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Dave's Thoughts on Bellotti/UCLA

Please see jtlight's thoughts below.

Whoa, didn't see this one coming.

So, I miss a few days due to basketball, look up, and see that is flirting with UCLA about their head coaching position.  While this is out of the blue, its not completely surprising:

  • Bellotti has not been paid at the level of marquee coaches (he makes about 1.56 mil)
  • He's been facing criticism from the Oregon fan base over the last couple of seasons
  • A big reason that Bellotti stayed in the early part of the decade was family.  His son is currently a UO senior.

That said, you have to ask yourself whether Bellotti really wants to leave Eugene.  By all objective standards, Oregon is a better program than UCLA.  Better facilities, more big time donors willing to step up for the football program, and UO isn't little brother in its own area.  UCLA should have a bit of a recruiting advantage based on area, but that's becoming more and more irrelevant in today's college football.  At best, its a lateral move, and more likely a step down.  So, you have to ask, why is Bellotti flirting with UCLA?

Its always possible that he wants a change of scenery.  But you don't just leave almost assured job security just to see if its greener on the other side.  I have to believe that the answer is money.

Bellotti isn't being mentioned for the Ohio States and USCs like he once was.  He has never been paid 2-3 mil per year like the big boys.  UCLA bungled its search and missed out on its top targets.  Since nobody thought Bellotti was going anywhere, you have to figure that UCLA was throwing calls out and seeing what sticks.  And, if UCLA is at best lateral, you have to figure that they started talking the big bucks.  Bellotti probably figures that he can throw this around and leverage Oregon into a new deal.

This is the assumption that I'm going on, because MB has given no indication that he doesn't want to be here.  If he doesn't let him go.  If he does, than we have issues that we need to discuss.  Because if he wants 2-3 million, that money has to come from somewhere.  Which basically means that Uncle Phil has to decide if he wants to foot that bill.  Or, Bellotti needs to decide that his legacy at Oregon is worth taking a little less (especially because 1.5 million in Eugene is worth more than 2 million in LA).

Ultimately, this is all speculation.  The bottom line is that I'm sure we're all pretty shocked by this development.  I'm not going to sweat it right now, but if he does go, things get really interesting:

What becomes of the recruiting class?
What becomes of Chip Kelly?
Who becomes the new head coach?

MB has been here since 1995.  Ernie Kent since 1997.  These are questions we don't face often at Oregon.  Hopefully, MB makes the right choice and we don't have to face them.  But what if is starting to come up on the radar.

But I'm 99% sure that this is a ploy for more $

GO DUCKS!!!

--Dave

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Bellotti Staying?
Moseley is hearing that Bellotti has told Oregon he is staying.  Nothing official yet, though.

by ntrebon on Dec 21, 2007 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Not surprising
Its in his best interests to end this thing quickly.  Don't want to send recruits the wrong message.

by David Piper on Dec 21, 2007 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep
Especially if he had no intention of really leaving and just wanted that contract finalized with some extra money...

by ntrebon on Dec 21, 2007 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

not paid as a marquee coach
MB is not paid as a marquee coach because in fact, he is not a marquee coach.  The Fiesta bowl was great...then the loss to wake forrest in the Seattle? (i think) bowl, loss to minnesota in the sun bowl, loss to  the Beavs to fail to be bowl eligible, loss to sooners in the holiday bowl, blowout loss to BYU in the las vegas bowl.. Cmon, any marquee team with that record over the past 5 years would have fired their coach long ago.  Even a middle of the pack SEC team with that record would have fired him.  I hope he leaves and good riddance.

by coolconman on Dec 21, 2007 12:05 PM PST reply actions  

And...
It's official (from Moseley).  Bellotti is sticking around.  Apparently, the University will make an announcement soon.

by ntrebon on Dec 21, 2007 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

Moseley with Kilkenny
Here's Moseley's report after meeting with Kilkenny.

by ntrebon on Dec 21, 2007 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

What I don't get
Watching this from afar (midwest) and having followed UO football for 30+ years, I really don't understand the amount of anti-Bellotti feeling there is out there among fans.  

