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A Night of Mourning, but a Reason for Optimism

I'm really not quite sure what to say.  The game tonight is beyond words.  That was not the Oregon Ducks that lost to Arizona.  That was something unrecognizable.  We came into this season as deep as any team in the nation at the skill positions.  Yet, somehow, the injuries kept mounting and mounting, and finally they just could not be overcome.

Despite what some whiners out there will say, this season is not over.  There is a lot to play for.  There is a possible Rose Bowl and conference championship.  There is a Civil War.  And how long has it been since we've won a bowl game?  All those are still possible.  And I will get to that.  But first I need to vent.  I'll be over it after tonight, but I think that for one night we get to mourn.

First off, let me be forthright.  Arizona is a crap team.  And I have no problem saying that.  We lost to a crap team.  It happens.  I can live with that.  And if the voters want to plummet us to the ends of the Earth for losing to a crap team, I'm fine with that.  If Dixon doesn't get hurt, we roll over them.  But the national pundits will try to use this as yet another excuse for Pac-10 weakness, yada, yada, yada.  We all know that's a bunch of crap.  And that's all that matters.  Just know that for the last four games, we had the privilege of watching the best team in the country.  I really, truly belive that.  And losing a game with our second string offense isn't going to sour that for me.

And I just have to what if just one time.  What if Paysinger, Johnson, Colvin, Dixon, Tuitele, and Bacon had all stayed healthy?  The only game we saw that was the Michigan game.  What if.........

Obviously, the Dixon injury really hurt.  But I was really disheartened with the way our team responded to that injury.  They were just in a daze in the first half, and Arizona was rolling us.  Its understandable.  The emotions of losing your leader are really tough.  But, if the defense plays like themselves even a little, this game still has a different outcome.

Even with the injury, this game was there to be won.  There are three things that strike as really pivotal to this game:

  1.  Dropped passes.  We knew that a dropped pass would kill us eventually, but we figured it would be Jaison Williams.  Actually, Derrick Jones' drop in the end zone that turned into an interception was huge.  If we score right there to go up 15-0, the game is over.  But, as would happen all night, UA caught a lucky break.
  2.  Brady Leaf.  I don't want to imply that it was his fault we lost (although it was a very poorly QB'd game), but why in the world was he still in?  He was injured, playing abysmally, and had absolutely nothing more to give.  With his injury, he was even less mobile than normal, and couldn't throw a ball further than six yards.  I know that putting in Roper may or may not have worked, but Leaf clearly wasn't working, and we had three quarters of evidence to prove that.  Roper may have failed miserably, but given the situation, he should have had a chance.
  3.  The Ageyman fumble on the punt fake was brutal.  Why he decided to leap, I'll never know.
Those things go a bit differently, we probably win this game.  The best team in the country is too injured to win the national championship.  There is nothing we can do about those things, and harboring those thoughts will do nothing to harbor the cause.  You get one day to let them out.  As of Saturday, I want to hear no more of it.

The truth is, there is still an unbelievable amount to play for.  We haven't won a bowl game since 2001.  We haven't won a Rose Bowl since 1917.  And the Beavers are the reigning Civil War champions.  We still have a chance to do all of those things this year.  We'll need USC's help next week to get to the Rose Bowl, but other than that, we control the other two.  The true heart of a champion is determined by how they respond to adversity.  Our team was just punched in the mouth.  Are they going to just lie down, or are they going to keep fighting?

Obviously, concern #1 is the health of Dennis Dixon and Jonathan Stewart.  Even if Dixon hasn't suffered the worst (please, God), there is no way that he plays next week.  Which likely means another week of Brady Leaf.  As someone commented, I can't believe that they didn't have a better contingency plan for this scenario.  The offense was absolutely woeful.  Chip--you've got a week to figure it out.  Get something done.

As for Stewart, I really know nothing about his injury status (please, God).  Let's just pray for the best.  And I forgot, Jaison Williams looked a bit injured at the end.  Lets hope he's okay as well.

Two regular season games left.  I want them to be memorable.  I want to drive the stake in the heart of Karl Dorrell.  I want to reclaim Civil War victory.  But, most importantly, I want it to end positively for the kids who play on this team.  Regardless of this game, this is my favorite Duck team ever.  More so than 2001.  More so than 1994.  And, unlike those fair-weather fans who are proclaiming the season over, I still believe that they have something special in them.  They deserve to go out as champions, if not of the nation, then of the Civil War, the conference, and the Rose Bowl.

