Oregon Football Recruiting: Chip Kelly Announces 21 New Ducks in 2012 Class
by jtlight on Feb 1, 2012 11:21 AM PST
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The moment has arrived Duck fans. After searching for clues as to who has sent in their letters of intent, Chip Kelly is announcing the 2012 recruiting class at 11:30AM PST.
Oregon has announced that 21 high school players have signed with the Ducks, which is exactly what we expected (check our earlier post this morning for some quick analysis). The quality of the class means that it should end up ranked in the 10-20 range from the various recruiting services. Yet, despite the strong class, there wasn't a lot of excitement today. After the early commitments of Bralon Addison and Chance Allen, it was mostly a day for "watching" the fax machine. And while other schools deal with last minute switches, I kind of like how Oregon's classes have been shaping up in recent years, mostly free of drama, with most commits sticking true to their verbal commitments.
Stick around and discuss the recruiting class and Chip's press conference. It will be premium content for GoDucks.tv subscribers, and there are rumors that it will be on ESPNU. If you can't access either, we'll post the important parts in the comments.
Welcome to all the new Ducks! Win The Day!
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by Matt Daddy on Feb 1, 2012 11:25 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
I have a feeling
we’re going to see some awesome quotes in the future from the Amoako Brothers. Lose one Cliff Harris quote machine, get 2 more in the next recruiting class.
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Anything on yet?
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
So no Harper?
@DuckFootball
Chip said the Ducks have signed 21 guys, and “this is what we anticipate signing.” So, no other additions, that would imply.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
I think he was one of the 21 anticipated to sign
by FromAutzenWithLove on Feb 1, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Harper is not on the list of 21 guys posted earlier
Dammit! I can't find my driving moccasins! - Schmidt
@DuckFootball
Kelly says @Bralon_Addison2 was signed as an athlete, could play some quarterback. Sounds like they need to asses him when he arrives
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
They need asses when he arrives? Is the dude a total horndog or something?
Things like that.
by qrsouther on Feb 1, 2012 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
@DuckFootball
Kelly said Baylis and Brown were Oregon’s top two tight end targets. Baylis will enroll early, in time for spring drills.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Mind you, I'm not posting every single tweet, just choice ones
@DuckFootball
Kelly says Jake Rodrigues should be full-go in the spring after his lower leg injury suffered last fall.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
is the presser on ESPN3?
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
@DuckFootball
Kelly on Armstead: “He’s a D lineman. We’re not bringing him in here to play both positions.”
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
@DuckFootball
Kelly says Byron Marshall was the Ducks’ “top running back prospect all along.”
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I am really excited about Marshall
He has size, power, a wicked juke, lateral quickness. The thing I am most impressed with is his patience, following blockers, and letting the hole develop. Put 20 lbs on him, and let him go.
Video
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
Looks good!
Seems to have a knack for avoiding/stepping out of ankle tackles, which it seems like our other RB’s have issues with. Good speed/acceleration and balance.
Perfect!
@McNamaraUO
Of the 21 signees, 9 were HS All-Americans. Previous high for a UO class was 8 in last year’s 23-man class
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
@DuckFootball
Kelly said there will be a petition to get Kyle Long a second year of eligibility. Sounds like it might be a longshot.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
According to Justin Hopkins, Long already applied once and was denied.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
"I'm not accepting your bribe.
“I just don’t feel comfortable having it on the table.”
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by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 1:30 PM PST up reply actions
Better call Saul!
Come along now, Cabot!
by JIDuck97 on Feb 1, 2012 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
@GregBiggins
A few more names still out there, Bryce Treggs is a big #Cal lean, Bryan Harper looks solid with #Oregon, hearing Randal Goforth- UCLA
Hmmm, not over yet?
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
To be fair, CK can't say a word about Harper-even in the abstract "We still have one more guy..."-until he signs.
So maybe this is like DAT last year where CK let the kid have his moment.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Not familiar with Harper, what position does he play?
Were we on his radar all year or just recently?
He's a 4 star athlete expected to start at DB
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Adam Jude:
Ducks announced signing of 21 recruits. I get the sense that athlete Bryan Harper (3 pm announcement) will be 22nd.
My parents believed in me.
Don't take anything said at a press conference too seriously
CK is not allowed to comment specifically about someone not signed. Also- what would be the benefit of announcing you are expecting one more signee if there is a chance you wouldn’t get him? That is setting up failure. Say this is the class- and your excited then if someone else recruits its gravy. If they don’t, like you said this was the full class.
We have the kid that decommitted from UA coming in this week too...
How much room do we have left?
I think we have 4 left?
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
I counted that we’re losing 16, but that’s just based on 14 seniors plus DT and LMJ. What am I missing?
