Quack Fix: Pac-12 quietly favoring a playoff, while breaking ground on TV network
by jtlight on Feb 15, 2012 7:18 AM PST
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PrintNo big news this morning, but we got all sorts of random Duck notes. Here's your quack:
- There has been rumbling of a college football playoff in the last couple weeks, and George Schroeder's piece today is how the Pac-12 and Larry Scott is quietly in favor of expanding college football's postseason. This is a huge step, because the Pac-12, Big 10, and Rose Bowl have been key in killing any playoff hopes. But it seems that these groups may finally be changing, and if it does, it would likely be for the 2014 season.
- In more Pac-12 news, Jon Wilner has the latest on the coming Pac-12 network. The Pac-12 studios have broken ground in San Francisco, and should be up and running by August 15th. Get on the phone with your cable provider, and make sure you have it before kickoff on September 1st.
- Bob Clark rounds up some basketball notes. Some Pac-12 teams are looking at expanding midseason non-league games. Carlos Emory is drawing praise from Altman. Also, be prepared for Matt to keep complaining about EJ's hairband, because it looks like he's not cutting his hair anytime soon.
- Dion Jordan comes in at No. 20 in Ted Miller's Top 25 countdown. Jordan improved immensely over the season, and I can't wait to see what he can do next year. For more on Jordan, Joe Soriano from Autzen Zoo had a piece on him this morning.
- Phil Steele has the latest BCS Championship odds, and Oregon comes in as a 12/1 favorite, tied for 5th with Florida State. LSU is first with 19/4 odds, and USC is just behind with 5/1 odds. Looks like Oregon was dinged a bit with Darron Thomas' decision to leave for the NFL.
- With Baseball starting this weekend, Oregon is picked to finish 7th in the conference, though only 11 teams play in the Pac-12, as Colorado doesn't have a baseball team.
- Oregon softball dropped from 11th to 19th in the latest rankings after going 3-2 in their opening weekend. While being ranked is nice, there are 6 Pac-12 teams ranked ahead of the Ducks. As always, the Ducks will face a ton of high quality teams.
- Lastly, an interesting piece from Ivan Maisel on the rise of junior days. If you follow recruiting, you know that Texas and USC have held their recently, and these camps typically produce a high number of commitments for these traditional powerhouses. These have been going on for a while, but the NCAA has very few regulations on them, and the trip must be paid for by the PSA. Right now, junior day isn't as big for Oregon as other schools, in large part because of the expense of getting to Eugene. Hopefully NCAA regulations could make things a bit more favorable.
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Good morning Rose Bowl Champions!
"After further review, prior to the spiking of the pass, the clock went to zero. The game is over."
by GustyJ on Feb 15, 2012 7:23 AM PST reply actions 4 recs
I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you
(no, not you washington, go away)
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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 15, 2012 8:07 AM PST up reply actions
HEY DUDES, WHAZZUP????!!!! (+burps in everyone's face).
I'm not here to cause no trouble, I'm just here to do the… well, I don't really know what I'm here to do.
by Bill Musgrave on Feb 15, 2012 4:12 PM PST up reply actions
Stop. Hammer time.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
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by axemen23 on Feb 15, 2012 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
PAC-12 network question
since I live in NY, I won’t get any regional pac-12 coverage but only the pac-12 national coverage? So if oregon is playing at the same time another team has a game, if oregon isn’t the one on national, I can’t watch it?
not a lot of details yets
especially as not all distribution deals are done yet.
I think the way that it will probably work out is say you had DirecTV, you would get the national network on your regular package, then get the regional networks if you paid for the sports package.
There is also the digital network, and my understanding is that if you have access to the national network on TV, you can watch any event online.
--Dave
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Stewart Mandel has an article up on this topic today
--Dave
Addicted to Quack, your friendly, neighborhood Oregon Ducks blog
Thank you for sharing that article.
Does anyone have any speculation on what this could be?
It will have some technology bells and whistles that people haven’t been able to embrace before, because those are all important things to our brand."
It posted its own read more link. That is new.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
Sites are doing that more and more. They have some embedded coding that comes along with the standard copy/paste.
I don't mean to impose...
