Weekend Quack Fix: LaMichael is taking his talents to the NFL; returning starters and Oregon dunk contest
by Matt Daddy on Jan 7, 2012 8:00 AM PST
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PrintWell, we've entered the most dreaded part of the year for Oregon Duck football fans; the offseason. Everyone needs to say a prayer, light a candle and cross their fingers that this will not be like the offseasons of the last couple of years.
- The big story yesterday was that LaMichael James officially entered the NFL draft. Not really a big surprise considering everything he's accomplished here, and I'm sure most Duck fans wish him well at the next level. It will be interesting to see where he lands in the draft. Obviously, we all know he's tough enough to be a feature back, but the NFL is a different animal and a lot of teams look for a guy that can be more of a bruiser. With LMJ's attitude and work ethic, I have no doubt he'll catch on to a team and be a success.
- News from up North recently has the poodles picking up 2 former Ducks to try and band-aid their broken defense. Ted Miller thinks that it won't take long for Wilcox and Sirmon to get acquainted with their new surroundings on enemy territory. What's your opinion of 2 Ducks coaching for the huskies? Does it bother you? Do you care? Personally, I agree with Miller in that this is business, and I'm glad a couple of former Ducks are advancing themselves professionally. Besides, Jerry Allen is a Beaver and that's never bothered me.
- Speaking of coaching hires, this is a great pick up for Ucla. I think Jim Mora Jr will do a better job in Pasadena than a lot of people expect.
- With LMJ moving on, the focus has to turn to KJB, and whether he'll turn pro too. Kenjon seems to have the intangibles that translate better to the NFL game with his ability to catch out of the backfield and play multiple positions. He may need a year as a feature back though to showcase those skills.
- Between now and National Signing Day (or as it's known as at the Oregonian, the last day before Oregon can buy the next year's National Recruiting Package) there will be a lot of recruiting news. The biggest news this week was that Thomas Johnson, one of the top receivers in the country, decommitted from Texas and will go on an official visit to Oregon. I'm sure this is just the beginning of what will be a lot of fast moving parts and players taking interest in one of the up and coming programs in the country.
- If you're planning on heading to the Oregon vs Cal game this Sunday, make sure to stick around at halftime and check out the interesting Dunk Contest they'll be putting on.
- Lastly, Miller has a post about the returning starters for Pac 12 teams. USC comes in first with a scary 19 (not that it helped ASU much this year with all the injuries they had and injuries at USC will hurt more because of their depth issues). Of note though is the fact that Stanford is only returning 12. I really think Stanford drops off big time next year. Even though Shaw won coach of the year, his "actual coaching" and not relying on Andrew Luck to carry the offense, left a lot to be desired. Or maybe he'd like to try another 40+ yard field goal to win the BCS game and prove me wrong.
That's all the Quack I got. Serious, I ain't got no more Quack. Talk to Tako, I'm sure he's holding, that dude always has extra Quack lying around.
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I think it says a lot about Chip Kelly that we're starting to recruit guys like DAT and Thomas Johnson more consistently
Then you look at next years class and we’ve already pulled in a 5 star? Good times on the recruiting trails
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 7, 2012 8:32 AM PST reply actions
I think it was on the 247 site some Texas fans started wishing injury on Johnson after he decommited
The Legend
They are really pissed about Johnson.
They are definitely irritated (to say the least) that Oregon is starting to recruit well in Texas.
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
oooooh, the pleasure i got reading that!
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 9:55 AM PST up reply actions
Utah getting their asses handed to them by Georgia Tech, 24 - 10, late in the third.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Only cfb on.....Utah making a comeback...24-17
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Sorry
I know it is the Pac-12 and I am rooting for Utah, but non BCS games after new years is an abomination.
The game has already happened. Utah won
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 7, 2012 9:42 AM PST up reply actions
Oh know, I agree with you, but the Utah game happened before the new year.
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 7, 2012 9:46 AM PST up reply actions
Wow… *Oh no, Saturday mornings I guess
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 7, 2012 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
OMG SPOILERS
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I can't find the game on anywhere.
Are you sure your not in a time warp?
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
i still relish every chance i get to watch oregon's two holiday bowl wins v. texas and okstate
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 9:56 AM PST up reply actions
ooh, you mean these stupid bowl like the Compass Bowl... AGREED!
i still need coffee
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
exactly what i was gonna say.
not only did an oregon state beaver pull the Ducks out of the dark ages but his form coach Dee Andros actually STARED in a commercial promoting Oregon Football. It was total class, and the beginning of the end of the Suffering.
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 9:53 AM PST up reply actions
Barner
I will admit, it very much concerns me that he might go, and where that would leave us. We know Barner and LMJ were best friends, and we know that Barner has at least seriously looked at his draft status. DAT is awesome but I can’t see him carrying the main load, and what we have beyond him is uncertain. Hoping like hell Barner stays, i guess we will find out in a week or less.
The Oregon Ducks are your 2012 Rose Bowl Champions!!!!
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
by QuackinAK on Jan 7, 2012 9:16 AM PST reply actions 12 recs
MAKE THIS GREEN!
OREGON DUCKS ROSE BOWL CHAMPIONS - Time to drink Dr Pepper and ship stuff with UPS!!!!!
Follow @MattyFnRaider
ONE NATION UNDER AL
Respect the reputation or it's an altercation.
Statues
Is it time to crank out some statues to put them around Autzen?
Top 3 needed:
Joey
Bellotti
LMJ
Sorry- Chip gets a statue before Bellotti
More conference championships, more Rose Bowl wins, more BCS games… In 3 years versus 14.
by Duckfreak on Jan 7, 2012 9:55 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
No.
No no no. Why are people so willing to dismiss those who got us here?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
I agree.
Bellotti got us to where we are now. Chip may be the better coach, but Bellotti’s accomplishments are far superior at this point considering where the program was when he got it.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 7, 2012 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Coming off a PAC-10 title and Rose Bowl birth?
Yeah- team was in shambles…
by Duckfreak on Jan 7, 2012 5:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Don't forget, MB was the architect of the "mini-Suffering" between 2002-2006.
One ten win team and a bunch of six-loss underachievers, none of whom could win a bowl game.
Then he hired Chip, and became a genius again.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
I cannot even fathom why you would think it
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
I cannot fathom how you can think this way.
Bellotti was a rock solid coach for a very long time. He turned down OHIO STATE to stay with his team. That man is arguably the greatest Duck ever, and you should not dismiss him so easily.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
by QuackinAK on Jan 7, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
rec'd, wish i could rec it twice.
excellent title. best point ever one the ohio state.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
1 outright conference title in 14 years
2002-2006 seasons with very talented teams. Meh- he was okay. Nothing more.
by Duckfreak on Jan 7, 2012 5:08 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Wouldn't be where we are now without him.
For several reasons. Why so quick to dismiss what he means to the program?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Not dismissing- putting the stats out
The year before and after he was head coach team went to Rose Bowl. 14 years he coached they didn’t. I honestly believe he was pretty mediocre. If CK didn’t come aboard in 2007- I honestly believe things end badly for him at UO. Remember the 7-6 2006 team that quit on him and lost bowl 38-7 to BYU? Or the 5-6 2004 team that lost last 4 games? Numerous blowout civil war losses, end of season collapses?
by Duckfreak on Jan 7, 2012 5:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
So the Fiesta doesn't count?
The 01 and 08 Holiday Bowls, both impressive wins over quality opponents don’t count?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
Of course it counts
I said he won 1 outright PAC-10 title in 14 seasons. Where did I say it didn’t count? My challenge with his legacy is how poorly he performed afterwards. I didn’t say awful- I said mediocre.
So Chip gets a "statue" now even though he could be "mediocre" for a few years after?
Why should Brooks be considered in this group? He won 1 outright title then bolted, and he had many, many mediocre-or-worse seasons. Mike brought us our most consistent stretch of .500-or-better seasons ever, our first 10-win-seasons, and laid the foundations of the success we are enjoying right now. He’s the one who started recruiting nationally, the one who really started raising the profile, the one who did so much for this program yet you are basing things in a relative manner on what is happening NOW. He’s the one, by the way, who had the foresight to listen to suggestions and hire a completely unknown offensive coordinator from New Hampshire after Crowton bolted.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 7:00 PM PST up reply actions
Brooks gets a caretaker statue.
If it hadn’t been for Brooks, we might be competing in the Big Sky conference by now.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Turnaround from 2007 to 2011
I don’t think inheriting a team that won the PAC-10 the year before and winning the PAC 10 1 time in the next 14 years is very impressive. .500+ seasons? Meh- he was ok- lots of 6 and 7 win teams. Cool…
The only reason the dramatic and unmistakeable improvement starting in 2007 occurred was because someone a lot more talented then him came to the program.
You could argue the only other 3 good seasons were largely to do with a hungry young Jeff Tedford. And the trainwreck that occurred 2002-2006 certainly is hard to ignore after he left.
I like Mike- but am not under the misconception that being mediocre at Oregon with the resources available is something to hold up on a pedestal.
For example- WSU and Mike Price won more PAC 10 titles then MB while both coached at the same time.
Bruce Snyder, Ty Willingham , Rick Neuheisel won as many.