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Cliff and the the walk ons we gave schollies to
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Cliff…right. Do we have a total? Is there a list somewhere or a breakdown that I could see. As we all know, I’m an accountant. I don’t really like people unless they can be broken down into numbers.
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I don't know if they are published
This is the best depth chart you can look at and if you really want to count you can go through and count the seniors plus make a pretty good guess at who is on scholly or not.
Plus, Curtis White and Hoffman may have to leave due to health so there is 2 more.
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Hadn't heard about Hoffman.
Sucky way to end the sour grapes from some in here.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 1:16 PM PST up reply actions
Hoffman and White are pure speculation right now
But it wouldn’t be surprising for either.
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And there always seems to be a lineman or two who have to retire.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Feb 1, 2012 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
I count 30 walk ons
of the 108 man roster. With 16 seniors, 3 of those walk ons (if non of the walk ons had a schollie) and 3 leaving early (LMJ, DT, CH13) you have 62 schollies.
That gives Oregon 23 to had out.
/gorby, check my math
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/apollo13'd
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
"Tell me this isn't a government operation."
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
“I don’t care what it was DESIGNED to do. I care about what it CAN do.”
Defending maligned chants since 2009
"I think Swigert gave me the clap."
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
"Guess that's our glitch for this mission."
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
White wouldn't be a surprise. Damn shame if it comes to pass.
And Hoffman as well.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Max 23 signees
Balducci, Rodrigues, Armstead, Baylis all enrolling early would mean that we’d put as many as we could towards last year’s limits.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
@AaronJFentress
I asked Chip Kelly if Oregon Ducks used recruiting services this year. He said no. “I wasn’t going down that road again,” he said.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Oregon should be on ESPNU/3 any minute.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
A 3* DE switched from Cal to EASTERN WASHINGTON.
That’s all you need to know.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
DE: “Hey, Mom, I’m going to go ahead and pass on that full ride to Cal Berkley and go to Eastern Washington instead, mmmmkay?”
Mom: “(with baseball bat) Not with two broken legs you’re not.”
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by daisyduck on Feb 1, 2012 1:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
DE: “Actually, Mom, I think I’ll still compete for a starting spot at Eastern Washington with two broken legs.”
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DE: “And come awful close to beating the fuskies.”
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
They only have 13 commits currently, still waiting on 2 more.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
They were looking at likely a top 10 class, and now they’re not even in the top 25.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
Scout has em tied at 49th with all 15
I’m not making a bold prediction, but we believe we can win every football game.----Chip Kelly
Gah
I feel really awful for them.
We’d be leaping off the Ferry St. Bridge if this happened to us. I don’t even want to know what’s going on over at CGB.
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Ya, its gotta be rough over there right now
I’m not making a bold prediction, but we believe we can win every football game.----Chip Kelly
I definitely feel for em', terrible situation.
Wish they had got Shaq instead of UW, thats for sure. Out of all the California schools I dislike Cal the least.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
I haven’t forgiven Stanford for that game in 2001. If I had to rank the teams in the Pac 12 based on who I root for the most where we’re not playing them, it would go:
1. UCLA
2. Utah
3. WSU
4. Colorado
5. Cal
6. Arizona
7. ASU
8. Stanford
9. USC
10 (tie): OSU and uw
Defending maligned chants since 2009
As a Cardinal and Duck fan
I actually feel bad about that game.
It is true
many of us already had warm feelings for the University of Oregon at Berkeley, and then the Tosh fiasco inlfamed them further. And for all the crap we gave Cal about faking injuries two years ago, Furd’s were as bad if not worse.
“Oh look: Skrov is back on the field!”
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Feb 1, 2012 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Skov was injured (ankle) and eventually left the game in '10.
A couple of their others were a bit on the “iffy” side though.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
hmm. Hard to do in that order. I have to eliminate the ones I hate most and work up
1. WSU
2. Cal
3. Col
4. Utah
5. ASU
6. Zona
7. fUCLA
8. furd
9. U$C
10. OAC
11,00000000000000 uw
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Feb 1, 2012 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
A lot of my hatred toward other teams stems from their coaches.
With so many new coaches, it’ll be at least a year before I decide who I hate.
Fuck you NFL! Chip Kelly IS the highest level of football!
true that. Stoops and the Zonies being a great case. Not sure how I'll feel now
the stench of Harbaugh may have moved up the peninsula but lives on for me.
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Feb 1, 2012 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
For me:
1. Oregon State (yeah, I know, sorry)
2. Cal
3. Stanford
4. WSU (until they win more, then they’ll get bumped down)
5. Colorado
6. Utah
7. UCLA
8. Arizona
9. Arizona State
10. USC
11. uw
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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 1, 2012 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
I root for OSU when we are not playing them.
Got a lot of respect for Mike Riley.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
I respect him as a human being. As the coach of OSU, I hope he loses every game he coaches.
