Quack Fix: Basketball falls to Cal 77-60, Football primed for 2012 BCS run
by jtlight on Jan 9, 2012 6:48 AM PST
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PrintOne last game of college football tonight. Maybe we'll get some offense this time around. Here's your quack:
- The Ducks couldn't hang with Cal in the second half last night, and ended up falling 77-60. A string of turnovers, poor defense, and poor rebounding doomed the Ducks, as Cal took control early in the second half, and never let up. Here's CGB's recap. This is a disappointing loss. It was a game that would have allowed the Ducks to turn a corner, getting a sweep of the Bay Area schools. But now the Ducks have lost to Uw and Cal by a combined 33 points.
- Let's move on to some more exciting news, the 2012 football season! Yesterday, the Register Guard had their football season wrap-up and look forward. This season, the Ducks overcame a lot of adversity (especially injuries) to win the conference and Rose Bowl. This gave the Ducks valuable experience that will be key in another run next season. Moseley also has a position-by-position breakdown.
- Aaron Fentress also has a look at the 2012 football team, and says that the Ducks will be in the mix for the BCS Championship game, despite LaMichael James moving on to the NFL.
- George Schroeder is at the BCS Championship Game, and got some interesting thoughts from the players on the Ducks.
- Lastly, a couple good pieces from FishDuck. Charles has his Rose Bowl recap video, taking a look at some surprise plays. Also, Brian Libby has a piece talking about the 85 scholarship limit, and how it has allowed Oregon and many other teams to compete nationally.
Leave anything else below. GO DUCKS!
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Hello...test...hello?....is thing on?
People of ATQ this is the biggest day in College Football, a day where I’m sure none of us could sleep last night, a day we have Tebow’d for, a day where we can can all worship at the feet of the mighty SuECk and it’s finally here!
How excite…Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
For Oregon, King Kelly, and St Quack!
All I hear is crickets.
I’m not making a bold prediction, but we believe we can win every football game.----Chip Kelly
I for one am looking forward to the snarky halftime observations and witticisms of our beloved leader.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
by benzduck on Jan 9, 2012 8:55 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Who dat?
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Chip will be on the studio set before and during tonight's game.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 9:10 AM PST up reply actions
how is it I care so much about Ducks football
And the NCG barely interests me? I’ll be on a plane until at least the 2nd half and I couldn’t care less honestly.
by OregonNYC on Jan 9, 2012 1:34 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
not there for the game, he is just stalking Erin
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
Chip doesn't need to stalk
He gets an engraved invitation.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 1:14 PM PST up reply actions
Sometimes I wonder if Erin Andrews thinks she is some sort of Horse Whisperer
in that she is the only person in the media that can get an honest thought out response and perceived respect from Chip Kelly without all the BS and smartassery he is known and loved (by me at least) for.
Everyone knows
Chip’s heart is earned through couch farts.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
No, it's more like Empire Strikes Back
Erin longingly shouts toward Chip “I LOVE YOU!”
Chip simply smugly replies…“I know”
Except instead of being frozen in carbonite, Chip is being showered with awesomeness.
"Stay the $#%& away from the Pelican’s PBJ!!!"
Go Fish, Get Hooked! www.FishDuck.com
by keeerrrttt1 on Jan 9, 2012 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
What I’d really like is some exchange like this:
Fowler: We saw some good play by both teams in a really close game. Chip, what stood out to you?
Chip: Both teams played really tough. What I noticed was a distinct lack of fluke plays. Alabama is playing its heart out. It would be a shame to see them lose on some fluke play that could have been called differently. You hate to see the game come down to plays like that.
Fowler: Ummm, okay, point taken. Gene?
Gene: Sometimes what we think of as fluke plays are just hard work and will creating something out of nothing. Usually the team that plays better will get the benefit of that type of play.
Chip: As will the team that pays its quarterback more.
Gene: Willie Lyles. U mad bro?
Chip: Hey Gene. Come over here and try to lift these. Cmon, don’t be shy! You better use your legs, though. Wouldn’t want you to throw out your back.
Corso: Fuck yeah!
[Brawl ensues]
Fowler: Uhhhh, we’ll be right back.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
by Gorbachav5 on Jan 9, 2012 9:22 AM PST up reply actions 12 recs
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I wrote/deleted like 17 different things, none of which did enough justice to that. Loved it.
I don't mean to impose...
I've got one large on Chip
You know he’d kick that smarmy Chizik’s ass.
ATQ's #1 fan of WINNING THE ROSE BOWL
awesome! rec'd for pure awesomyness
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
I'm honestly looking forward to the thread on here more than the game.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
NCG Drinking game
http://kegsneggsblog.com/2012/01/09/your-bcs-national-championship-drinking-game/
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Jan 9, 2012 9:30 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Lulz!
Unless I want a blinding hangover this would be yet another reason not to watch!
(CK appearance excluded of course)
For Oregon, King Kelly, and St Quack!
I'm trying to think of something witty he could have said.
But, there is no getting around that.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
Clearly 8-]
“Seattle is a fun town!”
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
The guy on the left in the hat is clearly saying
“This is my personal space, Mr. Saban! Please do not enter it!”
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
Brilliant.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
LOL
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 1:07 PM PST up reply actions
YAY BOWLS
Eight of 70 bowl teams finished yr with losing records while 14 teams ended up 7-6.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
So you're sayin' 48 teams finished better than 7-6?
THE SYSTEM WORKS
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
If you haven't seen this
About Cliff Harris at the Rose Bowl: http://supwitchugirl.tumblr.com/post/15552249850/section-25
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
by skywaker9 on Jan 9, 2012 10:17 AM PST reply actions 3 recs
Rec'd and thanx for posting it
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
Good for him.
Maybe he is taking this as a opportunity for growth. I have to say, for myself, it would hard to show up knowing even being there would put you under further scrutiny.
I’m not making a bold prediction, but we believe we can win every football game.----Chip Kelly
Fantastic article.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
Good Read.
Well written, and thoughtful, I actually got choked up a little. I don’t hate Cliff for making bad decisions, he still has a lot of “The Kid” in him, and hopefully he will grow like most of us do into a responsible adult. I love me some Cliff Harris, he’s a great football player, and fun to watch. I wish him nothing but the best.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Agree 100%
I hope he learns from his mistakes and has a great NFL career/life in general.
"Good evening Blazer fans, wherever you may be!"-Bill Schonely
That’s an interesting train of thought that I don’t completely agree with. Him showing up at the game is probably somewhere in between “sad and bizarre” (as Canzano described it) and Bishop’s opinion of the situation.
Honestly, I don’t really think that going to the Rose Bowl and cheering on his teammates makes him a better person. Sure, it’s good to see that Cliff cares enough about his former teammates to show up at the Rose Bowl and support them (for most of the game, anyway), but that really doesn’t speak to any transformation that he’s made as a person.
I’m not trying to imply that Cliff isn’t transforming and maturing, however, I’m not exactly sure that his presence at the game speaks to growth or maturity.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 9, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Honestly, I don’t really think that going to the Rose Bowl and cheering on his teammates makes him a better person. Sure, it’s good to see that Cliff cares enough about his former teammates to show up at the Rose Bowl and support them (for most of the game, anyway), but that really doesn’t speak to any transformation that he’s made as a person.
Is it about that? Or is it about facing the music and showing your face in front of all those fans? I personally think it takes some serious guts to do that. He had to know that many of the fans think that Cliff is a “thug” or whatever. And he probably thinks that at least some of them blame the USC loss at least partially on him. It would have been very easy for him to just stay home. A lot of younger people have a very hard time accepting punishment without feeling like they were “screwed over” and complaining about it.
I guess I just get the feeling that Cliff has fully made the first step toward growing – he seems to have fully owned up to his mistakes and accepted responsibility for them. No blaming other people. No deflecting. No hiding from it. And showing up in front of thousands of Duck fans at the Rose Bowl is facing the music about as much as one possibly can.
I don’t know that it proves that Cliff is somehow a “better person”. But I think it shows that he’s taken responsibility for his actions like a man. Only time will tell what that means about whether that’ll help him in the future.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
I was in Section 25.
I wish I could have shook his hand, thanked him and wished him the best.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Have to disagree
he seems to have fully owned up to his mistakes and accepted responsibility for them. No blaming other people. No deflecting. No hiding from it. And showing up in front of thousands of Duck fans at the Rose Bowl is facing the music about as much as one possibly can.
How has he owned up? In his only public comment he insinuated that there was “more to the story”, which to me, shirks responsibility.
Coming to the Rose Bowl and being 1 face in a crowd of 95k hardly equates to facing the music. And again, if he left before the game is over, doesn’t that really say what Cliff is all about?
My parents believed in me.
He also said that he made mistakes and that he had done more than what had come out
And he also apologized.
Really, in this day and age of deflection and ‘someone else’s fault’ syndrome Cliff did good by me as far as owning up to his own mistakes.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Agree
“To all my fans and supporters that love what I do(or did) at the University of Oregon I want to apologize for the circumstances that got me kicked off the team. Its more than what the media portrays and I’m not able to speak on it as of now but tune in for the Rose Bowl January 2, 2012 @ 3p.m. and watch my Ducks get down against Wisconsin Badgers. GO DUCKS!!!!! Lets Bring it Home!!!”
That statement doesn’t shirk responsibility in my opinion. Not when it’s preceeded by apologizing for the “circumstances that got me kicked off the team”, and followed by support for the team that he was just dismissed from. Most people would say “screw them”, especially if they were in the midst of shirking their responsibility and saying “it’s not my fault” or “they did me wrong”.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
well said.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Coming to the Rose Bowl and being 1 face in a crowd of 95k hardly equates to facing the music.
So you think that the people around him didn’t know who he was? He was just a needle in a haystack? And when he was driving to the stadium, you think that he was thinking that nobody would know who he was? That’s what it’s about…I can only speak for myself, but if I was as well-known as Cliff is and I was going into that situation, I surely would be going into it thinking that everyone is going to know who I am. Every person who looked at him, he’d have to face the look he got. I’m sure there were plenty of people who looked at him with disgust. And he went anyway. That takes balls. To the people on TV, he was one face in a big crowd. But to every person who he made eye contact with or walked past, he was Cliff Harris, disgraced Duck.
And again, if he left before the game is over, doesn’t that really say what Cliff is all about?
I don’t know about that. I guess you could possibly say that. But you could also say it’s smart…how many times has someone gotten into some bad situation and people say “he should never have put himself in that situation”? You could also say it’s unselfish…he could have decided that he didn’t want to take away from the team’s celebration.