This is giving MB 14 seasons compared to these other guys all far fewer years during his tenure… Then of course Petey completely dominating the conference during his watch… Dude was very average.
by Duckfreak on Jan 7, 2012 8:03 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Chip has only been here 3 years as the HC
And it has been glorious. He inherited a team that had had multiple 10 win seasons. What did Bellotti have? Zero 10 win seasons. During Bellotti’s tenure no other Pac 10 coach had as many wins as him. Zero. What happens if Chip bolts in a year or two? Does he still get a statue? Does he get one before the man with the most wins in program history? The man that completely revamped his entire system, when the Pac 10 was full of his former assistants, and consequently everyone knew his system. Bellotti is the all-time winningest coach in the history of the program, and as such HE GETS A STATUE WELL BEFORE CHIP!!!! To say different is to defy logic. Chip will get his too, and deservedly so, but not before Bellotti.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Very average as opposed to what?
It’s an extremely myopic view you are taking.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
lots of 6 and 7 win teams
Lots? 4 years out of 14 is a lot? If you’re going to argue this, at least get your facts right.
I mean, the guy had a nearly .700 win percentage. Rich Brooks brought Oregon out of the suffering, and Mike Bellotti took the Ducks from a plucky upstart to a national contender. I think this is a significantly undervalued part of his tenure.
While now the Beavers are known as Lunchpail U, this is what Oregon was in the 90s. It is very hard to shift from that attitude to that of national contender, but Bellotti was able to slowly make that change. The struggles of 2002-2004 are examples of that, but he got through that and it was HIS decision to hire Chip Kelly, which again shows what a great head coach he was.
Is Chip Kelly a better coach? Yeah, he is, by a pretty decent margin. But to call Bellotti average is utterly fucking ridiculous.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Best two things Bellotti did- #2 hire Tedford, #1 hire CK
In reality CK inherited a 7-6 team with a shattered qb whod been benches after another Bellotti idiotic platoon QB system failed to develop him. A team that hadn’t won a conference title in 5 years- and really only had one season in 5 that wasn’t terribly below expectations.
Like flicking a light switch the broken qb became a heisman favorite and the team beat USC and was in line to win PAC 10. Now 5 years into this unprecidented run- it’s hard for some folks to remember just how bad this program was the 5 years prior to his arrival.
by Duckfreak on Jan 8, 2012 9:04 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
I get you point around raised expections and what is good vs bad.
As someone who saw a 7-6 season as a success back in the day it is all relative. Perhaps a better way stating things is Brooks showed us we could win a big game, and get to a big bowl, Bellotti showed us we could do this but now do it consistently. That may not so like much of a difference, but showing that Oregon was always in the hunt, was not a flash in the pan, is the foundation upon what CK built our mansion. MB had his faults, but we arn’t here today with out him.
(PERS thing aside which I think is F’d)
For Oregon, King Kelly, and St Quack!
Um. That 2007 season was coached by Bellotti.
Yeah, Chip Kelly made Dennis Dixon what he was in 2007, but you realize that Chip Kelly didn’t take over as head coach until 2009, right? His tenure has been three years, not five.
Things like that.
Actually quite the opposite.
You seem to forget how generally bad Oregon football was BEFORE Belotti. Pick any 14-year span before Belotti and tell me it’s better than his tenure. You seem to be under the impression that what is happening now would have happened faster under a different coach. Interesting. Name another coach who would have turned away offers from Ohio State, Notre Dame, USC, and others and stay here to build the program, expand recruiting around the country, work the boosters and alumni for more funding, etc. Before Belotti, 10-win seasons were never-achieved pipe dreams, finishing #2 (or even in the top 10) was laughable, and finishing 7-6 was an achievement rather than a disappointment. And your assertion that there was “one season in 5” that wasn’t “terribly below expectations” proves MY point, not yours. What WERE these expectations and if they were indeed so high, why was that? Oh yeah, DUE TO BELOTTI’S SUCCESS. I don’t remember there being any sort of consensus that there would be 10+ win seasons every year after the Fiesta Bowl, but if there were, it’s due to Belotti.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 8, 2012 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I really feel the people making these arguments
saying that Belotti wasn’t very good simply didn’t live through the bad years. If you didn’t follow the team before 2000, I don’t think you can fully appreciate how awesome Belotti was and what a solid coach Brooks is.
It’s also important to note that these guys were building the program in days when it was much harder—before the 85 scholarship limit, when Autzen sucked, when we were a laughing stock.
If anyone trashing Belotti is a long-time fan, I’d be really curious to hear a further justification given the reality of the program at that time.
by eloomis20 on Jan 8, 2012 10:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This.
Bellotti’s teams raised the level of play, and expectations. Yes, we grumbled about the five- and six-loss seasons, but compared to the years when we could barely win five games, it was hard to grumble much. (I’ve sometimes referred to the years 2002-2006 as the “mini-suffering”, but that’s solidly tongue-in-cheek.)
I think it’s possible to appreciate Chip Kelly’s stratospheric elevation of the program without trashing MB’s similar elevation of what he inherited from Brooks. Anybody who says “Bellotti sucked” has a very odd sense of entitlement.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
by benzduck on Jan 8, 2012 11:32 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Hey now. It was 38-8 as I recall.
Don’t make it any worse than it was.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Disagree.
There were some talented players on those teams, but top to bottom – or even just through the full starting lineup, those teams weren’t close to now.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 7, 2012 7:38 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously, it is absolutely no comparison. Look at the linebackers during that time period. It was a joke.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
BACON IS NEVER A JOKE
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
how many shared titles?
and what was his BCS record? hint: undefeated
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Well, one game isn’t much of a sample size…
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 8, 2012 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Imediate future...Statues are for those that have left....
Eventually yes Chip will get one and Brooks has the field named after him; so he has that.
Bellotti traded his statue for a $400k annual pension from the state of Oregon.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
um, HELLO, Brooks.
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 9:58 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
oh yell yeah!
When brooks got here their offices where the tunnels of autzen for christs sake. when he left we had the Cas Center and we have never stopped. Brooks fought his butt off to get anyone to listen to him say that facilities are important. Statue, without question!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
id also be pretty upset without a statue of Bill Musgrave
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
I know he's a great commenter and all
but I don’t think he deserves a statue on the U of O campus.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 7, 2012 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
If he gets one I get one.
Just sayin’.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
by benzduck on Jan 7, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As long as we don't end up with those freaky statues
Like they have in Texas.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 7, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Brooks, Knight, Fouts
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
excellent call on Fouts
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
We can just get one for all of them
With volume discounts!!
Taxes don't kill jobs.
by shenanigans on Jan 7, 2012 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
So THIS is what happens to HS football players in Texas
when they tell Mack Brown they’re leaving the state.
Sort of like a modern day Narnia.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Jan 7, 2012 11:58 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
All American Bowl is on in 20 minutes there will be some Oregon commits playing in the game & potential commits playing
The Legend
Armstead isn’t announcing today, he isn’t going to USC he decommited from there a while back. His final 3 are us, Cal, & Notre Dame(I think, could be Auburn)
The Legend
i understand that he decommited to usc
and that’s great as far as visiting oregon but doesn’t he still list USC at the top of his list?
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:49 AM PST up reply actions
do you know where to stream the all american bowl?
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:08 AM PST up reply actions
Finally found one.
Takes a little while to load though
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
by CaDuck on Jan 7, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
nice job stud. i gave up about 15 minutes ago. =)
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Question: You can take five players from any other team in CFB and add them to the Ducks.
You cannot choose two players from the same team. They can be offense or defense. Who would you take?
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 7, 2012 9:45 AM PST reply actions
Matt Barkley (solid backup to DT- makes two toughest games easier
Keith Price- solid scout team qb. Wrecks Huskies season. Monte Ball- I liked him. 2 SEC Dlineman.
by Duckfreak on Jan 7, 2012 9:59 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
J. Johnson
Ngata
Olshansky
T.J. Ward
J. Stewert
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:05 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think the 'any other team from CFB' was missed
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
i stopped reading at 'team'. i was very excited.
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
marquis lee
im still bummed he didn’t come to oregon.
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
Why has no-one picked
Barkeveous Mingo? Just for the name…
Or Munchie LeGeaux (who was once committed to UO) for that matter.
You can’t spell anatidaephobia without DAT.
I thought an interesting one could be Tavon Austin from WVU
Guy runs like a bat out of hell
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 7, 2012 11:42 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Fire Jerry Allen!!!
/runsandhides
/didntreallymeanit
/thepickstillthegreatestcallever
Taxes don't kill jobs.
i hate picking texas teams....
but i have SMU in this one, what do you guys think?
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
They should not play games this crappy
After new years.
by Duckfreak on Jan 7, 2012 10:18 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
so true, so true. but it's on the pool so had to care a tiny bit.
June Jones is from Portland?
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
A startling number of great football coaches are from Oregon, or played at UO.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
as you at USC know better than anyone, you southern thieves! (joke)
i just didn’t realize June Jones went to high school in portland. Wow, he actually attended oregon for one year. somewhere deep within me i must have known that.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:45 AM PST up reply actions
Deep in the woods
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
by Famous Duck on Jan 7, 2012 3:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
so Rabbit, what's up with Arik Armstead?
what’s the word down in LaLa Land?
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:46 AM PST up reply actions
Cal probably.
USC hasn’t been a player for him for weeks. He will not pick USC and I doubt there will even be a USC hat on the table. Doubt he picks Oregon either tho, sorry.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
Shaq thompson will probably go there as well. Another great recruiting class and Cal will do nothing with it
Yeah,
their recruiting has been great for the past few seasons, but their inept offense has killed them every time. They are really turning into one of the perennial underachievers of the collegiate football world (such as Clemson, UCLA, Texas A&M etc…)
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
Shaq was born a Cal Bear, no surprise.