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That poor, sorry
sheep-fucking bastard.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
As opposed to
That poor, sorry seal-clubbing bastard.
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 2, 2012 12:11 PM PST up reply actions
OK
1) WSU
2) Utah
3) Cal
4) Stanford
5) CU
6) UCLA
7) ASU
8) UA
9) SC
10) Biebs
11) whelps
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
Way too soon; assume this is more subtle sarc or humor on this blog.
Tosh is a great young coach, and we hope he develops well, but the current betting line is on Wilcox for the next guy to be hired away as HC.
Wilcox is a great young coach; Lupoi is a great recruiter.
His ability as a coach is still undetermined.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 10:20 AM PST up reply actions
Its seems more and more likely that Tedford will finally be fired.
With the recent investments made by Cal, I assume they will want to win sooner than later.
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
I'll bet that Tedford
only refers to Tosh as “That little shit” from this day forward.
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by daisyduck on Feb 1, 2012 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
Cal v. fuskies
Is the non-Duck game I look forward to most this fall. Pretty sure “chippy” won’t cut it.
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
You know what's awesome?
It’s on a Friday. Errybody in the country will be watching.
/clears schedule for 11-2-12
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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 1, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Wait?
You work during the football season?
/reevaluatespriorities
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Feb 1, 2012 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
Tosh to call plays from upstairs
or a Popemobile on the sidelines?
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions
Tosh will call plays from home, in his underwear, using his xbox controller, as per usual.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Feb 1, 2012 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
How will Cal know when to boo?
Oh, wait, that’s us…..
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
He probably won't coach that game
He’ll fake an injury and not show up
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It's the DAY BEFORE the USC game?
awesome appetizer.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
CGB was abuzz
because, on top of everything else, Tosh apparently used his inside knowledge of certain Cal players’ transcripts and academic troubles to claim that Cal was too hard and they should go to UW. Basically throwing out confidential academic info to recruits without permission of the athletes or school.
So yeah, Tosh is a snake. Sounds like he found a nice home.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Feb 1, 2012 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
If that's real
that’s a huuuuuuge FERPA violation.
Key word being “if”, of course.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Feb 1, 2012 1:48 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not sure how legit this is. The best sourcing I could see is was in a comment by iVinshe:
“Not exactly a hard confirmation, but
HappyCheerBear is generally known to be trustworthy over at Scout:
I do understand that transcripts of enrolled students were discussed, and that there are recruits prepared to file statements under penalty of perjury that Tosh used these transcripts to suggest Cal was too hard, and that UW would be much easier.
Using a student’s information without authorization by the student in this way is a violation of the Family Education Rights and Privacy Act of 1974. An administrator would be fired immediately for doing what Tosh did. It will be interesting to see what happens to a football coach who used the transcripts of students at a former school to recruit players to his new employer.
It’s on this page: http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=166&f=1419&t=8648900&p=2"
Beyond that, further talk of it being “confirmed” and “the conference being aware of it.”
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Feb 1, 2012 2:04 PM PST up reply actions
I smell BS from a bitter fan base.
How would that conversation go?
“Wow, Shaqueremy, I know I recruited you at Cal, but I just looked at your junior year report card, and you’re just not smart enough to make it there. You’re better off with me at Washington, where all we care about is getting you eligible.”
“Well, gee, Tosh, you told me when you recruited me at Cal that I’d get plenty of academic assistance, and Mom says Cal’s a better school, and….”
“Yeah, but now I’m serious. Do you know what that word means? Can you say SEE-REE-OUS? I knew you could!”
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Shaq specifically noted the grad rates at UW when he committed. I don’t know if the transcript info is legit, but it seems like someone was definitely in his ear about academics, and kids not graduating from Cal.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Feb 1, 2012 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think you’d have to have someone in your ear about academics to see that the grad rate at uw is higher than it is at Cal.
The question becomes, did Shaq have this information based on nefarious intent, or was it just a consideration? It’s quite a leap to go from there to “Tosh told him he was too stupid to go to Cal.”
There is, of course, the possibility that Tosh is indeed that big of a douchbag.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Would you treat your alma mater the way Tosh did his?
That alone puts him in the douchbag category in my eyes.
This is part of why I just can't get on board the *uck *ucks bus.
I’ll admit I don’t like the recent on field beatings any more than the next Husky, but often enough when somne of you choose to let down the sarc screen you offer commentary that is not only serious and reasonable, but that also presents a basis in facts & logic.
and even then, sometimes a chippy line.
Hope you guys are not offended by me; if you are you may ask me to leave, and I will. Until then I’m going to enjoy your humor and perspective . . .
Best Regards,
Even if he is only talking hypotheticals?
"What the hell was that?"
"Spaceball One, they've gone to plaid!"
