk-ons or the other true frosh, Christian French, who is apparently pretty raw even for a freshman.

I think it was a given that, unless he was grossly overrated, CK was going to get snaps for DAT. If White and Williams were healthy, Lyerla would likely have been ‘shirted. So one doesn’t predict the other. Remember that unknown redshirt who set the Pac-10 freshman rushing record a couple years back? Fatty McButterthighs or something?

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

And honestly,

If we could have every freshman redshirt, wouldn’t we prefer that? I love seeing DAT rolling through teams and Lyerla scoring TDs, but I also love it when we are deep at every position with players who have spent a couple seasons in the system and in the weight room. If we don’t have to play any freshmen til their sophomore years, that would be awesome!

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Well yeah

but highly recruited talent expects to play early and often. I wonder how this effects the recruiting process.

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Obviously, there will always be players

who need to be on the field, either because of promises made during recruiting or sheer talent, but even then, it would be great if we didn’t have to play those guys cause we were stacked already. I realize it’s a very idealistic wish.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, I'm not saying these guys wont develop into big time players later on

but there has been lots of talk about how awesome we will be at WR next year even though it was our worst position this year. People saying that must mean the RsFr will be game changers and I’m not sure this will be the case in 2012.

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure anyone who knows anything (and there I go discounting myself already)

are anticipating game changers. I think we’re expecting them to be better then who we’ve had this year. And maybe at least one player will be able to showcase the speed to stretch the D often enough to force the D to account for it. Improvement over this year is what I’m expecting, not all-American play…yet.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

USC had a lot of attrition with players leaving due to SC's depth in the Carrol era.

There’s a tipping point somewhere. Heck, Kiffy went out of his way to get Farmer on the field even when it was obvious he needed to sit out a year this past season to work on his skills. Why? Well, he was a top recruit and expected to play.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I realize it's not realistic.

Still wish it could happen. I was glad to hear last fall that we were redshirting those guys.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

He had 3 years to play 2.

So 1 down…

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting.

Huff played primarily RB and QB in high school IIRC, and he played as a true frosh. The “big 3” all played at WR (although Blackmon played WR, QB, and RB as well as returning kicks depending on the situation) yet you have doubts that they’re anything more than “athletic?” Huff’s inexperience at the position STILL shows in his route running and his tendency to try to catch the ball with his body rather than his hands (with the results at times being a bit…inconsistent), so the big 3 should already be ahead of the curve.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm sure they will develop into good, maybe great WRs

but they are freshman. Players like DAT or Lee at USC don’t come around very much, freshman usually show flashes of brilliance one play and then fumble or get jammed or run the wrong route the next. No insult to them, I’m totally excited about them, but relying on them to make our passing game so much better than this year seems premature.

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

They are no longer freshmen. They now have a year in the system.

And one doesn’t have to be Robert Woods to be an excellent receiver. There is PLENTY of room between Justin Hoffman and Robert woods to carve out a place for one’s self.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep, but not to turn us from a run first team into an air attack

at least not next year. I’m simply commenting on some folks opinion that WR will be a strength next year, while I think it will improve but still have substantial weaknesses if DAT isn’t dedicated to the position.

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it's somewhere in the middle.

I don’t see CK fundamentally changing to an air attack regardless, but I think we will be markedly improved at receiver. Plus DT’s knee will (hopefully) be healthy again, which should help keep his passes from getting away from him over the receiver’s heads.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Miller just released his PAC12 All-Bowl team, & DAT got his own special position

The Legend

by KJ Brophy on Jan 13, 2012 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

I love the Michael Clay pick he had a phenomenal game, and is a very close second to Kiko for Defensive MVP

John Boyett wasn’t half bad either.

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by QuackinAK on Jan 13, 2012 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

USC depth gets even more questionable.

