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Its time for Oregon to rediscover its history and get serious about women's basketball

Does the name Mercedes Russell ring a bell to you? She's the #1 women's basketball recruit in the country. In 2010-11, as a high school sophomore, she averaged 25 points, 15 rebounds, and five blocks per game en route to a state championship and being named state player of the year, and she's doing equally impressive things this season.

And she just happens to live in Springfield, Oregon.


Sure, she's taken a visit to Oregon. But she's also showing a ton of interest in the schools where she actually has a chance to be successful: UConn, Tennessee, Louisville, etc. (why do we think UConn scheduled a game at Matt Court next year). We know how this game goes. Last year's #8 recruit in the country, Shoni Schimmel out of Franklin High in Portland, showed no more than token interest in Oregon before landing at Louisville. I'm hoping the recruitment of Russell is different, but I'm not holding my breath.

Oregon is completely irrelevant in the world of women's basketball. Thing is, it wasn't always this way, and doesn't have to be going forward.

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For much of the 90s, Oregon Women's Basketball was hardly irrelevant. With Jody Runge patrolling the sideline, the Ducks racked up a 160-73 record, including two conference titles and eight straight NCAA tournament berths. Nobody wanted to play in front of the hostile crowds at Mac Court. In fact, crowd support was so good in Eugene, that when the conference brought back the conference tournament, the event was held in Mac Court. Now, Runge was rightfully let go when she very publicly lost control of her locker room. However, she left Oregon a very good program, and it should not have been difficult to maintain the momentum.

So in came one of Oregon's greatest players, Bev Smith, to man the sideline, and the slow decline began. Like Runge, Smith was also on the sideline for eight years, but only managed to finish in the upper half of the conference twice, making only one NCAA tournament. That Smith stuck around so long is somewhat of a paradox of the athletic department, investing a lot of money into getting top coaching talent to revamp programs that had either never been successful (volleyball and softball), or simply nonexistant (baseball). The one sport that had a history of performance was left to languish, until back to back seventh place finishes forced a move.

That move, or course, was to hire Paul Westhead. I know what Pat Kilkenny was thinking here. Westhead was a big name hire, a coach who had won NBA and WNBA titles, and also been very successful in the mens' college game at Loyola Marymount. His style was an exciting run and gun, and people would flock to Mac Court to see the "Guru of Go" put triple digits on the scoreboard and lead the Ducks back to the upper half of the conference.

The problem is, of course, that it hasn't worked out that way. Westhead is 42-43 in two-plus seasons in Eugene, and 14 and 31 in conference games. The style hasn't been an attraction, its been a mess of a team that doesn't play defense and is unsuccessful at outscoring teams that are offensively superior (which is almost everyone). After this season plays out to its merciful end, it will mark seven years since Oregon has finished higher than sixth in the conference. Attendance at Oregon womens' games was once the envy of the conference. Now, they're lucky to draw 1500. People will say "give Westhead time," but at almost 73 years of age, Westhead was brought in to be a quick fix, not a long term solution. As it stands now, Scott Rueck at Oregon State is making far more progress much more quickly coming into a far worse situation.

Thing is, womens' basketball at Oregon shouldn't be a hard sell. Oregon has a great history, a national brand, and the best basketball facilities in the conference. Further, unlike some other sports, its not difficult to win by recruiting regionally. Oregon has a great deal of high school talent in girls' basketball, and Runge's success was getting the best players in Oregon (eg Shaquala Williams, Angelina Wolvert, Jenny Mowe), supplementing those with good players from California and that's enough to be a very good team in the conference. Right now, Rueck is getting the pretty good Oregon players. The really good ones, like Schimmel and Russell, are simply leaving the state.

There has never been a better time than now to hit the reset button on Oregon basketball. The Ducks would never put up with this in any other sport, why do so in one that we are actually historically good at. The new arena is a great sell. So is the new Pac-12 media deal, which will have games on ESPN and every game broadcast somewhere.

All that's left is to get the program itself in order. I know that Westhead is a good friend of Pat Kilkenny, but its time to admit that the great experiment failed. Oregon doesn't need a "splashy" hire. The Ducks need to build for the future. When you're looking at one NCAA Tournament appearance in the last decade, there is no quick fix. But getting volleyball, softball, and baseball to the point of being good were a lot tougher than this should be.

The Oregon/UConn game next year will almost certainly be the first Oregon women's game to be shown on ESPN under the new deal. The Ducks almost certainly have no shot to win. But it can be used as a platform to show that Oregon is back to being a player in the women's game.

Or they can continue the status quo, try to outshoot and outrun UConn, and lose by 60.

After all, the only way for spiral to continue further downward is for Oregon State to be seen as the better program. That scenario is dangerously close. What Rob Mullens does (or doesn't do) this offseason will make that determination.

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I lost interest in Oregon women’s hoops when Runge was sacked.

There’s a lot to be said for a cult of personality. Jody was charismatic. You have to be able to sell women’s hoops when you’re not at a school that has a tradition. Bev Smith had the personality of a bowl of soup, and Westhead isn’t exactly magnetic — and couldn’t sustain winning with the best players in the world in his system.

UConn will boatrace this team next year, regardless of who is coaching.

I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.

by benzduck on Jan 31, 2012 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

UConn will boatrace this team next year, regardless of who is coaching.

Of course they will. Thats not the point.

At the pace we’re going, EVERYONE will boatrace this team next year.