I was thinking this yesterday
Tosh – Documented slime and was the one that called for the fake injuries against Oregon
Wilcox – Allegedly stole signs from Oregon while at fBSU, late hit on Masoli, and started the whole fake injuries thing at Tenn.
There’s a lot of reasons for Oregon fans (besides the fact they coach at Uw now) to hate that coaching staff.
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Actually do not wish to get you fired up at me, but my life experience suggests it's not
a great idea to hate anybody; it simply makes your life less pleasant.
That said, it’s great to root for our team, and maybe against some team we dislike for whatever reason.
Wish you well.
A WITCH!!!!! BUUUURRRRRN HIM!!!!!!!!
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by Bill Musgrave on Feb 2, 2012 2:31 AM PST up reply actions
Cool, want to go camping?
Santa Claus' #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Feb 2, 2012 2:39 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sports hate is different. I think sports hate makes sports more interesting.
I sports hate the Patriots and Eli Manning, which makes this weekend’s game pretty lame. But oh well.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
How can you sports hate Eli?
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
Maybe he's a Chargers fan?
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 10:29 AM PST up reply actions
Not a big Chargers fan (although I root for them over most other teams), but what he did to them was a dick move, in my opinion.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
If Joey refused to play for Detroit, he might of had a better NFL career.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
And if John Elway played for the Colts, he may have never won a Superbowl or been a hall-of-famer.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
If a tree falls in the woods, does anyone hear it?
Santa Claus' #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Feb 3, 2012 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
My opinion of him is infinitely better than if he’d refused to play for Detroit.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
You say that like it's possible to have a bad opinion of him
My opinion of him would remain unchanged if he ran down Shufelt’s grandma and her scrappy bridge club in a crosswalk.
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I get your point, but the analogy has some issues.
I don’t think it’s possible to run down Shufelt’s grandma, and even if you could the car would crumple up like tinfoil.
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by Bill Musgrave on Feb 4, 2012 6:45 AM PST up reply actions
I knew she was a quick little thing
but I didn’t realize she was also Superman.
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I thought you knew
Shuf’s grandmother was St. Joey’s H-O-W-T-O-D-E-A-L-W-I-T-H-A-S-H-I-T-T-Y-O-L-I-N-E coach in Detroit.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 5, 2012 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
If I thought an organization was under bad management, I’d refuse to work there too.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
Are you saying you are quitting ATQ?
Santa Claus' #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Feb 4, 2012 6:46 AM PST up reply actions
I could never quit you.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
What have you people got against JShufelt's grandma???
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Two words: SUPERBOWL XXV.
Scott Norwood’s wide right was possibly the most pain I have felt as a fan. I lived near Buffalo (closer than other teams, at any rate) and was a Bills fan. My hatred for the NY GIants burns with the intensity of a thousand burning suns, my friend. I like Eli as a real person tremendously. As a sports figure, he is JAKELOCKER to me. Buffalo fans will NEVER FORGET. NEVER.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Feb 2, 2012 10:37 AM PST up reply actions
Wasn't Eli in diapers then?
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
You're missing the point. He's the current QB of the hated NY GIants.
Hated. So very, very hated. Much as I hated washington long before JakeLocker came along.
I don’t hate JakeLocker in real life. I’m sure he’s a personable and nice guy. I do sports hate him, though. Also think he was very over-rated.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Feb 2, 2012 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Sounding like Kyle Murphy may hedge on Stanford and head to U$C
which would then force Cyler Miles to stay with UW
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
I guess
there’s 3-4 spots open for USC still. Myles did stick with us though.
There will never be a Husky free Northwest...never.
by ALLpurpleEVERYTHING on Feb 1, 2012 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone have a guess
where our recruiting class will be ranked?
I am thoroughly impressed with the job David Shaw has done at Furd this year on the recruiting trail. 10th in the nation ?!?
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
If we flip a few more of these late surprises,
I think we could be ranked as high as threeve.
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Feb 1, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
top 20
our class will probably end up in the 10-20 range, depending on which recruiting site you follow. Look for more front page analysis about the class later today and tomorrow.
Applying the Coaching Adjustment, it's a top-8-ish class.
Gotta allow for the schools that load up on 5* talent then just throw ’em out there and watch ’em hit things.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
High. Again. No surprise.
Congrats. Seriously.
Hope we are able to offer better competition soon, and beat you (fair & square on the field) again before too awful long. In a better Dawg world we would manage to beat you before Chip departs to the NFL.
@AdamJude_RG
I haven’t seen any highlights of Addison yet, but to me he sounds like a cross between De’Anthony and Chris Harper.
/drools
/hasflashbacks
/HECAN’TTHROWTHEBALL!!!MAKEITSTOPMOMMY
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Well that sounds pretty great
as long as the kid doesn’t think he’s a QB.