And thanks to noscript,
I don’t get bothered by any of that junk.
Noscript is awesome.
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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 15, 2012 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Texas didn’t get any commitments which I guess is very rare for them. They wanted one from the top duel threat QB in the country & the top RB in Texas. We’re in it for both of them & the RB Dontre Wilson called our offense his dream offense. The QB Tyrone Swoopes has been compared to both Cam Newton & Vince Young, I don’t want to get excited about someone who isn’t a senior or committed to us yet but if that’s true he’d be awesome in our offense
The Legend
I didn’t think Swoopes had any interest in the Ducks, other than thinking the Rose Bowl Helmets were awesome
On ESPN & 247Sports they are saying he does. If he were to come here I wonder if he plays right away if the hype is true
The Legend
I've been away from the Quack Fix comments for a few days, and I was curious --
did the rumors about Tra ever come to fruition, or get refuted, or anything?
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
TCU just won the Fulmer Cup
From EDSBS: 17 TCU students arrested on drug charges, including football players
"After further review, prior to the spiking of the pass, the clock went to zero. The game is over."
Rumors are at least 4 football players
So if you figure 4 players at 3 felony charges each, that’s about 36 points (I think). Good show, TCU!
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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 15, 2012 8:21 AM PST up reply actions
I was all ready to get indignant over felony charges for pot or something. And then...
McGee said those arrested were selling marijuana, cocaine, Molly (ecstasy in powder form), ecstasy in pill form, acid and prescription drugs including Xanax, hydrocodone and others similar to Oxycontin.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
They brought the whole suitcase.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
Fear and Loathing in Fort Worth.
"Screw them all" said Coach Chip Kelly, "trololololol lolol lol lol!
by BigGreenWreckingMachine on Feb 15, 2012 11:33 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I picture a '73 Cadillac Eldorado convertible with longhorns on the hood and a trunk stuffed with goodies.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
BAT COUNTRY!
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
I of course pictured an old school RV with the TCU logo on the side...
…functioning as both the mobile distribution center AND mobile meth lab. Because Breaking Bad is my frame of reference for all southern drug activities.
I don't mean to impose...
I pictured a naked swimsuit model holding a chocolate lab puppy.
But I’m not sure what we’re talking about.
I'm not here to cause no trouble, I'm just here to do the… well, I don't really know what I'm here to do.
by Bill Musgrave on Feb 15, 2012 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah.
To be fair, I totally pulled the “3 felony charges” thing out of my ass, but you’ve got to figure that they’ll get hit with one for distributing, one for possession with intent to distribute, and at least one other thing, like maybe obstruction of justice or something. I know next to nothing about laws, but this just feels like at at-least-3-charges kind of situation for all involved.
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by ProbablyMonty on Feb 15, 2012 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Do separate drugs get filed as separate charges?
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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/callslawyerparent
Ok here’s what I got
One: It depends on the class of drug. If for example they tried to sell X amount of Oxy and Y amount of heroin to the UI, then those two are different classes of controlled substances and can be separate charges.
Two: For every time they can prove (or think they can prove) intent to distribute, that can be a different charge.
Third: Possession of prescription drugs with intent to distribute is separate from possession of a controlled substance in Texas; you can be charged with both felonies.
So essentially, we’re looking at a LOT of charges for each player.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
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It gets better (Fulmer Cup Wise) for them
@sbnation
How bad goes to terrible at TCU: The players arrested were accused of selling to teammates: sbn.to/ArZQVj
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
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And Worse
@BryanDFischer
Reading affidavits of TCU players, you would think that’s enough to get the rest of the team drug tested immediately bit.ly/yuPW0p
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
[Will Auction Off Sig To Highest Bidder]
Breaking News!
TCU no longer fielding football team, but has modified remaining players and will now field a full squad in college curling!
See, somethimes things just turn out for the best!
For Oregon, King Kelly, and St Quack!
When life gives you lemons
Paint that shit gold
Dammit! I can't find my driving moccasins! - Schmidt
When life gives you lemons
It’s not so bad if you like lemons.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
When life gives you lemons
You slice those things up and stick em in a pint of hefeweizen.
