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Is this the worst month ever for Washington football fans?

Was thinking about the news that's broken recently this month, and I think that this might be the worst month in the history of Washington football fandom. Maybe even the worst couple of months. And you think nothing could be as bad as 0-12, right? Well, maybe; I think it's a lot worse when you think you're good and then you find out you fail compared to knowing how bad you are and then, well, realizing that. But even then, this Washington team this year was worse in a lot of ways to that 0-12 team, so that's not exactly a fallback.

(and yes, this is exactly how I diss other teams - by bringing up stuff that's actually happening instead of events that happened 70 years ago).

Anyway, if you're interested, more explaining after the jump.

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First off, we have the bowl game. Washington gave up more points than anyone else had in a bowl game ever. (though thanks, Clemson, for messing that up). More yards, more points, more embarrassment than ever. It was also the worst defensive game in the modern history of Washington and one of the worst defensive games in the history of college football. Because of who was playing in it (RG3) it also meant it was one of the highest-rated non-BCS games this season, so not only did Washington do this, they did it in front of 5 million viewers and even more folks who saw the highlights later.

For a fanbase who remembers the Don James era of Husky football and longs to get back to the days of smashmouth hardcore defenses, this must have been about the worst thing to see.

In addition to that, we have Mike Leach getting hired at WSU. This took up the national and local media for a good two weeks. Washington's used to being the big brother, but Bill Moos utterly outclassed them on this and immediately made fans start thinking about how threatening that rivalry is right now - especially with the defense as weak as it is. Everyone in the conference was excited for Leach to come in, WSU has massively more donations now (including the single largest donation in the history of the school), their star is rising hard and Washington has to watch that.

Then 4 of 5 top recruits from Washington turn Washington down. Some actively diss Washington, saying that they were insulted by how they were treated. Others just claim that it's because Washington has all these statements of where they want to go, whereas other schools can point to where they are right now. In any case, that's pretty horrible.

The best recruiter for Washington gets poached by...Jim Mora, who takes the job in UCLA. So Mora, who has said his dream job is coaching at UW, goes to another team and starts taking recruits and recruiters from Washington with him.

Then we have Oregon winning the Rose Bowl. Not via luck, not because of a poor opponent, but because they were the better team and the best team in the Pac-12, against a great Wisconsin team. Now the Washington fan's prior scathing insult of 'when's the last time you won a rose bowl haw haw' is empty; the best they can come up with is that they've won more.

And here's the best part - after firing Holt essentially before he got on the plane back home, they hired a new DC...who is a second-generation Duck. And another coach who is also a Duck. Now they have to start accepting that they've got these players who grew up and played for Oregon (and in Justin Wilcox's case, is the son of a player for Oregon) and start saying how great it is while having to suppress their hatred of the Ducks.

Finally: Montlake stadium is destroyed. Demolished, literally. Can't get more symbolic than that.

I'm trying to think of a worse set of gutpunches to a fanbase than the above and am failing; at least with the 0-12 season you had the light at the end of the tunnel saying that Ty was gone. With this there's at best the hope that an ex-Duck will improve your team considerably while other teams in the conference take big ssteps forward, including the rivals of Washington.


Full confession: I am a Husky fan too. Not a big one, but I don't hate them any more and hope they do well going forward. I will always root for the Ducks first and foremost, but my second favorite team is no longer 'whoever is playing the Huskies this week'

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As a Duck living in Husky country for the past 5 Years

I don’t hate the huskies at all… But I think it’s because their fanbase had their teeth taken out during these crap years and it’s been nice to enjoy the silence of the dawgs in the presence of a Duck fan.

I will give the Seattle area props for one thing…. their fanbase is AMAZING. It’s surprising how the fans support Seattle area teams. For example, uw is a proud football program and have high expectations so you would think when a team goes 0 -12 as they did, their attendance would go down the crapper. They actually averaged 44k+ in attendance during that season… simply amazing.

by skyo12 on Jan 6, 2012 12:14 PM PST reply actions  

Well...I think that's more Huskies than Seattle

I’ve been living in Seattle since 97, so I feel ya.

Most Seattle people are pretty apathetic to teams; the Mariners have hit record low attendances except when teams like NYY or Boston have shown up. The Seahawks haven’t been much better, though they’re close. The Sounders actually got more people to games than the Mariners did most times.

Husky fans do show up much more loyally though. I think that’s probably true of all college sports, one way or another – that long-term loyalty through thick and thin.