George Farmer is ineligible for spring ball. I’d assume he’ll be back for the fall, but that’s yet another hit at the WR position.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 8:16 AM PST reply actions  

Oh, and here’s the link.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I kinda think

that this is a double-edged sword. on the one hand they’re losing people left and right – but on the other hand that allows them to give scholarships to kids that they want to more often. Which means that they can figure out whether or not someone’s a good fit, cut them and then recoup that scholarship instead of having that player on their team in the 3rd string.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

They can only sign 15, it doesn’t matter how many people leave or fail out. Normally this wouldn’t be a big deal, because this always happens at USC, but under scholarship restrictions, it will leave them very thin.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 8:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think that's true

they can only have 75 total scholarships. If someone goes away they can sign someone else to replace them.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

From how I understand it, they are limited to both 75 scholarships total, AND 15 scholarships per class. According to this ESPN insider article, all USC can do it bring in early enrolees to count against last year’s class. Those won’t count against the 15, but will against the 75.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Both of you are right and wrong

We can only sign 15 a year and have a hard cap of 75 at all times, but it DOES matter that people leave, because before these transfers we would have too many people to bring in a ‘full’ class of 15 freshmen plus any early enrollees.

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by RabbitSC on Jan 13, 2012 8:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

They are restricted by class.

Maximum of 15 for the next 3 years. They can’t make up losses.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow. Not being able to make up losses.

That’s huuuuuge. Especially for a school that recruits talent that predicts well at the next level.

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait a minute.....

If that’s the case, do we think that has anything to do with Barkley staying?

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Barkley wants to be the bestest Trojan ever, because gosh darn it he just loves Watts so much.

Has nothing at all to do with potential Heisman’s translating to #1 pick $$$. No ego involved at all.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, those are the obvious reasons (or the sizzle the coaching staff fed him to keep him around)

I’m not trying to get all conspiracy theory-ish on yalls, but from a team management standpoint, it makes a lot of sense to keep Barkley around for another year. Not only do you keep a proven QB who knows your offense really well, barring injury, that’s one less position you have to reload in the short term.

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Best of luck to him. But wasn’t he playing a bit more of a RB role at some point?

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

They stuck him at RB earlier in the year because they were stacked at WR and thin at RB. Or at least that’s what I remember hearing. I don’t know if he was upset about the lack of playing time and Kiffin was trying to get him on the field in a way that would help the team or what.

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Was he really teetering on transferring? I haven’t heard that.

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

No, sorry. I didn't mean to insinuate he wanted to transfer.

I meant, highly touted recruits expect to play early and often. If they don’t, they tend to get antsy.

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

That way, Der Kiffermeister could say, “We gave you a chance, son, but you sucked.”

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Bravo on the oddest stat of the day.

He lost somewhere between one and four yards on one carry?

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Is this a thing?

I really hope it’s not.

One can only wonder what might have been had 2007 signee Rishard Matthews or 2008 signees Chris Harper, Garrett Embry and Blake Cantu or 2009 signees Diante Jackson, Tyrece Gaines, Braxton Lane and Nick Cole been on hand to complement the existing group

I know it’s probably not and I’m about to get a condescending reply, but if it is a thing how much of it is attributed to WR’s not getting enough attention in Kelly’s offense?

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by PondJunky on Jan 13, 2012 8:27 AM PST reply actions  

Chris Harper wanted to play QB
Garrett Embry was kicked off the team
Blake Cantu can’t stay healthy
Diante Jackson and Tyrece Gaines liked smoking a lot of weed
Braxton Lane was always going to play baseball
Nick Cole was a two-star last minute offer (what even happened to him by the way?)

Our recruiting during that period was pretty awful, and a large reason why Pflugrad didn’t stick around. I don’t think it had much to do with Kelly’s offense. It could have become a self-fulfilling prophecy, but Frost has gotten some really talented players in, and it will be fun to see what they can do.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 8:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Cool thanks.

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by PondJunky on Jan 13, 2012 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Well

Pflugrad didn’t stick around because we fired his dad. I don’t think you have to search for more reasons than that.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I meant Pflugrad the coach was fired because he couldn’t keep receivers around. Same thing with Michael Gray.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, gotcha

Though other than Maehl it seems like we had better receivers before Pflugrad left. Maybe I’m misremembering or thinking too fondly of Dixon’s ability to air it long, but it seemed like we had quite a few good receivers back in 2007 and 2008, and not nearly as much from 2009 forward (with the exception of Maehl).