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by Gorbachav5 on Feb 15, 2012 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What if life doesn’t give you a pint of hefeweizen?
Or what if it did, but it gave you 3 dozen lemons?
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
I’ll save the rest of the lemons for when life gives me another pint of hefeweizen. Failing that, I’ll throw them at a wall and listen to the satisfying splat they make.
Defending maligned chants since 2009
When live gives you lemons...
You have fun!
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
We can have a real good time.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
Ah...
Vinne and Paul sitting in a tree…
Paul one of the all time greats! To bad he completely derailed…. funny guy too!
ssshhh....
Grew up in Europe playing nothing but Soccer (football) for 20 years.
Yeah I know about these two blokes. Vinnie… Absolute madman to watch play. Sometimes it looked like he was out to get people from the first blow of the whistle. Very talented player though… Just mad.
ssshhh....
by OregOnDucks on Feb 15, 2012 4:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
When life gives you lemons...
Say, “Fuck the lemons” and bail.
Michael Jackson: A million dollars. You feel me? Holla!
by Babablockhead on Feb 15, 2012 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Obligitory
/forgot how to do max image size
Both gold and muck come out of the same shaft...
by Fishdude on Feb 15, 2012 12:36 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Um
Thanks for the pdf warning.
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 11:37 AM PST up reply actions
Texas Christians are just 'different.'
/afterreceivingbelch
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
What's the TCU student's response?
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
by JShufelt on Feb 15, 2012 10:24 AM PST up reply actions 3 recs
The Duck Witch owns this p*rple princess!
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
It's so weird to watch earlier games and suddenly notice her all the time.
Hope she took the notoriety in good humor.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
by omb on Feb 15, 2012 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I know!
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
"How much fun can kill someone?"
Autzen Stadium: "The stadium with an L.A. face, but an Oakland Booty, if you will." -Spencer Hall
by ProbablyMonty on Feb 15, 2012 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
I know how we can solve the junior day desparity.
Get rid of if it. Let these kids breath for god’s sake.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
I interned in the AD and staffed the 2006 Junior Day festivities
The kids loved it. Junior Day was intentionally held on the same day as the Spring Game and the NFL Draft.
While the coaches are making presentations to the kids in the Autzen club level, the bank of TVs were showing Haloti getting drafted in the first round, and all the current players were warming up for the Spring Game. It was a pretty cool day.
I don't doubt that it is.
It just sounds like another way for the schools with the resources available to pull even farther ahead. Including us. I suppose it is my naive hope that someday we will see more less disparity, in college football.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
Yep
That’s your naive hope. :)
As long as colleges can spend more than other colleges, as long as the conferences are so completely skewed as far as competitive balance and (most importantly) as long as kids are able to pick who they want to play for when they go into college you’re not going to have anything resembling parity. I’d rather a system that embraced this lack of parity instead of pretended it existed.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Simply banning the recruitment of Juniors would solve the problem.
Granted, enforcement would be near to impossible. I know it probably brings the kids enjoyment but, they should be left alone. I would imagine they have more important things to worry about, than coaches calling them at all hours of the day as a junior. Next will be sophomore day. There needs to be a limit. Plus, the resources spent by the universities could go elsewhere.
"I thought we were going to see an @ESPN highlight where (DT) was gonna rip the knee brace off...like Forrest Gump running down the field." Chip Kelly
Do junior days happen for football and other revenue sports? What about non-revenue sports?
It depends on the kid. Some might find it to be a distraction. Some might use it to refine their academic and/or athletic goals. Others might like the “certainty” (see also: grey shirting, oversigning, SEC) of knowing where they will earn a degree and/or play college sports.
It’s interesting Stanford was mentioned as a school students, not just PSAs, visit before sending in their application. Students do (or should) this for any institution they are thinking of attending. I don’t have a problem with coaches having additional opportunities to evaluate talent. Travel needs to be on the PSA’s dime, though.
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
Junior Days
I know shady stuff goes on with the top recruits and how early and often the big schools can go after them. But what about the lesser known players? I’m curious what impact it has on the borderline players or the 2-star kids who wind up at Oregon instead of Portland State.
by JonathanPDX on Feb 15, 2012 11:55 AM PST up reply actions
Was it Autzen Zoo the site that had a picture of one of their editors/site owner/mods in a bikini?