What’s obnoxious is they’re going to steal a bunch of D-Line guys from us that we really really need, who would play for us as freshmen. I don’t understand it.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
as far as im concerned...
the season is over. the only thing left to find out is who is the actual SEC champion.
"i love my grandma, but bret musburger needs to retire."
No matter the outcome of Monday's game, it's still LSU.
Even if Alabama wins, then they have a victory on a neutral site (or at least, an ostensibly neutral site) whereas LSU has a win on Bama’s turf. The better resume still belongs to the Tigers.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Jan 7, 2012 11:09 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
and i was thinking about it yesterday and i realized that...
what the bcs essentially did this year, is create a rematch but to do so in a way that both schools make absolutely no money off of it. think about it. the money alabama made off tickets alone for the first game was huge, but now with the bcs in charge both schools will likely LOSE money on their trip. This is truly astounding to me! In fact, it sound like a professional way of not calling plunder plunder.
outsourcing the ncaa’s biggest source of potential revenue is unbelievable to me. Sound like a mafia racket.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I saw somewhere that if Bama wins
LSU will have defeated three teams that won a BCS game this year.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 7, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
no kidding!
i live in sacramento not too far from his high school. i wish i would have gone to some of his games with my Ducks gear on, or an oregon flag to wave around, i dont know. wish i could do something, but word is he is heading to Cal. He stopped me on the street one day just because i was wearing some oregon gear. Of course i told him how much i loved the university, the clean air and how nice everyone is up north. “The future of college football is in Eugene. GO DUCKS!!” He has a really nice smile.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
Don Essig is a baver too, you know.
He was their freaking Rally Squad captain in the late 50s.
The "Beano Cook" of ATQ
OK DUCK FANS, REALITY CHECK TIME
Cal is our new #1 enemy in conference. They should have been already but thankfully they have underachieved. The new facilities are about to open and the talent level is almost off the charts great. We know first hand that Tedford can coach so Cal will rise, and rise fast.
get your tickets to the new memorial stadium game vs. Cal as soon as you can. That’s where we will need a loud presence. (and the environment/view is awesome)
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
No, they are not. Their talent level is nowhere near USC, or even us across the board.
If Tedford proves he can remember how to coach a QB, I might become a bit worried.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
that's really the key. a QB.
it’s the only thing they are missing. but they will get one
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
and i speak of the northern division, not the whole conference. sorry, i didn't specify that.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Another year or two in the top 10 recruiting and they will be pretty close
Their DL is already much deeper than USC’s
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by Duckfreak on Jan 7, 2012 11:38 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
nope.
all they need is a QB. but they have more talent than any other of our northern division rivals. if they get a QB, the north is no longer an Oregon/Stanford division and while the pirate will be fun and competitive Cal is set up to be great far more than any other northern team than ours. again, new facilities open this year, we know what those do.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
Potential is one thing,
But being a great team is a whole different concept. So far, Tedford has not shown that (even with a good amount of talent) that he can create a great team.
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what just happened?!?! ANOTHER A lister choosing Cal over Oregon.....
i stand my ground. they need a QB. and he was our offensive cord. for the fiesta bowl victory, he CAN coach. when he took over, that program was a feakin’ clemson taking a clemson! They will be our toughest competition WHEN, not if, when they come together.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
I think you're overstating the effect a good qb would have.
We beat them 43 – 15 this year. All of those A list players really aren’t helping them much on the defensive side of the ball. A QB is their biggest need, but not the only one.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 7, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
i could be.
but im also putting a VERY strong emphasis on the new facilities.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Seastrunk...
If Barner were to leave (allah forbid), do you think he’d be kicking himself? I mean you’d have the chance to finally come out of the shadows of two amazing backs. Not to mention RGIII is out. I know he said he left for other reasons, but if I were him I’d feel like I made a bad decision to leave.
Are you guys concerned with Barner sitting courtside at the Blazers-Lakers game?
Those are probably $500-600 tickets. While it’s totally conceivable his family bought them, they’re not exactly easy to get.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
I think his parents are pretty well off.
They go to a bucnh of games, and Barner drives around campus in a new Camaro with some good looking wheels.
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thought that too...
I know Uncle Phil probably got them to him somehow, but it does raise some eyebrows. Maybe some loophole I’m unaware of.
Just wondering, would you say the same of a white player? What if that was Luck at a game?
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
I would say that of any college student.
Unless they went to USC
Just my opinion,
In this age of agents and sanctions, I would definitely be curious to find out how any player on my team was sitting courtside in the Staples Center. I would imagine RabbitSC feels similarly.
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by CaDuck on Jan 7, 2012 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Give me a little credit.
I know Barner went to Notre Dame HS. That’s a private school. It could have been a Christmas gift. My concern would come less from the cost of the ticket, and more from the fact that it probably takes more to get the courtside seat next to the Lakers bench than calling the box office and paying for it.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
Fair enough. I don't know you, but it's sad. It's the legacy of the NCAA, Reggie Bush, Miami, tOSU
and college football in general, I suppose. I would like to see a an assumption of wealth being the norm, not the assumption of poverty.
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
There is some rumor going around
that the seats are his girlfriends parents (or they bought them for KJB and his gf). Could be no veracity to that, but I just find it weird that if he did get them in a sketchy manner that he would do something so obvious…just completely out there in front of everyone. KJBs personality is very humble, very understated…he’s very religious and we all consider him to be a high-character guy. It just seems unrealistic that he’d do something that wrong.
Stranger things have happened though, so it could be sketchy. Just SO HARD to believe coming from Kenjon.
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It’s not the first time they’ve been there together in those very seats. Brooks just picked it up this time, probably because he’s still mad that we won the Rose Bowl. Remember that, how we won the Rose Bowl? Good times.
Not good times: less than 12 hours later, the guy I sat next to for most of the game, the son of very dear friends, was killed in a car accident. In fact, he died in his Oregon sweatshirt. Joyful hearts to broken hearts in such a short amount of time…it’s been quite a week.
Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.
(Good call, Daisy)
by lovemyducks81 on Jan 7, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
That is tragic... how very sad for the family and friends.
Sympathies.
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Much appreciated.
Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.
(Good call, Daisy)
by lovemyducks81 on Jan 7, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
I am sorry for your loss.
My heart goes out to you and his family.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 7, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
They're the most amazing people
(And fellow section 3 season ticket holders). They’re the kind of people who would be the first to be there if someone else had a much less devastating situation, but who are surprised that the people around them want to step in for them in this time.
Again, the sentiments are much appreciated. (You too, chicagoduck)
Got the shoes. Got the jersey. And finally, got football. Go Ducks.
(Good call, Daisy)
by lovemyducks81 on Jan 7, 2012 1:53 PM PST up reply actions
Can't even fathom it, really.
Walking with them through it has been a shred as painful as their experience, and it’s still pretty dang awful. Prayers are very much appreciated. God has really been working through the whole situation, but that certainly doesn’t make it easy to understand.
Thanks, both Gorby and Daisy.
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by lovemyducks81 on Jan 8, 2012 1:22 AM PST up reply actions
I'm just kinda stunned myself, wondering what it would be like, if I could 'handle' the situation. You brave, girl.
All I can come up with is, I damn sure better appreciate what I’ve got while I’ve got it. If they’re gone, celebrate what I had when I had it, you know?
Hang in there.
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I'm not worried
if for no other reason than it’s totally circumstantial at this point.
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by ProbablyMonty on Jan 7, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
That, and my worrying isn't terribly productive anyway.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Jan 7, 2012 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
BUTSPORTZBYZTMZZTOLDMETHATHEGOTTHOSEFROMWILLLYLESANDTHATOREGONISGOINGTOGETTHEDEATHPENALTYANDTHATCHIPKELLYISSATANSLOVECHILDWITHMARIASHRIVERANDWILLNEVERCOACHAGAINSTARTINGLASTYEAR
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
That one was no surprise.
The next one is SCARY SCARY.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
Oops, well, I think McCarthy's in this quarter.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
God damn Cal, haha.
At least they can coach a good defensive line (but not a whole lot else).
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
I am very happy I get to remain a Sasquatch.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 8, 2012 12:56 AM PST up reply actions
Bullshit. You were supposed to turn in your Bigfoot card months ago.
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No, I only said I'd shave off all my body hair if McCarthy signed with the Ducks.
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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 8, 2012 6:35 PM PST up reply actions
Wow. This guy must have a dragon tattoo too.
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What does Tedford tell these guys?
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 7, 2012 12:13 PM PST up reply actions
Well, he did start by saying he wanted to stay home, so I figured that was was it wasn't Oregon
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
He's from the LA area.
He’s our number one target. DT is our biggest position of need. He would play for us as a freshman. He’s still taking an OV to USC so I won’t kill myself yet but I want to kill myself.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
Was there a chance he wouldn't get to play right away? Might that be it?
Because I’m really mystified at his picking Cal. Kiffin seems a much more likable guy than Tedford (better social skills), and I don’t really see Tedford outrecruiting Kiffin, not with SC’s other advantages.
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
He would play right away at USC.
We have four DTs on the entire team. He would crack the rotation immediately. Start? Probably not. But would he start at Cal? Cal plays a 3-4 defense. USC plays a 4-3! I’m going to be upset about this all day.
It’s not about Tedford. It’s about Tosh.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
What's tragic is that they already have a good defense.
But Zach Maynard is still their QB and nothing about this stellar recruiting class they’re putting together looks to make their offense any better than the squad that could only score 10 points against Texas.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
Exactly..
But at this point, I don’t even have the confidence that Cal’s coaching staff will be able to groom a good qb talent even should they get somebody with potential.