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 8:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Jaison Williams and Brian Paysinger was good, and Derrick Jones (who also washed out) were good deep threats.

The lack of good receivers from 2009 onward is a direct result of his 2006-2009 recruiting classes. Pflugrad was only directly responsible for 2007-2009, but it wasn’t much better. Out of those 4 classes, only 4 receivers worked out. Terrance Scott (who we only got one good season out of), Drew Davis, Jeff Maehl (who was recruited by Neal), and LT. So only one incoming freshman that Pflugrad recruited worked out. Yikes.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Also Maehl was a DB

who became a WR

I credit my urine for the victory.

by mackjones23 on Jan 13, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Kenjon was also a DB

Recruit More DBs! or have our DB coach start recruiting offense.

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by Quack Addict on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't know what it's like in a recruit's living room

but I know I sure enjoy it when John Neal is Talkin’ ’bout Stuff

Who needs normal sleep patterns?

by AcadianTraverse on Jan 13, 2012 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

He's referring to why his dad didn't stick around.

Cause he couldn’t recruit guys with staying power.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 8:38 AM PST via Android app up reply actions  

I guess you could say they all...

Pfluffed their lines.

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by DamienS on Jan 13, 2012 9:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I asked Moseley after noticing Cole disappeared from the roster

Per Moseley, he transferred to Northern Arizona at the end of fall camp. No explanation. I took an extra interest because Cole went to the same high school I did.

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Embry left with a bang though.

Otherwise people would have spent all of last year clamoring for Darron Thomas to replace Jeremiah Masoli at QB.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Which direction does that go again?

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by axemen23 on Jan 13, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

I wish there was a handy way to find out...

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Following that train of thought...

Say all that Frat Burglary stuff never happens. How likely is it that we go undefeated and make the Natty in 2010? Or even win the conference that year over Stanford? And then, without perhaps even making a BCS game, and also potentially losing to USC in LA, recruiting suffers – at the very least the Black Mamba’s only appearance in Autzen would be as a back-up DB for the Trojans. And without the Mamba, whither 2011? Darron Thomas finally earns the starting job but has to cut his teeth without any viable receivers. The defense is good, but the offense is inconsistent, without many playmakers beyond LMJ and Barner. In fact, after a regressive 2010 campaign, and without a ton of positive trajectory going into 2011, maybe LMJ decides to go pro a year earlier.

Basically, without one of the most embarrassing moments in Oregon history, the greatest era in Oregon history might not have happened. So Thanks, Garrett Embry, wherever you are. We own you one.

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by omb on Jan 13, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

whoa

That’s…whoa.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't forget Jamere Holland

Wasnt he a 2009 pickup?

I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.

by benzduck on Jan 13, 2012 10:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, yes. I forgot about him because he transferred from USC, rather than signed. He played at Oregon in 2008 and 2009 before his awesome facebook rant, among many other things.

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by jtlight on Jan 13, 2012 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

His attitude sucked

I remember watching him in the ’09 Utah game acting like a douche. Would play hard one play and then literally just barely even jog on the next play

by NICKPAPAGEORGIOTHEDUCK on Jan 14, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I love this snippet from the article on recruiting visits because it further illustrates how silly the rankings can be
“Perkins has been recruited by Oregon’s Don Pellum at linebacker; other schools are interested in him at running back..”

He is listed as a 4 star athlete (by Rivals) and may have a more developed skillset for RB, but it doesn’t mean he can’t become a 4 star LB after developing in the position. Yeah, maybe it’s a little different because he’s an athlete and not a designated position, but it just seems so ludicrous. I think one of the reasons we are so successful is we recruit athletes and give them the opportunity to develop where their heart is.

One of my favorite quotes:

"Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid."
― Albert Einstein

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 9:27 AM PST reply actions  

We have a pretty good history

of recruiting kids who want to play something and letting them play that. We also do a good job of finding a place for kids to play who are behind in the depth chart.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

#1 Priority Right Now...