It looks like she’s gone, downgraded her duties or sold the site. Perhaps it its a different site. She was hawt.
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 11:03 AM PST reply actions
Valentine's Day was yesterday.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Feb 15, 2012 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Someone posted a link to the picture in question over a year ago.
I don’t even remember if it was the same site.
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 12:41 PM PST up reply actions
No link
I (apparently) referenced her pic in a post last year. There are no bikini pics on the site anymore. sad face
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
Looks Like
Ted Miller is pushing more love our way, linking the valentine’s article on De’Anthony!
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake -Tyler Durden
link:
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
by Famous Duck on Feb 15, 2012 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
Reading about the latest playoff proposal, it definitely feels like progress. One thing I don’t particularly care for though is that it would knock the semifinal losers out of the bowls completely. Having, say, semis in late December and then the championship game just after in the first week of January means that the loser, who had tremendous seasons and finished ranked 1-4, will get either a home game around holiday time or a road trip around holiday time and they’re done. Meanwhile, say this year Oregon was a semifinalist, went to ’Bama at christmas and lost. Then the Rose Bowl already has Stanford lined up as a replacement. Stanford definitely makes out a lot better on the deal.
The solution I’d like to see is to put the semifinal round immediately after the conference championships, and have bowl selection after. This is actually even less disruptive to the traditional bowl structure, and allows the best team in a conference to get the best bowl slot even if it misses out on the championship game. Alternately, if they’re serious about the back-to-back, Dec/Jan playoff, I’d like the whole thing to be a big two-week neutral-site event so that, say, a Pac-12 champ loser would at least have had a decent replacement for missing out on the Rose Bowl.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
How does Stanford make out on the deal?
Oregon in that case gets paid a hell of a lot more than Stanford does to go to the bowl game. They don’t have to share it with the conference. They get a larger TV share. What they don’t have is a somewhat friendly crowd, but in all other ways it’s a great, great deal for them.
I mean…we lost money going to the national championship as a school. The bowl system sucks for everyone but the bowl system at this point.
The notion of a neutral site for multiple weeks will never, ever work. There’s just not enough general interest in college sports to have multiweek fan groups showing up for 2-3 weeks at one place to watch their team or to have generic fans show up ‘to catch a good game’ or be part of the festivities. Neutral sites need to go the hell away for college football.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I guess a lot of my complaints are on behalf of the fans – if their team isn’t a home team, then they basically get no trip or event to possibly attend, and less to hang their hat on coming out of the season. Stanford gets to play in and likely win a Rose Bowl, and take part in the whole deal that goes along with it, while Oregon fans get to watch their team lose at ‘Bama on TV over christmas. That seems like a substantially diminished experience, and a rather crummy finale when you’re looking back on what will likely be one of the best teams in a given program’s history, particularly when you stack it against the possibility of losing at Bama earlier in December AND STILL getting a Rose Bowl berth as consolation. Even for home fans, they’re now horning a football game trip in to a holiday period where they may have a lot of conflicts. As far as money, first, I don’t like that as the primary/only justification for organizing things that way. Second, is there an indication that the schools in the playoff are just going to be able to pocket all the cash? I haven’t seen anything like that, and it doesn’t seem to fit with how the conferences tend to run things.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
Further, speaking to preserving the Rose Bowl tradition,
You’re right about fans and a two-week neutral site, so I’m speaking here mostly about an earlier semifinal,
When you’re removing the top 4 each year, it’s likely that the Rose Bowl will be losing at least one conference champion most years. That is a recipe for lopsided games, and a generally diminished tradition. By moving the semis ahead of bowl selection, you would be able to ensure a Big Ten champ v. Pac 12 champ Rose Bowl more often, in fact at the same rate as you do now – they’re both in unless they’re among the two teams in the ’Natty, in which case the RB grabs a runner up.
Somewhere, somehow, a Duck is watching you.