ATQ's #1 fan of WINNING THE ROSE BOWL
He could get some snaps at QB
he ran that zone-read type of mesh in highschool with good success.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
His highlights
show great running ability out of the QB position but a horrible looking passing motion.
My parents believed in me.
Masoli
with no laptop in sight.
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 1:42 PM PST up reply actions
Worse passer than Masoli
Adam Jude:
Chip basically said the same thing. RT @ryro23 if he is like Chris Harper, I hope he never has to throw it
My parents believed in me.
thats fine.
So was Tebows ;) Not comparing but, if someone is an extreme running threat the passing lanes in college can be extremely large. Especially in our offense.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
With all the legit quarterbacks we are getting,
there won’t be any reason to use him as a QB except in trick plays. And we get the ball into playmaker’s hands in so many different ways (hand offs, pitches, throwing, reverses, etc.) that keeping a player on the field who is a real threat to run AND throw will only make it easier for him (or any of our weapons) to make plays.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Feb 1, 2012 1:49 PM PST up reply actions
So, another Hawkins, then?
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
all the offensive linemen are belong to Stanford
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Yeah. Pretty crazy.
Just hope beyond hope that Barry Sanders Jr doesn’t possess the same ability as his dad or we might have some competition in the north.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
David Shaw
still needs to prove that he can make in-game adjustments. He has shown me nothing in his one year. Granted, it’s a small sample size, but his coaching in the Oregon game and in the Fiesta (two of like maybe three or four games that were cmpetitive for ’Furd) was pretty bad.
"Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do" -- John Wooden
There are some things you can criticize.
but recruiting clearly isn’t one of them. Sets them up nicely for Shaw to prove himself, if not Stanford could all the sudden become a destination spot for a coach.
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
impressive
Stanford isn’t going away anytime soon.
Questions abound.
Wherefore their speedy skill players? This conference is getting faster by the day.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Our game against them this last year
proves this point so emphatically. They just looked so slow…especially by the second half.
If they didn’t add any speed this year, well as you say, they’ll be good again – but they are now slow and Luckless.
ATQ's #1 fan of WINNING THE ROSE BOWL
Their offensive line had some top notch talent this year, but also some glaring weakness. If they can shore up those holes, they will be much less susceptible to defensive attacks like ours.
This is a great continuation of momentum for them, and they’ll likely stay as the second best team in the Pac-12 north if they continue to get these players, but they really need to improve defensively to be able to handle an attack like ours.
--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog
I have to laugh a little bit
Thinking of all the “Stanford is so hard to recruit to!” rhetoric. It might have been before. But this year, now that they’re serious about being good at football, they sure seem to have an awful wide net where blue chip prospects are concerned.
Two-stars with 4.0s who are assured of admission, not so much…
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Feb 1, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
if you had a Stanford offer
would you turn it down?
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Nope.
Of course not. Getting academic breaks to get in to elite schools is a tremendous privilege for athletes, and good for them. But part of Stanford’s deal is that they supposedly don’t give breaks.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Feb 1, 2012 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
I had heard the opposite
I don’t know the source but I had read the when harbaugh came he told the admissions people he needed leeway if they wanted to start winning.
Leeway for Stanford
is still higher than half the Pac’s standards.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
What a load of Shittu!
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
No, seriously
How did that fucker get into furd?
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 9:44 PM PST up reply actions
Only for Eastern Washington
They’re the new powerhouse, so I hear.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Although...
many will tell you that O-linemen tend to be the most cerebral of football players. If you look at their class, lots of big uglies, but where is the speed and athleticism?
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 2:33 PM PST up reply actions
Duh
With the ladies!
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
I’m really happy with the way our class turned out. We addressed some needs, upgraded in some key areas and hopefully found some future stars. It’s a great day to be a Duck!
--Dominic, Addicted to Quack
Autzen Stadium is where great teams go to die." - J. Brady McCullough, The Michigan Daily.
CHIP HAS CLOSED THE BORDERS
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
Powell's.
Sheesh.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions
Am I the only one that thinks Powell’s kind of sucks? I’ve had more luck with used books off of Amazon.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
You're not alone
My skin itches when I go there.
Michael Jackson: A million dollars. You feel me? Holla!
by Babablockhead on Feb 2, 2012 10:42 AM PST up reply actions
Reminds you too much of studying in the library is my guess.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Books freak me out
And the people that hang out in Powells with all the books
Michael Jackson: A million dollars. You feel me? Holla!
by Babablockhead on Feb 2, 2012 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Probably.
I don’t do it nearly as often as I used to (blame the Kindle) but I still occasionally will spend most of a Saturday sipping coffee and paging through a stack of books.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 10:55 AM PST up reply actions
Books are starting to grow more into a novelty item. Where the look of the book is going to be just as important as the content with in it.
I’d rather read off a kindle and keep clutter to a minimum. Unless you have a purpose to have a library (Like, reference books), e-books are just so much better. Especially if you move.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
Meh.