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
um, JOEY HARRINGTON (!!!)
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
How much of that was Harrington, MB, etc? Given Tedford's last decade...
Also, who is the Cal QB coach?
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Tedford is Cal’s QB coach, regardless of official titles. And Cal has had good QBs as recently as 2006. Let’s not pretend that my team has been crap for a decade.
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by norcalnick on Jan 7, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
eeew, im gonna have to REC that.... i feel dirty.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
When compared to the elite teams in the conference
and when taking into account the recruiting classes you’ve had, it’s been crap-ish. Unless your content being in the upper middle of the conference.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 7, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think any Cal fan has been satisfied with the record since the Cam Colvin fumble in 2007. But there’s this weird revision of history where everybody (Cal fans and non-Cal fans alike) act like Tedford didn’t have a 10-2 team in 2004 and co-conference champions in 2006
There are serious questions about Tedford’s ability to lead Cal where the fans think the talent can take the team. But to act like he’s never had high levels of success isn’t true either.
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He turned your program around and had a lot of success early on.
But that’s now 5 years ago. It’s getting to the point where you have to wonder if that success wasn’t an anomaly.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 7, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
Relative to expectations:
Successful years: 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2008
Unsuccessful years: 2005, 2007, 2009, 2010, maybe 2011 (even though everybody predicted ~7 wins)
At this point it’s about an even split. I don’t think anybody knows which years are the anomalies.
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When was he hired?
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 7, 2012 12:43 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't say crap, but they've not exactly dominated the conference, either.
And QB has been Cal’s weakest point, at least that’s the way it’s seemed to me (they had great D even when they lost to us, they were more offensive failures).
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Joey give Tedford a ton of credit, so.....
then Aaron Rodgers… out of nowhere, amiright?
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa, Rogers was gone long before Tedford, right?
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, no, not true..2002
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
not a chance dude.
tedford is know as a QB maker. didn’t he also coach what’s his face, number one QB draft pick at Fresno State…. can’t think of his name.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:35 PM PST up reply actions
david carr?
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
si
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
yep, just did a fact check...
he mentored david carr, and i think, but could not confirm, that he was also part of the Fresno staff that produced Trent Dilfer. (but im not at all sure about dilfer)
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
That is what's so bizarre.
He had a lot of success early in his career and is known as a QB guru, it makes it odd that QB play has been Cal’s move glaring weakness.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 7, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
think of how much better the facilities at oregon are. training wise. He’s aboot to get that at Cal…. i say that is dangerous.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
True.
But at this point USC and Wash are bigger concerns to me.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 7, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
all they need is a QB.....
standing by my statements aboot Cal above.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
Zach Kline is supposed to be the real deal. Of course, we’ve had guys like that before that never turned into the real deal. We’ll just cross our fingers and hope, as always.
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
I know you can’t accurately judge a guy based on one game, but he really wasn’t that impressive in what I saw from him in the UA All American game.
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 7, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
They need a QB, and a whole lot more. They’ve won some very high profile battles the last few years, but that has obscured the fact that Oregon’s had higher rated classes 4 out of the last 5 seasons (Cal moved to 10th in the country over Oregon’s 15th today).
But the high profile battles have made people forget that they’ve failed to put together a team recruiting, and that has shown itself painfully on the field.
It’s nice for them they are getting these recruits, but I’ll start worrying about them when Tedford proves that he still knows how to coach.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
That said...
Cal, because of where it falls on the schedule next year will be a real pain in the ass.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
dont forget that cal’s facilities are going from falling apart awful, to pretty sweet. They will be able to train better.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Being one of the finest public universities in the world isn't exactly a negative.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 12:28 PM PST reply actions
true that. i would love to get into Cal's Boalt Law Program. boy would i ever!
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:29 PM PST up reply actions
Completely agree it's one of finest public or pvt Unis academically
But that can work against some recruits, too (high academic standards). I really laughed at that quote from one recent recruit about tOSU — how it was great because they supported students so well, you couldn’t fail there even if you tried…).
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
Some recruits.
But look also at ’furd and UCLA (which runs right up there in university rankings as well) and the players they get.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 12:42 PM PST up reply actions
I wonder about how much leeway Michigan gives as far as academics sometimes.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
tOSU is a pretty good school too, it's not exactly crap. But I'm guessing their football
players have it a bit easier.
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
i do wonder how a Grant High school student can get the level of academic attention it takes to get into CAL...
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
Become a good football player.
I kid of course.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
Grant is a freak of nature powerhouse of football talent!
i bet they got some set up for them., scholastically. i was just being silly
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Cal’s academic requirements for football players are not quite as high as UCLA and Stanford.
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that's kinda interesting.
i actually agree with it, but how does that get by the school board?
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I think the deal is that a player has to meet minimum UC standards, which are the same across all UCs, from Berkeley all the way down to Riverside. That’s not hard. But then each school can set standards beyond that. UCLA does, to a certain extent.
So yeah, guys probably have to have a 3.0 or something, but they don’t need to have like a 3.7 that you would for Stanford.
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that makes perfect sense.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
i should join an athletic team. do the acceptions work for frisbee golf?
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
im sorry, exceptions
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
nothing?
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
This
Famous story about Jason Kidd needing three tries to get a 700 on his SAT’s, to get into Cal.
Harbaugh lobbied for...I'm thinking 2 or 3 "marginal" players per year, academically.
I’m not clear whether he got them. My guess is this is how Cal gets some leeway as well, from lobbying by the athletic department.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
and Harbaugh did get his concessions. but im sure they aren't to liberal.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Well, "marginal" by Stanford standards is still a quality student.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:03 PM PST up reply actions
true, if not a huge understatement.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
Are you saying it is inconceivable that a Grant High student could qualify for Cal? That’s odd.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
agreed
you can get to any school from anywhere if you work hard enough
--Dave
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Yes indeed.
Didn’t Obwdsfdsfdf go to UCLA from Grant?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Well, Ndamukong did get into Nebraska...er, well, not sure what that proves but ...
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
If we had a damn engineering school we'd likely have gotten both.
Damn OUS Board has been screwing us since 1916.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
both please see above post
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
You guys realize that Shaq Thompson is out of Grant High in Sacramento... not Portland, right?
Things like that.
i did, obviously, but thought they did as well. i thought it was hilarious! still giggling.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Checks ATQ Map of known stuff outside Oregon.....hmmm...no such place...
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by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 6:21 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
this should always be green
make it happen, people
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by David Piper on Jan 7, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
/PTSD
/Gets out shotgun
/Hops Greyhound to Portland
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Hey you should be proud.
That’s the first thing that shows up when you GI search “axemen map”.
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Death before chastity!
im being silly guys.
actually i think that Grant High School puts out some very impressive college bound group of seniors. especially, being in the neighborhood they’re in. a totally poor and forgot part of town, it seems.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
Grant also serves the Alameda and upper Hollywood areas, it's quite a mixed bag.
Roosevelt OTOH is almost universally populated by underprivileged kids.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
im not sure about those areas.
but i’ve never thought of alameda and upper hollywood as chique. im in midtown, rarely get out, although i used to live in roseville.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
Wow.
Yeah, Irvington, Alameda, and Hollywood are places where you can spend well into 7 figures for a house. There are tons of big, ‘teens and twenties-era Crafstman, Victorian, and Dutch Colonial homes. They aren’t “chic” because they are old, well-established neighborhoods as opposed to many of the SE/central neighborhoods that were abandoned by the working-class in the 90’s and 00’s and taken over by the younger empty-nest crowd.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
cool
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
im not from sacramento. trying to get into McGeorge but i don’t want to live in Oak Park (!!!) so im right next to the Capitol and i love it.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
hold on sir.
the conversation was about Shaq Thompson a high school student at Grant in Sacramento. Im in Sacramento!! i was talking about the neighborhood that serves grant here, NOT NICE. very north portland like.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
Laurelhurst, don't forget Laurelhurst.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Another nice area.
And Mt. Tabor.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
are the fab 40’s considered alameda?
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Haven't heard that term.
Irvington, Alameda, and Hollywood all butt up against each other in mid-northeast. Other than the Army, college, and that hellish stretch when we moved to Salem just before HS, I’ve lived in the area my entire life.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
interesting note
Irvington and Alameda are also really, really amazing neighborhoods in Portland as well! That’s where i’m from. And Hollywood is a small but hip. Damn, those portland hipsters. i miss the so much!
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Luckily, the hipsters mostly stick to SE and NoPo.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
are the hipsters in NoPo now?
holy cow it’s been a while since i’ve been to my favorite town =(
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:50 PM PST up reply actions
NoPo is slowly starting to be gentrified.
Roughly centered around the PCC campus area.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
I've heard that hipsterism ended
when all the ironic anti-fashion became regular old earnest fashion. Though it does have a better ring to it than “those durn young people.”
But yeah, boo to gentrification, raising the rents in all the neighborhoods I want to move in to.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 7, 2012 9:06 PM PST up reply actions
I think you only want to move to these places because they are being/are gentrified
I live in gentrified inner Brooklyn with a bunch of hipsters. In the 80s it was a giant crack den. Now? It is pretty nice.
I’m sure as hell not moving to South Bronx or Newark or other such yet to be gentrified places despite the cheap rent.
i think there is a big BIG dif. b/w ungentrified in oregon vs. south bronx or newark. lol
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Oh hell yes.
Vantucky is another matter altogether though.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 8, 2012 8:15 PM PST up reply actions
meh
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
i kid.
and your saying that this is within the Grant High School Dist.?
