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Breakin' it Down: A Real Preview of Oregon/Cal

Gotta love Cal fans.  They come in here and criticize me on my first thoughts (not even real analysis), and then drop gems like this (these are actually found in the comments):

I expect Cal to hold Oregon to under 150 yards on the ground (Oregon was 1-5 last year when held under 150 yards) because of how well our LB have been playing. We have held everyone under 157 yards on the ground.

You expect to hold the fourth leading team in rushing under 150 yards because you did so to an Arizona team that doesn't want to run and a Tennessee team that was minus their starting tailback?  Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.

Or, gems like this one:

Dixon may be playing better, but he's still Dennis Dixon and the Bears defense knows what to expect out of him. Same goes for Jonathan Stewart--it's not like he's come out of nowhere, and just because he's running well so far this year doesn't mean he's a phenomenally better player than he was in his previous campaigns with Oregon.

God, I hope that the Cal defense feels that way.  Then it really will be an easy game.

And if you think that these comments are ignorant/arrogant, you should read the Cal blogs:

This from Rose Bowl Before I Die, who claim that Cal will not only beat Oregon, but do so easily.  Read their gem of a post, which takes for granted things like Cal being able to hold Stewart to under 100, etc.

And, while I hate to criticize my colleagues at TBIOOTF, they chip in with garbage like this:

What is different?
Perhaps the only thing different is that this game is in Autzen, which I am sorry to say, is not the homefield advantage it is purported to be. The Ducks were blown out, at home by Arizona last year. The haven't had an undefeated home season since 2000-2001. The Bears went undefeated at home in both 2004 and 2006, yet, no one says Memorial is a great homefield advantage.  

So, now not only is nothing different than last year, but Autzen doesn't really provide a home field advantage?  Why don't they ask Lloyd Carr about that.  But if you really think that what happened last year makes a lick of difference, then you only need to look at you own performance against Tennessee.  This isn't going to be an easy game for either team.  When I really break it down, here is what I see:

Cal's Offense vs. Oregon's Defense

We all know that Oregon has trouble stopping the run, and I expect a steady dose of Justin Forsett this game.  However, Forsett has been a bit banged up himself this year, as has his offensive line.  And his fullback, Will Ta'ufo'ou has a torn PCL.  He probably will play, but a torn knee ligament has to limit your effectiveness.  Try to limit the big plays in the run game, but I would attack the weakness of their offense, and that's the passing game.

While our offensive line doesn't do great against the run, they have a great pass rush.  Longshore isn't the most mobile guy out there, so I would throw a variety of blitzes at him and try to get him to pass under pressure.  Our defensive backs are the strength of the defense, and I like their chances against the Cal receivers, especially with DeSean Jackson not at 100%.  Cal's depth behind Forsett at RB is limited, as Best and Montgomery have both seen very limited action (13 and 19 carries, respectively).  And I don't think that Forsett can do a Mike Hart and run the ball 45 times.  That means Cal is going to have to pass, and when they do, I'd try and make Longshore's life a living hell.

Another thing that we have going for us is that the game is at Autzen.  Despite the fact that many Cal fans want to downplay the home field advantage, they're only fooling themselves.  Longshore has a history of not playing well in hostile venues.  And Cal had 14 penalties last week.  While most of those were on defense, we know Autzen is always good for a couple of false starts a game.

Forsett will get a ton of yards, no doubt about that.  But Cal hasn't yet faced a team that combines a good pass rush and really good secondary.  As long as our secondary can keep Lavelle Hawkins from getting open over the middle, we should be able to limit their passing game and put a lot of pressure on their running game to keep up with our offense.  Its Aliotti defense.  We might bend with the running game, but our secondary should prevent us from breaking.  Basically, see the Michigan game.

Oregon's Offense vs. Cal's Defense

We all know what Cal's gameplan was last year.  Stack the box, shut down the running game, and force Dixon to beat you.  And we all know what the result was.  Many Cal fans seem to think that the same thing will happen with the same result.  There is a lot of reason to believe that won't happen.  We all know that Dixon and Stewart are better and Stewart is much healthier.  Plus, the dynamics of shutting down our running game are different than they were a year ago.

But Cal's personnel has as much to do with it as anything.  They lost three all-conference players from last year--Hughes, Mebane, and Bishop.  They lost seven starters overall, so there really is a lot of newer players on this defesnse.  Only Matthew Malele returns on the line (he will play this week), and Rulon Davis won't play.  And while Cal has great linebackers, their depth is severely limited due to the fact that their best defensive player, Zack Follett, probably won't play.  At the pace Oregon plays, the lack of depth on the line and at linebacker are one of the biggest advantages that Oregon has over the California defense.