I love the Kindle, but it’s just not the same. And being an avid history buff and still a bit of a researcher on the subject, the Kindle doesn’t lend itself to maps, diagrams, and photos the way a well-bound hardback does. And it’s simply not as aesthetically pleasing. I will have my cake and eat it too, anyone who says otherwise can bite me.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
LOVE my Kindle
Still buy real books occasionally too. I see no reason not to enjoy both.
ATQ's #1 fan of WINNING THE ROSE BOWL
This. I have several thousand paper books, and several thousand ebooks.
It’s not an either/or, I find. At least, not yet.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Amazon is affiliated with thousands of used book dealers.
It’s unsurprising that you have better luck there.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 10:56 AM PST up reply actions
Absolutely, great results all around.
When you look at the combination of last year’s class (Heavy on OL and LB, lighter on DL) and this year’s class together we really put together some great continuity.
I’m particularly excited to see what becomes of the WR position.
Who needs normal sleep patterns?
by AcadianTraverse on Feb 1, 2012 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
5 receiver sets
outLeaching Leach
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Feb 1, 2012 3:53 PM PST up reply actions
U
W
There will never be a Husky free Northwest...never.
by ALLpurpleEVERYTHING on Feb 1, 2012 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Dang, ok
we still have a really good class. Any potential last minute surprises like last year?
by RipCityRoyCity on Feb 1, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
You have an another excellent class
Chip may not like recruiting much, according to sportswriters commenting about the recent NFL offer, but he seems to be pretty darn good at it . . .
On another not
Jordan Payton just quit twitter….no really.
There will never be a Husky free Northwest...never.
by ALLpurpleEVERYTHING on Feb 1, 2012 2:07 PM PST reply actions
*note
There will never be a Husky free Northwest...never.
by ALLpurpleEVERYTHING on Feb 1, 2012 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Nah
heard he’s back to myspace
There will never be a Husky free Northwest...never.
by ALLpurpleEVERYTHING on Feb 1, 2012 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Really happy to see Dorial Green Beckham
go to Mizzou. Now I know what my secondary team on NCAA 2013 will be after the Ducks, can I get a jump ball?:p
"We gotta get this $#!^ together guys!" - Phil
Shittu hits the fan.
Is a tree.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 1, 2012 2:33 PM PST reply actions
When Furd sucked their excuse was always that their academic standards were so high they couldn't
Recruit most of the top tier players.
Either that excuse was BS or
The top tier players are suddenly brilliant students, or
The Tree’s standards have dropped from Sequoia heights to
sapling heights.
They have one amazing class for next season.
It's not that they drop the standards, as I understand it.
It’s just that they have this giant pool of academic talent that wants to get in, right? All of whom are above the required academic standards. Say they have 10,000 applicants for 1000 entries in the freshman class. If you aren’t on an athletic scholarship, you’re competing against those 10,000 applicants.
If you’re a recruit, guess what? You don’t have to worry about being smarter than 90% of the applicants.
The average Stanford freshman football player is not as high on the IQ/SAT/ACT scales as the average Stanford freshman. But he still has to be able to get into Stanford.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
I wish it was a little more transparent
I’ll be interested to see whether some of these late breaking recruits, like Shittu, are admitted. Is he a legacy like the Lopez brothers were? The kid from Louisiana, who was the genesis of this whole conversation, apparently wasn’t. And that’s the only reason I really gave a damn about who can or can’t get in. I don’t like offers being pulled at the 11th hour for what might be bullshit reasons.
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Feb 1, 2012 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
I'll believe this
If Furd has a lower % of footballers majoring in communications or sociology than the rest of the PAC 12 schools.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
Harper committed to Arizona
so we lost out on that one.
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
It's just speculation, but
Greg Biggins, ESPN’s west recruiting blogger said this about Harper in a live chat a little bit ago.
“Not sure if Harper passed on them or if they ran out of room, he was all Oregon last week.”
Oh well, no matter who we got, Chip Kelly is the reason our team is what it is. Go ducks!
We know these new Ducks will be
exceedingly well coached and have every opportunity to reach their potential.
Can’t wait to see some of these guys on the gridiron!!!!!
line #1: No shit. As a visitor that is intended as a compliment to your coaching staff.
Line 32: no hard feelings, but hope you are disappointed at least one game a year.
Also hope you win your bowl game . . . again!
CBS Still shows:
In their top 25 classes:
Mutts: 24
Ducks: 19
Bruins: 18
Bears: 15
Tree: 10
SC: 9
6 of 12 Pacific Conference teams in the top 25.
Not too shabby.
Doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?
They show Cal w/ 15 commits; 2 of whom are in their ‘top 100’ with the highest being Bryce Treggs @ #89.