I guess I’d ask you to elaborate. He left before the end of the game. You say that’s “what Cliff is all about”. What does that mean? What would staying until the very end have done? If, as you say, he wasn’t actually facing the music, then leaving means nothing. You seem to have a general tone that Cliff doesn’t finish what he starts, but I’m not sure what you mean by that. What has he quit? He’s not off the team because he wanted to be.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 1:05 PM PST up reply actions
And again, if he left before the game is over, doesn’t that really say what Cliff is all about?I don’t know about that. I guess you could possibly say that. But you could also say it’s smart…how many times has someone gotten into some bad situation and people say "he should never have put himself in that situation"? You could also say it’s unselfish…he could have decided that he didn’t want to take away from the team’s celebration.
Maybe he left to beat traffic.
I’m not making a bold prediction, but we believe we can win every football game.----Chip Kelly
Maybe he left because it was painful as all hell to watch a celebration that he could have taken part in. But even if that’s the case, I still don’t think that’s saying anything bad about him. Facing the music, to me, wasn’t about him watching the game. To me it was about walking into that stadium filled with people who at worst literally hate him without even knowing him, and at best are very disappointed in him.
I can only imagine some of the looks he got…some of the things people said passive-aggressively from a short enough distance for him to hear…hell, some of the things people probably said directly to him. I’m sure he got his share of support seeing as how the fan base seems to basically be split on him. But you know he got his share of the negative stuff.
But the point is, he KNEW it was going to happen and he went anyway. Like it or not…like Cliff or not…it took some balls to walk into that stadium and face the crowd.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Or maybe he maybe'd his maybe to death.
Or maybe he didn’t want to be there if the Ducks lost in a close one. Maybe he was afraid some jerk fan would try to blame him for not being there with his team.
Maybe it’s none of our business.
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
by QuackinAK on Jan 9, 2012 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Fair enough...
then lets not concoct feel good stories about redemption based on Cliff attending a football game.
My brother went to a Beaver game last year with his wife (the Beaver) and saw Cliff, DT, and Eddie Pleasant there (it was a bye week I think). Cliff was dressed as described in this article, but DT was wearing his letterman’s jacket. Everyone noticed them. Everyone knew who they were. People (Beaver fans) were coming up to get their pictures taken with Cliff and DT.
Now, if Cliff and DT don’t mind showing up in their rival’s stadium to watch a game, do you really think its a big deal that he went to the Rose Bowl?
My parents believed in me.
I do. Because Cliff was THE MAN last year. He was an all american who all fans loved. When he went to the Rose Bowl he wasn’t at all. You are right that there is some portion of the fan base that still loves him and I’m sure said positive things to him. But there are a lot of people who are unhappy with him. I am sure he got more than a few dirty/disappointed looks/comments. The feeling he had prior to walking into Reeser was a different feeling altogether than the feeling he must’ve had walking into the Rose Bowl. IMO, it’s not so much about what actually happened as it is about him knowing that he was going to get negative reactions and went anyway.
For the record, I don’t think this makes things all better. Clearly it doesn’t show anything in terms of whether he’s learned a lesson or not. Only time will tell that.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure Cliff doesn't give a crap about what other peole think of him
and that’s half his problem.
My parents believed in me.
Then why issue an apology at all?
I don’t think that is true whatsoever.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Because I believe part of him is sorry
and part just doesn’t give a crap. That’s why I said it was half his problem, not his whole problem.
My parents believed in me.
that just sounds like youth. and we all know that that youthful response is often a cover for attachment or abandonment issues.
why not just assume the best and be happy?
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
Who knows?
I personally liked Cliff, and felt bad that he couldn’t get his shit together.
I don’t pity him though, and I frankly don’t respect him for pissing away such a great opportunity. He has a long history of problems, had a great support system in place, a coach who wanted him to succeed, and yet he failed. I hope he does well, but I’m not going to pump sunshine about Cliff.
I think the vast majority of Duck fans support Cliff, so I don’t think him showing up to a Duck game is all that courageous.
Its more than what the media portrays and I’m not able to speak on it as of now
That statement just sounds like he’s making excuses and to my ears sort of cancels out the sincerity of his first statement.
Did Cliff leave early to beat traffic? Maybe. Did any of you leave early when the outcome of the most exiting, biggest of games was still in the balance? I doubt it.
So Cliff shows up, gets noticed, leaves before the game is over. Big deal. Its a perfect metaphor for his college career: Failing to see something through to the end.
My parents believed in me.
What did he fail to see through to the end though? That’s what I’m not getting. I don’t pity Cliff either. He got what he deserved. You only get so many opportunities and he needed to be taught that there are consequences to screwing up even if you are the cheese on top of the nachos.
But I don’t get what it is that he failed to see through. I feel like in one statement you are saying “he was just a face in the crowd so that didn’t take any courage” but then in the next you are saying, “it took courage to show up but since he didn’t stay for the end of the game he gets no credit.” What did he fail to see through? Just watching the end of the game?
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 1:27 PM PST up reply actions
Its a metaphor
Cliff didn’t stick out his college career, just as he didn’t stay to watch the end of the game.
My parents believed in me.
Gotcha. Cliff didn’t walk out before the end of his college career though. He screwed up and got the boot. If he had gotten kicked out of the Rose Bowl before the end that metaphor would probably work better. Saying he didn’t see things through usually insinuates that a person quit. Cliff screwed up and can be accused of several things…I’m not sure being a quitter is one of them.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Isn't failing
to live up to relatively simple standards (don’t get caught with weed, speed 118 mph, or wear a seat belt) tantamount to quitting? It might even be worse than quitting.
My parents believed in me.
No
Quitting is quitting. Failing to live up to simple standards is being stupid and irresponsible. I think most players, if they truly thought that it would affect them negatively, wouldn’t do it. That’s the issue guys like Cliff have: they either think they won’t get caught (this time) or don’t realize what kind of consequences will come of their actions. I would think only a rare few would do something stupid if the knew without a shadow of a doubt they would be kicked off the team. Unfortunately, that action:consequence connection is missed somewhere along the way.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
CK
had already kicked Masoli, Embry, Holland, and some scrub off the team.
Kiko was suspended for a year, Blount missed most of his senior season.
I’m pretty sure Cliff had a good idea what would happen to him if he didn’t comply. Besides isn’t this what we say about criminals…“they wouldn’t commit the crime if they knew they would be caught”?
I think Coach Kelly says it best: “Its not how you behave when everyone is looking, it’s how you behave when you think no one is looking”.
My parents believed in me.
I'm not disagreeing with the fact that he was wrong or shouldn't have been punished.
The point I’m just trying to make is that he didn’t quit.
Would a Cliff have driven 118 if Chip was in the car? Ha, no. That’s what I mean by their being a disconnect. He figured he wouldn’t get caught. The fact that all those players ahead of him had been kicked off the team probably didn’t cross his mind at the time.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
The point I’m just trying to make is that he didn’t quit.
He screwed up. More than once. But he didn’t quit.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
But isn't this problem with Cliff:
The fact that all those players ahead of him had been kicked off the team probably didn’t cross his mind at the time.
I think failing to the point of being kicked off the team is equal to quitting.
My parents believed in me.
to live up to relatively simple standards (don’t get caught with weed, speed 118 mph, or wear a seat belt) tantamount to quitting? It might even be worse than quitting.
Maybe it’s worse than quitting. Maybe not. But the fact that it could be worse or less severe means it is different. He failed, that’s for sure.
Isn’t failing
to live up to relatively simple standards (don’t get caught with weed, speed 118 mph, or wear a seat belt) tantamount to quitting?
You have never driven without a seatbelt on? EVER? Dang, that’s impressive. I admit it, I’ve driven without a seatbelt several times. There you go, Matt Daddy, you’re reason to ban me from ATQ.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Don't worry, you're like the Norv Turner of ATQ.
There’s no way we could get rid of you, even if everyone wanted me to.
Plus, I’m afraid of what your Mom would do to me if I banned you. Really afraid.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
That is pretty harsh.
It takes some serious Chip Kelly sized balls to go around and declare people the “Norv Turner of…” something.
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
or axemen23 which is equivalent to being porn
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Porn can be good though.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Dare I ask what to?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
This ain't no OAC blog!
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What is Matt Daddy ever going to do when the Chargers take LaMichael in the draft?
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
That would be a great pick up for them
Although, I’m sure AJ would find a way to screw it up somehow. Anywhere but the Ravens is fine with me.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Old AJ…what happened to you? You trade the rights to draft Vick and end up with LaDanian Tomlinson & Drew Brees in the same draft. Then, after Eli Manning and his daddy throw a hissy fit and refuse to play in San Diego, you draft him anyway and trade him for Phillip Rivers, Shawne Merriman, and Nate Kaeding. How on earth do you go from that to what we’re seeing now? I just don’t get it. It’s clear as day that Norv is a hell of an offensive coordinator and play caller, but he just isn’t a good head coach. That’s all their is to it. He couldn’t win a Super Bowl with those super talented teams, but he’s going to work wonders with a less talented team?
I feel like I’m watching a real life version of Major League. They are trying to lose so they can move to Los Angeles and get a new stadium. And if they move to LA, I honestly don’t think I can root for them anymore.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 3:30 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
The Los Angeles Chargers. Has a good ring to it, don’t you think?
/Go Fuck yourself, San Diego
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Although
I shouldn’t be too hard on Charger fans, you’re some of the only people that can empathize with me today.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Seriously though…what were you thinking on those plays where they ran the zone read and read Harrison, and Harrison looked like “WTF am I supposed to DO?” Did you, at any point, think “this must be what Oregon’s opponents feel like”? It’s pretty crazy that Tebow broke Aaron Rogers’ Total QBR single playoff game record.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
I facepalmed every time that happened
Even Dick Lebeau has trouble coaching against the zone read. After watching a defensive MVP and stud like Harrison get burnt on that, does anyone really think Chip Kelly can’t succeed in the NFL?
My only thought was, thank God, Kelly isn’t coaching at Denver, they would have dropped 50 on the Steelers in the second quarter alone.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
by Matt Daddy on Jan 9, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes, best be very careful
MCD is very popular around here. And as you pointed out, there is his very popular mom to contend with. They are basically the Kennedys of ATQ. Don’t be Richard Nixon, Matt Daddy.
ATQ's #1 fan of WINNING THE ROSE BOWL
Interesting idea.
I’m trying to imagine MD’s version of the “Checkers” speech.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
"I am not a Putz"
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
by Matt Daddy on Jan 9, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Did you joke photoshop Richard Nixon's face onto Richard Nixon's body? How ingenious!
I don't mean to impose...
Nope
Seatbelts saved my life and the life of my future wife. I won’t drive without one and won’t drive unless every passenger is buckled up.
My parents believed in me.
Yeah as I’ve gotten older I’ve gotten really good about buckling my seatbelt. But I’ve driven with it off before. Like mostly back when I was 18-22 years old. But if you’ve never driven without a seatbelt in your entire life as you contend, that’s pretty amazing. Good job on that.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 3:33 PM PST up reply actions
Well, when your Mom and your Dad
are (former) US Marines you tend to do as you are told.
My parents believed in me.