In the secondary, Mike Decoud is a very good safety.  But Brandon Hampton should not be able to hang with our receivers, and Syd'Quan Thompson is prone to giving up the big play.  Cal's secondary gives up a lot of yards, and opponents complete 66% against the Bears.  A lot of it is nickel and dime stuff as Cal has the same "bend but don't break mentality."  The biggest difference is that our pace will really exploit the injuries in their defense, and cause them to tire.  They also have to worry about Dixon's legs as well as his feet.  Oregon's offense should get stronger as the game goes on and the Cal defense tires.

Special Teams

Here's where I really think that the pundits have it all wrong.  Most people think that Cal has the advantage in the special teams because of DeSean Jackson's and his ability as a punt returner.  But consider this.  Cal ranks 98th in the nation in covering kickoff returns.  Oregon ranks eighth in the country in kickoff returns.  This means that the Ducks should be able to start their drives in excellent field position.  Not only that, but with Josh Syria's penchant for unreturnable punts, Stewart is actually more likely than Jackson to score a special teams touchdown in this game.

Both teams have solid punting, and the kicking is a wash.  Both teams are very good in both return games, but the Ducks seem to cover better.

Conclusion

These teams are very even in a lot of ways.  Both have great running games, big time receivers, and suspect defenses.  They say that big games come down to turnovers and big plays, but that's a cop out. Oregon has three major advantages that should give them an edge in this game:

  1.  Oregon has one of the best playmakers in the country at quarterback, while Cal has an average quarterback who is one dimensional.  Its like Donovan McNabb vs. Trent Dilfer.  If there is heavy pressure on Longshore, he will likely take a sack or throw the ball away.  If he tries anything else, it equals turnover.  Dixon can make plays with his legs, and that will force the defense to play on its heels.
  2.  Key injuries to Cal, especially on defense, will really hurt them.  At Oregon's no huddle tempo, they will tire.  As the game goes on, Oregon will have more and more of an advantage.
  3.  The game is at Autzen.  And despite the wishes of Cal fans, the home field advantage will be as big as ever.  With the magnitude of this game, and it being the first with students back in town, the place will be rockin'.  At the very least, it will cause Cal to commit penalties and burn timeouts.  And, more likely, Longshore craps his pants and blows the game.
Cal tires as the game goes on and Oregon pulls away.  Final score:  45-32 Ducks.

GO DUCKS!!!

--Dave

Update [2007-9-28 13:17:34 by Dave]: The folks over at Rose Bowl Before I Die has retorted my analysis with one of their own. I don't agree with everything they say, but they make some good points that are worth a read. Especially, and I'll say this again, about how dangerous Jahvid Best really is.

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by bay area bear on Sep 28, 2007 12:13 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So glad that you're fixated on last year
you'll have something positive to think about on Saturday night.

I don't really care if you try to rip my analysis, look at the garbage that the Cal sites are trying to pass off.

by Addicted to Quack on Sep 28, 2007 8:46 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garbage
If we're posting garbage, you're posting feces.

by Eli on Sep 28, 2007 11:14 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sooooooooo insightful.
Do you see what I'm getting at here Dave?  You just can't reason with these idiots.  This place should be treated like a clubhouse of sorts, and fools like this shouldn't even be let in the front door.
Dan Fouts is a douche!

by PacBellBoozer on Sep 28, 2007 11:21 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey buddy...
I've got TWO letters for you.

F  U

Dan Fouts is a douche!

by PacBellBoozer on Sep 28, 2007 9:01 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Insight
Clearly that was more insightful than what I said above.

by Eli on Sep 28, 2007 12:06 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You're right...it was
I didn't have to pollute YOUR website with my filth.    See how that works?  You stay in your corner, and we'll stay in ours.
Dan Fouts is a douche!

by PacBellBoozer on Sep 28, 2007 1:19 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the good entertainment.
I have enjoyd reading the back and forth point/counterpoint on your site.  My wife and I are Cal alumni living in Oregon so we have gotten our fair share of messages from friends/neighbors/co-workers this week.  Our Cal flag will be flying high in front our house this week.  I have decided not to hang Donald Duck from a rope since I will be at the game all day and would hate see how my neighbors would respond.  Great site and thanks for the good entertainment.  Go Bears!!!

by mybearterritory on Sep 28, 2007 2:28 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Keep on flamin'
It would seem that an institution with such a great history of intellectualism would be able to procure a few people with an ounce of common sense and rationality. All Dave is doing is providing solid stats and reasonable possibilities for intangible influences on the game (injuries, home field advantage, mismatches, etc). All of this blather is beginning to embarass me for being a UC grad (Davis). I think the true embarassment is going to come Saturday when the Ducks expose how Cal is simply overrated.