They show Oregon w/ 21 commits; 3 of whom are in their ‘top 100’ with the highest being Armstead @ #16.
But they have, apparently, a formula (though they fall short of providing it). Instead they offer this explanation: http://www.maxpreps.com/utility/about_college_rankings.aspx .
Actually they have Georgia @ 20, but if one is to take their ‘Top 100’ seriously, Georgia should be at or near the top 10 (their list is here: http://www.maxpreps.com/signingday/top_teams.aspx?ssid=f28cd02d-9746-48e9-a74b-fffef375b19a )
No, it doesn't . . . but some of it is all weegie (sp?) board anyway.
and it will change for awhile yet
Questioning authority, are we now?
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Their formula
SEZ SEW!
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
Love Kelly.
From Miller’s wrap:
Not that Kelly wasn’t bothered by other programs using rumors, as well as the Bucs courtship, against the Ducks.
Said Kelly, “I don’t understand that approach: ‘Please don’t go to that school because that coach is successful. Come to ours because our coach is really mediocre and will never be offered a job.”
Hmm, wonder to whom he might be referring?
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Feb 1, 2012 5:16 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
A PDF? A PDF? ENCAPSULATED? WTF? How about something lazy people in a hurry can read ??
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Anybody seen the Stanford class?
They’re going to be absolute beasts on the line, especially the O line. Looks like Stanford’s smash-mouth running game should continue to prosper.
15-yard penalty for my avatar. /Pereira'd
Yeah, I don't know why we signed any linemen
cause Stanford won’t give up a sack from 2013-2016
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
Their o-line was good last season,
and our d-line wreaked hell on Luck.
Winners of the Platypus trophy!
that was my thought. Two first round picks off that line, right?
and we played them well the year before.
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Feb 1, 2012 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe not everyone works out?
We can gameplan around.
There once was a team from Seattle / Who’s Dawg Pound would on and on prattle, / "Our coach makes big bucks / But he can’t beat the Ducks! / Let’s call SBN Legal and tattle!" by JonathanPDX Jan 19, 2012 5:19 PM PST
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 1, 2012 10:12 PM PST up reply actions
Two words: Refrigerator Perry
We’re DOOOOOOMED
Santa Claus' #1 fan
by Bill Musgrave on Feb 2, 2012 2:36 AM PST up reply actions
So from what I can see
Rivals has us at 15 as does Scout. ESPN hasn’t updated us to 21 signed recruits and still has us with 19, but they have us ranked 18.
The PAC-12 per Scout.
6. Stanford 22 — recruits
11. UCLA — 28 recruits
15. Oregon 21 — recruits
20. USC 15 — recruits
22. Washington — 25 recruits
29. Colorado — 29 recruits
32. Utah — 28 recruits
38. California — 17 recruits
43. Arizona State — 23 recruits
45. Arizona — 24 recruits
46. Oregon State — 24 recruits
60. Washington State — 26 recruits
Boom goes the dynamite
Strange
The link I have from the SBNation summary shows the whole table of Top 25 ranked classes and all their ranks from the various rankers. I don’t understand the disparity, but I don’t know what their formulas are, either.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
Colorado's ranking may be #29
But Yuri Wright gives them the #1 twitter class in the country.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
But can twitter make an open field tackle?
Speed Endurance Talent is how Track Town USA plays football. Win The Day
no
maybe one of the best statements of the obvious I’ve seen in days.
(with full credit for humor)
Thank you.
You are new
so your mistake is forgiven. But in the future, please do not encourage the boy.
Both gold and muck come out of the same shaft...
if ESPN didn't get our last two
then that may be the last two letters received: Long and Balducci. Pretty significant.
But I’m happy with our class regardless
scrappy
by Honka Playboy on Feb 1, 2012 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
Chesterfield for President
@AddictedToQuack
Washington Recruiting Stars in 2008: 1 5-star, 7 4-star, 14 3-star. Recruiting Stars 2012: 1 5-star, 3 4-star, 15 3-star. h/t scout.com
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
The Recruiting class rankings are fun to look at, but are ultimately irrelevant.
Two things leap out at me
1) it is really up to the coaches to utilize the players they have. There is a reason why schools like Boise State, love them or hate them, recruits three star players year after year and is consistently a top ten team. At the same time, schools like Florida pull in four and five star talent every year and as of late, are not that good. Did the talent in Florida just drop off the map when Tebow and Meyer left? No, a sub-par coach came in and could not properly utilize the talent he had on the roster.
On that note, I would trust the judgement of Chip Kelly on the recruiting path he and his staff took more than the judgement the media has passed on it. Chip is only a soon to be fourth year head coach at Oregon, but he was the OC for a few season prior and had his hands in the recruiting classes then too, same with Nick Allioti. This coaching staff is two years removed from playing one hell of a NC game against a $180k pro bowl QB and are fresh off a Rose Bowl victory with 2, 3, 4, and very few 5 star talents on the roster. As far as I am concerned Chip Kelly is the best coach in the Pac-12 by a landslide and top 3 in the nation, so I’ll take him and the number 20 recruiting class over ANY other coach in the conference no matter what number the media assigns them.