This could be solved by having the two losers in the playoff play at a neutral site bowl
either the next week or the week after. It’d be a big matchup between two teams looking for redemption after the loss the week before and it would mean just as much as the other bowls.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Feb 15, 2012 12:44 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think a loser bowl is going to put butts in seats
Even now the BCS bowls that aren’t the national championship are not nearly as attractive as they were. Depending on the teams they don’t sell out. But at least that’s the final destination. What you’re suggesting is that a couple weeks after the semi, the two losers go and play somewhere else for…pride, I guess. No tradition, no real rhyme or reason – just the third and fourth place teams playing for third place far away from everyone after a bitter loss.
Tell me, would you as a NFL fan want to see San Francisco and Baltimore play again? SURE! Now, would you want to travel to go see them play in, say, Dallas? Uh…maybe not. Would casual fans? Probably not so much. Certainly not a high ticket value. You could skirt that by having the 3rd place game be the week before the natty at the same location, but even then that means you’re still planning a two-week trip as a fan and you have this also-ran bowl.
It just doesn’t sound like that much fun to me.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
"Neutral Site Bowl" and "Loser Bowl"
are terrible names.
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
What the hell is that?
It looks like someone made it in 7th grade shop class.
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Little known fact
Our vajayjay trophy was made at the high school this middle school feeds into.
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by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 16, 2012 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
I like the Pac-12 trophy.
It’s not just something generic mounted on top of a rectangular box, as many other trophies seem to be.
I SHOULD HAVE DONE WHAT LARRY SCOTT DID AND TOLD YOU TO GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC INSTEAD - @DanBeebe
You're right,
it looks like a box.
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 16, 2012 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
This is right on. It’s just not going to be that attractive as a SECOND bowl game. We already have bowl games that pit high ranked teams against each other that won’t result in a championship. But that’s just one game. Fans are (mostly) willing to travel for that one game.
Heck, even imagine this scenario – Oregon vs. Oklahoma St. somewhere in the Southeast. How many Oregon fans would travel for that? It would be a great game, and it’s even two bowl winners. But it’s meaningless. Imagine how much less interest you would have for two losing teams. It just wouldn’t work.
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The real purpose isn’t to fill the seats. It’s TV ratings. Besides, bowl games aren’t about fans traveling. It’s mostly just… companies and sponsors.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
"YOU ARE THE KING OF THE AWESOME GUYS, JSHUFELT!!!" - daisyduck
TV ratings would be the same at non-bowl sites.
And TV ratings improve with home crowds being awesome. People don’t like watching games with teams that aren’t sold out.
Bowl games are certainly part of fans traveling. Those bowl games get revenue and considerations from the local communities to continue because of all the positive revenue they bring to the community. The average fan spends something like $1k on a trip to a major bowl; this is a pretty absurd amount of money when you think about 70k fans going somewhere.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
Alright, TV ratings and sponsors then. I don’t think the results would be different. Oregon and OSU fans would watch, but who else?
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Also
I bet very strongly that people would be a lot more interested in watching (and sponsoring, and selling the rights to) a playoff than a bowl game. Ratings for bowls tend to be fairly meh unless a big-name team is in them or there’s some awesome superstar. Or, honestly, the Ducks are playing (they attract a lot of people who want to see the uniforms and high scoring). Playoffs would get a ton of people watching regardless.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
They used to have a third-place game at the Final Four.
I think they dropped this sometime in the late 70s, because nobody wanted to play the game after losing the semifinal. And even fewer people wanted to watch it.
And that was with a captive audience.
I can’t imagine anyone being interested in a Loser Bowl. Especially advertisers.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
So what's the point of the Rose Bowl then?
I guess if the Rose Bowl is an ‘also ran’ game where the losers of a semifinal get to play something, that’s not really a reward. I don’t want to go fly down there and watch the Rose Bowl after we lost in the semis; I’d much rather see the semis. The schedule would also be weird as hell. At that point you’re saying that around the 15th, the semis happen. Then the bowl games – which means you have 2 weeks or less to figure out if you want to even go to the Rose Bowl during the hardest time to schedule of the year. Then AFTER all those bowl games the final happens, like 3 weeks later?