He has a long history of problems
- 118 MPH speeding ticket
- Driving without a seatbelt
- Driving on a suspended license
- Driving without insurance (not because he didn’t buy insurance, but because his license was suspended)
- Possession of marijuana
Am I missing anything from his “long history of problems” while at the University of Oregon? I’ve done 2 of those things and knowingly been present for 3 others and I venture to guess a vast majority of people on ATQ have as well.
The guy got in trouble and was given a punishment. He got in trouble again and was given a more severe punishment. He got in trouble a third time and got kicked off the team. I agree with all of that. But not because he’s a menace to society. Because he’s high profile, he was held to a higher standard. Again, I’m totally fine with that, and support Chip’s decision to kick him off the team.
But it seems like some people think of Cliff as a horrible person or something and I don’t get where it’s coming from. He’s been a screw up, that’s for sure. I don’t know who’s pumping sunshine either. You do realize that you can give someone credit for a single act without saying “oh he’s all better now”, right? In fact, I explicitly said above that it doesn’t make him a better person.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed
The notion that he’s some kind of monster is ludicrous. He’s just….irresponsible. And somewhat short-sighted. But that’s what some 19 and 20 year olds are.
He didn’t steal anything. He didn’t get into a fight with anyone. He didn’t get a DUI or break into anyone’s house. He didn’t beat anyone up on national TV. He did screw up, and it’s clear that he wasn’t doing well at practice either – but that’s not the same thing as being some horrible guy.
Honestly, I’m very interested to hear about what else he’s done wrong – because doing what he did wouldn’t have been much of a mention at all in the Bellotti days.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I don't think he's a menace
and I’m certainly not calling him a monster.
His “long history of problems” begins in high school. Remember, he racked up 4,500 in traffic tickets BEFORE he got to Eugene, plus he scuffled with some campus cop that almost derailed his whole college career.
Cliff screwed up, repeatedly. He got punished, fairly.
I just refuse to believe that showing up to the Rose Bowl says anything about his maturation progress or is a measure of his character in any way.
My parents believed in me.
flyduckfly, I get where you are coming from.
It’s another case of 2 steps forward, 1 step back with Cliff. Just like when he was at Oregon. Practicing better, making plays on the field (2 steps forward), pulled over going 118 (1 step back). Huge interception and lock down corner against ASU (2 steps forward) safety in the endzone against Colorado (1 step back).
I think every action he takes after being let go from Oregon will demonstrate his progress. How he responds to where he’s drafted, statements to the press, practicing in the NFL, etc. Deciding whether to go or not to go to the Rose Bowl to support his teammates is one of those decisions. Choosing to go (2 steps forward). Leaving before the game is over (1 step back).
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The Daily Faberian
Well put.
but how much better would that story have been if he had stayed to the end and gave props to his teammates from the stands?
Instead he left early.
My parents believed in me.
I don't disagree
I know it would be hard to go and sit through the whole game myself. I think some people just see his mistakes as minor (just like leaving before the game is over… really a minor offense in all of this) and want to look for the bright side in the Cliff Harris story. I think everyone wants to see a Blount style happy ending. That will be up to Cliff.
It’s just like Cliff’s play on the field, it can be really exciting and extremely happy at times for the fans, but incredibly frustrating too.
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The Daily Faberian
To clarify
I don’t consider him leaving the game before its over as some kind of offense.
The imagery of Cliff leaving while so much still hung in the balance just struck me as poetic or something….all that unfinished business.
My parents believed in me.
Oh man,
can you imagine him seeing Chip holding back tears after embracing Kiko?
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
could "more to the story" possibly be referring to the rental car and possible ncaa violations?
if that were the case then he would have to remain silent.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
and remain slightly distant.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 1:20 PM PST up reply actions
It could be any number of things. The point is, when you look at the whole statement, it doesn’t seem like he’s “shirking responsibility”. If you read only the “more to the story” part it might. But not when you read the whole thing.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 1:22 PM PST up reply actions
He left before the game was over.
Yet another example of Cliff failing to see something through to its end.
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by Honka Playboy on Jan 9, 2012 10:40 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I don't know what it is but I do know that I ain't clicked on it
Sounds like a phishing expedition to me
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by Famous Duck on Jan 9, 2012 11:14 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
DELETE! DELETE!
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 1:21 PM PST up reply actions
Is he old enough to be in a bar.
That has to be some sort of violation.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
Does it matter?
Word on the street is he doesn’t care.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That face doesn't make me think he cares.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
De’Vante Harris decommited from Oklahoma, I think his cousin is Thomas Johnson, we already have a pair of twins in this recruiting class could we have cousins also?
The Legend
No.
Cal is in the mix.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
I didn’t say Johnson was committed to us but I think he will. One of the reasons why he decommited from Texas is because of all there WR commitments, Cal has 6 we only have 1 so he’ll have a better chance of playing here
The Legend
I think PondJunky is just point out that “WTF CAL HOW YOU SO GUD RECRUITNG SO BAD FUTBALLZ?!?”
I don't mean to impose...
by TheOcean on Jan 9, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow
That’s effing crazy!
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 12:34 PM PST up reply actions
he visits eugene in four days..... =)
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
I like our chances.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
I do think that we have a great shot.
Johnson seems more and more likely to go to a school other than Texas, and if Harris is looking around this late, it is a good sign. Our coaches always close strongly on the recruiting trail, so I’m sure we can pick up a few late commits, and maybe snag a few from other schools (a la Huff and DAT).
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
Yeah
IIRC, we did really, really well going into the late stages of the recruiting last year (including the super secret DAT pickup) and we didn’t have a Rose Bowl win to piggy back off of then.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
And we had one less week of recruiting with the NCG being so late in January.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
No, we had a national championship appearance.
I wonder what looks better to recruits: playing for and losing a championship or winning a BCS bowl game.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
Neither really
This late in the game, no one is going to be swayed by either. Now, having been to the BCSNCG will help with recruits this year, and winning the Rose Bowl will help with recruits next year.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
I don't think that's true
I think that Tuinei – a graduating senior – getting the MVP of the Rose Bowl helped quite a bit, especially considering that so many of these ‘late’ recruit visits are receivers.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
It's possible that LT's performance and DT's efficiency in that game opened some eyes.
The “late visits” you refer to do seem to be strangely coincidental.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Let me put it this way
They need to already have interest in Oregon for any of the results from the season to influence their decision. Now, going to the Rose in 2009, going to the BCSNCG in 2010 will help create that interest this year. Tui having a great Rose Bowl and us winning, can contribute to their interest level, but it’s not going to get someone to look at Oregon that wasn’t looking at them already.
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The Daily Faberian
Is there any evidence that the Thomas kid from Texas had any interest at all before he decomitted and signed up for a visit here?
That’s the one that interests me.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
I remember reading something online that said he showed some early interest in us. The same article said that when recruits start to waiver on their committment, Brown pulls their scholly offer.
In full disclosure, it’s just stuff I read on teh interwebs, so take it with several grains of salt.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
I guess that's what I mean.
For those on the fence, which is most appealing? Joining a team coming off a BCS victory or a team the barely lost the National Championship Game? I’m sure it’s different for most kids, but I would imagine the positive vibe around the program and the positive emotions that a victory can bring might edge someone toward one school over another.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
I think there are two main factors
1. (Especially for skill positions): How early will they be able to contribute? This is especially important if they forsee declaring for the draft before graduation. The question is, does a prep receiver look at a dropped pass and say, “I could have caught that” or does he, like DAT, see himself as the next Reggie Bush? I think it depends on the personality of the individual.
2. Where (if at all) do they see themselves on the team? DAT came to Oregon because Hello Kiffin wanted him to play DB (which he would have been awesome at, but that’s not where his heart was). Our season would have been very different if DAT didn’t change his committment.
Maybe it’s because I’m going to be 36 in a few weeks, but I think the unis are far less important than we give them credit for. Then again, I’m not a teenager.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
The DAT was gonna play CB thing
Is pretty overblown. That was the rumor, but interviews with DAT said otherwise – both Kiffin and DAT knew he’d be doing offense snaps with the team, and DAT and Kelly have both said that DAT would do whatever Kelly wanted him to.
My gut feeling is that DAT really, really liked some of the players he met and liked that Oregon wasn’t LA. It was as simple as that. He liked the university setting, liked Campbell, liked DT and liked the position he was going to play – which, apparently, is almost everything on the field. I don’t think Kiffin looked at him and said ’you’re awesome, we want you at corner’.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
That's not what I heard
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by Matt Daddy on Jan 9, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, I never saw a credible source that said Kiffy would only let him play DB.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
So yeah...
We may be kinda thin at RB next year. One injury and we are looking very thin.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
There isn't much experience there behind Barner.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
True
And it sucked in 2009 when our vaunted senior declared himself eligible for the draft by punching a BSU player (this, btw, is the best way to declare yourself eligible) and we had almost no depth behind him and…
sorry, LMJ just scored. Again.
What was I saying? Oh, right, because depth at RB is important, since freshmen RBs in the Oregon system have been so very, very bad. They’ve been unreliable…
sorry, DAT just scored from 90 yards. Again
They’ve had issues with training, and in general they’ve just not produced like our senior RBs…
sorry, DAT scored twice on the same play.
Anyway, what was I saying? Oh yeah, those freshmen RBs? They suck.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
by kalon on Jan 9, 2012 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
hahahahaha. point, set, match.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
So you’re saying they’re all system runningbacks?
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions
that term is often taken as an insult to a team
But it is actually a compliment to the oline and coaches. Oregon is successful due to our great RBs, usually solid oline and the best offensive mind in the nation. Even if our RBs are only good next year they will perform at a high level due to the line and proper coaching
by OregonNYC on Jan 9, 2012 2:03 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Ok....
By your reckoning we should never worry about depth at running back again, because, in one instance, our best running back in school history started playing early. Sound logic. I guess I will never have to worry again. Thank you Kalon.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
No problem
Any time!
Again, Oregon is stellar at getting production out of running backs. Even ones we aren’t expecting to be big players. LMJ was expected to be maybe the third stringer going into 2009. Jeremiah Johnson was good but not stellar, especially compared to Stewart. We’ve had consistent success at recruiting RBs, at training RBs, and at playing RBs. Why would you be concerned about it, especially when we’ve recently gotten 3 and 4 star recruits at RB + we have DAT?
Losing the greatest Duck to ever play is going to hurt, but saying we don’t have a lot of depth at RB and it’s an issue is just going into random PANIC mode because you want to freak out about something .Freak out about the fact that the receivers on the team currently caught about 400 yards of receptions this year. Freak out that we don’t have anyone to replace Eddie Pleasant. But freaking out because our depth chart includes DAT, Carson and Forde? Come on.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I was making a simple observation.
As I stated in the comment you replied to, there isn’t much experience behind Barner. I never said talent. Experience carries a lot of weight in how I evaluate teams. I would rather have experience.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
Really?