Chip identified what he deemed to be weaknesses on the roster and fixed them and ultimately gave a team brimming with speed and talent, a huge influx of talent. Overall it was a good day for the University of Oregon football program.
There is a reason why schools like Boise State, love them or hate them, recruits three star players year after year and is consistently a top ten team
Coaching and recruiting are not the reason why. Just saying.
The All I Saw Was Green Blog, that's it I'm telling SBN legal
that's outright BS.
a soft schedule gets you wins, not makes you a great time. I’m not a Boise St. fan by a longshot, but that team took the SEC east champion and beat them pretty good.
AND they did it with 2-4 star recruits against the 4-5 that Georgia. Georgia may have had better recruits, Boise St had the better players.
Week 1 is such a crapshoot, I don't put nearly as much stock in fBSU's win over Georgia
as I do their loss to TCU, or their mediocre performances against Air Force or Wyoming. Then again, I’m a tremendous hater.
Addicted to Quack
Death before chastity!
the point of that post was not to debate whether BSU is overrated
it was to point out that recruiting still takes second place to coaching. TCU is another good example. Andy Dalton, a qb who just represented the AFC in the pro bowl as a rookie, was a lowly three star commit to TCU in ‘06, Ryan Clady, was a 2 star product in ’04
I’m not debating whether BSU or TCU are overrated, what I am saying is, just because the media or a website says a kid is 5 stars doesn’t make them the best. They are very clearly wrong much of the time, and GREAT COACHING, which the Ducks, Horned Frogs, and Broncos have is more of a difference than a website saying a kid is great.
Intangables also play a role. Football is such a game of adrenalin and emotion and a really great coach knows how to get his players fired up, just by being in his presence. I suspect this is one of Mike Bellotti’s deficiencies, and one of Les Mile’s assets (as well as CK’s). Pete Carroll is also very good at it.
On the other hand, the lack of personal charisma can be offset if people admire and believe in someone to a high degree. That was the case with my coach in high school and in the political realm, it’s evidenced in the near fanatical support for Ron Paul by his young followers.
If ya can't get your Dick Enright, get your Dick Harter!
and my thoughts are that Kelly has both
His athletes want to play for him and believe in him, and they also believe in the system. He can get the players to play at a high level and to develop them into better athletes than they were when they came to Oregon.
and you are right
and all your Pac-12 cousins know it
No one is going to argue with you (certainly not me)
that coaching is important in the end game of the production of player. Look at Tosh at Uw, how successful were all those 4 and 5 star recruits he was pulling into 7-5 Cal? But let’s not pretend that fBSU is the epitome of taking lower level talent and making them exceptional.
When you play the Sisters of the Blind all season and only schedule your tough games for the first and last games of the year when you have plenty of time to prepare, your end result record is going to constantly look better than what you actually are (I won’t even get into the argument about how if Kelly or any other Pac coach got 10 games of 1+ quarter per game to play his back ups how well they’d look later in their careers).
This argument that getting 5 stars by your name in high school isn’t deserved is somewhat antiquated and doesn’t account for the number of trained individuals that scout and rate these players on an annual basis. There definitely is a balance between getting a team of 5* players and getting a team of talented players that are coachable, I agree.
But let’s not use the exception that is fBSU to try and disprove the rule.
The All I Saw Was Green Blog, that's it I'm telling SBN legal
I actually will disagree a little bit. You need great coaching ability, but recruiting sets your ceiling. Oregon State thrived on the diamonds-in-the-rough. End results? No bowl games 2 years in a row after being a multi-year Rose Bowl contender. The coaches didn’t change. Riley just hasn’t been able to consistently recruit at a high enough level.
What has Alabama’s recruiting levels been like? According to Rivals:
2007, #10
2008, #1
2009, #1
2010, #5
2011, #1
2012, #1
Should anyone actually be shocked that they’ve won the BCS NC twice, and will likely continue to be favored to do so over the next few years? No. They’ve been very competitive in the best conference in the nation, and that will continue. No BSU or TCU team can say that.
They are very clearly wrong much of the time
They are also very clearly right much of the time. It’s a fickle system.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
Cheating cheaters cheat.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 4:51 PM PST up reply actions
Get back to me when the beat the SEC West champ.
Don’t bring me SEC Least.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 2, 2012 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
+7
Your crumdugeon (sp?) Chip & Mack Brown prove your point.
curmudgeon
Though crum-dungeon does have its own sparkle.
Oregon loves you, Chip Kelly!
by gamedaytribe on Feb 2, 2012 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
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