He seems like a pretty normal guy, if high-ego (but how could you not be and be a successful major-college head coach?)  His players graduate, they don't bring bad publicity to the school, he generally selects good assistants, the program is stable.  He's adjusted to changes in the game with great success. Etc.  

It's true the Ducks have finished weakly in November lately, but that hasn't always been the case -- in his first six years or so, I think he was near-undefeated in November.  And this year was just monumental bad luck.  But they've made a couple of national-title runs, and they seem poised to stay at that level.

The animus towards him seems pretty personal.  Does he do something on TV that I don't see back here in Chicago?  ....

The more I think about it, it just seems like envy and petty resentment.  The kind of Church Lady outlook that Canzano has in spades, and that I think is more prevalent in Oregon than other parts of the country.

Anyway....

by Viskovitz on Dec 21, 2007 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

I think that some fans
just have unrealistic expectations.  They think we should be winning national championships every year, which is just asinine.

by David Piper on Dec 21, 2007 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah...
I guess I still can't get used to the idea of Oregon fans having those kinds of expectations.  It's a different world back there than the one I grew up in.  Which is fine.

by Viskovitz on Dec 21, 2007 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Belotti Not a Candidate for UCLA Coaching Job
I know it's hard to resist the gossip, but it looks like we don't have anything to worry about.  Everything our ATQ boys have said about Belotti's reasons to stay seem to have held up.  Check out the link:

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7592768?MSNHPHMA

A. Dobson

by adobson on Dec 21, 2007 2:59 PM PST reply actions  

Unrealistic Expectations
@ Viskovitz
Dave's response to your question was spot on. College football fans can be supremely idiotic about their teams. I still vividly remember fans wearing "Ditch Rich" t-shirts back in '94 during the season. That would be the season he led the Ducks to the Rose Bowl. And that was after he'd resurrected the football program from perennial 2-9 teams to at least teams that had to be taken seriously and went to mid tier bowls.
Now Bellotti has led the program to national prominence, is recruiting nationally, and before the freakish amount of injuries overwhelmed the team this year, had the Ducks on the cusp of the national title game... and still people want him fired?!
The people that call for Bellotti's head are people that lack either a solid base in reality or any sense of historical perspective. Brooks was a good coach. Bellotti is a good coach. The university has been lucky to have both of them.

by flak on Dec 21, 2007 3:46 PM PST reply actions  

my reaction...
I think the "communications" between Coach Bellotti and UCLA went something like this:

UCLA: "Coach, would you be interested in our recently vacant coaching position?"

Bellotti: "Absolutely not."

UCLA: "Pretty please?  Just listen to what we have to see.  Pretty please with a cherry on top?"

Bellotti: "Please, lose my number and don't ever call me again.  Why in the hell would i want to leave a beautiful place like Eugene with a great football program to go to a smog pit like LA to coach for a school that isn't even the top school in their own city?.  Goodbye." <UO Fight song playing in the background>

I'm glad this rumor has already been squashed. I think Coach Bellotti should be Oregon's JoePa.

More National TV games...don't make me pay $22/weekend to see my Ducks on TV in San Diego!

by saregister on Dec 21, 2007 3:56 PM PST reply actions  

And it took a week and a half...
...for this to play out?

Doesn't really fit with his comments either...

by SuperBruinMan on Dec 21, 2007 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Doesn't Fit?
Not sure what you mean other than this should have been shown to be a non-issue in a couple of days?  Maybe, but just because we are only hearing about this now doesn't mean there was any real substance to the meeting.

I don't know about any of you, but no job I've had is so great that I don't even listen when someone of UCLA's caliber comes repeatedly knocking on my door.  You've gotta at least hear the question before you dismiss it out of hand. That's just normal career strategy.

Sure, with a college coach the implications ratchet up a few spots, but this started and stopped pretty quickly. In the end Bellotti stays here which is fine with me. If he'd left, I would have been a bit pissed about the timing but the program is as strong as it's ever been and should have no problem getting another strong coach with the facilities and strong support from certain shoe company leaders.

Good luck Bruin-Man, UCLA is still a great place to coach, despite what Dorrell and Toledo showed. Don't you want New-weasel taking over the reins so he can drive your program into the ground like he did with Colorado and Washington?

by wustl duck on Dec 21, 2007 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

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