For a RB position it’s just not that important to me. While LMJ didn’t have his best season as a freshman it wasn’t that far off from later years (and was actually .8 ypc more as a freshman, probably due to Masoli’s running ability). And DAT showed how much talent really can matter this year. DT showed how much more talent mattered compared to Masoli’s experience.
I get what you’re saying, and I’d love to have some experience back there from a known commodity, but at the same time given a choice between talent and experience? I’ll take the talent.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Yeah, cuz, ya know, that whole Seastrunk thing worked out really nicely....
Experience allows us to know what we have. We’ve heard many coaches say, “You never know what you have until they show up.” I rewatched Pharoh Brown’s (see what I did there?) highlight tape on Friday. It was amazing-he is truly a man among boys-but until we see him perform against something better than high school athletes none of us have evaluated, we just don’t know. He could have glass ankles. Unproven talent (which even among the different recruiting sites is highly variable) is nothing more than hot air.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:45 PM PST up reply actions
So Seastrunk invalidates everything else?
Yes, we can miss on one recruit. It’s possible.
Do you think it’s likely that we miss on 5? And if so – how do we mitigate that? The only way I can think of doing is simply have more recruits! Which…we do.
We’re not talking about players that have never been in a game. Carson’s played meaningful snaps against first teamers, DAT showed how insane he is and Barner’s very good (if he comes back). Yes, it’s possible that every one of our recruits is as bad as Lache, but given history and their current performance that seems at best unlikely and at worst just someone wanting to freak their shit out because they really want to freak out about something.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
To be clear, I am not freaking out. I wasn't only talking about Seastrunk. I was using him as an example of how a highly touted recruit might not work out in every situation. He might be perfect for a more pro-style or other type of offense.
I agree the way to mitigate the situation is to have more recruits. I don’ t think Carson (who is clearly much better than Seastrunk) has seen enough downs for us to know whether he will be a success at Oregon. Fire forges weapons and he’s only been placed in lukewarm temperatures.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
Freak their shit out?
Come on man. That shit is getting old. I made a little statement. If I was “freaked out” you would know.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
LMJ would have been well over 2000 yards this year had he not been injured.
Finished with a shade over 1800 as it is. 2200, give or take, would have been very far off from 1500.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
This.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Was talking about fresh-soph
Not fresh-now. Keep in mind that LMJ didn’t start the first two games of 2009 either. This last season was by far his best in yards, YPC and pretty much everything else but he’s not exactly been improving insanely from year to year. He started awesome, played awesome and continued being awesome.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
OK, thought you meant then-to-now.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
Which is also what I thought.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't think that.
Or so I thought…
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
What were you thinking?
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 3:40 PM PST up reply actions
What he thought.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Experience carries a lot of weight in how I evaluate teams. I would rather have experience.
This is a big component of how Phil Steele does his preseason rankings. He had us ranked really poorly to start the 2009 season. After getting off to a bad start against Boise State, we rattled off wins over Purdue, #18 Utah, #6 Cal (42-3), then Washington St 52-6 to get to a 4-1 record. I asked him if that would get us into his top FIFTY and he said no, not yet.
Point being, experience obviously matters. But talent can certainly overcome a lack of experience. Especially when you get to start off with Arkansas State, Fresno State, Tennessee Tech, and Arizona (without Foles) at home, and then getting your first road game at WSU.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 3:42 PM PST up reply actions
It also depends on how you define experience. Does that mean playing a significant role on the team and getting playing time in game situations, or being a multi year starter.
By my definition, we have two experienced backs behind Barner, which is about as good as you can hope for.
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I agree with that. I think some people just go with returning starters, which is a huge mistake to make when looking at the Ducks due to how many players we rotate in, especially on defense. I mean, look at a possible starting lineup for the D next year:
CB – Hill
CB – Mitchell
Rov – Boyett
Saf – Ifo/Patterson
MLB – Alonso
WLB – Clay
SLB – Lokombo
DE – Dion Jordan
DE – Washington
DT – Hart
DT – Keliikipi
I realize that it might not look like that, but that’s not the point. The point is that strictly by "returning starters from the Rose Bowl, we’d only have 6. But you have to factor in that at least 4 of the other 5 “new” starters played a ton of snaps this year (Kiko, Lokombo, Ifo/Mitchell, Patterson). I mean, Kiko was the freaking Rose Bowl defensive mvp! Even though we lose basically half our starters, when you just glance at that lineup a casual fan might think we aren’t losing any.
by MarineCorpsDuck on Jan 9, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
That's fair.
I was primarily talking about skill positions, but I suppose there’s not that much difference. An O-line has the added requirement of needing to gel together. By experience, I mean the coaches have a good idea of where they can be utilized to their full potential. Personally, I don’t much care about rankings until at least weeks 6 (and possibly as late as week 9 for some teams).
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
I liked how Avery Patterson played when he was in for Pleasant
I’m not worried about the safties/rovers at all. Between Dargan/Patterson/James Scales/Brian Jackson and others, there’s a quality replacement in there.
Not sure what you're saying here.
We should just assume every newcomer is LMJ or DAT an not Seastrunk or Dontae Williams? That Our #1 back will miss only 2 games in 3 years to injury and we shouldn’t worry about it? That we can just plug a player in and get an 1800-yard season? Yeah, I guess I won’t worry. I’m completely comfortable with the idea that Anthony Blake and Ayele Forde can take us to the NCG if Barner leaves and DAT and Carson get injured.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
Okay
You should also freak out because we only have 4 QBs on the roster – what happens if DT gets hurt, Bennett leaves for the NFL early because he’s just that awesome and everyone else gets run over by a monster truck? WHAT HAPPENS THEN?
I’m saying, simply, that of all the positions that Oregon has dealt with in the past 15 years the most consistent performer has been the RB. And it’s not really close. We lost JStew and did fine with Blount of all people. We lost Blount and LMJ stepped up. We lost Morris and Smith stepped up. We have a long, great history of quality at RB, better than any other position, and there’s no reason to believe that Tra Carson or Forde can’t step up given that prior history. Really, the only other position that has equally been awesome in the last 12-15 years is safety, though that hasn’t been quite so great.
So yes, I’m saying given who Kelly has recruited, given how successful the RBs have been under Campbell and given that we still have DAT you should not be all that concerned about a lack of depth of only having 6 RBs on the roster.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
You're reaching way too far to make your point.
Running backs take hit almost every time they touch the ball, and most often are hit by several defenders on every play. And “Blount of all people” wasn’t some unknown walk-on or 2* scout player when he came here. James also was a guy who was recruited specifically to play the “lightning” role and the idea was for him to be JJ to Blount’s JStew/thunder role in ’09. Forde and the others like Blake are here to A) work with the scout team and B) keep their traps shut about getting touches.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
So what is your point, then?
That we don’t have any good talent at RB right now?
That a lack of experience at RB is going to doom Oregon?
That DAT/Carson can’t possibly be good, or that we can’t deal with injuries to them if Barner leaves?
I disagree with all of that. Yes, RBs are prone to injury. Yes, it’s possible that we could lose 5 or 6 in a season. Yes, an airplane could decapitate Chip Kelly. These things are possible. But what is likely?
What is likely is that Barner returns. What is likely is that even if he doesn’t return we will figure out how to use Carson/DAT/whomever and deal with it, possibly by opening up the passing game and possibly by finding out that one of the 6 other RBs on the roster can do some real work. What is likely is that we have one of if not the best RB coaching scheme in the NCAA and we will make those players better and awesome. Heck, we haven’t even looked at JC transfers like Blount was.
What is likely is that RB is not going to be a concern going forward barring a massive loss of multiple talents. Because that’s what Oregon is right now – a team that reloads at RB.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
by kalon on Jan 9, 2012 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The entire point of this thread is DEPTH.
And that some worry that we don’t have much. We’ve been lucky the last 2 years, riding LMJ when Barner had his concussion and having Barner healthy this year in time to cover for James. The worry is, who is the “feature back” if Barner goes down? Is DAT a guy you want carrying it 25 times at RB rather than getting touches in space all over the field? Is Tra going to be ready to fill that role? This isn’t the first time in the last couple of years this has come up. Last year when Barner was hurt we skated along with LJM getting as many as 36 carries in a game and Alston mopping up while trying to preserve the ‘shirts of Willams and Seastrunk (a futile effort as it turned out). This year Barner recovered from his ankle problems just in time to cover when LMJ’s elbow went Salavador Dali on him.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I don't see it that much as luck
I think having two outstanding backs like Barner and LMJ has been a luxury, but it’s not like we can’t make do without them. Production will suffer, no doubt; LMJ was something special and Barner (if he leaves) is great, but at the same time we have quality players, I believe, and i think people will step up.
Because for the last 12 years, people have stepped up.
Yes, we do not have 6 RB depth. We also haven’t needed 6 RB depth ever. If you’re really looking for the team to have 6 quality RBs because RBs get injured a lot, well, I think that’s a bit much to ask.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
You're listening, but you're not hearing.
No one is arguing whether or not we have quality backs. Depth is about more than just bodies. The point I am trying to make (and I think BGWM is too) is that we don’t know where and in what combination the backs will be used.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
And the point I was making fun of
Was saying how ‘thin’ we were at RB. Which is just obviously wrong. Then he was upset because we don’t have a lot of experience. Which…hasn’t been as big an issue.
Depth might be more than just bodies, but I’ve still not seen any indicator that we should be concerned that we don’t have quality talent there. Do you have a reason to think that Carson or DAT or Marshall or even Forde are not particularly talented?
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
How is it "just obviously wrong?"
You seem to assume that the kids on the sidelines are interchangeable parts. How is it “obvious?” If it were “obvious” this discussion would not be taking place.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
It’s obvious to folks who have followed Oregon football for 10 years. My bad!
Having 4-5 players at a position of historical strength is not ‘thin’. Returning a starter who tied the Pac-12 record for most all-purpose yards is not ‘thin’. Having 2 4-star recruits and a 5-star recruit at a position is not ‘thin’.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I've followed Ducks football for a couple of decades.
And I’ve seen plenty of seasons go sideways due to injuries. And having inexperienced true freshmen on the sidelines doesn’t mean you by definition have quality depth. We had Dontae Williams and Lache Seastrunk on the sidelines last year, if you remember. And JJ’s injury just before Dixon went down made a bad situation worse, because, drumroll, we didn’t have anyone capable of stepping in and assuming JJ’s role, which made it much harder to make up for the loss of Dixon. To whit: Sell out to stop Stewart and you stop the Oregon offense. That’s what Arizona did after the injury and UCLA did the following week. And it worked. With JJ in there alongside Snoop (or if indeed the guys on the sideline are interchangeable), the offense was much more dangerous.
Condescend all you want, but things aren’t “obvious.”
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
It wasn't exactly just Dixon's injury
The UCLA game was…well, brutal, because we had Roper in at QB – a what, 4th string QB? And Stewart was out as was JJ. And yes, that sucked – but it’s hardly common and was significantly bad because of the QB being gone.