Plus you’re putting bowl selection to start around the 15th – which now means that bowls have about 3 days to get things together and pick teams. And in your scenario, you have to wait that long for everyone because everything’s cascading. If (say) Oregon wins and goes to the natty Stanford now gets picked for the Rose, USC to the Alamo, Washington to the Holiday. If Oregon loses then Oregon goes to the Rose, Stanford goes to the Alamo, USC to the holiday, etc. Everyone has to wait on everyone else. Logistically that’s horrible. For a fan of those other teams it’s even worse; you want to plan a trip to two or more cities in 8 days or less?
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
I'm okay not winning it every year
2010, for instance. I was totally fine not winning it that year.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
IMO, a playoff will end the status of the BCS bowls
If the top 8 teams go to a playoff then only also-ran teams are in the Rose Bowl. Honestly, the Natty already reduces the relevance of the BCS bowls, in the past winning the Rose or Orange was a great way to set yourself up for an AP National Championship vote. Now the competitors in the RB and others are guaranteed not to be competing for a title. Add in a playoff and the RB is, at best, the 9th vs 10th place teams. Becomes a meh game. The BCS bowls would need to become the playoff games (The Rose Bowl Bracket, Sugar Bowl Bracket) if they are to retain relevance.
Oh, and I realize the playoff is a "final 4" not 8
but once a playoff is in place it will grow to at least 8 pretty quickly
I would love to see the system play out the bowls with no seeding, do a final poll the day after the last bowl is played, and then invite the #1 and #2 teams from that poll to participate in the BCS championship game a week or two later. I’d also remove the BCS automatic qualifier system and just invite the top teams, with limits on BCS ranking so you don’t have a unranked Big East champion playing in one of those 4 or 5 top games.
If Alabama crushes Ohio State maybe they deserve to move up from #5 to #2. If TCU goes undefeated with a rout of USC in the Fiesta Bowl then they SHOULD get a shot at the title, conference be damned. I think every team who makes it to a BCS bowl game should be eligible for the title game.
It would only extend the season for the top two teams, nobody has to deal with a playoff, and no bowl gets shortchanged. The Rose Bowl is not a play off game, it’s a top tier bowl game and there’s a chance that the outcome of that game will determine the championship. In fact, every BCS game is instantly relevant. Even #8 vs #6 becomes a key game because depending on who wins and loses, maybe somebody makes a big jump up to the final two.
In that situation it's always better to play a horrible opponent
I don’t think that’s what you want to encourage. If, for instance, Alabama plays West Virginia and LSU plays Clemson while the rest of the bowls stay the same that’s a hell of a lot better a situation than OKST playing Stanford. Sure, you have a chance – but that chance is almost entirely based on who your opponent is and who the other team’s opponents are. Selecting the top two teams from 1 set of random one-off games is as arbitrary and meaningless as the way it’s done now; in fact, it’s worse, since all that matters is that you got to that game and then how good you look in that game.
College football needs less of a popularity contest aspect, not more.
If I could kiss Nick Holt, I would. Though, with him, I’m sure it would end in deep penetration and a score
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I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
by benzduck on Feb 15, 2012 12:01 PM PST reply actions 6 recs
Doctor Bennett!?
Bent it, hell, I broke it.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
by benzduck on Feb 15, 2012 2:34 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
John Calapari is nuts
He opened up his practice today to the public AND Tv.
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
[Will Auction Off Sig To Highest Bidder]
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Why is Andrea Kramer trying to eye fuck me?
My name is not Bryce.
I want to pu my _____ in puddles' ______
And make him _______PLEASURE.
by Im Chris Hansen on Feb 15, 2012 12:17 PM PST reply actions
Crap in the ocean?
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Nah man, thems be fresh water fish.
And the ocean in general is pretty anti-Chris Hansen.
I don't mean to impose...
To be fair, you did show up with condoms and the wine coolers you were asked to bring.
I’m still trying to rebrand the reply fail.
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
Musgrave has made SURE that I know what the essential ingredients of a good camping trip are.
I don't mean to impose...
Keep up the fight, DUD
Someday, we will live in a world where “crap in the ocean” is widely recognized as “reply fail”
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by Babablockhead on Feb 15, 2012 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
What about "Crap in the sea"?