Still, this last month pretty well sucked in almost every way; the only thing that it didn’t have was an NCAA or player scandal. Heck, I even forgot to mention that their all-time leading RB is leaving too.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 6, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

Only once, but it’s great. It’s about as close to a college football experience as any pro game is.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 6, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It IS more Huskies than Seattle. UW football has a very long tradition locally,

and the college fans never abondoned the Huskies for the pro Team.
Might want to recall just how large the local alumni base is as well . . .

Most Husky fans are also quite happy w/ the way the new coaching staff is shaping up. Might yet get that Cal DL coach . . .

Best Regards,

PS: I’ve heard & read a LOT about nutjob Duck fans, but you ‘all don’t seem at that way. Have I been fed a line based on some isolated incidents, or do you just screen away the unpleasant ‘stuuf?’

by HuskyInExile on Jan 12, 2012 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

SARK HAS CLOSED THE BORDER!

--Dave

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by David Piper on Jan 6, 2012 12:32 PM PST reply actions  

He likes letting ducks through.

"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt

by axemen23 on Jan 6, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, but

it’s schadenfreude about Fuskies.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 6, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

what's

funny is I went on the dawgs website to see the reaction to the hirings, and they were very happy. But they seemed to go out of their way not to mention Oregon at all. They both had Pacific Northwest or Pac 10 roots.
Wouldn’t even acknowledge where they went to college.

by KDean75 on Jan 6, 2012 12:53 PM PST reply actions  

Not so; I saw many references to their origins, and no one I know cares a whit.

Now that your program is producing good coaches we’re more than happy to hire them!

by HuskyInExile on Jan 12, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Fans Ruminating over who they could find to replace the great NHolt over at the

DogPound site a few days back were seriously attempting to conjure up what it would take to hire Nick Aliotti away from Oregon to become Waaaa’s D coordinator.

Must be very thin air up that far North or somethin’.

by ConfofChamps on Jan 6, 2012 12:56 PM PST reply actions  

To be fair

Aliotti is almost criminally underpaid at this point. I know he wasn’t that great earlier in his career (or at least was inconsistent) but he’s been a great coach since Kelly has been here and the two work really well together. And he’s only getting like 300k a year.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 6, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I just looked it up.

I was under the impression Aliotti in particular, was paid better than that. But you are pretty close to right on. According to the Register Guard, Aliotti makes a base salary of $150,000. Other sources (thanks Phil) guarantee him another $205,000. His bonus for making the Rose bowl and winning the Rose Bowl totalled $50,000 (25K + 25K).

So this year Aliotti’s take home pay, and the end of the year adding in guarantees and bonuses is: $405,000.

He is underpayed for what he produces. And I also know some of us believe that the reason he wasn’t that great (or inconsistent) earlier in his career was a direct result of following the orders of his previous boss.

by ConfofChamps on Jan 6, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder what Chip's bonus was

for winning the RB. Did the source in RG list that as well?

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by daisyduck on Jan 6, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I would think that's the case

Given how well they’ve produced since Kelly has been coach I think it’s clear that Aliotti is doing a lot better with the hands-off approach and being allowed to do his own thing.

I also think that those ‘other sources’ would total up very, very fast if he were at all interested in leaving.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 6, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

"Criminally underpaid?"

Yeah, a six-figure salary for an assistant football coach at a public institution is just horrifying.

Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.

by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Compared to the other coaches in the pac-12 and given his success

Yes, that’s very much underpaid.

If you were making x and you should be making 2x, that’s being criminally underpaid. If you were also the best performing coach in the last 3 seasons in your conference, that’s even worse.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 9, 2012 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Times are changing. Either keep up or watch us hire your guys.

I’m not trying to be harsh here; just new facts of life in the Pac-12. It is no accident that Leach and RichRod and Wilcox are moving out our way . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 12, 2012 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Two things.

First, they’re getting a new stadium. So I don’t think they’re too worried about losing the old one.

Second, Wilcox and Sirmon were great hires. The huskies will be back, and it will be soon. I give it five years at most before Uw-UO is the defacto Pac-12 North Championship game.

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by Takimoto on Jan 6, 2012 1:35 PM PST reply actions  

I agree 100%

I think Wilcox is a very good hire, and Sirmon is a great recruiter. Both are sorely needed, especially on defense.

At the same time, as a fan you have to start saying ‘they have ties to the Northwest’ and random justifications. It sucks for ’em.