G

by astroman on Sep 28, 2007 1:09 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good Preview Dave
I think a lot of Cal fans are fooling themselves, living in the past and discounting the team they are playing against.  I don't know of any duck fans that are thinking about last year (for good reason).  Cal fans are just not looking at the current teams.

I think Cals offense is more high powered than Michigan, but our gameplan will be very similar.  Hart did, and Forsett will, get his carries and yards, but on every drive, there will come a time when he gets a loss, and they will be forced to throw.  Longshore is inconsistent and bad on the road, plain and simple.  I see Cal getting points, but not as many as our O will get.

On the other side of the ball, our offense has matured at most positions.  We have a better O-line (per Scouts Inc.), that is incredibly deep.  With our pace, there is no way Cal can keep up.  I have not heard one Cal fan mention this.  I don't see them forcing 3 and outs, which is what they will need to keep up.  It is also quite foolish to assume the same thing will happen as last year without looking at the current situation.

Also, what they also forget is our X-factor, Chip Kelly.  This guy plays it simple yet has many tricks as well.  Spread out the field and give it to your playmakers.  Get good matchups.  Crowton seemed to forget this.  He has done an amazing job with the offense and I think he'll call another great game.  

I like your prediction.  I said 42-31 over on Moseley's blog.

I am totally pumped up for tomorrow and cannot wait!! GO DUCKS!

by jtlight on Sep 28, 2007 6:53 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good article
Right after I wrote that, I saw this article, which is great, which is on Dixon and Kelly.  

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/sports/119094813296650.xml&coll=7

It is absolutely foolish for Bears fans to discount Dixon because of what happened last year.  He is getting put in good positions and has progressed light years.  There is a reason why everyone around the country is calling him the most improved player.  Not just because of his numbers, but how he plays the game.  He sees the field, he stopped panicking.  If I was a Cal fan, I would be very afraid.

by jtlight on Sep 28, 2007 6:58 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We're guaranteed the win
Skip Bayless just picked Cal to win the game on First Take.  I don't think we can lose now. ;)

by jtlight on Sep 28, 2007 7:42 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow
People actually watch that show now?
Dan Fouts is a douche!

by PacBellBoozer on Sep 28, 2007 9:03 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We should just admit that
Cal is far better than Oregon.  

So to Cal congrats on the win against Oregon, congrats on another win against USC, and congrats on making it to the rose bowl again!(how many years in a row is that now.)

by tdawg on Sep 28, 2007 8:04 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't have a dog in this fight
but calling longshore mediocre is a little unrealistic.

by baal on Sep 28, 2007 10:13 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Long is inconsistent and bad on the road
Longshore is below average in road games.  Last year, on his road games, his passer ratings were
42 (TN), 133 (OSU), 46 (WSU), 45 (Arizona), and 46 (USC).  This year, at CSU his rating was 78.  For a reference, Longshore's career rating is 133.  Longshore is, by all measures, a poor road QB.  He has one good road game in 7 attempts.

Also, as much as Cal fans are poo-pooing Autzen, it is gonna be loud, it is gonna be raucous, and he's never played there.  There is a reason why Autzen is always mentioned in college footballs toughest places to play.  If I was a Cal fan, I would hope the game wasn't put on Longshore's shoulders.  Oregon has one of the best secondaries in the nation.  Granted, our run defense is quite porous, but if Longshore needs to make plays throughout the game, Cal is probably not going to be putting more than 24 points on the board.  

by jtlight on Sep 28, 2007 11:13 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I do expect a duck win...
..but still this is the second time today I have encountered a superlative when referring to the duck secondary.

While I do consider it good--it's not any better than that.  In it's recent history in some games it has been MIA.

Look-- if mighty Houston can drop 500yards on you, expecting Cal to be a walkover is delusional.

by baal on Sep 28, 2007 11:48 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank You
That's what I thought... since when did Oregon's secondary become such a vaunted corps?

by Eli on Sep 28, 2007 12:08 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Houston may have dumped yards on us
but our defense held them from scoring correspondingly.  It's not like it was a four quarter close game.    Del dicho al hecho, hay gran trecho.  It's the points that matter.  The defense got it done.

by ladygonegrey on Sep 28, 2007 11:42 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garbage?
I was looking forward to this weekend's game because it was a chance for some friendly banter between two rivals, but the way you're construing some of my remarks and the remarks of others makes me think you're just hypocritical. You warn Cal fans repeatedly to stop coming over and trolling, but whenever people post commentary completely absent of character attacks and incorrect information (myself and Kevin), you pass it off as garbage. Ignorant. Arrogant.