If that’s the case, you should be a lot more worried about QB depth.
As MCD said, while we have to replace an all-world RB and the best Duck to ever play so far, we have two starting RBs behind him. You really can’t ask for more depth at a position than that.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I can't?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Not rationally, no.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
So signing Marshall would be a meaningless, irrational, fruitless gesture come February?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, that's what I said
Because saying two STARTING backups is the same thing as wanting no recruits.
For depth purposes, having two starting players behind a single player is about as good as you can get with 85 scholarships at a single position. For WRs you’d want more, of course. Same for some of the line. But for something like QB/RB/Safety? That’s really, really good.
Why this is even an argument…oh wait, it’s BGWM. Sorry, forgot who I was talking to.
Yes, you should be thrilled that we have so far two top RBs behind James who have playing experience in spades. In addition to that we also have a couple of good prospects.
Maybe I should just ask you, BGWM: what would you consider ‘not thin’ to mean at RB depth? How many starters would you need to consider the position ‘not thin’?
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
What the hell?
“Two starting players behind a single player?” “Starting backups?” Why do I have to reiterate yet again? I worry that if Barner goes out (which he has each of the poast 2 seasons), we have one guy who I’m not sure can handle running between the tackles 25+ times a game in DAT and one guy who played some but hasn’t yet shown he can be a featured back on an elite FBS team in Carson. That’s it. Plain and simple. I am waiting for more condescension.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds like this getting personal.
Peace! I’m done.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
Really, I thought we were just talking about personnel
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 9, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I think I'm done too
Enjoy the last word, BGWM.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Yeah.
I’ve only been a fan for 25 years, so should know my place. I’ll let it drop.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
That UCLA game never happened
Lalalalalala…. can’t hear you!
by INducktrination on Jan 9, 2012 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see anyone arguing with you. No one is freaking out, at least, not in an obvious manner.
No one is questioning the backs we have are talented. Forde would be a stud at nearly all the other schools in the Pac12. Since LMJ was such a god at RB we are not sure (and won’t be until at least the 3rd or 4th week of the 2012 season) What role each of the backs will take. Will they be able to fulfill the roles (feature, screen, check down/pressure valve, change of pace, etc.) we need them to fulfill, or will we change our offense to feature more traditional pass plays?
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Forde would be a stud at nearly all the other schools in the Pac12.
Uhhh, what? I mean, seriously, what the hell?
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I'm guessing he meant Barner
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
No. Most other schools have no running game.
OAC, Zona, Sparky, fUCLA, ‘loes, ’Utes, etc. I didn’t say he was objectively studly.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 3:43 PM PST up reply actions
Forde would not get significant playing time at any of those schools.
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Well, I hope he doesn't read AtQ.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry, DUD, but...
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by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 9, 2012 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
So, what you're saying is
I drafted Jordan Kent?
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
That's fair
My main point is that, once again, regardless of how we end up using them or how we change the offense the RB has been traditionally a very large source of strength for Oregon despite a lot of churn, and we have largely hit well on our recruiting.
I’m a lot more concerned with our OLine (which we have had occasionally issues replacing awesome players, at least immediately), our safety (while we do well here Pleasant has been great for a while now) and TE.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
you don't think that we are set for a couple years at OLine?
my impression was that most are pretty excited about the o-line. what are your concerns? is it just York?
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
"Poetry?"
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 10, 2012 10:03 AM PST up reply actions
Actually to add to that
I’d be concerned if we had a bunch of guys like Seastrunk – guys who we had heard grumblings from and who got passed on the depth chart by walkons like Forde. But…we don’t. Tra Carson is supposed to be very good and is by all accounts happy there. DAT is doing very well. Barner hasn’t declared. Williams is probably going to redshirt but might earn his way on, just like DAT did. Forde might even show up and get some reps. And that’s just who I know about off the top of my head.
I can understand that we don’t have perfect knowledge of the situation and that that causes some consternation. At the same time, we have a lot of reasons to be positive about RBs in general at Oregon and even more reasons to be positive about the ones we have.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
A snickeriffic rec to you, kind sir!
just in time to cover when LMJ’s elbow went Salavador Dali on him.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Also Forde
Who even got some playing time in with Carson.
Seriously, I’m really not worried. Oregon has become RB U the last 12 years. There are positions I’m concerned about not having a ton of experience at (WR, FS) – but RB? Gods no. We’ve got a great freshman commit and we have 6 other guys on the roster. Someone or multiple someones will step up.
No one is going to replace LMJ overnight, but at the same time we can get a lot of value from people at that position. We’ve shown that for so long that it really should be a truism. And that’s assuming that DAT doesn’t just flat-out win the position and destroy everyone.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Forde is often overlooked
In his minimal reps this season the one that stands out is his touchdown against OSU. That move he made to get into the endzone was brilliant. I think another off season of practice and strength training and he may become a great back. He tied the lead among RB’s in bench pressing as well at 295lbs.
Whoever is the primary back next year will have plenty of cupcakes to feast on at the beginning of the season.
I’m not sure if it’ll be enough to make him as obese as LaFatty, but it’ll be a good start.
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Duh
Offseason=Big Mac and Donut Season
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Let's not factor Forde into the crunch-time depth chart here.
He’s a good player, but his ceiling as a back is Remene Alston-type production.
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Maybe
One could have said the same thing about Jeremiah Johnson in 2008. He did okay.
Really, it’s very hard to tell given a very small sample size whether or not someone is going to explode over a season. It’s up to their motivation, their training, the opportunities given and how they react. There’s a lot more than just raw physical ability.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Jeremiah was 1B behind JStew and 1A ahead of Blount.
He always had more upside than Forde has. I think Forde will be a good piece as far as depth goes, but he’ll never be the featured back. He’s more than welcome to prove me wrong though. I like the way he runs.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
JJ was being groomed for big things from the start.
As Tako said, Forde is stuck with mop-up duty. Apples and oranges.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
He has to mop up apples and oranges?
Did Phil Knight install a real life version of fruit ninja in the locker room?
by mackjones23 on Jan 9, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
For now.
LMJ was third on the depth chart at the start of the season too. People think that the depth chart is this set in stone thing, but the reality is that Kelly doesn’t always know how to use his players to maximum effect and experiments as the season goes on. LMJ didn’t start until the third game, for instance – we think that sounds insane now, but at the time he was just a freshman who had redshirted his first year and had complained about being homesick.
Give Forde some real reps in practice along with Carson and DAT, have kelly ruminate on how to use ‘em and see what goes on. I don’t know if Forde is going to be amazing or milquetoast, but I’m not going to dismiss him just because he couldn’t get playing time behind Barner, DAT and LMJ.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
For now?
You want to lay odds that, absent attrition at RB, we’ll see Forde get meaningful playing time vs. maybe getting as many touches as Remene got his senior year mopping up?
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Do you want to lay odds that Blount doesn't punch someone?
Things happen.
All I know is that Forde couldn’t get on the field behind LMJ, Barner and DAT (and to a lesser extent Carson) this year. I also know he led all RBs at the bench press and looked okay in the spring game. He’s been in the system for all of two years, one of which where he was eligible to start. I also know he made the team despite not being recruited and worked hard enough to beat Lache Seastrunk on the depth chart.
I don’t know that he will be a starter or not or be a star or not. You’re probably right that he won’t be the most amazing guy out there. At the same time, I think that if he’s on the team he’ll be able to contribute.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
So you're saying no.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
I'm saying I'll give him and others the benefit of the doubt
You see 5 people on the depth chart without significant playing experience and freak out. I see 5 players that either got recruited by Kelly (who has largely been awesome at recruiting) or have worked their butts off to join the team and think that the team that has produced NFL RBs for the last 12 years will probably figure out how to make that work.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Freak out?
No. Overstating once again.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Here ya go
“We may be kinda thin at RB next year. One injury and we are looking very thin”
Very thin. Yes, if we lose one RB we have 4 others behind him. How is this ‘thin’ by any stretch of the imagination, especially when 3 of those 4 are highly-recruited players?
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Who are you quoting there?
And regardless, that is “freaking out?” I’m not sure you understand what the phrase “freaking out” means.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
That would be the OP
Okay, if you’re arguing about semantics we can just stop now.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
You are attempting to belittle my argument by suggesting I am being irrational.
Don’t even try to deny it.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Yep
Makes it even more impressive to me that he’s earned his way on the team.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I don’t think we’ll be seeing much of Forde in any meaningful snaps.
He’s probably an above average walk-on, but all his time has been in mop-up duty when the game was well in hand, and everybody just wanted the damn game to end – including the tired opposing players. (And many of the opposing players were walk-on defenders by the time they were on the field)
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Yep. If Forde sees more than a handful of emergency meaningful snaps next year, I feel like that’s a very bad sign. The fact that I’m even mentioning that seriously is an indicator that our depth at RB isn’t nearly where it has been in recent years.
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I don't see what's with all the hate on Forde
That being said, I think that Carson and DAT (assuming Barner leaves, which isn’t set in stone) are good starters, and having a couple others behind them is pretty great as far as depth goes. When have we had better than that? We didn’t have much better than that in 2009 with Blount/Crenshaw, we didn’t have better than that most years with JStew and JJ.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Hate on Forde? I prefer to look at it as realism. He’s not very good. You don’t win national championships with a walk-on playing significant snaps at just about any position.
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Hate?
Nobody “hates” Ayele Forde. He simply is what he is, no more and no less.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
This:
having a couple others behind them is pretty great as far as depth goes
is what most people are concerned about. “A couple others” isn’t a ringing endorsement. Those “couple others” are either true freshman (who almost certainly don’t come in with the talent of a DAT or LMJ) or they’re walk-ons who are fine for mop-up duty but not really options for taking snaps in close games against first team defenses. And that’s what we’d be looking at. I don’t think that’s great depth at all.
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So when have we had 'great depth' then?
Because from what I’ve seen that’s basically been our operation manual from the getgo: have one starting RB, one RB waiting in the wings and then a couple others that might be good but haven’t had the reps. That’s what it looked like as far back as Droughns. We went to Mo and Smith, then JStew and JJ, then JJ and Blount, then Blount and LMJ.
We haven’t had 3 or 4 great RBs at any point along the way.
Yes, we don’t likely have backups akin to the talent of LMJ and DAT (though to be fair we didn’t know how good LMJ was going to be until a few weeks into the season), but that isn’t the same as ‘bad depth’. To me, bad depth is if you lose a starter and that position is hosed. That’s not how we are. Even if we lose LMJ AND Barner we have DAT and Carson with potentially several others behind them. Forde is at best the 4th best RB on the team right now, and that’s still not too bad given how hard he’s worked. If we got to the point where Forde was getting lots of snaps I’d probably be worried too – but that would also mean that we would have lost 3 starters in one season and had no one else recruited and chose not to burn a redshirt.