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
LOL!
Im in Sacramento!!! The conversation is about Shap Thompson, he attends Grant High in Sacramento. LOL!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Ah.
That explains it.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
OMG i LOVE alameda in portland! i used to live there =)
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Yes.
As I said earlier, the Grant district serves a wide variety of socioeconomic strata.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, not the best representative of the classic "Old Portland" home.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
what?
I take it you’ve never been to this forgotten part of town, which has some of the nicest homes in Portland in the Grant Park area, Sullivans Gulch.
by OregonNYC on Jan 7, 2012 2:41 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
again
Grant High, Sacramento, CA
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 5:03 PM PST up reply actions
Got it, got it...
just saw the Grant HS reference, didn’t catch the relation to the recruit from Sac
I'll grant you some of those places are really nice.
But there are some really nice places west side, too.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Yes, but they were talking about Grant High School's Area.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
i love the Slope.
i used to live in “beaverton” but it was just Hawthorne up into the mountains past the cemetery. i LOVED it.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
I would say Michigan is right there with you,
but I read a report recently about how they seem to be…tweaking some statistics and lobbying for ratings, so yes.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 12:45 PM PST up reply actions
We're talking about Cal, not Stanford.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Wow, whats up with all these dudes picking Cal
they must really want that all expenses paid New Year’s trip to El Paso.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
HA! Shows what you know! We’ve never even BEEN to the Sun Bowl! It’s Las Vegas or bust!
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
just giving you all a hard time
if you guys could ever find a damn QB, you’d be scary. Hard to get to a BCS Bowl with Maynard leading the charge. Why aren’t you in the running for any 4-5* Qbs?
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Zach Kline is a 4 star QB that I believe is already enrolled. Dunno if he has a legit shot at starting as a true frosh though. We’ll see.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
It's true, though, the game we're most scared of (other than anybody ranked above us)
is Cal, in the conference. Weird things happen when we play Cal. And they are always unpredictable. They do beat better teams, but they also inexplicably lose to worse teams. I put that on coaching. Losing to better teams can’t be helped. Losing to weaker teams can.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:53 PM PST up reply actions
and we play Cal the week after we play USC
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
This is why I'm seeing it as a dangerous trap game. Won't be easy getting out of there with a W.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
It's not a trap if you're prepared for it.
Media would be more likely to call it a trap game if it was the week before USC.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Right, but so many of our losses (at least the unexpected ones) were the week after
the most important game of the season against our toughest (supposedly) opponent — the classic letdown game. Because it just isn’t possible to sustain the highest levels of intensity and effort..
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Errr...huh?
You seem to be speaking of a different era of Duck football. What “unexpected loss” has happened in the past few years against a lesser opponent after a game against our toughest opponent?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Cal (Dixon?)
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
SC, after Furd?
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
What I meant, was -- when we do have an expected loss, it's due to a
letdown after a big game.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
those are not considered by the college football world to be HUGE upsets....
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
I meant Furd, after SC, doh (I meant the 2009 Masoli team)
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Cal was considered a contender for the P10 title that year.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Cal went on to lose to
Beavers, UCLA, Huskies, SC, Furd, ASU….given that we had a team which could have reached the NC if Dixon hadn’t gone down, who knows what might have happened.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
What happened AFTER they played us is irrelevant.
WHEN we played them, it was considered a big game, with UO the underdog.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve always wondered what would’ve happened if Nate Longshore hadn’t messed up his ankle at the end of the Oregon game. Would Cal still have collapsed?
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
Who knows?
Cal has been the most schizophrenic team around for a while now.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
true, true, true.
the last time we lost a game we should have won, that i can think of is Indiana isnt it? and that was the first game of the season.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Well, technically, we should have won the last three of 2007.
I believe we were favored in all three.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
by benzduck on Jan 7, 2012 1:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
ouch,... point give, on a technicality.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
If you discount the end of 2007, when we won every game on the way to Dixon’s Heisman and the NCG, the last time we lost a game as double-digit favorites was at Arizona in 2006 (-14, Lost 37-10). Which is one of those games you just want to forget.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Told you, I wanted to forget.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
I remember waiting through quarter after quarter thinking it was going to turn around any time.
Like, I didn’t think it was possible that we could play so poorly at home. I remember just sitting at the end of the game wondering how the hell we failed so hard.
Things like that.
That did pave the way to the Vegas Bowl trip.
glorious, glorious Vegas Bowl trip.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 7, 2012 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
But it was C*nz*no's finest hour
seriously, if the chrome domed one doesn’t write this column after the Vegas debacle, maybe Bellotti doesn’t encourage Cr*wt*n to seek employment elsewhere and hire Chip. (Emphasis added. This was in the 12/22/06 edition of the Oregonian.)
Forgive me quoting an entire C*nz*no column, but this is a very apt description of the last time Oregon’s football team embarrassed its fans. Some of you might not remember how you felt that night. I’ll never forget it, personally… and I didn’t invest in a trip to LV, so all I had to complain about was my damaged fan ego.
Old or new fan, read this and understand: it’s all been uphill from here.
Bellotti’s postgame act is the biggest flop in Vegas
LAS VEGAS — It was unacceptable. It was embarrassing. It was a total failure.Not the football game.
The performance of the losing head coach afterward.
Oregon was outclassed Thursday night on the football field at Sam Boyd Stadium. Brigham Young laid a 38-8 back-alley whipping on the Ducks in the Las Vegas Bowl.
You saw it. I saw it.
Then, after it mercifully ended, Oregon coach Mike Bellotti sat around with a pair of dispassionate eyes, speaking with a flat, hollowed-out voice, refusing to own the moment.
When asked where the passion was, Bellotti said, “You’ll have to ask the players.”
Then Bellotti was given the opportunity to back down from his earlier statement about BYU not being a top-half of the Pacific-10 Conference team. And the coach of the fifth-place Pac-10 team, which just finished embarrassing itself in front of the biggest crowd ever to see an organized sporting event in Nevada history, said, “My opinion has not changed.”
Hold it right there, Mr. Sledgehammer.
BYU was better than Oregon. That’s not debatable today. The Cougars would have won more conference games than the Ducks. Nobody can argue otherwise. The real question is, where in the Mountain West Conference would Oregon have finished?
Dead last —given the kind of effort it showed Thursday.
Ducks fans who supported the program by coming to Las Vegas, paying $50 per ticket, several hundred dollars in airfare, more money for hotels, rental cars, gas and meals should be immediately offered a subsidization. Instead, Bellotti , who should have asked for forgiveness (it’s his program, right?) offered to his followers a meek and unsatisfying, “Come back next year, we’ll do better.”
The man in charge left the apologizing to his players, including running back Jeremiah Johnson, who said, "That was a Mountain West team that wasn’t supposed to be as good as us, but they clobbered us.
“I’m embarrassed.”
Droves of fans in green and yellow left the stadium midway through the third quarter, presumably because getting drunk and inhaling half a pack of cigarette smoke while losing a couple of hundred bucks in the casinos beats standing around in the cold watching your team stare blankly.
Can’t say I blame a single Ducks defector.
Also, the usual halftime ritual where Bellotti takes out a sledgehammer and busts something up? Thursday was the kind of night that begged for some busting. But the wakeup job didn’t happen. Instead, two players said Bellotti used his halftime to drone to his team that the game plan was solid, but it just wasn’t being executed properly.
Oregon was so inspired, its three third-quarter drives ended with a punt and two interceptions. The Ducks mustered 42 total yards of offense in the quarter, which ended with Oregon trailing 24-0. The game ended there.
When the fourth quarter began, the Ducks raised four fingers on the sideline. It’s tradition. But this time, you half expected a line of taxis would pull up to the bench and shuttle them to the airport.
Ducks tight end Dante Rosario walked off like a zombie afterward. Oregon lineman Palauni Ma Sun, celebrating his 21st birthday, walked around the field after the game with —and I am not making this up —a series of leis made from candy bars (Snickers, M&M’s, Three Musketeers, etc.) dangling from his neck.
It ends up as a fitting noose for this team on this day.
You have to wonder whether Bellotti ’s heart still is in coaching football. He had no answers. He accepted almost no accountability for the loss. His game plan failed miserably, but worse yet, his team —the most accurate reflection of any coach —had no passion.
“Where’s the heart?” a Ducks fan leaning over the railing of the stadium asked.
…
Oregon hasn’t won a bowl game in four seasons, and counting. But it’s the way the Ducks lost Thursday that is disappointing.
You could have stomached Oregon losing by a field goal. You could have accepted the Ducks having an unfortunate evening in which they played hard but suffered too many turnovers. You could have accepted BYU simply being superior, but what you got was a total meltdown of a program that didn’t show up to play for the fifth time this season.
Oregon would have been better off politely declining the Las Vegas Bowl invitation and saving everyone the time. But Bellotti ’s reaction to the non-performance goes down as an alarming development.
Bellotti gets the big contract. As part of his deal, he rakes in a percentage of tickets sold at Autzen Stadium. He gets the use of cars and a membership to the Eugene Country Club.
He’s swallowed the hook and parlayed some early success into a small empire, and if Bellotti is doing his job at a high level, that’s all just and acceptable.
But for all of the glory and ego and monetary gain, when he’s underperforming and failing in his job, the last thing he should be doing is disrespecting BYU and passing the accountability to his players.
It’s poor form, Coach.
It’s also your program, Coach.
You still want it, right?
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
That's my point.
Which you apparently missed?