Maybe you should look in the mirror. There are many moments of ignorance in this post, and the most obvious one to me is how you astutely refer to Bears safety Thomas DeCoud as Mike DeCoud. "While our offensive line doesn't do great against the run, they have a great pass rush." That's another gem. If Cal's offensive line had a pass rush, I'd sure hate to be Nate Longshore.

I am not going to use this comment to disparage every single one of your points. I have said all along that this will be a close game between two very evenly matched teams and whichever team limits mistakes and dictates tempo will probably win. I just have a few qualms. You probably won't even want to read them since they're so ignorant and arrogant, but I'll mention them anyway to see if they resonate with any level-headed people:

-Is Oregon's secondary "really good," as you say? The Ducks are allowing over 11 yards per reception and over 245 yards per game through the air. I have seen Patrick Chung play and I know he is a solid veteran, but I don't believe the secondary has seen receivers as talented as Cal's this year. I know the Ducks DBs always have good experience when they go up against their WRs in practice, but just saying... it might be premature to call them "really good."

-Just because James Montgomery and Travis Best are young doesn't mean the Bears are "limited" at running back. If it weren't for USC, the Bears and Ducks would have the two most talented stables of running backs in the Pac-10. Forsett and Stewart are both all-league backs, and I'd take my chances with Best and Montgomery stacked up to Jeremiah Johnson and Andre Crenshaw. I think the backs are pretty much a wash (even if Marshawn Lynch were still with the Bears, I'd feel the same way. Tedford has simply had a knack for putting running backs in positions to succeed since he's been there).

-"That means Cal is going to have to pass, and when they do, I'd try and make Longshore's life a living hell." This sentence was taken in improper context--you're saying that just because Justin Forsett won't run the ball 45 times like Mike Hart, that Longshore is going to be forced to air it out. Huh? If the Bears are effetive running the ball, it's irrelevant how many times Forsett or any other back actually runs. Even the best ball control offenses don't always net 30 carries for the starting running back. And if the Bears run well, the Ducks likely won't be able to blitz as persistently when Longshore does decide to drop back and throw.

-I think every time I've seen you mention Cal's defense, you mention they lost three all-league defenders. Tell us something we don't know. This was extremely more relevant at the start of the year, when there was still a lot of uncertainty on the unit, but by now we all know who the players are and what the team can do. And despite the defense's shortcomings, the team is 4-0.

-While it's tempting to think Oregon's pace will tire out the Bears defense, just know Cal has already faced two opponents this season that employed a no-huddle (Tennessee and Louisiana Tech. Tennessee doesn't do this every game, but it did at Memorial) and faced another spread passing team (Arizona). Obviously Oregon's offense is more potent than any of those foes, but my point is that the Bears won't be caught off guard if the Ducks try to use a fast pace on offense.

-I think the Zack Follett injury hurts, but definitely not as much when the Bears are able to plug in a talented senior like Justin Moye, a one-time starter.

-As far as the discussion on homefield advantage, well, Autzen is obviously one of the better environments in college football, but until you've been to every other vaunted venue, you can't say it's the most dangerous on the West Coast. I'm saying it's not. I think the Coliseum is more hostile, and I definitely know Tennessee's Neyland Stadium is scarier than either. I am not saying it's tops in the nation, but it's the craziest I've experienced. Basically, don't take it so personally when people try to initiate discussion about home-field advantage. Records don't lie--you guys did get shelled against Arizona at home last year.

-On a personal note, your characterization of my Stewart/Dixon comment shows more ignorange on your part, I think. Tedford knows the Bears played at the top of their game against the Ducks last year, and I'd be stunned if Dixon and Stewart perform the way they did in 2006, because everyone knows they're better than that. Nobody is as aware of this as Jeff Tedford. What I meant by that statement is that he will likely devise a game plan to prevent them from big plays and letting Dixon control the game. Those are tough tasks, but Cal did a good job of it last year--it's been done before, so it's anything but ignorant to think the Bears won't be ready for it a second time around.

I am not going to make outlandish predictions like Dixon throwing for three picks or Forsett eclipsing 200 yards. The unbiased observer in me says it will be a close game, and the homer thinks Cal will win a close game. A blowout would be nice, but I'm a realistic homer.