The marathon is not over yet.  We may have stumbled and lost a chance at the gold, but the silver is still there for the taking.

GO DUCKS!!!

--Dave

PS As much as I am trying to be optimistic, as the night wears on, its tough not to be pretty devistated by this. I just can't get over the fact that it was a shell of the real Ducks that we saw out there. And it really tells you how special Dennis is that he was able to mask the other injuries so well. I mean everything I said about the optimism, and everything that there still is to play for. But, damn. This one hurts. Like I said, one night of mourning.

PPS And why did it have to be Arizona? Is there a bigger jackass in college football than Mike Stoops (except maybe Bob?).

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  1. Wow, I can't believe how much our receivers (what's left of them) and our O-line have benefited from Dixon's mobility. Leaf wasn't getting a ton of time, all of a sudden the sideline rush plays for stew were being stopped, and the receivers didn't very look open often (though a half way decent QB could have gotten more 1st downs). Were opponents putting two spies on Dixon and all of a sudden they're free to run the field? although had leaf been able to trough some accurate screen passes it might have slowed down that pass rugh
  2. I can only come up with two reasons for Roper not going in, a) maybe he has been awful in practice - like still doesn't know the plays bad b) Belotti decided this was Leafs senior year and its his game to loose, no matter what.

by bradLL99 on Nov 15, 2007 10:44 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry about the game...
Sorry from Corvallis about the outcome; it would have been good for the state to have the Big Green Ducks playing for the national crown. I'm sure you'll forgive me for reverting to the default of hoping the Beavs mop up in the Civil War. But it was an unfortunate night for the state.

It's surprising how critical Dixon is (was?) to the Ducks' offense. Leaf is obviously slow and fairly inept; Dixon electric and explosive and forced teams to cover an offense that is (was?) unique.

The injury looked like a season-ender on TV, despite Dixon walking on it afterwards. The non-hit planting injuries like that seem to be pretty serious, in general. Hope for the best, but expect  the worst...

It will be interesting if an NFL team takes a chance on Dixon. He's obviously a great athlete, but what pro position does he play? A conversion project to wide out? Or to defensive back? Or a backup for whatever team takes a chance on Michael Vick's comeback, looking to install that particular offense? He seems so skinny, like he wouldn't last in the pro game. It will be interesting to see.

Anyway, hang in there Duck fans. 3 losses isn't bad!  (tee hee)

t

by timbo on Nov 15, 2007 10:47 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry Fella's
I feel odd even being on this site but we know how you feel, it happened to up 6 times in the last 30 years. As much as at means coming from a Dawg...Mortal enemies or not we were rooting for the PAC-10 to win another one.

by montlake1 on Nov 15, 2007 10:47 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm with you dave
This team, weathering injuries, close calls, and inconsistent recievers, is still the best offense in the country. With Dixon. I'm pretty optimistic about our changes of getting into the Rose Bowl, but we won't win another game unless Leaf and the coaches get it together. One last thing about Stewart: He is a warrior. Even with the entire Arizona defense keying on him for most of the game, he still managed to get over 100 yards rushing.

by pacer12 on Nov 15, 2007 10:48 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks, Dave
for getting back on the horse after a horrific spill. I'm not sure if there is way to prepare for the loss of the king, other than a two-quarterback contingency. Dennis' mobile style was the key to spreading out defenses and his absence made that abundantly clear. One particular irony was that I attended the game in Arizona two years ago where Kellen had his ankle crushed.
    If there is a silver lining in this game I think the defense did a marvelous job of holding AZ for as long as they did. The only reason I could have seen for keeping Roper out of the game was protecting his redshirt status, but?
    Injuries are a fact of life in football. I feel sometimes teams don't always prepare for not only the physical, but the psychological impact of lost players. I mean, were it not for the pick and the punt return Oregon would have been right in this game. But they truly seemed let down after Dennis left the game. And champions find ways to deal with adversity in the short-term and the long-term.
      I feel for Brady, for Jonathan, for the entire team. Too bad the game wasn't played on astroturf.