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
I was referring to this passage:
Instead, Bellotti , who should have asked for forgiveness (it’s his program, right?) offered to his followers a meek and unsatisfying, "Come back next year, we’ll do better."
Should have block quoted that in my original reply.
Things like that.
Okay, he was psychic, or prescient.
But he had to have figured he couldn’t do much worse.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Ah, the 2006 Vegas Bowl trip,
and the birth of the two hooker limit in the OMB.
Addicted to Quack
Death before chastity!
Where we promptly got our asses handed to us by BYU? I remember trash talking this Mormon at my work for a month, and then eating crow.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Now, how exactly did a Mormon talk trash back to you?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Maybe something about "Eating his shorts?"
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Most Mormons I have known are way to nice to engage in such behavior
Which makes them really annoying, still strangely pleasant to be around.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
I've been in two fights at the Rose Garden
and both times it was Blazers v Utah, and my counterparts were locals who had gone to a certain college in Utah which beat us in one disastrous Vegas Bowl. Both times the ruckus started with a cup of Sprite being thrown on me.
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Jan 8, 2012 9:27 PM PST up reply actions
My parents used to live in Utah
They went to a few BYU games… they said it was a real trip. BYU fans would send their kids to run through the other fans’ section and cause a ruckus. Very strange fanbase.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
that is the most bizarre sports, "tradition" if i may, i have ever heard.
I couldn’t even think of anything more uncomfortable.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
We did.
Dixon, the 2-time Superbowl MVP with the Dolphins, led us to the BCS title after having won the Heisman Trophy, with JStew picking up the Doak Walker. You of all people should remember this.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
shame!! shame!!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
that was directed at benzduck in support of BigGreen’s jarring.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
Well, you know what they say.
Short term memory is the second thing to go.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Are you sure?
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Disagree.
Everyone remembers the closest we came to losing our shot at the BCSNCG during ’10 was @ Cal. They also played us to a standstill for the first half this past season. WSU might better fit that definition: a talented, under the radar team at home (although we apparently are still unclear about where “home” will be).
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:13 PM PST up reply actions
maybe it's because memorial is built on a fault line
there is like some kind of vortex or gas leak that, while citizens of berkeley are used to it, causes fits of really weird football games for the ducks. seriously!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Has anyone seen the Duck recruits play in this game? Stanford, Balducci and Marshall?
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Saw Balducci.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
Barry Sanders (JR?) going to Furd!
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Barry Sanders is gonna be in the Pac!
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
Spitting image of his daddy.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Good to see...wish him the best (except in our game, of course). His dad was my hero.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Jan 7, 2012 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
great news for the pac12 !!!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Did our RB commit Marshall get hurt in this game?
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
I really think the PAC-12 is going to be stronger across the board next season.
That might not change their W/L records, but really, I can’t think of a single team that did not get better, either via incoming recruits and developing talent or coaching changes..
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
agree, and it's going to continue to get better until it overtakes the sec...
SAY WHAY, you say… hey, my money is larry scott!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
Stanford had better be the exception to that trend
Please, God please.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
Actually, that's true. Furd is taking a major step back w/o Luck. Forgot about that.
But their recruiting class went better than I expected.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
They've gained some momentum.
But it’s going to be a tough stretch next season. They lose a LOT, including their best OL, on top of Luck.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Does anyone know how good their back up QB is?
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
I'm sure he was a good HS QB.
But I don’t think we know how good he will be at this level.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
sorry, my stream switched to NFL coverage… i saw coach Dungy….
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
The Kelly Effect.
Arizona going with RichRod. Wazzu with Leach. USC going away from their large, pro-style linebackers towards leaner, faster LB’s. A bigger commitment conference-wide to getting run-stuffing DL. We’ve started an arms race.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 1:06 PM PST reply actions
Watch, Kelly is going Georgia Tech triple option offense this offseason
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 7, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions
I've always been unimpressed with GT's option attack.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the triple option. That’s actually exactly why I’m disappointed in GT. They seem to not execute it as well as they could. The triple option is one of the most dangerous offenses in the game, but whenever I watch Georgia Tech it just seems like all they do is make bad reads, get tackled for losses, and punt.
Things like that.
but whenever I watch Georgia Tech it just seems like all they do is make bad reads, get tackled for losses, and punt.
Ironically, though they don’t run the triple option, I found the same thing when I watched Oregon State last season.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Jan 8, 2012 12:02 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
boooooooooooooooo!!!!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
is anyone having issues with the stream?
mine is out,… gone.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
Well, the game is over and coverage has switched to the NFL pre-game
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
oh, thanks. my stream was out since ellis declared i think, just before that.
just got it back. lol
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 7, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Nobody knows. All we do know is that...
…IT’S MYSTERY IS ONLY EXCEEDED BY IT’S POWER!
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
Maybe he gives great...never mind.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Xbox magic.
And here our DL coaches have been wasting their time actually making the team succeed on the field. Suckers.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 7, 2012 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
took my 5 yr old girl to see the lady ducks at cal
They are getting trounced by the bears. 57-41 with 17:19 to play
by OakDuck on Jan 7, 2012 3:12 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
meanwhile, OSU is up on Stanford at the half
yeah, maybe picking a coach that doesn’t teach defense wasn’t the best idea
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
shaq thompson to bears? wasnt he a duck commit?
by OakDuck on Jan 7, 2012 3:34 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions
He was a Duck hopeful.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
This is the opposite of surprising.
We were never really in the running as far as I can tell.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
yep
especially considering his brother was a Bear
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Did I do it right?
With all pardons to Joseph Heller
Aut disce, aut discede; manet sors tertia, caedi
by Occam's Blazer on Jan 7, 2012 5:02 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Yes. You did it right.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
And yet it doesn't matter.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
You very well could be right
I had always thought/ heard it attributed to Heller, but Google shows a lot of attributions to him, but not an actual passage
Aut disce, aut discede; manet sors tertia, caedi
by Occam's Blazer on Jan 7, 2012 5:23 PM PST up reply actions
The origin of the quote was Heller.
LONG before Far Side existed. “Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t after you.” But Far Side DID do a duck-based panel and that’s what people here refer to.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
Major Major Major Major is watching you, you know...
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Where are the Snowdens of yesteryear?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 7, 2012 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yossarian lives.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
by David Piper on Jan 7, 2012 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Autorec for one of the greatest damn books ever written
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Shows my reading comprehension skills
I turned ‘the joke about anatidaephobia’ into ‘the quote about paranoia’ in my mind, which confused me to no end. Because I love Catch-22. On another note, there needs to be a ATQ Meme Wiki for us recreational quack addicts, so we can keep up with you hardcore addicts.
Aut disce, aut discede; manet sors tertia, caedi
by Occam's Blazer on Jan 7, 2012 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
For those wondering about a blank green comment:
Aut disce, aut discede; manet sors tertia, caedi
by Occam's Blazer on Jan 7, 2012 9:38 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Not really. Just Thomas Johnston out of Texas. Does it matter they won a rose bowl.
2012 Rose bowl champs
by MotOU on Jan 7, 2012 9:31 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
#1 OL/DT Arik Armstead has visited and listed as "Medium interest", he is one of 2 uncommitted 5*s (I think) that has visited
5* OT Kyle Murphy is listed as “Medium Interest” with an offer and visit, but I haven’t heard much buzz about landing him. It does seem at least on Scout that his only visit to any school was UO, so that sounds nice. None of the other 5* guys have or are scheduled to visit.
I would bet good money
Arik = Cal
Murphy = Stanford
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
I would double down on those bets
Cal’s DL recruiting the last couple years has been absurd, but as Jared said above its hard to win without a QB
I would get an In-N-Out double double, then place it inside a KFC double down
it’s epicness would only be exceeded by its calories.
"Stay the $#%& away from the Pelican’s PBJ!!!"
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They have to do with Nike N7 that supports sports for Native Americans
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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I had to ask at Building the Dam
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
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Holy crap.
Insane.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 7, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
Well, that basketball player for OSU is a better tackler than the majority of their football team.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 7, 2012 10:11 PM PST reply actions
Surprised the Furd guy got up, honestly.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
I gotta say after watching this game,
I really appreciate our cheerleaders.
You rush a miracle man, you get rotten miracles.
So, the Rose Bowl Motivational
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Good post, thanx.
In return, I give you ‘The benzduck of Idaho’
http://www.cdapress.com/news/sports/article_96baa99c-f9a8-5e23-b443-efd57ab7f068.htm
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
"Element not valid"
I guess I should be insulted, right?
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Hmm.
He also enjoys cutting people’s tweets to leave out key information.
Original Canzano Tweets
John Canzano @JohnCanzanoBFT 9h
I know people freaked at seeing Barner courtside for Lakers-Blazers but it feels like he’s probably just hanging w the girlfriend.
@JohnCanzanoBFT 9h
Kenjon Barner spotted at Peachwave Bridgeport Village w girlfriend and her family getting yogurt. They left in a sweet Bentley.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Jan 8, 2012 1:57 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I have no idea what you are saying. Twitter is hieroglyphics for dyslexic teenage hipster crack addicts.
by JonathanPDX on Jan 8, 2012 2:19 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
To be fair, there's really nothing 'unethical' or even eyebrow-raising
about those tweets.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
I'm not sure exactly what you're mad about. Those tweets seem to be giving Barner the benefit of the doubt.
I guess you could argue that he shouldn’t be so into what Kenjon Barner is doing at all in the first place, but whatever. He’s a journalist. He observes things.
Things like that.