And honestly, having that level of talent that deep is just not feasible. Players don’t want to come to a school and sit for multiple years if they’re good.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
If Barner stays, I think we’re fine. Not as much top end talent, but enough depth to be okay.
If Barner leaves? I think we’re in trouble. Now, this also assumes a similar type of offense that we’ve been using, which is pretty run-heavy and includes a lot of running between the tackles. I’m not sure DAT is build (yet) for that kind of workload, or even if he was, if that would be maximizing his production based on his skillset. So this is the depth chart as I see it (2011 on the left, 2012 on the right)
1. LMJ > DAT
2. Barner > Carson
3. DAT > Marshall
4. Carson >> Forde
5. Forde >> ???
If one of those guys gets hurt, it’s trouble. And yes, we have had that level of depth quite consistently. It doesn’t look like we’ll have it next year if Barner leaves.
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Forde is a fucking Chrysler and he will play a bunch next year.
It ain’t about saying hate, it’s about saying respect. Before LaMike got to ‘play’ people said “Oh, he’s too small and he ain’t proved his-self.” Maybe Forde hasn’t proved shit to you and you and you-know-who-you-are but the fuckin’ kid can play!
He’s got a great heart, great speed and he can both find and hit the hole. Some people on here ought to get the ego outta the way.
I put up with the bad shit about Stuckey and Bennett (still) and now here we go again.
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He will play a bunch next year. We have a really weak non-conference schedule.
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I think a lot of people were excited for LaMichael James…
And I don’t think that people have really been down on Stuckey.
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I've got no hate for Forde.
He’s a walk-on. He probably knows his place and situation on the team than anyone else. He isn’t some diamond in the rough.
He’s our latest Jide Shinaba, Andres Reed and Matt Larkin. Someone you want to see in a spring game, maybe get a TD against an FCS team, and running out the clock in a blow out.
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i don't know really anything about Forde
but when i listen to Jerry Allen he speaks like forde could “shock the world” so to speak. i assumed that just Jerry who dotes over just about any duck. lol So, have you watched him in practice, but i understand your thoughts of him are average at best potential. is that correct?
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
I’m basing my conclusion over what I’ve seen in person at games, the situations he’s played and the fact that he’s a walk-on. He isn’t a “walk-on” in the way TJ Ward was, he’s a legit walk-on skill position. Maybe above average for a walk-on, but his ceiling was realized in high school which is why he wasn’t recruited.
He gets a lot of praise because he had a fun Spring Game and he was beating Seastrunk for playing time, but so much of that is a reflection of Seastrunk too.
I’ll say he’s probably the best Walk-On running back we’ve had in a while. But he was completely off the recruiting books in High School, and it wasn’t because he was an unknown (He was an All-League RB in HS)
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oh but wasn't JStew and JJ great! i loved that combo.
think of the best Civil War victory ever, in my mind, the most fun to watch….. on YouTube,…“No Roses For Beavers” hahah it’s still my favorite youtube video ever.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Comparing Jeremiah Johnson to Ayle Ford is like comparing Whitehead to Jstew.
JJ was made it known fairly early that he was going to be pretty good back in 2007 before he got injured
im afraid you didn't stretch your analogy quite far enough...
JJ is a stud, Forde i hardly know. but whitehead was a starter wasn’t he?
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Not even...
Alston > Forde
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No one is going to replace LMJ overnight
Barner. If (when?) he comes back, he has the talent to be able to mostly replace LMJ, IMO.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm assuming Barner is also gone
If he’s back that’s awesome, but I’m not taking it for granted.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Barner would be well served to stay.
His entire resume roughly equals one season of work by LMJ. If he can do that in one year as the #1 RB, he goes from late-rounder/UFA to maybe 3rd round.
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by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What makes you assume that he's gone?
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'm trying to be the most pessimistic in this argument I can be
I assume Barner and LMJ are gone and DAT gets arrested for being completely fabulous sometime during the offseason and decides to use his speed to literally be a drug runner.
And losing all of them, we’d still have 5 guys that I know of that could start.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Well then just assume that Chip is headed to the NFL.
I don’t think Barner staying is that much of a stretch. Seems it’s more likely he’ll stay. And if him and DAT are gone, we’re in trouble. Part of the reason I’m ok with our current depth chart at RB is DAT, cause he’s so dynamic and proven. Lose both those guys, and I’ll get sick to my stomach.
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by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
The OP was talking about depth if Barner left
So…there ya go. The rest of my statement is somewhat tongue in cheek.
I’d be sick to my stomach losing DAT because DAT is friggin awesome. Has nothing to do with him being a good RB. Honestly, I’m a lot more concerned about York’s injury than I am backups at the RB position. The line is the thing that makes or breaks this team.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
LOL!! times are GOOD duck fan, Good!
can lose a smile in all that worry. so funny though.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
his girls family are oregonians and the nfl would ship him to X
plus, he’s not in need of money.
plus, a year as a feature would do well for him, don’t you think? (im not an nfl guy, so i don’t even guess)
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
yardage wise I agree
There won’t be a huge per game difference, but even if Barner averages 130 to James 150 those extra 20 yards could be critical. DAT and Tra will need to step up a bit, we are losing arguable the best duck ever in James
by OregonNYC on Jan 9, 2012 2:06 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I don't think this is exactly true
While I have a ton of confidence in Kenjon and I know he’s going to be great, he doesn’t quite have the power of LMJ. With LMJ, on a 3rd or 4th and goal, you could count on those 6 pts absolutely. That hasn’t always been the case with Kenjon. Again, I think he’s going to really be great for us next year, but I do think we should recognize that he isn’t a LaMike.
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True.
He won’t be LaMike. I guess I’m assuming that we haven’t seen everything Barner can do, especially considering he’s going into his senior season and will for the first time will be The Man. Everytime he’s had to step in for LaMichael, he’s been outstanding. There are times LaMike didn’t make it in either, but he’s had so many more opportunities, it’s easy to look past. Barner has had far fewer touches, especially around the goal line. However, in some of our best time-killing drives, it was Barner getting those last tough yards to get us a first down and extend the drive. He’s no LaMike, but I think he’s going to surprise us next year with how tough and physical he really is.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Completely agree...Kenjon isn't nearly as strong in the lower body as LMJ and doesn't have as good as balance.
I love KB but you rarely see him shed tackles.
What about Dunmore?
I remember watching a video of someone saying they like to be on D becasue they get to hit people. Was that him?
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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions
So, assuming this is the depth chart next year,
what are the chances that Marshall redshirts? I doubt many would have guessed that this year, coming in with both LMJ and Barner, that we’d play two true freshman. If Marshall comes in and looks good – not setting the world on fire like DAT, just ready to make some contributions, I’d have to think he’s just about certain to get snaps early in the season. One injury at the top and suddenly might be needing him. And with our early season slate, there’s going to be a tremendous amount of garbage time.
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by omb on Jan 9, 2012 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
I would say he does.
It also depends on how much Carson progresses in the offseason.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
They will work to preserve the 'shirt.
“Getting some snaps early in the season” then sitting on the sidelines seems to be a waste.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I agree that it seems like a waste,
but that also seems to be what they did with Carson this year, working him in early on and then using him mostly for mop-up down the stretch. I wonder if they might be quick to do the same thing with a depth chart that looks even less deep this year.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 9, 2012 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
Isn't DJ Foster also considering us?
Or has he already committed elsewhere
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 9, 2012 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
Rivals has him high on USC, Cal and ASU
It felt like he dropped us after we accepted Marshall’s commitment. He probably still goes to ASU unless Graham fucks up. I heard Trey Williams was considering visiting us, that would be a lot of fun.
I do think we wind up with another RB in this cycle.
by INducktrination on Jan 9, 2012 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
bummer
rumor mill had some oregon interest by dj foster doesn’t it?
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
It was us and ASU for the longest time
Stay home with ASU coeds, or go to the new RB U. But his interest just tapered off after Marshall committed. I still think we’re in it for him but we took a hit in his interest level accepting someone else but now we’re on the outside with Cal and USC ahead of us.
by INducktrination on Jan 9, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
From what I've seen,
He is down to ASU, USC, and Cal, yes, that Cal.
I hope I’m wrong, Foster has some seriously quick wheels.
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
We're going to go after him really hard. We need him, really.
"Ain't no tuition for having no ambition." -Brandon Carswell
Please
And thank you.
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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
This (and last) year, we were a run first team.
If we have personnel capable of consistently catching the ball, I can’t see why we wouldn’t pass more frequently.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 12:52 PM PST up reply actions
agree 100%! i love to watch some of Chips pass happy spread at NH on tape some time.
by the way i hope there are no hard feeling from last nights chat. i meant no harm or disrespect.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
that was for KJ Brophy
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I haven’t seen a lot of Chip’s offense at NH but he’s always said he’ll always do what’s best for the offense & while Kenjon will be one of the best players on offense if we still use DAT in the multi-purpose role our passing game might be better then the running game, also Kenjon is better at receiving then LaMike so we can use him out of the backfield on screens.
As far as last night don’t worry about it, I’m sure you didn’t really piss me off & I’m sure I’ve said something that I thought would of pissed someone off here
The Legend
I'm not sure we'll see much of a change. We still have basically the same personnel absent of LaMichael James.
I think things will stay pretty much the same, and I think that’s good.
Things like that.
I think there will definitely be a dropoff,
but honestly I tend to think that no matter what, runningbacks will have good production in this offense. Barner/Marshall/Carson could be a very solid trio (I’m not including DeAnthony because who knows what the hell he even plays. I wouldn’t put it past Chip to run him at some sort of speed center position or something).
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HELLO DEFENDING ROSE BOWL CHAMPS AND 3 TIME CONFERENCE CHAMPIONS!!
i just want everyone to know that i AM a nice guy. i get told it all the time! “You’re soooo nice!” and “You’re so sweet” etc.etc. so don’t take anything i type as a personal attack. please understand that im always smiling, i love stretching conversations, I LOVE THE DUCKS, and sometime my humor is dry and english, sometimes it’s political or social, whatever. Not everyone will get it, BUT IT IS ALWAYS MEANT IN FUN!
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that really soo wrong?!
seriously...
i volunteer at a homeless shelter for people with cronic to fatal illnesses, i just paid for my neighbor across the hall’s chemotherapy treatments for the month and im helping my elderly neighbor downstairs move to another part of town to avoid the downtown crack-heads who are always trying to break into her apartment (even though i have no car and im disabled). This is what i do when im not completing a double major of Philosophy and Political Science at the University of California – Davis (belotti’s alma mater) and prepping myself for Law School.
so please, understand that im not being a dick.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Pictures or GTFO!
/kidding
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
ooh, i have some pretty messed up pictures alright...
this is not a good forum…. anatomy class would be better.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
i know right!