Go Ducks! Beat the Bruins and the Beavs!

by astroman on Nov 15, 2007 10:53 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He's already tossed a ball against Wazzu
Roper isn't a redshirt freshman. He even tossed a completed pass against Wazzu. He's passing at 100%!
Go Duckies!

by JShufelt on Nov 16, 2007 7:31 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What a craptacular suckathon
After enduring that brutal first half, losing the best QB and RB in the conference, and watching that great fake punt take a giant dump at the end of the run, this team still came back, scored, and came awfully close to holding Arizona and getting the ball back with a chance to tie.  Sure, Leaf played poorly, but I think our receiver injuries have just gutted our ability to even attempt anything long... we have gotten away with it because of DD's ability to conduct the offense.

Well, at least we don't have to watch polls anymore.

Next time we have a top-level quarterback and a toward-the end-of-season game at Arizona, can we just bench him for the first 3 quarters?

by engeljd on Nov 15, 2007 10:57 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

beating ASU
I tuned in towards the end of the first half tonight and genuinely couldn't process the score - my first thought was "something must have happened to Dixon."

Hopefully Dixon and Stewart will be able to recover enough to put the hurt on UCLA and Oregon State along with the rest of their team-mates.
 

by DC Trojan on Nov 15, 2007 11:09 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

duh
and to tie back to the original subject line, I think that SC is pretty motivated to beat ASU; I just hope they can do it.

by DC Trojan on Nov 15, 2007 11:10 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm sorry Dave
I don't know what else to say.  That was hard to watch and I just feel kind of empty now.  And this is from a very casual fan of the Ducks.  I can only imagine what all of you are feeling.  Been there with the Blazers in '91.  Still remember it.

I thought your assessment about dropped passes was accurate.  Leaf may not have had a good outing but the guys at the other end didn't help him either.  Hang on to a couple of those and maybe there's some light at the end of the tunnel.

Last thought:  Show me another highly-ranked college team that loses, what...it's top four skill players?  Tell me how they fare after that.

--Dave

by BlazerDave on Nov 16, 2007 2:19 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why isn't anyone bitching....
about the real problems that were shown last night.
  1.  Leaf was AWFUL!  Not only that, all night the reporters and even Leaf's bro went on about how this offense isn't made for leaf and leaf wouldn't even be here if they originally had this offense.  Maybe thats true.  So what the FUCK are our coaches thinking not having some osrt of backup plan.  There was NONE!  Oh. im sorry..there was a plan B....Have leaf run the same exact running play to stewart every single play.  I mean even ARIZONA can adjust to that kind of playcalling.  
  2.  Even I knew Dixon was going to be worse (health condition) than he was letting on.  I knew it.  I understand Dixon has a lot going for him this year but his pride might have just taken him out for the rest of the year (I love Dixon to death and I understand to need for him to play both for the team AND for himself)  Anyways, he had to have known he was worse than he was.  This hiding of information is crap.  We had a week off.  Work with leaf for two weeks in practice but say Dixon is going to start.  Practice heavily with Roper..SOMETHING.  Dixon should NOT have played at all last night.
  3.  Why wern't our choaches firing up our defense before the half.  We were letting them score at will.  And as reported..instead of putting anybody's ass in a vice nobody was talking on th sideline.  Dixon is down..somebody step up to some leadership
Anyways....i tried sleeping off my aggitation but alas It's the next day and I'm PISSED.  Not sad...not in morning.. PISSED.  Yes we had  lost a lot of players...But that game still should have been ours.

Fuck!

   

by the pac rat on Nov 16, 2007 5:46 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pac -10 Rose Bowl scenario
What are the different scenarios for the Ducks to play in the Rose Bowl?  Obviously they need to win out, but what has to happen to USC and Az St?  If USC Wins, do the Ducks have the tiebreaker over them since they beat them?

by vgr23 on Nov 16, 2007 7:10 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somethin' like that.
If Arizona St. loses to USC, and if Oregon can beat UCLA and Oregon St. then we got he Rose Bowl.
Go Duckies!

by JShufelt on Nov 16, 2007 7:35 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep.. best way..
in that case there will be a three way 7-2 tie for first place. oregon will automatically get the rose bowl bid because they beat both others.

by falseintellect on Nov 16, 2007 8:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So many things were wrong...
I don't blame Arizona for anything. We made a few key mistakes, and we also had a couple bad calls (Which we failed to respond to after the fact).

But I 100% agree with the comments about Leaf. He was ineffective completely. He threw ONE good pass that I saw, all the rest, the receivers had to work for them. The way I see it, with Leaf (Especially injured), it was a sure thing that he was going to produce well. Roper was a gamble, but at least he would give a chance. I don't usually call for someone to be benched, but Leaf actually looked like a freshman on the field with making bad reads, bad passes, and bad choices.