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Jan 31, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

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Westhead isn’t exactly magnetic — and couldn’t sustain winning with the best players in the world in his system.

You mean you can’t consistently win when you don’t play defense and just jack up bad shots all game? Wasn’t that why we sacked Ernie?

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Jan 31, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

I submit that Ernie is far more outgoing and charismatic than Westhead.

At least Ernie could recruit a little. Who has Westhead pulled in?

I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.

by benzduck on Jan 31, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

have you ever talked to westhead?

the one thing i can say that man is with no doubt is outgoing. exchange a greeting and expect an hour long conversation.

#88

by pipgras on Jan 31, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Is motorboating involved in this?

If so, I could learn to love it.

There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST

by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 31, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

see, I couldn't go there

discretion being the better part…

scrappy

by Honka Playboy on Jan 31, 2012 3:54 PM PST up reply actions  

good write up

but i dont agree. have you seen hortons nuumbers? 87-92-1 and 28-53 in pac 12 after 3 seasons. should he be fired too? this is the first time westhead is coaching a ncaa womens team. give him 4 years.

#88

by pipgras on Jan 31, 2012 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

Horton was starting a program from scratch in one of the toughest conferences in the nation

and he has already led them to the postseason and turns in top recruiting classes year after year. We had no right to expect anything for five years. He’s already made us relevant.

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Jan 31, 2012 11:17 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I rec'd and I don't even care about baseball

"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin

by haveasoda on Jan 31, 2012 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

thanks for the write-up.

It would be nice if the Women’s team was dominant. If it was though, people only have a finite attention span. Do you think that the University could get strong attendance for everything if all their programs were competitive?

The answer is “Yes, yes they could”

"I used to play sports. Then I realized you can buy trophies. Now I'm good at everything." - Demetri Martin

by haveasoda on Jan 31, 2012 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

Wait, wait, wait...

You’re telling me we have a Women’s Basketball team? I had no idea.

But seriously, I went and watched a couple of their games and it was painful to watch. When they can’t shoot they have no defense to keep them in games and when they can shoot they still have to work just as hard to stay in games.

by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 31, 2012 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

two cents

Just think, if we emphasized women’s basketball, one day we might see a duck at one of these

by DuckProfessor on Jan 31, 2012 12:48 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

Dear vaunted moderators of ATQ

the next time you want to publish an article on the following sports, please ban me for the day so I don’t have to see them:

Women’s Basketball
Softball (non post-season)
Tennis
Gymnastics jumping team
Wrestling (HAH!)
Debate.

Sincerely,
Axemen23

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Jan 31, 2012 1:33 PM PST reply actions  

Amazing…

It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck

by JShufelt on Jan 31, 2012 2:03 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

...So this is why the sarcasm font exists.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions  

watch out, I'll do it again

--Dave

Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog

by David Piper on Jan 31, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

I'll let XKCD handle this ome

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Jan 31, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Who is going to time me?

How fast do you think I can type “women’s basketball” thirty-seven point five times?

There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST

by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 31, 2012 2:17 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

DEBATE.

Now THERE’s an idea.

I debated for all four years of undergrad, which was not at UO. One of the absolute best rounds I ever had was against a team from the UO. I don’t remember who they were — it’s been quite a while — but I remember thinking that they were awesome, and that the round we had was spectacular.

Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall

by ProbablyMonty on Jan 31, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I actually loved this article, depressing though it was. It reminded me of the old times.

I’m one of those who have drifted away through lack of time and energy and commitment from Women’s basketball news. I see the scores on occasion, and that’s about it. I definitely feel there’s certainly a “in a rut” factor that impedes the feelings of hope, of feeling like this is going somewhere, starting fresh.

None of that makes what the women do any less important, as they play their hearts out, I’m sure, to the best of their ability. They may not be elite, but we can say the same about the football program for much of its history.

Thanks for covering this, Dave! I feel much more interested in following them more closely now.

Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!

by gamedaytribe on Jan 31, 2012 6:49 PM PST reply actions  

Glad to hear some of you feel the way I do

Women’s basketball is my second favorite college sport, but I have completely lost interest in the Ducks. I’ve only been to three games this season, and they look just like last year. I don’t mind rooting for a struggling team, but I need to have the feeling that they’re going somewhere, and this team just doesn’t provide that.

I find the style of play incredibly frustrating to watch. It reminds me of someone playing a basketball video game against a computer-controlled opponent. Only we’re the AI, and we get schooled by anybody with a little experience. The coaching staff doesn’t seem to make adjustments. It’s like a good team taking a night off and “playing down” to the level of their opponents with sloppy defense and lots of long jumpers. Only we’re not a good team in the first place.

I can’t remember the last time we upset a good team. They seem to win only when they have a clear talent advantage. A couple of the wins this year have been slightly better in that regard. Even against “bad” teams, we’ll often get worse looks than the opponent and only eke out wins because our scorers are slightly more talented over 100+ possessions.

I don’t blame the current players, who are clearly putting in the effort. I respect Westhead’s accomplishments, but at a certain point, you have to look at the results and say he’s clearly not getting it done. If you look at the standings and the box score, it looks like he’s doing kind of a bad job. If you watch the games, it looks like he’s doing a terrible job.

by jambo on Jan 31, 2012 8:30 PM PST reply actions  

Very nice, Dave. I would love to see the women’s basketball team get back to respectability.

Defending maligned chants since 2009

by Gorbachav5 on Feb 1, 2012 10:23 AM PST reply actions  

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