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
I'm sure some of your best friends are black
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
my life, once i left the McKenzie River, has been a huge moving Benetton ad, thankfully.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
you're trying to hard to be a good guy
Embrace the dickishness, just like Chip and his giant balls
by OregonNYC on Jan 9, 2012 2:07 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
LOL. no i have to try extra hard to stop offending some pretty sensitive people, i guess. it's an apology/commentary.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
No living man can embrace Chip's balls.
Too great a circumference.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
And live.
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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
i have extremely long arms and very broad shoulders =) i can try.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
I feel like I just tuned in half way into a reality TV show.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
You should try watching this show that's on loop in my living room
essentially this hairstylist takes over and runs places like Gordon Ramsey gone foo foo.
Help me!
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Did you lose the remote?
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Does having a sister around count?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
that's a winner
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, but this doesn't make Oregon a basketball school, I hope you realize that.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
remember, we were using different criteria. and you agreed with my points at the end. =)
im not being exclusive. we can be more than a one man band. =)
and i can feel how i want. i haven’t been to eugene in nearly 15 years, have never been to the new autzen. so my experience will always remember oregon as a basketball school, relative to OREGON fans support, not to Duke or Kentucky. plus i said right away that the football team had overshadowed the basketball team. no one caught that. i just said that that was a new development. =) peace
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
I gave one great reason why we can call Oregon a basketball school, and only got one rec out of it.
My brilliance just isn’t appreciated around here.
"You could almost imagine Ducks coach Chip Kelly walking to midfield among the bloodied Bruins and shouting in his best gladiator voice, 'Are you not entertained?'" - Ted Miller
by CougarDuck on Jan 9, 2012 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
it was pretty funny. can i rec your requested rec?
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
done
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
by the way, that rec was from me last night.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
before i turned into a warewolf and started eating everyone.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks!
"You could almost imagine Ducks coach Chip Kelly walking to midfield among the bloodied Bruins and shouting in his best gladiator voice, 'Are you not entertained?'" - Ted Miller
its disgraceful isn't it. =)
capitalization is old school. =) quite a few grammar nazi’s around on this site though. keeerrrttt and Bill Musgrave for sure loooooooove that spelling and grammar. (it’s never got me hard)
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
gotten,…it’s never gotten me hard. whoa, almost missed that
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
Honest question: Why don’t you capitalize? I’ve seen this more and more on messageboards and I just skip over posts where people don’t use capitalization. I wouldn’t call myself a grammar Nazi; I appreciate proper grammar and spelling, but I’m not going to call someone out if they miss an apostrophe or misuse a homophone (unless it would be particularly funny to do so).
But the non-capitalization thing is a conscious decision to ignore a relatively important part of English grammar. So why eschew it?
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Hey Dana!
What did you think about the effort last night?
Did you know that Loyd is probably out for a while, and you could really use Brown and Barron right now, and that
@Prehmmr 9m
Washington head coach Lorenzo Romar announces freshmen TE Austin Seferin-Jenkins joined the team. Dawgs need help down low. Was good in HS.
Sad Altman is Sad.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
That's great!
I missed last night’s broadcast and open thread. What happened to Lloyd?
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
Wrenched his knee pretty good
had to be carried off the court by Olu and Singler. I’m not optimistic we’ll see him again this season.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Well that sucks.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Good thing we've got those two stud freshmen waiting in the wings!
/checksroster
/takesanothershotofwhiskey
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
That first picture always make me think of
“They’re after me Lucky Charms”
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Indeed.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
by JShufelt on Jan 9, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 11 recs
HA!
Fastest. Rec. Evah.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Jan 9, 2012 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
OMG
Put a bowler hat on him and we really ARE the Fighin’ Altmans!
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
awesome! can you get a pipe hanging from his mouth?
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
@ryanmgreene
Ryan Greene
A bit of future #UNLV scheduling news to pass along: Rebels will host a four-team event at the T&M over Thanksgiving weekend next season.
@ryanmgreene
Ryan Greene
The event will feature (obviously) #UNLV, Iowa State, Cincinnati and Oregon. Should be a pretty solid two-day deal.
The Legend
You won't be of age yet, tho, right?
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
what's done in vegas, stays in vegas.... could make a man out of him
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Screw that.
gotta be a place for 19 year olds to gamble and mess around in Las Vegas.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Well you could go play at the arcade
at Circus Circus with the other…um…youths.
ATQ's #1 fan of WINNING THE ROSE BOWL
Like I said
gotta be an 18+ casino or five.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Well,
seeing as Nevada state law dictates that you must be 21+ to gamble, good luck finding that 18+ place you’re looking for.
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
I dont know how old you have to be to gamble in Oregon, but at least it was just 18+ in California!
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
This.
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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 10:03 PM PST up reply actions
really nice! im close enough to go....
we’ll see, im not spending the money unless by that time next season we are back in the Pac12 race.
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 3:08 PM PST up reply actions
I enjoyed him talking about constantly thinking about what was going to happen in the game, and yes, the hypotheticals.
I think that obviously affected him after long layoffs in the big games. It’s a big step forward for him as a coach that didn’t happen this year in the Rose Bowl.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Everyone likes him but other fans
It’s funny that way. ESPN loves him. Other coaches go out of their way to hang out with him and he has a lot of good relationships with coaches from the Pac-12 and elsewhere. The media mostly like him. Players tend to really like him.
It’s just local media and other fans that hate his ass.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
You are aware the Dos Equis posters were photoshopped, right?
Chip doesn’t really let Riley clean up his empties. 8-P
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And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
NOOOOO
Next thing you’ll tell me is that Santa isn’t real.
Kelly does have good relationships with Sark and apparently has shot the shit with Leach, and him and Bielema hung out alone in the bleachers talking about…something. Jon Gruden has a mancrush on Kelly and Spoelstra likes talking with him too. And didn’t he hang out with Petersen for a while?
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
friends in high places =)
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Surely I’m not the only one with a complete lack of interest in this game. I am completely blasé about seeing a game that was a complete bore the first time it was played.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 9, 2012 3:28 PM PST reply actions
Seeing the pregame is actually getting me excited to watch it.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I just realized that I used complete (or one of its forms) three times in the span of 2 fairly short sentences, so sorry about that.
Chip can’t even get me excited for it. The whole “SEC Battle in SEC Country” motif was tiresome a month ago, and it’s nearly unbearable now. I’d rather see exciting, offensive football.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 9, 2012 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Not watching ESPN sure does make my life more enjoyable. I’ve seen far more Rose Bowl hype than national championship game hype this year.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I try to avoid ESPN unless I’m watching a game or a documentary (not that I watch much TV anyway.) Constantly hearing about the game has still been unavoidable.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 9, 2012 3:39 PM PST up reply actions
Well, you live in Chicago.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 9, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
only time i hear about it in sacramento is when im on this site
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by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
I agree.
Not watching ESPN is awesome. What I really love about the internet age, is that I can get information exclusively on the teams I care about, and only the teams I care about.
Watching ESPN sucks, because I disagree with their usual agendas, and I dont care about the BoSox, Yankees, Packers, Steelers, (99% of their “coverage”)etc…
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
by CaDuck on Jan 9, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I hated the fact that despite there being no NBA for a couple months, they refused to devote more time to hockey because they don’t show any of the games. As a result, I barely watch any ESPN any more outside of live games. Maybe I’ll have SportsCenter on in the background occasionally, but that’s it.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Even the time that they do devote to the NHL,
consists of “OMG SIDNEY CROSBY OMG ALEXANDER OVECHKIN OMG”
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
Does ESPN ever show NHL games?
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
Not since the lockout. Thanks, Bettman!
NHL2Nite on ESPN was a fantastic show. They would do a couple games a week (with Gary Thorne and Bill Clement, which was a great announcing team) and do their studio show. After the lockout, ESPN (understandably) gave the NHL a pretty low TV offer. Versus gave them a higher offer, so Bettman took it from Versus.
So, coming out of this lockout that dumped virtually every single casual fan the NHL had, instead of biting the financial bullet (which wasn’t even that big a deal, considering salaries were now tied to revenues) and getting your new and improved product out there to a ton of eyeballs, Bettman hitched his wagon to Versus, leading to hundreds of “Do I even get that channel?” jokes for the next 5 years.
Now with Versus becoming NBC’s sports network, we’ll have to see if Bettman winds up being smarter than I give him credit for. I still think, though, that they made a bad decision for a small short-term gain over long-term growth.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I figured something like that was going on.
We went to the LA Kings/Vancouver Canucks game, and I’m all jazzed about NHL hockey again after essentially being removed to it because it isn’t ever on TV.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
If you know where Versus/NBC Sports is on your cable, there is a LOT more hockey on TV than there has been the last few years. The NHL got a new deal this year, probably because NBC wants something to hang its hat on with this new network, and they’re showing three or four games every week now instead of just one or two.
Just don’t watch my Ducks. They’re abysmal this year. I wouldn’t want anyone to get turned off of hockey watching them play.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I don’t have cable.
And I know what you mean. I’m an Avalanche fan. I’m amazed they are above .500.
But really, if you’re a fan in the Western, unless you’re in the Central division, Vancouver, or San Jose… you’re kinda sucking.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
Ahh the Avs. My second favorite team, actually. We got tickets to go see them on New Year’s Eve with a bunch of friends. We made a whole evening out of it. Worst hockey game I’ve ever seen live (taking into account level of play, atmosphere, etc.). What made it even worse is that it was unseasonably warm, even for SoCal, and the ice was terrible.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
Ha! We were actually debating going to that game over the Kings and Canucks.
1. The issues were that the Staples Center was a lot closer to the hotel
2. No rooting interests in the Kings and Canucks. Everyone, except me, would be cheering for the Ducks
3. There could be bad karma if we saw the ducks lose.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
I got a $10 nosebleed to the Clips and Blazers.
That was something else.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Is the NBA good from up in the rafters? The NHL is pretty good up there; you actually get a good view of the flow of the game. I’ve never been to an NBA game though.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I hadn't been to an NBA game in many, many years
after kicking myself for turning down a ticket to a game that wound up being the Brandon Roy party vs. Dallas, I jumped at the chance.
I still roundly prefer college ball, but it was fun, I could see and follow all the ball movement pretty well.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Is the NBA good from up in the rafters?
This really depends on the building. I’ve only been to the Rose Garden in Portland, and I always sit in the cheap seats and its fine. I have friends who have been to Staples and MSG and tell me its much higher up and a lot worse.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I've tried and tried to get into the NHL.
Just can’t do it. If we had a team in Portland, I probably would. I go to a few ‘hawks games every year and really enjoy it. But I just can’t get into it via TV.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 4:26 PM PST up reply actions
I guess I’m kind of an oddball in that regard. I LOVE the flow of hockey. And watching it for the past 20 years on TV (since I haven’t had the money to attend a lot of games) has given me an appreciation for it. It’s just second nature now to the point where I don’t even understand when I watch with friends and they complain about not being able to follow the puck. “It’s right there!” I tell them.