I think that they’re one of the better pairs of hires they could do. That being said, I’m not nearly as concerned about Wilcox as other folks are; while he has beaten the Ducks twice, technically, only one of those games was a defensive beatdown. The other almost had DT in the comeback. And they also leave out Tennessee’s performance against Oregon – and right now at least Tennessee is a lot closer to the talent level that Wilcox will have compared to Boise State.

On the stadium: yes, they’re getting a new one. If we blew up Autzen that wouldn’t make you a bit sad, especially if you had lost to the Huskies as the final game in Autzen ended? That’d make me sad.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 6, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

The reason for Duck fans to worry about Wilcox & new Husky Def Coaches

isn’t that he has some magic anti-Duck scheme, it’s that he will install a solid scheme, then do a better job at recruiting and developing players to fit it.

That said, I have no illusions about being to stop your offense, or even slow it down very soon. In all probability our next win against you will need your assistance in turnovers, and maybe a couple key players being out (which I will NOT hope for). AND some lucky breaks.

by HuskyInExile on Jan 12, 2012 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

well, given that we've had to endure ...

… Probation Nation
… Lynn Nance
… Bob Bender
… 0-12
… Ty Willingham
… a QB with a Brain Tumor
and
… a S turned into a quadriplegic in a game

I’d say, no, we’ve had worse individual months.

As for your “negative points” – it is hard to call some of those things negatives. The recruiting hurts, but the Alamo bowl probably helped our national perception more than hurt it and definitely put Keith Price on the map. The coaching hires are viewed very positively given their stature. Leach has nothing to do with UW. And Husky Stadium is getting rebuilt just as other stadiums have. Not sure how that registers as a bad thing. I’d say Husky Fans are excited by most of the non-recruiting issues you cited above.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Jan 7, 2012 8:42 AM PST reply actions  

Husky fans are excited by Leach being hired?

I certainly didn’t read that in the comments. “worried” would be a better adjective. Similarly, the amount of reaching to try and defend Wilcox as a Duck was pretty amusing.

I guess, as a Husky fan, the Alamo bowl was not a showcase of Price on the national stage – it was a showcase of ineptitude that had never been seen before. It was an embarrassment. The other Husky fans I talk to say similar things. I’m sure some fans are half-full types, but quite a few that I talked to were very doom and gloomy.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 7, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

sure, the D was embarrassing ...

… but everyone already knew that and it was the Alamo Bowl. What nobody saw coming was Keith Price completely overshadowing Robert Griffin. In the context of a completely overhauled D staff, it doesn’t feel so bad. The fact that UW is showing up in way-to-early Top 25 polls across the country speaks to that.

As for Mike Leach, I guess I don’t understand why we’d be any more worried about him than we would any other coach hired at any other Pac 12 school. He hasn’t stolen any commits, he hasn’t raided our staff, he hasn’t beaten anyone and he still has to live in Pullman.

Damn, my eyeball tastes good.
@chrislandon

by Gekko Mojo on Jan 12, 2012 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Because he's good and he's the coach of a rival's team

If Oregon State hired Urban Meyer I’d be concerned. Even if he hadn’t poached anyone yet, even if he hadn’t won a game – I’d know immediately that things just got a lot harder for Oregon.

Same thing here. Leach might not poach anyone immediately, but he will make the apple cup a significantly harder game right away.

If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score

by kalon on Jan 12, 2012 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Baylor in the Sunbelt?

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Jan 14, 2012 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes, so are all the Cali & AR schools . . .

maybe you are a youngster that doesn’t know how the schools down South refer to us . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 14, 2012 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah, I been a Duck since '71. I wuz jus' funnin' you a little.

"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY

by Famous Duck on Jan 15, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Chgip Kelly has been doing that to us too . . .

Hope our new DC can slow down your scoring machine . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 16, 2012 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

From KVAL....love the headline....

http://www.kval.com/news/offbeat/And-the-Ducks-werent-even-there—137136603.html

"Trick or Treat is not just some remark you chant idly like the Lord's Prayer, it's a social contract."
-Bart Simpson

by vegasduck on Jan 14, 2012 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

Glorious! Choice! Outstanding!

Hope you enjoy this viusual sequence as much after Autzen becomes the second loudest stadium in the Pac-12.

and also cheerfully wish your entire school and athletic program great success, but less so when we compete head to head.

PS: Hope you watch the Pac-12 crew championship regatta . . .

by HuskyInExile on Jan 14, 2012 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

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