I’m not sure how saying “Kenjon Barner is getting a yogurt with his girlfriend and left in a sweet Bentley” is ok because Canzano is a journalist and observes things. This is borderline stalking to me, especially sending out this “information” in a public fashion to thousands of people.
This is dirt sheet material at it’s finest.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Jan 8, 2012 10:50 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It's his job to start shit like that.
Who cares… if people DIDN’T react to the shit he writes he would be out of a job.
So, if you don’t like him. Ignore him.
ssshhh....
He does handle it well
Don’t get me wrong, he’s a paid successful writer and i’m not. But there’s a line between journalism and muckraking, and IMO he’s straddled it here
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Exactly
Like I tweeted him, how exactly is this relevant?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
How about the parts *you* left out?
His response to your upraised middle finger..
@SEsportsdesk keep getting to class. See you in the press box maybe someday. Wish you the best.
And your response, complete with adorable winking emoticon…
@JohnCanzanoBFT That’s the goal. Hopefully athletes are paid by then so tix and cars are non-issues ;)
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
You mean the ones that happened this morning, when I posted this last night?
You also left out another one where he said, to paraphrase “You have much to learn. Love the passion tho.”
Yeah, he’s really good at diffusing things. Really nothing I can say back at that point, and hopefully he does “love the passion.” Like I said below, I take issue with a journalist tweeting things about a 21 year old student’s personal life, who happens to play football
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Barner is not your average 21 year old, and you know it
… Or you will learn it, once you get to the Jschool curriculum discussing public figures, and what you can do to them.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
by benzduck on Jan 8, 2012 1:48 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Is he paid not to be an average 21 year old?
He’s a student who plays football. He’s on a full ride for that skill, sure, but why not tweet the dinner conversation between the science whiz and his girlfriend?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Does anyone here actually give a damn about what Barner does in his free time?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
This thread is your answer.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 8, 2012 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
No it isn't. Axe is righteous here, IMO. He's bustin' the fuckin' clown that NEEDS bustin.'
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
And therefore the intended effect has been achieved.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 8, 2012 11:48 PM PST up reply actions
OK
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
ethics has left mainstream journalism a long long time ago.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
I hope you ain't referring to Clown as a journalist.....you can get flagged for shit like that.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
by Famous Duck on Jan 8, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
you're gonna love what i posted below
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yeeah, I saw it....good posting and helping the young'un.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
by Famous Duck on Jan 8, 2012 9:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he was pointing out that KJB has a super rich girlfriend, that has access to super awesome Blazers tickets.
In other words, there’s nothing to see here folks, just a really lucky guy with a gal that can give him really nice things. Isn’t this every guy’s dream?
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
I guess I don't really care. He was at a basketball game and saw a familiar face get into a car.
I don’t really feel like getting upset over it. If Kenjon expresses he’s upset about it that’s another thing, but I’m not bothered by him tweeting that he saw a Duck at a basketball game.
Things like that.
So if I follow you and your girlfriend around and run a play-by-play on twitter, you’re cool with that?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Jan 8, 2012 11:52 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You lost your high ground by giving him the middle finger
by mackjones23 on Jan 8, 2012 12:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
well, given that I haven’t given Canzano the Twitter middle finger and presumably still have my high ground, I agree with Will on this one. I think he’s absolutely correct. I know in this age of social media people are becoming less and less concerned about their personal lives being public record but I find it incredibly odd that someone in the vein of a “journalist” would give us a blow by blow account of someone with their girlfriend.
The “story” here is that Barner was courtside at a Lakers game and got into a Bentley. That’s where the “news” was and why it was broadcast. if it was the 300 level of the Rose Garden during a winterhawks game and a Geo Metro, I don’t think this tweet happens.
The issue is whether or not we need a TMZ-like account following someone around. That’s what I find repulsive about this whole thing.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Jan 8, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Celebrities get reported on.
This surprises you because…?
I understand your disgust, in general, but C*nz*no is just being himself. We have already all paid way too much attention to the original message.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
by benzduck on Jan 8, 2012 12:28 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Just because I find it repulsive doesn’t mean it surprises me. The rest I agree on.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
The issue is whether or not we need a TMZ-like account following someone around. That’s what I find repulsive about this whole thing.
Newsflash: This is exactly what journalists such as Canzano do now. It’s dumb, and it’s useless gossip, and it’s also sports media in 2012. I can’t muster outrage at something we see pretty much every day.
I personally feel glad that Canzano seemed to be defending Barner’s presence there, since other codgers such as Dwight Jaynes decided to jump to conclusions about how dumb a decision it was by Barner to be there, like a violation was going to get slapped onto him any minute now. Canzano seemed to actually understand the situation way better than anyone else in the media did.
Things like that.
by qrsouther on Jan 8, 2012 12:31 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Newsflash to you. Just because they do it, doesn’t mean I have to like it, support it or be indifferent to it. Just because we see it everyday doesn’t mean that we have to just accept it. I choose to not be indifferent in these contexts. Your indifference is your prerogative.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Jan 8, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Just because they do it, doesn’t mean I have to like it, support it or be indifferent to it.
I’m not telling you what to think or feel about it. I’ve only been telling you what I feel about it, and that’s that the whole situation is silly and immature from both sides. Canzano is talking about something nobody cares about, and some people are getting upset and weirded out that he’s talking about things that nobody cares about. I think your image of him “following him around” is probably a little ahead of itself.
You know what probably went down? He probably heard from some other person, perhaps another journalist who evidently cares about these things, saying that he saw firsthand that Kenjon Barner isn’t getting bankrolled by some agent or Nike to go do these posh things in Portland; he’s actually just hanging with his girlfriend who happens to be wealthy. Canzano apparently thinks this is worth tweeting about so that people know it’s just him spending time with his girlfriend doing these things, and that any controversy or skepticism is misplaced. He tweets this, sounds kind of awkward doing it, and some people take it the wrong way and think that Canzano’s stalking the guy.
Believe me, I don’t enjoy defending Canzano, but I think the outrage that I’ve seen some people show here is getting rather silly.
Things like that.
My outrage is not at Canzano because he’s Canzano. My outrage is at the prospect of someone somehow justifying what I perceive to be an invasion of privacy by saying “he’s a journalist, it’s ok”. Well, I don’t think it is.
If you somehow think it’s ok for someone to broadcast to thousands of people where you are going, what you are doing, who you are with, what car you are riding in, all because of the view that he’s a journalist and that makes it ok, then we live in vastly different worlds. This isn’t an editorial board, this isn’t a newspaper, this just a megaphone with a gigantic audience and I would feel the same if it was anyone doing the same.
We can agree to disagree but I find it just sad that some people value their own personal privacy so little and are beat down by the “everyone’s doing it” mantra to look the other way.
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
by dvieira on Jan 8, 2012 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I find it incredibly odd that someone in the vein of a "journalist" would give us a blow by blow account of someone with their girlfriend.
I pose the question to you: Would you be OK with someone tweeting your daily interactions between you and your significant other?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Oh yeah
That would be hawt. I think we’re catching a movie tonight, should I post the theater and time when we decide on one? You can tweet it @SteamyCanzano
I'm not Famous Duck
nor do I have celebrity or public figure status. No one wants to know what’s going on in my life.
KJB is now the 1st string RB on the #5 ranked team in the country who, if he had gotten these tickets from a sports agent, would demonstrate that he’s jumping to the next level or committing a NCAA violation. That would be newsworthy to me as an Oregon fan, as well as our opponents.
by INducktrination on Jan 8, 2012 2:23 PM PST up reply actions
But once there's obvious proof to the contrary (Like, for example, this is the 3rd time he's been in the same seats with the same girl)
Who cares?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
But this was the first time it was noted
Sports by Brooks didn’t know he’d sat there before because of his girlfriend. So he wrote on it. People who choose to follow him started asking questions on it. It became a topic of discussion. Just another reason to ignore Brooks.
by INducktrination on Jan 8, 2012 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Canzano brought it up 48 hours after it had been proven a non issue.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
I see Brooks posted his original article on the 6th at 12:55 but no listed AM/PM. RabbitSC above questions about it on the 7th at 11:45 AM PST. Canzano’s tweets hit on the 7th at 3ish. Seeing that Canzano was livetweeting a wedding, he probably had just heard that people were talking about it and then added his commentary. His job is to voice his opinion on the topics his readers want to hear about. So Canzano was late to the party? So what?
by INducktrination on Jan 8, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
What do you mean, so what? You've already admitted that you aren't Famous Duck, right.
So go sit with Sasquatch. Let Brokkies and clowny make up a romance inuendo.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
AMEN!
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
Indeed
You should be thanking him for the retweet.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
thanking a corp. journalist twat. for texting you back. are you kidding. getting a rise period props his ego and he gets paid to do so.
people need to read MANUFACTURING CONSENT!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I'm not exactly proud of the wording of said tweet
but my indignation stands as called.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
BULLSHIT!
more people need to be given the finger. If you can’t take on an ethical dilemma without passion the Ann Rand’s of the world will have you killed without a second thought. somebody should have flipped that bitch off 24 hours a day, maybe she would have shut her mouth and not create a bogus philosophical perspective to justify disaster capitalism and world wide economy of plunder.
so congratulations to you for speaking like a man and not a professional eunuch!
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
omg im gonna freak out.
this is not journalism fellow ducks. it is, at best, TMZ material. This is ENQUIRER reading. im done.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
i absolutely hate mainstream media.
axeman was bringing poor journalism out and people are dissing him. that pisses me off. and to complain about his middle finger comment shows very little to no understanding of the importance of a ethical journalist in this particular day and age. it’s so insane and irresponsible in a democratic society that it pushes criminal “accessory after the fact” in the way Germans had to suck it up when they realized (finally) how their democratic processes were taken over in legally acceptable ways… it gets my blood boiling. lol but im smiling while i write because it’s a topic i love to research.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm still not seeing this as being as big of a deal as anyone else is I guess...