Making sure that Kaddu, Paulson, and Tuinei get to wear liquid-metal helmets at their All-Star games.

All other topics are backburner.

by pete592 on Jan 13, 2012 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

That is amazing.

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

...ly little beer to have while snowed in

what are you going to drink after 3pm when that is gone?

by OregonNYC on Jan 13, 2012 11:28 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I wasn’t going to comment on the beer part. Um.. is that Coors light?

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

coors light is grounds for an ATQ ban

just unacceptable in every way…..

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by David Piper on Jan 13, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Beat me to it

But the sheer awesomeness of front door snow fridge cancels it out.

Now with mustache guarantee!

by HoodRiverDuck on Jan 13, 2012 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

and why

Is there no sheet rock on the walls? Wouldn’t that make it warmer, living in Alaska and all. Or is that Arkansas
/amidoingitright?

by Bandduck23 on Jan 13, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

My guess is that is like… an unfinished garage or something.

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I stole the picture off the internet.

But I agree that is some crappy beer.

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by QuackinAK on Jan 13, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

The picture was in Valdez, Alaska

I found it here.

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by QuackinAK on Jan 13, 2012 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe someone could photoshop the labels.

But as HRD says, the sheer awesomeness, not only cancels it out, I may try the idea myself, I have plenty of snow, it wouldn’t be that hard to pile it up against a rarely used door.

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by QuackinAK on Jan 13, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair,

his supply ship is stuck in ice and is being escorted in by an icebreaker as we speak. Rather than threaten bans for Zima and Coors Blight, we should commend him for stocking a fairly complete and unbelievably awesome bar.

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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I can't tell you how awesome that is.

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by Matt Daddy on Jan 13, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This is great!

Good on ya for making the best of an otherwise crappy situation!

Winners of the Platypus trophy!

by CaDuck on Jan 13, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

you need some kind of ATQ medal for that.

well done sir!

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by PondJunky on Jan 13, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I should read all the post first.

But you still get a “well done sir” for posting it.

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by PondJunky on Jan 13, 2012 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

you win life. period.

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by axemen23 on Jan 14, 2012 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

off topic pet peeve of the day

idiots that use “Born in the USA” or “Fortunate Son” as some kind of patriotic theme song. Listen to the words, dumbass.

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by David Piper on Jan 13, 2012 11:26 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

there are a lot of songs where the lyrics seem quite contradictory to the common perception

Unquestionably the weirdest one of 2011 was Foster The People’s “Pumped Up Kicks.”
Or am I the only one who found it odd to see so many people happily singing along and dancing to a song about school shootings & mass murder? Happiest school shooting song since Pearl Jam’s “Jeremy”

"Stay the $#%& away from the Pelican’s PBJ!!!"

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by keeerrrttt1 on Jan 13, 2012 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

OMFG YES!

Also, “Do it to me one more time / Once is never enough / from a man like you” is not necessarily a compliment. -from teh twitters.

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t particularly care for that song, but half of it is probably because of what you said – the way it’s used all over the place despite the lyrics.

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed

Also, Every Breath You Take by the Police is not a romantic song. It’s a song about being a sinister, creepy stalker over your ex.

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

COUGHTWILIGHTFANSCOUGH

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by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

If you’re being stalked and you like it, you aren’t being stalked.

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

^^^^^creepy!

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Whatcha doin’ later?

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions  

but, but, but...

Diddy made it into a song about his dead friend it must be good.

by Bandduck23 on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Also the people who play “With or Without You” at their wedding. Ummm, really? I mean, it’s right there in the title.

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

My favorite Police song

about things that can get you arrested:
Don’t Stand So Close to Me

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by daisyduck on Jan 13, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

My least favorite:

Roxeanne

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by Gorbachav5 on Jan 13, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

RRRRRAAAAAOOOOOXAAAAAAANNNE

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by JShufelt on Jan 13, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the Eddie Murphy cover the best.