Go Duckies!

by JShufelt on Nov 16, 2007 7:41 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've regrouped
Lets go win a Conference and a Rose Bowl

by tdawg on Nov 16, 2007 8:12 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Condolensces from someone who's been there
Wow, if it's any comfort (and I know it isn't), I know how you guys feel.  Only last hear basically the same thing happened to Cal, in the same place, at near the same time.

I was absolutely rooting for you to run the table after our game, and after your win agaisnt $C I was convinced this was your year.  

Still, the Rose Bowl is within grasp.  Take care of business and look for $C to beat ASU, and you're in.  But more important than that (on a purely selfish level), I really hope you boys pound the ever-loving snot out of the babybruins.  That will feel good even if it is the Holiday Bowl this year.

Best of luck on your last two games.

Go Ducks and (for the love of god) Go Bears!

by SoCal Oski on Nov 16, 2007 8:44 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks a lot SoCal Oski
You do Cal fans proud.
Go Duckies!

by JShufelt on Nov 16, 2007 9:32 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks for the condolences
It's really impressive how many fellow Pac-10ers have posted here today. What sportmanship displayed by all, it's really heartening to read this comments.
We feel your pain Cal, we really do. I was not ashamed of losing to you guys when we did at all (I was pretty furious about that #@$#% touchback but that wasn't Cal's fault). And I sincerely hope we pound the ever-loving snot out of those Bruins too.

by KTClovestheducks on Nov 16, 2007 11:51 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed.
The game was a heart breaker for us, but you gave us 100%, and it was a great game to watch. I've been sad to see Cal fall down like it has.
Go Duckies!

by JShufelt on Nov 16, 2007 12:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think we need a Pac-10 group hug...
We keep beating each other up.
Go Duckies!

by JShufelt on Nov 16, 2007 12:11 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stoops
I had never seen Mike Stoops in action and I didn't get why so many people ragged on him.

Totally get it now.  What a piece of work.

by Viskovitz on Nov 16, 2007 8:45 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's just hope...
that we can make the proper adjustments for Leaf to do anything, something, in the weeks ahead. The lack of a Plan B last night was so frustrating. Let's hope they can figure out what that Plan B is.

Why in the hell were we still running the option? It's not much of an "option" if the quarterback keep isn't one of them. All the defense had to do was key on the running back when we showed it because obviously Leaf isn't a running threat. It was a shit show.

Leaf is terrible, but if we can possibly make him feel comfortable in the pocket against UCLA, I think we'll be alright. Hopefully Bellotti can instill some confidence around him.

Oh, and what was the deal with constantly showing (and interviewing) Ryan Leaf? That guy is the definition of a loser and I don't want him spreading his loserness on the sideline. Get him a seat in the stands.

I realize that's harsh, but I still haven't gotten over it. Work is going to suck today.

by dp on Nov 16, 2007 9:13 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plan B...
We did not run our offense last night.  We went to plan B (Ironically, Leaf actually did better on the option than he did throwing).  He threw the ball 42 times.  42 damn times.  That seems like a plan B to me.  Unfortunately, Leaf could not hit the broad side of a barn.  He couldn't get the ball within 5 yards of his receiver if the pass was over 5 yards down the field.  Top that all off with absolutely horrible decision making and it wouldn't matter what the plan was.  Leaf could no execute anything last night.  

I mean, we didn't even need someone who could make plays like Dennis.  All that was needed was to actually throw a decent pass.  To compound matters, he made poor decision after poor decision (running when he shouldn't, fumbles, stupid abominable interceptions, intentional groundings).  It was quite possibly the worst QB performance I've seen in a long time.

As for Leaf feeling comfortable, our blocking wasn't as good as it could have been but Leaf's mechanics were absolutely deplorable.  We was jumpy, and could not just sit back and survey the field.  He was "scrambling" after about .7 seconds, and then making horrible throws.

I thought about it for a while...but really, with QB play like that, there is NOTHING that could have been different.  There is just about no offense that could be executed when your QB play is that poor.  I feel really bad for Darren McFadden, since he's had to put up with this all year.

As for Ryan Leaf...fuck that asshole.  Hopefully this will bring a smile to your face.  