I don’t want it to look like a personal attack against TheOcean. I love “When the Going Gets Tough, The Tough Get Going”.
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
Either way. I am totally supportive of personal attacks. Any press is good press right?
I don't mean to impose...
A wise high school history teacher of mine once said
“Only two things will ruin a political career: being found with a dead little girl or a live little boy.”
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
From the twitters
The best photo in college basketball history.
"It's not about style. It's about winning the game. That's it." - Chip Kelly
by Duckfanatic10 on Feb 15, 2012 1:26 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
If I was playing in that game
I would laugh every time I ran down the court
Michael Jackson: A million dollars. You feel me? Holla!
by Babablockhead on Feb 15, 2012 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
The NTSB and FAA don't allow those at Autzen.
A stare from just one Chip Kelly can down a plane.
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Any baseball heads in the Portland area (or who want to listen online) should tune in for this.
@keithlaw
About to go on 1080 The Fan in Portland, Oregon to talk baseball (but probably not Top Chef)
"Forget it. If 21 gets behind you, you can play the fight song." --Scott Van Pelt
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I'll get the podcasted version
Keith Law is pretty awesome
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This is the actual logo for a company I had to communicate with on business matters...
It was very difficult keeping a straight face while doing so.
How about an OT ATQ vote…to the right of the company name do you see:
A) a satellite dish?
B) a giant boob?
"Stay the $#%& away from the Pelican’s PBJ!!!"
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I see a happy cyclops with a unibrow.
But I guess they all have those.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
They cropped out her left side.
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-W-O-O-Z-Y".
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Sorry, I find it hard to maintain my Linterest.
I've been chosen as an extra in the movie adaptation of the sequel to my life.
I am too busy to watch this game
It’s getting pretty chilly in here, I need to put up some Linsulation. And my Linolium needs to be cleaned. I have to walk my dog, but I’m looking forward to getting back Linside the house where it’s slightly warmer. I’m not going to watch the Blazers game tonight, they are bad right now, but you know what they say: you Lin some, you lose some.
Watch out!
You’re gunning for an opposite-gendered junk punch from Wavy Musgravy.
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 5:39 PM PST up reply actions
Is that when Bill punches you in the Lingina?
The All I Saw Was Green Blog, that's it I'm telling SBN legal
I don't really like to talk about it, but
YES!
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by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 5:50 PM PST up reply actions
Lin the Vagina, Lin the Vagina
I'm not here to cause no trouble, I'm just here to do the… well, I don't really know what I'm here to do.
by Bill Musgrave on Feb 15, 2012 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
Is it Lin yet?
Go ahead and run around with your off-season rumors. I'll be at the corner of Wait and 'C'.
by DuckUntilDeath on Feb 15, 2012 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
Did he shoot it? Then it's LIN!
"What you are entrusted to do as a coach is to create an environment where your players have a chance to be successful." CHIP KELLY
I was in the Bay Area two summers ago when the Warriors signed Lin. Some of their fans were all up in arms because they thought that signing Lin was just a publicity stunt to cater to the Warriors’ Asian fans.
I guess that wasn’t valid.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Feb 15, 2012 5:21 PM PST up reply actions
It was a publicity stunt to cater to the Warriors' Asian fans.
He just happens to play great for D’Antoni. If the Dubs were still playing Nellieball, he’d be in the mix.
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Death before chastity!
That seems contradictory considering that Nelson was still their coach when they signed him.
"I don't do well with pain medicine."
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Feb 15, 2012 7:29 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
The Knicks are stupid.
They need to start Bennett. Now.
I SHOULD HAVE DONE WHAT LARRY SCOTT DID AND TOLD YOU TO GO PLAY IN TRAFFIC INSTEAD - @DanBeebe
I still think Darron Thomas gives them the best shot at victory.
I'm not here to cause no trouble, I'm just here to do the… well, I don't really know what I'm here to do.
by Bill Musgrave on Feb 16, 2012 5:22 AM PST up reply actions
How many times do I have to tell you, the name's Musgrave.
I'm not here to cause no trouble, I'm just here to do the… well, I don't really know what I'm here to do.
by Bill Musgrave on Feb 16, 2012 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
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