It is a lot better in person. That I’ll admit. The atmosphere is great, and it’s better for viewing since you can see entire plays develop that you may not be able to get on TV. Sitting up close gives you an appreciation for how strong and fast the athletes are as well.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
I never liked hockey until I saw it in person.
The team here is just a junior league that plays against Portland, Seattle, and some others. But it’s a lot of fun to be part of the crowd going nuts with every play.
"You could almost imagine Ducks coach Chip Kelly walking to midfield among the bloodied Bruins and shouting in his best gladiator voice, 'Are you not entertained?'" - Ted Miller
BoSox, Yankees, Packers, Steelers, (99% of their "coverage")
TEBOW!
by INducktrination on Jan 9, 2012 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
hallelujah! and amen!
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
You know what I'd like to see? Both.
Like USC put together at the height of the Carroll era. One of the things that bugs me the most about the “SEC IZ GAWD BECAUSE DEFENSE IS THE ONLY REAL FOOTBALL” deal is that it’s just plain wrong. People keep asking wow, I wonder what these SEC defenses would look like with real offenses. The beautiful thing is that you don’t have to work too hard to imagine it. USC right around the Reggie Bush era managed to put together near NFL-ready defenses AND offenses, and it was a beautiful thing to watch (except when they were killing your team). And you couldn’t dog it for being “fraudulent” or some such nonsense. It really is just insulting to our intelligence when LSU and Bama don’t even try to play offense, and then a bunch of ESECPN honk tell us it’s as good as it gets.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 9, 2012 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Naw, that's just the bonerpillz
Make sure you don’t watch it for more than 4 hours, tho.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
The atmosphere wil make it interesting.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
As it was said elsewhere...
It kinda sucks to look at the TV schedule and see nothing but reruns on tonight.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
im with you to a point.
im curious to see who the actual SEC champion is, but that’s the only interest it holds for me.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone who's a fan of Radiohead and live in California should know that they're playing Coachella this year
Also headlining are The Black Keys, Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre
by FromAutzenWithLove on Jan 9, 2012 4:45 PM PST reply actions
sweet!
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
dessert concert?
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
How awesome is it that we can talk about the Ducks getting to the BCS champ game?
…and be totally seriously and not: “lol, no IT COULD HAPPEN IF!” Good gracious, it’s great to be a Duck fan and support the ROSE BOWL CHAMPIONS.
"It’s great with these group of guys. There is no panic in them." --Chip Kelly, Clearly NOT talking about members of ATQ.
@jblair26
by M. Fletcher on Jan 9, 2012 4:49 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you. Let's watch Breaking Bad instead.
"It’s great with these group of guys. There is no panic in them." --Chip Kelly, Clearly NOT talking about members of ATQ.
@jblair26
ugh
You guys all talked about that show so much I decided to start watching it on Netflix. I’m on the last episode of Season 3. What a great show, but it’s killed any opportunity for sleep in the last 2 weeks because I just have to see what happens next.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Irony?
Not sleeping because you’re watching a show about meth.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe he's not *just* watching it...
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Even worse, I feel addict to to the show
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
I went through the same thing.
I had to use some shady sites to watch season 4 and I’m pretty sure I git a virus. The whole time I knew I was going to get one to, but I had to see what happened.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
So, what I've gleaned about Breaking Bad is as follows
It gets you hooked on very dangerous drugs
It gives you STDs
It’s the best show ever
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
I'm with you
I’m on episode 2 of season 2. My girlfriend and I are hooked on it. Thanks ATQ.
by INducktrination on Jan 9, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
I've had trouble getting interested in that show.
I understand that it is intended to be a drama, I just simply do not care about any of the drama. I think the montages of cooking meth are far more entertaining than the endless family drama. I think I am about halfway through the second season.
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
It got too depressing for us. It’s a fantastic show, but we found we were unable to watch it when there was something lighter on our DVR. We’ve seen the first three seasons, and have the fourth completely recorded on our DVR, but it’s just sitting there waiting for us to bite the bullet.
If the family drama thing is your problem, I have a feeling you’ll get more interested in it the next season and a half.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
(I’m not loony, just watching the Rose Bowl again)
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
LSU BECAUSE THEY BEAT US!
OR
MAYBE ALABAMA BECAUSE THAT WILL MAKE THE BCS LOOK EVEN MORE STUPID (YES, THAT MAY BE POSSIBLE)!
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
If Alabama wins, I would feel bad for LSU for a long time.
Who won their conference? Who played an extra game? Who already beat their opponent earlier in the year? – Their accomplishments are so much bigger, only to lose to ‘Bama… who didn’t win their conference, didn’t have to play in the conference championship and already lost to LSU.
That would be shitty.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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by JShufelt on Jan 9, 2012 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
If Alabama wins, they need to subject the country to 'bammy/Tigers III.
“This time, NO ONE will watch!”
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
When you put it that way
GO BAMA. Not really, I want LSU to win, because as much as I respect Saban, he’s not really easy to like. Miles and LSU have been great to watch all year.
"the putz from that UO blog, Matt Daddy" - Steve Tannen
The Daily Faberian
Screw the BCS
Go BAMA! Fuck over the system!
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
I don’t see this as a “fuck over the system” situation.
Bama winning would be a “System fucked over LSU”.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
Bama wins and we have a split national title
no agreement, except there wouldn’t be one with a playoff.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
wouldn't be one *issue
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
There probably would be a split.
But it won’t be the “one that counts”, which is the BCS.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
this!
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
i think it would be an interesting story if LSU wins another boring low scoring game.
because then when you think about it, all the BCS will have done is redo a football game but to do it in a way that the schools make no money off of it while the bcs rolls in dough. after all, don’t they school lose money on these trips, and think of all the money the schools made the first time around on ticket sales and tv royalties.
i think that looks really, really bad for the bcs. if the story gets told.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 5:10 PM PST up reply actions
I know that schools in small time bowls lose money on their bowl games because they obviously can’t sell any tickets and the payout is crap. But since both LSU and Alabama sold their ticket allotment, and will both be splitting the 44 million dollars total in bowl revenue with their conference, they’re bound to come out in the black, right?
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
it’s still a story.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
You'd think that was the case with Auburn/Oregon too
Both sold out their allotments easily in the most popular bowl in history. Both had strong contingents of fans (tthough to be fair Auburn’s was way stronger). Both schools ended up losing about half a mil for various things.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
YAY WOOHOO..What now?
DAT and Mannion make the FWAA All American team. Yes, that Mannion.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
He had a pretty good year,
considering he was a freshman quarterback in the Pac-12 starting on a truly terrible team.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 9, 2012 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, I guess I was paying too much attention to the bavers W-L record
I’m glad they have something to look forward to next year.
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
Their running game was absolutely terrible.
All they could do is throw. It was a bit like the year when Derek Anderson carried their team to a bowl game all by himself. Except the receivers, o-line, and entire defense were much worse as well.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 9, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
So what your saying is
Maybe Ayele COULD be a stud RB at OAC?
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
Can you name another starting freshman QB other than Mannion?
Other than Texas’ craptastic duo of McCoy and Ashe, I can’t.
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
Not this year.
No
¡Me gustan las tortugas!
And Cliff Harris was like, "VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
by DuckUntilDeath on Jan 9, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
I thought Jerry Jones showed us what happens when you fuck up.
@ralphDrussoAP Ticket problem at the Superdome. Fans have seats that were turned into media overflow (H/T
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Bet those seats were for 'bammers.
The game IS in N’Arlins. Geaux Tigers and all.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 5:18 PM PST up reply actions
A Saintsation on Twitter was complaining about it.
Prediction: LSU beats Bama, OkSt thumps Stanford, Oregon wins the Granddaddy, & USC fans claim USC deserves the title (@TrailBlazinPDX)
by AllSaintsDay on Jan 9, 2012 5:23 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
Wow.
I’m sure that’s not the last or loudest complaining we’ll hear about this game.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
Considering the volume of quack on here
should we make an open thread for Ignore the BCS night?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
My favorite prop bet for tonight
Over/Under references to Katrina: 3.5
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Nothin' says "fun" like profiting on tragedy!
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
Over. Way the hell over.
Prediction: LSU beats Bama, OkSt thumps Stanford, Oregon wins the Granddaddy, & USC fans claim USC deserves the title (@TrailBlazinPDX)
by AllSaintsDay on Jan 9, 2012 5:21 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions
I thought I warned you not to show up here
actually, stay awhile. Might be fun to have someone with a dog in the fight around.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
It's too bad that there can't be a flyover in a dome.
The Rose Bowl flyover was awesome.
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
ESPN TOOK OUR GODDAMN MOTIVATIONAL SONG
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
it kinda sounds like an immigrant singing our national anthem in the South of all places...
awesome on so many levels
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
there is a game on tonight??? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
I won’t be watching, with Blazer games on last night and the next two nights, I need a night off sports. I hope LSU wins, though. They’ve already beaten everyone, they shouldn’t have to play Bama again.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
I need a night off sports
Sorry, I don’t speak your language.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
PulpFictionese?
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 5:26 PM PST up reply actions
you don't have a wife and three kids
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
...How do you know?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
because I'm fairly convinced that there on no women on this planet who are that stupid
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by David Piper on Jan 9, 2012 5:45 PM PST up reply actions 8 recs
hmph.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Jan 9, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
...is the guy from the AllState commercials an honorary captain?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
That's a Big Boy Derp right thur.
Done of that pansy Pac-12 derpatude.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
has anyone else entertained the idea that we would have been better off agaisnt LSU with Jefferson instead of Lee?
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
what's your conclusion?
every time i watch jefferson (not much) he just seems like his brain is always turned off.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think it mattered
It wasn’t their offense that won that game. Our D played great, it was the T.O.s that lost that game
They didn't make many mistakes.
LSU’s O so far has been a derpfest.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 9, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
you don't think Jefferson would have made some really dumb moves, turned the ball over?
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Gentlemen, start your funnels
@darrenrovell 1m
Place to be tonight? Beef O’Brady’s. Serving 50 cent, 10 oz Bud Light’s until 1st BCS title game score (H/T @mfflcommish)
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
big return puts bama at the edge of field goal range… get over there fast. then again, it is the bama kicker, so HAVE A GREAT TIME!
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
by Quacker Backer on Jan 9, 2012 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
If he hadn't pulled up hurt, that could have been the score right there.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Jan 9, 2012 5:48 PM PST up reply actions
FANTASTIC two inch run right there. amazing
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
really nice throw into the 20th row. excellent display of football skills so far
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
WONDERFUL 5 yard drive. most impressive.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
Lets have a FG time
Lets have a FG time
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
by axemen23 on Jan 9, 2012 5:52 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Oy vey.
Ducks GOOOOD. Fuskies BAAAAAD.
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Jan 9, 2012 5:53 PM PST reply actions
this leaves me with such respect for the concept of STRETCHING the field.
i just want to be loved (by matt daddy) is that soo wrong?!
Since this thread already has almost 500 comments...
Let’s move all BCS comments here.
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