If Leaf can't start hitting passes that he should hit (and hit last year), we don't stand a chance, no matter what Kelly tries to pull out of his ass.

by jtlight on Nov 16, 2007 9:45 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh my...thanks. Thank you so much
for posting that link. That honestly made my day. That Bangladesh thing made me laugh out loud. Then with the Beluga Whale bit. Whoo boy. That Orson Swindle really knows how to churn out the comedy.

Also, good points above. I didn't realize that he passed that many times (definitely a good point to the Plan B). I think I was numb after 3 quarter.

by dp on Nov 16, 2007 10:18 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Option
I seem to recall Leaf actually being better than you'd expect at running the option.  

But that was back when he was sophomore.  He's gotten progressively WORSE every year since then.

And yeah, enough with Ryan Leaf.

Kind of dismayed that the Ducks didn't seem to have a better Plan B at QB.  

by Viskovitz on Nov 16, 2007 9:48 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ryan Leaf is definitely the herald of disaster
ESPN was trying to torture us Duck fans last night. How many crowd shots with those damn "Duck Hunting" "Upsets Live Here" posters did they show? And why in God's name would they ever bring Ryan Leaf down to the sideline to talk about his brother's performance? What a-hole producer sincerely thought that would be a good idea?! We were all hoping against hope that Brady would not put on his version of the completely-come-apart-nervous-breakdown QB show and they bring Ryan Fing Leaf down. Salt in the wounds you ESPN jerks, salt in the wounds.

I know this is harsh but I have little to no hope for Brady. I do have hope for the rest of the team and I couldn't agree with Dave more that this is a special Ducks team that deserves to go out as champions. I have hope for the rest of the team, just not for Brady. I actually thought our 0-line gave him a lot of protection and time for mayn of those plays. And after that disastrous first quarter and the early part of the second quarter our defense absolutely did their job. They held Arizona at 31 points for the equivalent of 2 and half quarters of regulation time. Yes, they were not doing their jobs when we got in the hole but they bucked up and did them the rest of the game.

If we are to have any hope I think it's still in Dennis. Can we just take a moment and think back on this kid's career? How remarkably has he blossomed this year as a leader and an enormous personal talent? Do you remember the Dennis Dixon that had to play when Kellen Clemens got injured back in 2004? Do you remember the Dennis Dixon that subsequently passed off the QB job with Leaf for the next two seasons? I do and he was absolutely not the Dennis we've seen this season. When he went down on that field I was heartbroken, not just for the team but for the Dennis that has come so far. I don't have any problem admitting that when he had tears in his eyes on the bench I did too. I want to take a day to mourn just for Dennis and for how hard he worked to come this far and for the stellar season he now most likely will not be able to finish. The untimely end of his college career (if it happens) will nothing short of a tragedy because of how far he's come. My prayers today will be with him and his family as they face this MRI.

by KTClovestheducks on Nov 16, 2007 11:34 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant to end with
I meant to end that comment differently, hit the post button too soon - What I meant by saying if we have any hope it's still in Dennis is not that I don't think we can win if he doesn't come back. I think we can. I think if we have any hope it's in Dennis (and of course Chip) working with Brady as much as possible this next week. Dennis has personally made an amazing turn around in terms of being confident, calm, and level-headed during the game. He needs to impart some of that wisdom on Brady and help Brady get over the loss and get his head back in the upcoming games. Dennis has been the leader of this team all year and he still can be. I was so proud of him both times he got injured being out there on the sideline, putting his bravest face on, and cheering the team in any way he could. He can't make an enormous difference during a game like that but I think he can in practice. Whatever news the MRI brings today will probably be difficult for him to deal with. Even if he could come back for a potential bowl game it's probably going to sincerely wound him that he won't be able to finish the season. As horrendous as the situation he will be in is the fate of this team is still squarely in his hands. If he find the personal strength to get past his personal pain and disappointment then he can definitely help this team next week.

by KTClovestheducks on Nov 16, 2007 11:44 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Go Ducks
i can't tell you all how much i enjoyed watching dixon lead this team this season. i know i'm being a bit pessimistic, but popping sensations and knees bending in that way are almost sure signs of ligament damage.

he's an extraordinary athlete and great teammate. i think he is even more deserving of the heisman after his injury. he dealt with a lot, but was smiling and supporting his team on the sidelines in any way he could. also, who could deny he was the keystone in the nation's best offense? the second he went down everything went down. even defense and special teams couldn't react to the loss. and it was dixon who personally made up for every loss on offense. losing two receivers and a back usually spells disaster for any team, but he single handedly made up for it. it was a truly amazing performance, i only hope the heisman voters have the memory to make the right decision.