If you'd like more garbage, feel free to check out my preview of the game later today.

http://www.thebandisoutonthefield.com

by Eli on Sep 28, 2007 11:58 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Please get over yourself for 2 seconds.
The whole world isn't out to get you.  Maybe if you'd posted commentary like that before we wouldn't have jumped down your throat.  

by jtlight on Sep 28, 2007 12:16 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lengthy, lengthy, lenghty
I'm not even going to read your 1,000+ words on how Cal is going to blow out Oregon because I'm both ignorant AND arrogant.  Does that make you happy?  

Crawl back under your bridge, you troll!

Dan Fouts is a douche!

by PacBellBoozer on Sep 28, 2007 1:26 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice I made it to this blog
Wow I'm surprised I my quote made it to this blog. In regards to holding your team under 150yards I believe we will contain Oregon's run game but not because we have held other teams to that number -- although I can see how I worded my post, one could see it being that way.

First, our LB core, while we do miss Desmond Bishop, has not seen a drop off even with Zach Follett injured. Anthony Felder, a frosh all-american, was injured all last year and is healthy this year. There were concerns if he would still be able to contribute this year at a high level after taking a year off and he has responded by being our BEST complete LB so far this year even more so then Zach. He has shown the playmaking skills of Zach Follett (sacks, forcing fumbles ect.) but is also leading our team in tackles. Worrell Williams was another question mark. Would he improve to fill the void DB left. While he hasn't played as well as DB (huge role to fill) he def isn't a large drop off to be a concern. He is our second leading tackler on the team and has shown ability to make big plays. Our third LB will be rotated with three LB's that have seen meaningful minutes all season. Even without Zach, it will not be a drop off from last year's core that did very well against your offense and are deep enough where they will tire no more then your own LB's.

The other stat that led me to believe that we will be able to contain your run game was the large amount of TFL your line has allowed. TFL (read my preview thread on bearinsider for more info and discussion) are important and Oregon running a spread does not excuse for them any more then any other formation. The bottom line is that your line/bad snaps/shotgun formation/playcalling is causing A LOT more TFL this year then last (2x). Oregon's 29 TFL ranks 108/119 and is a problem. While your offense has been explosive for big plays on the ground, they have also given up a lot of plays for no gain or less. I have reason to believe that our LB will be able capitalize and make plays to limit them thus holding your run offense to 150yards.

That being said, 150yards does not guarantee victory, and we do still have to stop Dixon who has been throwing very well. Most of Oregon's big plays have come from the air as indicated by the run:pass playcall ratio to run:pass yardage gain ratio.

Other weakness I see with Oregon is their LB play which has declined from last year.  They will struggle to stop our run. Without stopping our run it will keep your CB offbalance for the playaction pass. Your CB are good enough to where they will recover but Cal should be able to strike with some success.

Cal's CB do give up a lot of yards but they have done a great job preventing the big play that Oregon depends on. I wouldn't expect any of Cal's CB not to be able to "hang" with your receivers. But they will have some success. I think Stewart has been awfully quite as a receiver this year and could potentially hurt us. We tend to give up the small dump pass up the middle and with some room. Cal has to tackle well otherwise he might have enough room to break off a big play.

Other things that are in favor of Oregon. Home field advantage is huge. And if Dennis Dixon has turned the corner and can respond if the run game isn't giving him the luxury in the pass game that was afforded to him before, then things will look good for Oregon. Also Cal's D-line is a ??. W/o Rulon Davis we do have 3 DL who have had meaningful game experience but not the same physical presence as Davis. All have made big plays here and there but the concern is if a committee of them will be equivalent. Also there is potential of a DL tiring with only three backups instead of 4.

Cal's team is better then last year. We have added more playmakers to our team on both sides of the ball. For all the confidence that Oregon fans have shown, I would hope they would be able to say the same.

by dank1372 on Sep 28, 2007 12:03 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thank you guys
for adding some clarifications.

I always said that Cal was a 9-10 win team.  A really good team.  A scary team.  And I never said this game would be a blowout, I said that the Ducks would pull away late, because the injured defense would tire as the game went on.

by Addicted to Quack on Sep 28, 2007 12:07 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not all Cal fans are annoying
These ones do a great job of breaking down the game.  The roundtable is especially good.  Check it out.  They give a fair assessment of both sides of the ball.

http://goldenblogs.blogsome.com/

by jtlight on Sep 28, 2007 12:38 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Typo
While our offensive line doesn't do great against the run, they have a great pass rush.

by tominhawaii on Sep 28, 2007 2:36 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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