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by daisyduck on Jan 13, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

YOOOOU DON"T HAFTA PUT OUT DA RED LIGHT

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by kalon on Jan 13, 2012 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh. I never quite realized

how twisted Sting is about women. But when you line all those songs up in a row, there it is.

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by daisyduck on Jan 13, 2012 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

My uncle and aunt had a 50th wedding anniversary DVD with old pics of them

And their son put “It Ain’t Me, Babe” in the background, as in they didn’t look like that anymore. I mean a freaking break-up song for a 50th wedding anniversary DVD.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Jan 13, 2012 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Your cousin is a smart one, eh?

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by daisyduck on Jan 13, 2012 2:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Amen

The song “From a Distance” is in the same category. It’s not a song about how everything is awesome because Tim Tebow is watching us, folks.

I saw Springsteen on the Ghost of Tom Joad tour with my dad, just The Boss, a chair, an acoustic guitar, and a harmonica. He played Born in the USA that night and it was eerie, one of the darkest songs I’ve ever seen performed live. Anyone who could hear it in that context and think it was anything but a sad song needs to have their head checked.

by JonathanPDX on Jan 13, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I saw Springsteen on the Ghost of Tom Joad tour with my dad, just The Boss, a chair, an acoustic guitar, and a harmonica.

This would be awesome.

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by David Piper on Jan 13, 2012 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

yes, and Lenny Kravitz apparently had no idea that Canada’s The Guess Who were making fun of American women in their song “American Woman”

by echo31 on Jan 13, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't care if you're Maurice Chevallier

“Thank Heaven For Little Girls” is the creepiest song ever written!

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

hehehe

Gary Crowton interviews for the Utah OC job.

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by David Piper on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM PST reply actions  

oops

linky

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by David Piper on Jan 13, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Experience is an easy sell in this economy.

I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.

by benzduck on Jan 13, 2012 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Its Utah so I feel bad for them

From Chow to Crowton, ouch…

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by skywaker9 on Jan 13, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

?

??

Why would they even bother interviewing him?

????

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by CaDuck on Jan 13, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN's all-bowl team

One Ducky present but it’s not who you’d expect.

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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 13, 2012 12:01 PM PST reply actions  

You know this has been said to a recruit.
their coach is seconds from accepting the Miami Dolphins job

"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Jan 13, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Coinkydink? I think not.

Spence has his hand to the pulse of collitch footbaw.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 13, 2012 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

RIGHHHHHT!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 13, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

The rest of the conference wishes

Aint’ gonna happen.

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by skywaker9 on Jan 13, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Guys, guys, this is delicious!! Enough football debate to tide me over for a month

Bill C does his best to convince us he watched all that football and then some.

Oregon in only 4 of the top 100 games. I posit that this is rank, foul and and entirely biased. I can count way more games than that which should be in the top 100 games of the season:

1. Rose Bowl.
2. Stanford – Oregon
3. LSU – Oregon
4. USC – Oregon
5. Er, thinking here, thinking, hold on
6. Hmm, need a soda, be right back
7. OK, I got it ! Stanford – USC in triple overtime!!
8. Ooops, wait, that wasn’t a Ducks game, I forgot the question…
9. When does the 2012 season start, again?

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by gamedaytribe on Jan 13, 2012 2:58 PM PST reply actions  

Ah man.

I can only imagine. I had a four pack of the regular Rasputin to kick of I hate washington day. that stuff is fantastic. I picked up some dove dark chocolate to go with it and it blew my mind. How is it?

"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly

by PondJunky on Jan 13, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

About like you'd expect

11.5 ABV for starters, so there it’s that. Definite wood and bourbony flavors in there. Not as smooth as the regular Old Rasputin, and I was certainly done after one. I shoulda let it warm up more, imperials are always easier to drink that way. I liked it plenty.

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by HoodRiverDuck on Jan 13, 2012 8:59 PM PST via Android app up reply actions  

Yes.

I could only have two at a time. I too let them warm up,. I strongly recommend the chocolate thing. It really smooths it out and helps the nutty flavor show itself.

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by PondJunky on Jan 13, 2012 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

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