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OJ, Reggie, and Derrick Jones: How Do We Rid Ye of Thee?

With the recent stories out there regarding agents (OJ Mayo being the most recent, but also the Reggie Bush scandal of the last few years), as well as big stories regarding academics in college sports (the APR reports, and the loss of 8 scholarships by WSU, as well as our current situation with Derrick Jones that may cost us a scholarship), I wanted to take a few minutes to talk about these issues.

These issues may seem separate, but I think they are very interrelated, as they both poke holes in the idea that these kids are amateur student athletes.  The new age limit by the NBA, creating a ton of new 'one and done' kids, not only reeks of academic problems (as players at quarter schools likely won't complete their last term), but also opens up to agent abuse, with little punishment going toward the player.

Now, much can be made of the argument that college athletes should be paid.  Personally, I don't buy it.  They're getting a college education and living VERY well (I've worked in the Cas Center, I see all the perks these guys get).  You could make the argument that the football and basketball players bring in a ton of money, but the truth is that money is needed to subsidize every other sport on campus.  Especially seeing as you can't pay some athletes and not others, every athletic department in the country goes bankrupt if we pay players.

Now, that's neither here nor there.  The real questions are what can be done about these issues?

I've always thought that the academic issue should be a really easy one.  School. certainly have a lot to lose as far as loss of scholarships.  However, if a student athlete, with all the tutoring availiable to them, and people riding their asses to get things done, can't manage to pass their classes, that's on them, not the school.  By the time you get to college and you're an adult, its time to face some responsibility for your decisions.  Here is my solution:  when you sign your LOI, you also sign a promissary note.  If you don't graduate, you pay back all of your scholarship money.  This won't stop the OJ Mayos of the world.  But it may help stop a Derrick Jones or, even worse in my book, those guys who play all four years but then drop out a term or two before graduation.  Or the guys who are fringe draft pick from leaving early.  Its not enough of a punishment to wreck someone's life financially (hey, all of us normal people manage to pay back our student loans without going bankrupt), but does put the responsibility for academics even more on the student.  It should also be noted that I don't think that this should replace what the NCAA is currently doing with APR and scholarships.  I think that they should compliment each other.

Now, onto agent, or even booster money.  At least boosters are punished.  But athletes and agents get off scott free for this activity, while the schools incur all of the damages.  Now, I'm not feeling bad for those schools (USC), because they know damn well what's going on.  But it is a shame that OJ Mayo doesn't get punished, but his teammates that he's left behind do.  The fact of the matter is that the NBA is dependent on college basketball, even moreso with the age limit.  Although the Seattle situation proves that David Stern is just a little on the crazy side these days, I see no reason why he shouldn't support a proposal that says any player found to have taken money from an agent while an amateur is fined half a year's salary.  Think OJ will still take a flat screen TV if its going to cost him $2 mill?  Yeah, I don' t think so either.  And if Stern really pushed it, you think the player's union is going to fight it?  How is that going to look?  Besided, I'm not sure that players who are alumni of the other Pac-10 schools are going to be too sympathetic to OJ.  Even other SC alums are going to be upset that he got their school in trouble.  This solution would make the barriers too high for athletes to cross.

Finally, the NBA should simply prohibit teams from negotiating with agents who partake in such activities.  If they are going to cheat, take away their livelihood.

These steps wouldn't end cheating (someone is always going to try and break the rules), but I believe that they would significantly curttail it.

The ball's in your court, NCAA.  You can continue to do what you've done in the past (nothing), or you can grow a pair and actually do something.  The promissary note and pressuring the NBA would be a start.

GO DUCKS!!!

--Dave

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Good thoughts on this subject Dave
I'm not sure I agree with all of it.  I still need to mull this issue over a bit, but it'd definitely be a step in the right direction.

The biggest problem I see is the NCAA, which is absolutely worthless.  They haven't done anything to benefit the student athletes in a long time, so I don't see them starting now.

by jtlight on May 16, 2008 6:22 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What I do agree with
Is that it's the punk's problem, not the school's, and the school shouldn't have to pay for it. Especially something as critical as a scholarship. We've seen it, the school's tried... Derrick Jones was just a screw up. Yes, we all had a tough time letting go, as he was 1/2 our deep ball threat, but we started realizing that he wasn't gonna come out of the dark, then about a month ago we get hit with this threat.

The sad thing is, we could say good riddance, but if this does end up getting a scholarship revoked, our program for years to come will have "D-JONES WUZ HERE" written on our forehead.

Let's all admit we were super excited for this guy, and we were really really pulling for him in school so could play. He just wasn't a team player. It's the classic clubhouse cancer, just this was a bit more of a forced termination. Which I'm totally content with at this stage in all this drama.

by qrsouther on May 16, 2008 7:58 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmmmmmm
There's a lot to agree with and a lot not to.

One thing I would like to see. When a player takes money in college and then skips to the pros, I'd like to see an equal punishment with reapect to an NBA or NFL suspension for a season or two. Clearly, it would make the player think twice.

by BLAZER PROPHET on May 17, 2008 12:15 AM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not to burst your bubble Dave...
But if anyone was watching the NBA lottery coverage today, I caught some while on the treadmill.  

They interviewed David Stern, and asked him about the OJ Mayo situation, and what the NBA would do to help compliance.  And he flat out said as follows...summarized of course:

"Well, I want to be clear, the rules that you speak of are not NBA rules, those are NCAA rules.  What you speak of has been going on for the last 30 to 40 years."

The tone and words made he seem that he could care less what is going on at the college level, and made it clear that he is using the college system as a one year scouting program, and for free exposure.  I can't really blame him, it's genius.

by jtlight on May 20, 2008 7:01 PM PDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

exactly
the NBA needs the NCAA a lot more than the NCAA needs the NBA.  The NCAA could make it really difficult on these one and done guys if the NBA isn't willing to meet them halfway.

by Addicted to Quack on May 20, 2008 9:53 PM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm
I actually think niether "needs" the other.  I think that the NCAA has been bettered by better basketball the last few years, and the NBA has benefit through the free development/exposure of its players.

If the NBA does nothing, they will still be fine, as they were before the one year rule (which has been what most have been arguing against, not sure if you are specifically).

And as far as the NCAA making it difficult, what can they actually do?  Can they do anything, or is it just against the offending school, not player.  I mean, players could flaunt the rules, and would make enemies out of other players and alums, but I don't really think the NCAA can make it that hard on the NBA.

by jtlight on May 21, 2008 5:37 AM PDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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