but none of that takes away from this amazing season. belotti was right, it was fun while it lasted. both college game days were amazing. seeing oregon on the front page of the USA Today sports page. beating USC in autzen. beating ASU, a top-5 BCS team, in autzen. running up the score in the Big House. my hat goes off to these guys and me heart goes out to those that have fallen with injuries.

we're still in a position to win the Pac-10 and represent our great state in the Rose Bowl--two extraordinary accomplishments in their own rite. i believe chip and belotti can make the necessary changes and Leaf has my full support. this is his senior year, and with dixon down, this is his season.

Ducks

by beatthebeavs on Nov 16, 2007 10:50 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sports column out of Tucson
It wasn't a "make'' game for the Ducks but it was indeed a "break'' game. Their season is irretrievably broken. At what point in the next decade or quarter-century can they truly expect to go to Game 10 of the season with both Heisman Trophy and national championship hopes so realistic?
Probably never.

complete article:
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/wildcats/211972

by NorWest23 on Nov 16, 2007 10:51 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Still in top 5
This site estimates BCS rankings at the end of the season: www.PlayWhatIf.com
If we win out, we'll still be in the top 5. Time to re-group, Go Ducks!

by sealfeeder on Nov 16, 2007 11:23 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Did anybody else read this in the Register Guard?
The ducks made plenty of mistakes to lose the game but the refs sure didn't do them any favors. From the Eugen Register Guard "However, Oregon's second-half featured several missed opportunities, including a fumble by Agyeman after he ran 40 yards with a fake punt. Agyeman, who lost the ball as he was coming down after being flipped heels-over-head on a tackle, insisted that he recovered his own fumble.
"I looked the referee in the eye, and we had a conversation for about a minute," Agyeman said. "He told me it was our ball. He said, `White ball, get up 30, it's your ball, your ball.'
"I took one of my hands off the ball and went, `Are you sure?' and he said yes. I took the other one off, and the other guy overruled him. The ref who told me to get off the ball apologized to me the next series. It is what it is.""

Between this and the no call on the blatent block in the back of the gunner that sprang Cason for punt return for the touchdown.

Somebody get Tom Hansen on the Phone...refs need to get better.

This just sucks I am pissed off let it be known from here on out as black friday.

I heart Kelly Clemmons - Vern Lunquist

by quackMCquacksalot on Nov 16, 2007 4:00 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The game was so poorly officiated
It wasn't totally clear, but most people thought that the ball was under Oregon's control and then stolen in the scrum.  It was total absolute crap that the refs let that happen.  Only in the Pac 10.  

Thanks for making us a laughingstock Hansen, you useless senile old man.

by jtlight on Nov 16, 2007 4:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There was no way they got possession.
I still think it's clear, unless little hands grew out of the Arizona's player's butt and grabbed a hold of the ball. Gah. I was doing just fine and dandy until I read that. Now I'm pissed again.
Go Duckies!

by JShufelt on Nov 17, 2007 1:16 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta Win 2
No need to duplicate the comments above, since we all are feeling exactly the same things. The question now is..."Is Roper so bad or inexperienced that they don't give him (a qb recruited to run the spread) the ball???"

I hope Chip either has an offense designed to take advantage of a gimpy Leaf, or one designed to cover for a young Roper.  If Stewart can't go, it probably won't matter. Crenshaw's good, but he can't take over a game.

If the team that goes to Pasadena next week is devoid of the stars, will UCLA do it's usual talent matching and keep us in the game?

Assuming $C takes out the Devils and we win out, the Rose Bowl is still ours. If the team gets healthier(paysinger, stewart, pflugrad, jones) we could still take out an overrated OSU team or demoralize the wolverines for a second time. Either outcome is perfectly acceptable to me.

by wustl duck on Nov 16, 2007 9:16 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Assuming...
I don't think Pac-10 wins can be assumed in the best of times; going into LA and playing the Bruins is a tenuous proposition with the first team, let alone the decimated situation now...

Granted, UCLA is one of the teams bad enough to have lost to Notre Dame this year... But I wouldn't be making reservations for Pasadena just yet.

And then there's the "overrated" Beavers, who have one of the top run defenses in the USA, I note. Good luck with that Leaf fellow... Home teams have won the Civil War consistently, but I wouldn't necessarily "assume" that one either.

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