There are literally a thousand instances of worse, slimier, yellower journalism that have broader implications than any tweet about a football player that Canzano sends. I understand the desire for higher standards in media and journalism. I agree that the standards are low right now in the digital age, but this is not such an example to me.
Things like that.
canzano is a GREAT example of TMZ material masquerading around as a legit journalistic story.... that's the ethical point of debate.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 4:23 PM PST up reply actions
of THIS debate, i meant to type.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 4:24 PM PST up reply actions
one last thing...
it’s not always about the issue being important as it is about distracting ones attention away from what IS important. journalist today, even in the sports columns, are professionals at evading real issues buy things like stalking celebrities. This point is crucial.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
journalist today, even in the sports columns, are professionals at evading real issues
Which is literally the exact reason why I don’t understand at all why people are getting so worked up about this thing with Canzano tweeting that he saw Barner get into a nice car.
Things like that.
think bigger. it's more than just this one reporter tweeting these few tweets.
think about your argument. people saw the mafia extorting people all the time, should they not have cared? the analogy is drastic but i consider TMZ like reporting fine, when they call themselves TMZ,…not when they pass themselves off as legit journalist. That is a disgrace to any democratic institution and should be nipped in the bud. bad journalism leads to war. and again,….it’s not always the topic… you have to remember that the sensationalism that has taken over is part of a institutional process to keep the “rabble” attention off of what is important. That is done by paparazzi style “journalism”. So think bigger,… actions lead to bigger actions, etc.etc…. the germans had plenty of notice what was going to end up happening, sadly no too few stood up at the start of it all.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
the germans had plenty of notice what was going to end up happening, sadly no too few stood up at the start of it all.
I’m sorry but this discussion is very difficult to have in here when the hyperbole is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
Things like that.
that's very sad, but oh well. cheers!
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 12:42 AM PST up reply actions
Some folk just don't WANT to 'get it' and other won't until they suffer personally.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
I want to "get it" -- whatever 'getting it' is here -- but when someone compares a freaking tweet to the Third Reich, I think we're pretty much done here.
Things like that.
Godwin-ing FTW!
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 10:36 AM PST up reply actions
So you can’t call out poor journalism without resorting to lowbrow tactics?
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
well, that for sure is something that a young journalist can and does work on. but let’s not kid ourselves, the industry has become lowbrow itself so im not bothered by it. i love to see passion behind young people!! and i think you could call some of our founding fathers actions back in the day pretty lowbrow. (in order to gain our rights)
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Right, The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
...Not sure if I should say thanks or distance myself faster than a presidential candidate from a checkered acquaintance...
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
do you wanna be a tool or a journalist?
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
...still afraid to answer...
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
now im afraid.
we need journalist who don’t hesitate with that question. Are you at Jschool or still at SEHS (Go Axemen, went there for one year, it’s much much cooler than Thurston)? Im gonna pretend you aren’t and let that slip.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
I'm about to start my 2nd quarter at the U of O
I want to be a journalist, and on the reporting side not the production side. That being said, I think there’s a lot right and lots of very good journalists in today’s world, but the upheaval in the industry and few bad eggs are masking that. We know more today than we ever did about anything, and a big part of that is due to quality and smart risk-taking reporters.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Jan 8, 2012 9:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Also, Thurston scares me.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
as well it should
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
agree 100%, but notice that you didn't say 'editor' in there anywhere...
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 9:16 PM PST up reply actions
I like writing, reporting, being the first to find a story and figuring out how to do the best I can in reporting it
editing would be interesting down the road, but I did that last year and playing politics, even in HS, is a bitch
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
politics, yes even in high school, i hear you.
Now, add billions of billions of dollars at stake and national armies as arbitrators and you have a whole new deal. you’ll never be an editor in mainstream corp. news without adopting a state of despotism and distain for true information getting out to the “rabble.” You can keep your ethics as a reporter and try to work the system. That’s why i said you didn’t mention ‘editor’ because that’s where your journalistic tendencies and integrity can disappear.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
honestly. read Manufacturing Consent.
or watch it for free on YouTube. it will eventually be required reading i imagine. when i was there in the 90’s no less than 3 of my classes had it as required reading/watching.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
i’ve been reading Greg Palast’s, “Vultures’ Picnic: In Pursuit of Petroleum Pigs, Power Pirates, and High-Finance Carnivores”… i think his style of writing is rubbing off on me. im okay with that.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I feel like it's an important piece of information, albeit in a really small argument
it just shows that I’m not a drop-dead novice when it comes to journalism experience…I’ve covered pretty big events/stories with a press pass and made tough decisions regarding the “sports” coverage of a senior forward for SEHS who drowned last year.
Granted, he’s got worlds more experience than I do, but where this may be his 1500th rodeo, it’s not like it’s my first.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
That's like claiming "high school senior class treasurer" as a year of governmental experience.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
by benzduck on Jan 8, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
if that high school treasurer was embezzling money and covering up financial 'tricks' then it was in fact a fantastic governmental experience.
and it’s an unfair analogy though because writing stories as a high school journalism student is actually quite similar to writing professionally, you just have different ideologies to please and you get paid. a high school treasurer, outside of a very bright embezzling, no ethics one i mentioned above, does absolutely nothing that a government official does. nothing at all.
Axemen, DON’T APOLOGIZE. mistakes happen, wordings tend to change over time but whats important is that your nose can smell unethical sh’t in your field of choice and you need to continue to go with you instincts, regardless of who gets pissed off or just doesnt see it yet.
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
To a professional journalist, "wrote for high school paper" carries very little weight.
I guess it’s possible that a writer for a HS paper has won a Pulitzer, but I don’t think it’s too common.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
I obviously don't consider it anywhere within a thousand miles of equal
but it just shows that I’m not brand spanking new to this game.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Jan 8, 2012 8:49 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There's a 140 character limit to twitter
I counted 122 characters in your original tweet. Adding in Canzano’s name, and RT your name, it was too long. He had to edit it.
And criminy I can’t believe I just had to count that.
by INducktrination on Jan 8, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
I don't have a problem with him cutting it to fit
but if you do that, you should cite the original source by linking to it, as I did.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
You'll have to forgive me
I am not on twitter and don’t know the proper etiquette of twitterese. But perhaps you should have attacked his point, instead of giving him the one finger salute.
by INducktrination on Jan 8, 2012 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
It's a nice thing to do
but many good sportswriters also trim RTs, and what he excised doesn’t really affect what you said, at least not enough to misrepresent you. Also, he did you a favor, I think.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
CBS Sunday Morning on Oregon's RoseBowl uniforms
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
In actual, awesome news
@TheRecruitScoop 56m
Anthony Bennett, a 2012 SF from Findlay Prep (NV), has narrowed his list to Washington, Florida, UNLV, Kentucky & Oregon. per @adamzagoria
Top 5 player in the country. Obviously going to show up, eat the free food and ditch to Missouri.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
I don't feel great about us getting him
but I really hope he doesn’t go to washington
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Go Broncos!
I have no sentimental rooting interest outside of minor annoyance at the whole Tebow phenomenon… but I also have them covering with three confidence points in the office pool.
So WOOOOHOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 8, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
Matt Daddy must be hammered out of his gourd
I can’t wait for his drunken losing rant.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Meh
Don’t even care. Can’t win when half your team is injured.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
you had to didn't you
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
I'm a Bears fan, I already got Tebowed this year.
But Pitts looking to Tebow Tebow!
by INducktrination on Jan 8, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the weekend quack.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
by PondJunky on Jan 8, 2012 3:35 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
any live streaming of the cal v. oregon basketball game?
"i love my grandma, but bret (musburger) needs to retire."
Our next football opponent is currently on the field..
Arkansas St, in the GoDaddy.com bowl.
Scouting report: they look small, but feisty.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
YAY, N. ILL FINALLY PULLS AHEAD DESPITE THE FACT I'VE PICKED THEM TO WIN!
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
I really hope Michael Dyer gets his transfer to Arky State, and we crush them next season.
REVENGE IS BEST SERVED COLD.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
What a very strange twist of fate,
that would bring Michael Dyer to Autzen Stadium – even on the sideline.
ATQ's #1 fan of WINNING THE ROSE BOWL
BTW, Congrats, Daisy, for kicking all our butts in the Bowl Game Mania!! You're #1!
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Personally, I'm very disappointed in Daisy for not having more confidence in her beloved Ducks.
Seriously. One confidence point?
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Hey! That one point wasn't a confidence measurement
it was an “I don’t want to bet on the Ducks” rebellion.
Thanks GDT – but it might be a short stay at #1. The #2 person has way more points riding on tomorrow night’s game than I do.
ATQ's #1 fan of WINNING THE ROSE BOWL
We are going to poleax Arky State.
Malzahn and Dyer notwithstanding.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 8, 2012 8:20 PM PST up reply actions
and it will count as a win over a bowl team. hahahahaha
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 8, 2012 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
Won't Dyer have to sit a year?
Or are we doing a home/home?
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 10:39 AM PST up reply actions
I think he won't
Because he’s transferring to a non-AQ school I think – I could be wrong- that he can start right away.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
He will have to sit a year
The rule is the same for all FBS schools (doesn’t matter if AQ or not).
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